In article <c11ced52-13ad-40e9-b0b4-4cc640f7d946n@googlegroups.com>,
Dan Koren <dan.koren@gmail.com> wrote:
>Yet another perfect example of suppression of minority opinions.

What a ridiculous response.

You've said nothing here you haven't said before. Everyone knows
your opinion. The idea that it's "suppressed...." Wow.

Your attitude reminds me of the way so-called "conservatives" have
to pick on LGBT people all the time... they can't just leave it
alone, and neither can you. I guess you feel threatened too. What
a jackass.

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 3:14:15 PM UTC-5, Todd M. McComb wrote:
> In article <c11ced52-13ad-40e9...@googlegroups.com>,
> Dan Koren <dan....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Yet another perfect example of
> > suppression of minority opinions.
> What a ridiculous response.

Facts don't matter, right?

> You've said nothing here you
> haven't said before.

Neither have others.

> Everyone knows your opinion.

Everyone in this ng knows
everyone else's opinions.

> The idea that it's "suppressed...."
> Wow.

We haven't seen you protesting
other people's opinions, no
matter how often repeated.

> Your attitude reminds me of the
> way so-called "conservatives" have
> to pick on LGBT people all the time...
> they can't just leave it alone, and
> neither can you.

I see it as a public service to fight
old pianos and related instruments
of torture ;-)

> I guess you feel threatened too.

No, I don't.

> What a jackass.

Make that two.

dk

In article <c1dbffb5-8e79-4067-8b39-0f08998d1d5en@googlegroups.com>,
Dan Koren <dan.koren@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 3:14:15 PM UTC-5, Todd M. McComb wrote:
>>You've said nothing here you haven't said before.
>Neither have others.

Ha.

>We haven't seen you protesting other people's opinions, no matter
>how often repeated.

Try paying attention.

>I see it as a public service to fight old pianos and related
>instruments of torture ;-)

Yes, you are "fighting" against interests you do not share. You
aren't willing to live & let live.

>>I guess you feel threatened too.
>No, I don't.

Ha.

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 3:36:29 PM UTC-5, Todd M. McComb wrote:
>
> Yes, you are "fighting" against
> interests you do not share. You
> aren't willing to live & let live.

?!? I have always supported all
instruments that do not pollute
(which excludes brass) and all
instruments that don't harm the
listeners' brains and hearing by
being out of tune. Thers is
nothing in it about "interests".

dk

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 3:36:29 PM UTC-5, Todd M. McComb wrote:
>
> Yes, you are "fighting" against
> interests you do not share. You
> aren't willing to live & let live.

?!? I have always supported all
instruments that do not pollute
(which excludes brass) and all
instruments that don't harm the
listeners' brains and hearing by
being out of tune. There is
nothing in it about "interests".

dk

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022, Todd M. McComb wrote:

> In article <be1dd4ab-abd4-4555-b3f8-a668db33932fn@googlegroups.com>,
> Lawrence Kart <ljkart@aol.com> wrote:
>> I've heard plenty of forte pianos from that era that don't sound
>> as rattle-trap as this one -- I'm reminded of a vintage Volkswagen
>> that's badly in need of an oil change, though much of this may be
>> due to Koch's leaden foot on the gear shift.
>
> He really ends up with a singing tone out of it. It's part of what
> makes the music feel as though it's "spontaneously created" -- per
> Mandryka's remarks -- i.e. that the singing quality seems to arise
> via effort. I like the sound of it more & more, but didn't
> immediately. The feeling of using the full resources of the
> instrument also adds to the sense of drama cultivated particularly
> in the opening movements, with their sort of "character development"
> amid strong timbral contrasts.

This is such a large dichotomy that I think I'd like to hear some of
it. Are there any suggested links other than spotify (which I don't
use)? Preferably (for a start) something other than the first
movement of D960.

Todd: please ditch the multiple "Re"s in your subject lines! Thanks.
--
Al Eisner

In article <alpine.LRH.2.00.2202281603000.6672@iris02.slac.stanford.edu>,
Al Eisner <eisner@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Todd: please ditch the multiple "Re"s in your subject lines!

I only see one "Re:" so I don't think there's anything that I can
do.... My 1980s technology does get confused by some of the newer
character sets, though, as per in the Subject line here, the pointless
"special" possessive....

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:07:13 PM UTC-5, Al Eisner wrote:
>
> This is such a large dichotomy that I think I'd like to hear some of
> it. Are there any suggested links other than spotify (which I don't
> use)? Preferably (for a start) something other than the first
> movement of D960.

Pronto:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tobias+koch+topic+schubert

dk

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 6:21:04 PM UTC-6, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:07:13 PM UTC-5, Al Eisner wrote:
> >
> > This is such a large dichotomy that I think I'd like to hear some of
> > it. Are there any suggested links other than spotify (which I don't
> > use)? Preferably (for a start) something other than the first
> > movement of D960.
> Pronto:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tobias+koch+topic+schubert
>
> dk

You want to hear the forte piano played in a musical manner? Here's Kathryn Cok accompanying hornist Anekee Scott in Nikolaus Von KBrufft's Sonata in E Major:

https://youtu.be/d0rNFyXw120

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 6:48:38 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Kart wrote:
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 6:21:04 PM UTC-6, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:07:13 PM UTC-5, Al Eisner wrote:
> > >
> > > This is such a large dichotomy that I think I'd like to hear some of
> > > it. Are there any suggested links other than spotify (which I don't
> > > use)? Preferably (for a start) something other than the first
> > > movement of D960.
> > Pronto:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tobias+koch+topic+schubert
> >
> > dk
> You want to hear the forte piano played in a musical manner? Here's Kathryn Cok accompanying hornist Anekee Scott in Nikolaus Von KBrufft's Sonata in E Major:
>
> https://youtu.be/d0rNFyXw120

Oops -- make that Von Krufft.

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 6:50:13 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Kart wrote:
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 6:48:38 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Kart wrote:
> > On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 6:21:04 PM UTC-6, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:07:13 PM UTC-5, Al Eisner wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is such a large dichotomy that I think I'd like to hear some of
> > > > it. Are there any suggested links other than spotify (which I don't
> > > > use)? Preferably (for a start) something other than the first
> > > > movement of D960.
> > > Pronto:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tobias+koch+topic+schubert
> > >
> > > dk
> > You want to hear the forte piano played in a musical manner? Here's Kathryn Cok accompanying hornist Anekee Scott in Nikolaus Von KBrufft's Sonata in E Major:
> >
> > https://youtu.be/d0rNFyXw120
> Oops -- make that Von Krufft.

And in Beethoven:

https://youtu.be/fZurQTpT4qA

On Mon, 28 Feb 2022, Lawrence Kart wrote:

> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 6:21:04 PM UTC-6, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:07:13 PM UTC-5, Al Eisner wrote:
>>>
>>> This is such a large dichotomy that I think I'd like to hear some of
>>> it. Are there any suggested links other than spotify (which I don't
>>> use)? Preferably (for a start) something other than the first
>>> movement of D960.
>> Pronto:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tobias+koch+topic+schubert
>>
>> dk
>
> You want to hear the forte piano played in a musical manner? Here's Kathryn Cok accompanying hornist Anekee Scott in Nikolaus Von KBrufft's Sonata in E Major:
>
> https://youtu.be/d0rNFyXw120

No, I don't. I'm looking to hear a recommended (not by you, I realize)
link to hear this particular pianist on this particular piano in this
particular repertory (Schubert sonatas).
--
Al Eisner

In article <alpine.LRH.2.00.2202281603000.6672@iris02.slac.stanford.edu>,
Al Eisner <eisner@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Are there any suggested links other than spotify (which I don't
>use)?

I don't know what's the best choice for a free audition. I got the
studio master download from Qobuz.

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:58:08 PM UTC-5, Al Eisner wrote:
> I'm looking to hear a recommended (not by you, I realize)
> link to hear this particular pianist on this particular piano
> in this particular repertory (Schubert sonatas).
> --

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tobias+koch+topic+schubert

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:21:04 PM UTC-5, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:07:13 PM UTC-5, Al Eisner wrote:
> >
> > This is such a large dichotomy that I think I'd like to hear some of
> > it. Are there any suggested links other than spotify (which I don't
> > use)? Preferably (for a start) something other than the first
> > movement of D960.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tobias+koch+topic+schubert
>

(How) do you like it?

dk

In article <c75ffabc-cb28-4b5d-87d8-b14688a5636dn@googlegroups.com>,
Mandryka <howie.stone01@gmail.com> wrote:
>Here's the booklet, complete with essay.
>http://tobiaskoch.eu/wp-content/uploads/SCHUBERT_SONATAS_TOBIAS_KOCH.pdf

I finally read this today. Some interesting thoughts... does talk
about cultivating a singing quality toward the end.

(I also took the special character out of the Subject line, but I
suppose it's too late for the thread overall....)

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, Dan Koren wrote:

> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:21:04 PM UTC-5, Dan Koren wrote:
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:07:13 PM UTC-5, Al Eisner wrote:
>>>
>>> This is such a large dichotomy that I think I'd like to hear some of
>>> it. Are there any suggested links other than spotify (which I don't
>>> use)? Preferably (for a start) something other than the first
>>> movement of D960.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tobias+koch+topic+schubert
>>
>
> (How) do you like it?
>
> dk

Were you suggesting that I did not know how to search youtube? (Rather
insulting!) I was hoping that one of the advocates would make a more
specific suggestion. However, lacking that, I did a little sampling of
D958. Not particularly attracted by it, but out of respect I will give
him a longer try when I have a chance.
--
Al Eisner

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, Todd M. McComb wrote:

> In article <c75ffabc-cb28-4b5d-87d8-b14688a5636dn@googlegroups.com>,
> Mandryka <howie.stone01@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here's the booklet, complete with essay.
>> http://tobiaskoch.eu/wp-content/uploads/SCHUBERT_SONATAS_TOBIAS_KOCH.pdf
>
> I finally read this today. Some interesting thoughts... does talk
> about cultivating a singing quality toward the end.
>
> (I also took the special character out of the Subject line, but I
> suppose it's too late for the thread overall....)
>
Well, no extra Re's in your post this time.
--
Al Eisner