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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 14:54 UTC

In article <urcerv$14m5p$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 24/2/24 1:59 am:
>> In article <ur9nro$eu1c$2@dont-email.me>,
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 22/2/24 11:17 pm:
>>>> In article <ur75lq$2dk32$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Mich <mich@none.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> WOTAN story sticks in my mind. Although the props were so cringe
>>>>> and clunky, WOTAN was connecting to other computers 2 years before
>>>>> ARPANET. So in a way ahead of its time.
>>>>
>>>> And now the Tower is about to be converted into a hotel.
>>>>
>>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....) WHAT Tower, "Yellow
>>> Beard Yadallee"??
>>
>> The one you saw in the War machines.
>
>Ah!! Then that was the one that had the cats climbing all over it then!! ;-P

Ha! Ha!!

>--
>Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 14:55 UTC

In article <urcvbk$185eh$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Daniel declared:
>
>> The Doctor wrote on 24/2/24 1:59 am:
>>> In article <ur9nro$eu1c$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....)
>>>> WHAT Tower, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>>
>>> The one you saw in the War machines.
>>
>> Ah!! Then that was the one that had the cats climbing
>> all over it then!! ;-P
>
>Cats? Or just one very big cat?
>

Good queston feather bearded one!

>--
>solar penguin

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Yellow Beard Yadallee yipped:

> In article <urcear$14j9l$2@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you. I thought that might have been the one ..... but, I mean,
>> "Yellow Beard Yadallee" is sooooo good with details!!
>
> And then there is your memory Yellow-Beard.
>

Talking to yourself?

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Binky bleated:

> In article <urcvbk$185eh$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Daniel declared:
>>
>>> The Doctor wrote on 24/2/24 1:59 am:
>>>> In article <ur9nro$eu1c$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....)
>>>>> WHAT Tower, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>>>
>>>> The one you saw in the War machines.
>>>
>>> Ah!! Then that was the one that had the cats climbing
>>> all over it then!! ;-P
>>
>> Cats? Or just one very big cat?
>>
>
> Good queston feather bearded one!
>

No, a Goodies question.

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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:11 UTC

In article <urd030$18a21$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Yellow Beard Yadallee yipped:
>
>> In article <urcear$14j9l$2@dont-email.me>,
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you. I thought that might have been the one ..... but, I mean,
>>> "Yellow Beard Yadallee" is sooooo good with details!!
>>
>> And then there is your memory Yellow-Beard.
>>
>
>Talking to yourself?
>
>--
>solar penguin

Who changed REd to Yellow?
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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:12 UTC

In article <urd05c$18abs$1@dont-email.me>,
solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Binky bleated:
>
>> In article <urcvbk$185eh$1@dont-email.me>,
>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Daniel declared:
>>>
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 24/2/24 1:59 am:
>>>>> In article <ur9nro$eu1c$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....)
>>>>>> WHAT Tower, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>>>>
>>>>> The one you saw in the War machines.
>>>>
>>>> Ah!! Then that was the one that had the cats climbing
>>>> all over it then!! ;-P
>>>
>>> Cats? Or just one very big cat?
>>>
>>
>> Good queston feather bearded one!
>>
>
>No, a Goodies question.
>

Even better feather-bearded paedobird!

>--
>solar penguin

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 by: Blueshirt - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 16:17 UTC

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <urcear$14j9l$2@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > Blueshirt wrote on 24/2/24 2:27 am:
> >> Daniel65 wrote:
> >>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....) WHAT Tower,
> >>> "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
> >>
> >> The Post Office tower in London... that was in The War
> >> Machines...
> >
> > Thank you. I thought that might have been the one ..... but, I
> > mean, "Yellow Beard Yadallee" is sooooo good with details!!
>
> And then there is your memory Yellow-Beard.

Ouch! That's a low blow Dave...

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 by: Truthslave - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:26 UTC

On 20/02/2024 14:38, The Doctor wrote:
> The theme of artificial intelligence (AI) is a recurring and richly explored
> concept throughout the long history of Doctor Who. Across its many iterations,
> the series has delved into the complexities, implications, and moral dilemmas
> surrounding the creation and interaction with artificial beings. From
> malevolent robots to sentient computers, Doctor Who has examined the ethical,
> philosophical, and existential questions raised by AI, often using these
> stories as allegories to reflect upon contemporary society's relationship with
> technology, power, and humanity.
>
> Early Explorations: Classic Who
>
> In the early years of Doctor Who, AI was often portrayed through the lens of
> robots and computerised systems. Classic serials such as "The War Machines"
> (1966), featuring the malevolent supercomputer WOTAN, and "The Wheel in Space"
> (1968), with the emotionless Cybermen, introduced viewers to the dangers of
> unchecked technological advancement and the potential consequences of creating
> intelligent machines.
>
> However, it was in the serial "The Mind Robber" (1968) that Doctor Who first
> explored the concept of artificial intelligence in a more abstract and
> metaphysical manner. In this story, the Doctor and his companions encounter the
> Master of the Land of Fiction, a sentient entity capable of manipulating
> reality itself. Through this narrative, the series questioned the nature of
> reality, consciousness, and the power of storytelling, laying the groundwork
> for more nuanced explorations of AI in later years.
>
> Nuanced Portrayals: Modern Who
>
> In the revived series, Doctor Who has continued to explore the theme of AI with
> greater depth and complexity. Episodes such as "The Girl in the Fireplace"
> (2006) and "The Waters of Mars" (2009) introduced audiences to sympathetic AI
> characters, including Madame de Pompadour's android companion, Reinette, and
> the intelligent computer Gadget in the Mars base. These episodes challenged
> viewers' perceptions of AI, blurring the lines between man and machine and
> exploring themes of identity, consciousness, and empathy.
>
> However, it was the character of the Tenth Doctor's companion, Donna Noble,
> that provided one of the most poignant explorations of AI in Doctor Who. In the
> episode "Turn Left" (2008), Donna encounters a world where she never met the
> Doctor, leading to catastrophic consequences for humanity. It is revealed that
> the Doctor's absence allowed the malevolent creatures known as the Trickster's
> Brigade to manipulate events, ultimately leading to the creation of a dystopian
> society ruled by an oppressive government and a race of "labour camps".
>
> This episode serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of authoritarianism
> and the importance of individual agency, highlighting the potential
> consequences of unchecked power and the need for vigilance
> in the face of tyranny.
>
> Contemporary Relevance: New Who
>
> In recent years, Doctor Who has continued to explore the theme of AI in ways
> that reflect contemporary concerns and anxieties surrounding technology and
> artificial intelligence. Episodes such as "The Bells of Saint John" (2013)
> and "The Zygon Inversion" (2015) have tackled issues such as surveillance,
> privacy, and the ethical implications of AI-driven algorithms and algorithms.
>
> In "The Bells of Saint John," the Doctor confronts the Great Intelligence, a
> malevolent entity that seeks to control humanity through the use of a sinister
> Wi-Fi network. This episode serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of
> technological dependency and the erosion of privacy in the digital age,
> highlighting the need for vigilance
> and critical thinking in the face of modern threats.
>
> Similarly, "The Zygon Inversion" explores themes of identity, empathy, and
> conflict resolution through the lens of AI-driven shape-shifting creatures
> known as Zygons. In this episode, the Doctor faces a moral dilemma when
> confronted with the possibility of using a doomsday weapon to destroy the
> Zygons and end their conflict with humanity. Through his impassioned speech
> about the importance of empathy and understanding, the Doctor implores both
> sides to find a peaceful solution to their differences, highlighting the power
> of compassion and communication in resolving conflict.
>
> Conclusion: Doctor Who's Legacy in Exploring AI
>
> Throughout its long history, Doctor Who has consistently pushed the boundaries
> of science fiction storytelling, using its exploration of artificial
> intelligence as a lens through which to examine complex philosophical,
> ethical, and existential questions. From malevolent robots to sympathetic
> androids, the series has portrayed AI in all its myriad forms, challenging
> viewers to reconsider their assumptions and beliefs about the nature of
> consciousness, identity, and morality.
>
> As technology continues to advance at an unprecedented pace, the themes
> explored in Doctor Who remain as relevant as ever, reminding us of the
> importance of ethical considerations, responsible innovation,
> and the preservation of our humanity in the face of technological progress.
> By engaging with these themes with intelligence, nuance, and empathy,
> Doctor Who continues to inspire audiences to think critically about the world
> around them and the role that technology plays
> in shaping our collective future.
>
> ME (doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca):
>
> I am a bit disappoint. The 1960s examples of War Miachines is spot on!
>
> The Cybermen as AI? I question that?
>
> What about Face of Evil and Robots of Death. Better examples of AI>
>
> The NuWho stuff, Smile is a better example!
>
> Dare I say such is AI?
>

I heard there's an AI themed movie in the offing based on
Philip K Dick's Vulcan's T Hammer, with Francis Lawrence
to direct. This was from back in 2021, so you'd imagine it
was due out soon.

It would be neat if DW got there first, or at the same time
for a kind of tie-in.

Any thoughts on what such a story would have to say, which
hadn't been said before, or at least was relevant to the
future we are current embarked up?

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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:43 UTC

In article <xn0oigld096431v000@news.eternal-september.org>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <urcear$14j9l$2@dont-email.me>,
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> > Blueshirt wrote on 24/2/24 2:27 am:
>> >> Daniel65 wrote:
>> >>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....) WHAT Tower,
>> >>> "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>> >>
>> >> The Post Office tower in London... that was in The War
>> >> Machines...
>> >
>> > Thank you. I thought that might have been the one ..... but, I
>> > mean, "Yellow Beard Yadallee" is sooooo good with details!!
>>
>> And then there is your memory Yellow-Beard.
>
>Ouch! That's a low blow Dave...

Red is not yellow!
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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:45 UTC

In article <2atCN.1064535$Cm1.305840@fx01.ams4>,
Truthslave <TS@home.com> wrote:
>On 20/02/2024 14:38, The Doctor wrote:
>> The theme of artificial intelligence (AI) is a recurring and richly explored
>> concept throughout the long history of Doctor Who. Across its many iterations,
>> the series has delved into the complexities, implications, and moral dilemmas
>> surrounding the creation and interaction with artificial beings. From
>> malevolent robots to sentient computers, Doctor Who has examined the ethical,
>> philosophical, and existential questions raised by AI, often using these
>> stories as allegories to reflect upon contemporary society's relationship with
>> technology, power, and humanity.
>>
>> Early Explorations: Classic Who
>>
>> In the early years of Doctor Who, AI was often portrayed through the lens of
>> robots and computerised systems. Classic serials such as "The War Machines"
>> (1966), featuring the malevolent supercomputer WOTAN, and "The Wheel in Space"
>> (1968), with the emotionless Cybermen, introduced viewers to the dangers of
>> unchecked technological advancement and the potential consequences of creating
>> intelligent machines.
>>
>> However, it was in the serial "The Mind Robber" (1968) that Doctor Who first
>> explored the concept of artificial intelligence in a more abstract and
>> metaphysical manner. In this story, the Doctor and his companions
>encounter the
>> Master of the Land of Fiction, a sentient entity capable of manipulating
>> reality itself. Through this narrative, the series questioned the nature of
>> reality, consciousness, and the power of storytelling, laying the groundwork
>> for more nuanced explorations of AI in later years.
>>
>> Nuanced Portrayals: Modern Who
>>
>> In the revived series, Doctor Who has continued to explore the theme
>of AI with
>> greater depth and complexity. Episodes such as "The Girl in the Fireplace"
>> (2006) and "The Waters of Mars" (2009) introduced audiences to sympathetic AI
>> characters, including Madame de Pompadour's android companion, Reinette, and
>> the intelligent computer Gadget in the Mars base. These episodes challenged
>> viewers' perceptions of AI, blurring the lines between man and machine and
>> exploring themes of identity, consciousness, and empathy.
>>
>> However, it was the character of the Tenth Doctor's companion, Donna Noble,
>> that provided one of the most poignant explorations of AI in Doctor
>Who. In the
>> episode "Turn Left" (2008), Donna encounters a world where she never met the
>> Doctor, leading to catastrophic consequences for humanity. It is revealed that
>> the Doctor's absence allowed the malevolent creatures known as the Trickster's
>> Brigade to manipulate events, ultimately leading to the creation of a
>dystopian
>> society ruled by an oppressive government and a race of "labour camps".
>>
>> This episode serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of authoritarianism
>> and the importance of individual agency, highlighting the potential
>> consequences of unchecked power and the need for vigilance
>> in the face of tyranny.
>>
>> Contemporary Relevance: New Who
>>
>> In recent years, Doctor Who has continued to explore the theme of AI in ways
>> that reflect contemporary concerns and anxieties surrounding technology and
>> artificial intelligence. Episodes such as "The Bells of Saint John" (2013)
>> and "The Zygon Inversion" (2015) have tackled issues such as surveillance,
>> privacy, and the ethical implications of AI-driven algorithms and algorithms.
>>
>> In "The Bells of Saint John," the Doctor confronts the Great Intelligence, a
>> malevolent entity that seeks to control humanity through the use of a sinister
>> Wi-Fi network. This episode serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of
>> technological dependency and the erosion of privacy in the digital age,
>> highlighting the need for vigilance
>> and critical thinking in the face of modern threats.
>>
>> Similarly, "The Zygon Inversion" explores themes of identity, empathy, and
>> conflict resolution through the lens of AI-driven shape-shifting creatures
>> known as Zygons. In this episode, the Doctor faces a moral dilemma when
>> confronted with the possibility of using a doomsday weapon to destroy the
>> Zygons and end their conflict with humanity. Through his impassioned speech
>> about the importance of empathy and understanding, the Doctor implores both
>> sides to find a peaceful solution to their differences, highlighting the power
>> of compassion and communication in resolving conflict.
>>
>> Conclusion: Doctor Who's Legacy in Exploring AI
>>
>> Throughout its long history, Doctor Who has consistently pushed the boundaries
>> of science fiction storytelling, using its exploration of artificial
>> intelligence as a lens through which to examine complex philosophical,
>> ethical, and existential questions. From malevolent robots to sympathetic
>> androids, the series has portrayed AI in all its myriad forms, challenging
>> viewers to reconsider their assumptions and beliefs about the nature of
>> consciousness, identity, and morality.
>>
>> As technology continues to advance at an unprecedented pace, the themes
>> explored in Doctor Who remain as relevant as ever, reminding us of the
>> importance of ethical considerations, responsible innovation,
>> and the preservation of our humanity in the face of technological progress.
>> By engaging with these themes with intelligence, nuance, and empathy,
>> Doctor Who continues to inspire audiences to think critically about the world
>> around them and the role that technology plays
>> in shaping our collective future.
>>
>> ME (doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca):
>>
>> I am a bit disappoint. The 1960s examples of War Miachines is spot on!
>>
>> The Cybermen as AI? I question that?
>>
>> What about Face of Evil and Robots of Death. Better examples of AI>
>>
>> The NuWho stuff, Smile is a better example!
>>
>> Dare I say such is AI?
>>
>
>
>I heard there's an AI themed movie in the offing based on
>Philip K Dick's Vulcan's T Hammer, with Francis Lawrence
>to direct. This was from back in 2021, so you'd imagine it
>was due out soon.
>
>It would be neat if DW got there first, or at the same time
>for a kind of tie-in.
>
>Any thoughts on what such a story would have to say, which
>hadn't been said before, or at least was relevant to the
>future we are current embarked up?

Might be better than anything Chibnall can offer.
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The Doctor wrote:
> In article <xn0oigld096431v000@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote:
>>
>>> In article <urcear$14j9l$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> Blueshirt wrote on 24/2/24 2:27 am:
>>>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....) WHAT Tower,
>>>>>> "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>>>>
>>>>> The Post Office tower in London... that was in The War
>>>>> Machines...
>>>>
>>>> Thank you. I thought that might have been the one ..... but, I
>>>> mean, "Yellow Beard Yadallee" is sooooo good with details!!
>>>
>>> And then there is your memory Yellow-Beard.
>>
>> Ouch! That's a low blow Dave...
>
> Red is not yellow!
>
mixed them you get green

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 08:49 UTC

solar penguin wrote on 25/2/24 1:44 am:
> Daniel declared:
>> The Doctor wrote on 24/2/24 1:59 am:
>>> In article <ur9nro$eu1c$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....)
>>>> WHAT Tower, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>>
>>> The one you saw in the War machines.
>>
>> Ah!! Then that was the one that had the cats climbing
>> all over it then!! ;-P
>
> Cats? Or just one very big cat?
>
Oh!! Hang on!! Yes, now that you mention it, one cat, ONE VERY BIG CAT!!
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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 08:50 UTC

solar penguin wrote on 25/2/24 1:57 am:
> Binky bleated:
>> In article <urcvbk$185eh$1@dont-email.me>,
>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Daniel declared:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 24/2/24 1:59 am:
>>>>> In article <ur9nro$eu1c$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....)
>>>>>> WHAT Tower, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>>>>
>>>>> The one you saw in the War machines.
>>>>
>>>> Ah!! Then that was the one that had the cats climbing
>>>> all over it then!! ;-P
>>>
>>> Cats? Or just one very big cat?
>>
>> Good queston feather bearded one!
>
> No, a Goodies question.
>
Goodie! Goodie! Yum! Yum!!
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The Doctor wrote on 25/2/24 1:54 am:
> In article <urcear$14j9l$2@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Blueshirt wrote on 24/2/24 2:27 am:
>>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 22/2/24 11:17 pm:
>>>>>
>>>>> And now the Tower is about to be converted into a hotel.
>>>>>
>>>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....) WHAT Tower,
>>>> "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>>
>>> The Post Office tower in London... that was in The War Machines...
>>>
>> Thank you. I thought that might have been the one ..... but, I mean,
>> "Yellow Beard Yadallee" is sooooo good with details!!
>
> And then there is your memory Yellow-Beard.

Why?? What about my memory, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 08:56 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 25/2/24 9:45 am:
> In article <2atCN.1064535$Cm1.305840@fx01.ams4>,
> Truthslave <TS@home.com> wrote:

<Snip>

>> Any thoughts on what such a story would have to say, which
>> hadn't been said before, or at least was relevant to the
>> future we are current embarked up?
>
> Might be better than anything Chibnall can offer.
>
Still living in the past, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"!!
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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 13:47 UTC

In article <ureutq$1ohqs$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>solar penguin wrote on 25/2/24 1:44 am:
>> Daniel declared:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 24/2/24 1:59 am:
>>>> In article <ur9nro$eu1c$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....)
>>>>> WHAT Tower, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>>>
>>>> The one you saw in the War machines.
>>>
>>> Ah!! Then that was the one that had the cats climbing
>>> all over it then!! ;-P
>>
>> Cats? Or just one very big cat?
>>
>Oh!! Hang on!! Yes, now that you mention it, one cat, ONE VERY BIG CAT!!

REady to get bounced upon?

>--
>Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 13:47 UTC

In article <urev0v$1ohqs$2@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>solar penguin wrote on 25/2/24 1:57 am:
>> Binky bleated:
>>> In article <urcvbk$185eh$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Daniel declared:
>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 24/2/24 1:59 am:
>>>>>> In article <ur9nro$eu1c$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Not that I'm particularly interested, but ....)
>>>>>>> WHAT Tower, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The one you saw in the War machines.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah!! Then that was the one that had the cats climbing
>>>>> all over it then!! ;-P
>>>>
>>>> Cats? Or just one very big cat?
>>>
>>> Good queston feather bearded one!
>>
>> No, a Goodies question.
>>
>Goodie! Goodie! Yum! Yum!!

Care to serve them up?
>--
>Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 13:47 UTC

In article <urevcb$1oo8a$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 25/2/24 9:45 am:
>> In article <2atCN.1064535$Cm1.305840@fx01.ams4>,
>> Truthslave <TS@home.com> wrote:
>
><Snip>
>
>>> Any thoughts on what such a story would have to say, which
>>> hadn't been said before, or at least was relevant to the
>>> future we are current embarked up?
>>
>> Might be better than anything Chibnall can offer.
>>
>Still living in the past, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"!!

Everytense means anything to you Red-Beard?
>--
>Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 09:11 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 26/2/24 12:47 am:
> In article <urevcb$1oo8a$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 25/2/24 9:45 am:
>>> In article <2atCN.1064535$Cm1.305840@fx01.ams4>,
>>> Truthslave <TS@home.com> wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>> Any thoughts on what such a story would have to say, which
>>>> hadn't been said before, or at least was relevant to the
>>>> future we are current embarked up?
>>>
>>> Might be better than anything Chibnall can offer.
>>>
>> Still living in the past, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"!!
>
> Everytense means anything to you Red-Beard?

No, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", 'Everytense' means *NOTHING* what so ever
to me, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"!!
--
Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 15:23 UTC

In article <urhkja$2f0m5$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote on 26/2/24 12:47 am:
>> In article <urevcb$1oo8a$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 25/2/24 9:45 am:
>>>> In article <2atCN.1064535$Cm1.305840@fx01.ams4>,
>>>> Truthslave <TS@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts on what such a story would have to say, which
>>>>> hadn't been said before, or at least was relevant to the
>>>>> future we are current embarked up?
>>>>
>>>> Might be better than anything Chibnall can offer.
>>>>
>>> Still living in the past, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"!!
>>
>> Everytense means anything to you Red-Beard?
>
>No, "Yellow Beard Yadallee", 'Everytense' means *NOTHING* what so ever
>to me, "Yellow Beard Yadallee"!!

Let's try evertense REd-Beard!

>--
>Daniel

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