On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 11:24:54 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/feb/20/how-is-this-classical-music-composers-fury-at-grammys-shortlist

I have never heard of these guys. If anything, I'm surprised that classical music people actually care about the Grammys. At least I've never purchased anything based on whether it won a Grammy or not. I can't even recall any of the past winners or nominees (save for Bernstein's Shostakovich 1 and 7, which I recall saving up my allowance for back in 8th grade). Maybe my childhood warped by The Simpsons poisoned my outlook of the Grammys?

https://youtu.be/Tf9V0hwJ6qk

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 10:15:48 PM UTC-5, number_six wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 5:34:51 PM UTC-8, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 7:14:55 PM UTC-5, number_six wrote:
> > >
> > > Perhaps they (Albeniz /Wagner)
> > > are closer than they sound.
> > >
> > Care to elaborate? I hope
> > you can use arguments
> > clearer than "scotch is
> > really like wine".
>
> Sure, I'll try again. First, please look at
> the text (re language) that you trimmed
> from my last post.

I trimmed portions that were
no necessary for my reply.

> Earlier, you asked me to consider another
> POV. Now I must ask you to do the same.

I didn't ask you, nor anyone
else, to consider another POV.
I only mentioned that other
POVs are possible.

> We were both looking at the taxonomy
> of music, but on different time scales.

Tnis might be the impression
you got. However I wasn't
looking at the taxonomy of
music (or any other domain).
All I notice and I care about is
how music sounds to my ears.
I have absolutely no interest in
intellectualizing and rationalizing
sensory experiences. I overcame
my Freud/Jung/Szasz addictions
decades ago.

> Yes, Iberia interrelates more closely
> with North Africa (pun intended) than
> does Germany;

Everybody knows Monty kicked
them out.

> Germany interrelates more closely
> with Anatolia than does Spain.

Germany does not interrelate with
anything else. It is completely self-
referrential, homoiconic and meta-
circular.

> Albeniz' aesthetic is more directly
> linked than Wagner's to the
> implications of Tours and Toledo;

I couldn't care less about aesthetics.
Or about music's implications. I am
not a philosopher. I am only a plain
consumer of plain music (no brass
please!).

> Wagner's aesthetic is more directly
> linked than Albeniz' to the implications
> of Vikings and Vienna.

See above.

> But they both partake in the sweeping
> panorama of a pan-Eurasian cultural
> core that ran goods and knowledge
> from Morocco to Manchuria.

You should write record reviews, if you
haven't done so already. The world has
a dire need of having music explained
through architecture -- as my friend
Clara used to point out.

> It's as if they got their mail at different
> PO boxes run by different systems --
> but those systems were linked, albeit
> imperfectly, but were NOT fully isolated
> from each other.

Sounds like a great new application
for blockchain.

> As I type this, I'm listening to a CD by
> collage masters Esplendor Geometrico --
> a fitting amalgam of influences from
> Spain, France, Islam, Northern and
> Central Europe, the Balkans, etc.

Call an ambulance immediately!

dk

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 2:32:02 AM UTC-5, Néstor Castiglione wrote:
>
> I have never heard of these guys. If anything,
> I'm surprised that classical music people actually
> care about the Grammys. At least I've never
> purchased anything based on whether it won a
> Grammy or not. I can't even recall any of the past
> winners or nominees (save for Bernstein's Shostakovich
> 1 and 7, which I recall saving up my allowance for back
> in 8th grade). Maybe my childhood warped by The
> Simpsons poisoned my outlook of the Grammys?
>

Le Grand Prix du Disque Charle Cros
and Deutscher Schalplattenpreis are
far more reliable.

dk

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 2:32:02 AM UTC-5, Néstor Castiglione wrote:
>
> I have never heard of these guys. If anything,
> I'm surprised that classical music people actually
> care about the Grammys. At least I've never
> purchased anything based on whether it won a
> Grammy or not. I can't even recall any of the past
> winners or nominees (save for Bernstein's Shostakovich
> 1 and 7, which I recall saving up my allowance for back
> in 8th grade). Maybe my childhood warped by The
> Simpsons poisoned my outlook of the Grammys?
>

Le Grand Prix du Disque Charles Cros
and Deutscher Schalplattenpreis are
far more reliable.

dk