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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek

Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)

dk

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On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 12:05:26 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
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> Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
>
> dk

(2022 Y. upload):

"Douglas Murray on People's Need for Religion"

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 30 Jul 2022 07:32 UTC

On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 12:24:13 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 12:05:26 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
> >
> > Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
>
> (2022 Y. upload):
>
> "Douglas Murray on People's Need for Religion"

Cheat! If you have anything to say,
write it up and post it. No quotes!

BTW there are plenty of people
who have no need for religion.

dk

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On 7/30/22 12:05 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
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> Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
>
> dk

My email signature line:

“When men stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing—they
believe in anything.”

G.K. Chesterton

He was right.

Bob Harper

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What will replace religion? Religion.

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On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 12:36:02 PM UTC-7, Todd M. McComb wrote:
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> What will replace religion? Religion.

Unfortunately, you are right!

Time to board the bus for Sedna.

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 02:49 UTC

On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 11:47:49 AM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
> On 7/30/22 12:05 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
> >
> > Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
>
> My email signature line:
> “When men stop believing in God, they don’t
> believe in nothing—they believe in anything.”
> G.K. Chesterton
> He was right.

Your essay has been downgraded because you
quoted someone else's work, instead of writing
your own thesis! ;-)

Chesterton, like most writers and artists, did
not know anything about Physics. Case closed.

I don't believe in God. I believe in PDEs -- aka
Partial Differential Equations! ;-)

dk

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 by: gggg gggg - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 04:31 UTC

On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 11:47:49 AM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
> On 7/30/22 12:05 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
> >
> > Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
> >
> > dk
> My email signature line:
>
>
> “When men stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing—they
> believe in anything.”
>
> G.K. Chesterton
>
>
> He was right.
>
> Bob Harper

- If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him.

Voltaire

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 by: gggg gggg - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 04:33 UTC

On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 9:31:36 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 11:47:49 AM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
> > On 7/30/22 12:05 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
> > >
> > > Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
> > >
> > > dk
> > My email signature line:
> >
> >
> > “When men stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing—they
> > believe in anything.”
> >
> > G.K. Chesterton
> >
> >
> > He was right.
> >
> > Bob Harper
> - If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him.
>
> Voltaire

- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.

Seneca

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On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 2:33:49 PM UTC+10, gggg gggg wrote:

> - Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.
>
> Seneca

Poppea got him in the end... Replaced by Damigella.

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

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 by: Todd M. McComb - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 07:10 UTC

In article <k1fFK.56933$Ae2.27217@fx35.iad>,
Bob Harper <bob.harper@comcast.net> wrote:
>"When men stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing,
>they believe in anything."
>G.K. Chesterton

Apropos my earlier answer, let me modify this statement slightly,
to "they believe in... something else." Otherwise, spot on.

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 by: gggg gggg - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 07:51 UTC

On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 11:47:49 AM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
> On 7/30/22 12:05 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
> >
> > Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
> >
> > dk
> My email signature line:
>
>
> “When men stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing—they
> believe in anything.”
>
> G.K. Chesterton
>
>
> He was right.
>
> Bob Harper

https://thefederalist.com/2014/05/06/the-seven-most-popular-g-k-chesterton-quotes-he-never-said/

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 08:19 UTC

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:10:28 AM UTC-7, Todd M. McComb wrote:
> In article <k1fFK.56933$Ae2....@fx35.iad>,
> Bob Harper <bob.h...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >"When men stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing,
> >they believe in anything."
> >G.K. Chesterton
> Apropos my earlier answer, let me modify this statement slightly,
> to "they believe in... something else." Otherwise, spot on.

Anything wrong with that? Is one not
allowed to believe in chocolate and
in scotch?

dk

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 by: Frank Berger - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 15:15 UTC

On 7/31/2022 4:19 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:10:28 AM UTC-7, Todd M. McComb wrote:
>> In article <k1fFK.56933$Ae2....@fx35.iad>,
>> Bob Harper <bob.h...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> "When men stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing,
>>> they believe in anything."
>>> G.K. Chesterton
>> Apropos my earlier answer, let me modify this statement slightly,
>> to "they believe in... something else." Otherwise, spot on.
>
> Anything wrong with that? Is one not
> allowed to believe in chocolate and
> in scotch?
>
> dk

There's a difference between being allowed to do something and it being good for you (or anybody else). I have respect for people who believe in things that make them behave well. Disrespect for the opposite, and neutrality for the rest. Belief in chocolate and scotch is in the latter category unless consumed to excess. Not that chocolate and scotch cultists give a hoot why I think of them.

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On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 8:15:23 AM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 7/31/2022 4:19 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:10:28 AM UTC-7, Todd M. McComb wrote:
> >> In article <k1fFK.56933$Ae2....@fx35.iad>,
> >> Bob Harper <bob.h...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>> "When men stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing,
> >>> they believe in anything."
> >>> G.K. Chesterton
> >> Apropos my earlier answer, let me modify this statement slightly,
> >> to "they believe in... something else." Otherwise, spot on.
> >
> > Anything wrong with that? Is one not
> > allowed to believe in chocolate and
> > in scotch?
>
> There's a difference between being allowed to
> do something and it being good for you (or
> anybody else). I have respect for people who
> believe in things that make them behave well.
> Disrespect for the opposite, and neutrality for
> the rest. Belief in chocolate and scotch is in
> the latter category unless consumed to excess.
> Not that chocolate and scotch cultists give a
> hoot why I think of them.

i actually do! Thanks!

dk

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 by: Todd M. McComb - Sun, 31 Jul 2022 16:32 UTC

In article <8ececf39-885a-4362-bdd2-21194bdac3bbn@googlegroups.com>,
Dan Koren <dan.koren@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Apropos my earlier answer, let me modify this statement slightly,
>>to "they believe in... something else."
>Anything wrong with that?

There's no use arguing with the inevitable.

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On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 12:05:26 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
>
> Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
>
> dk

(2022 Y. upload):

"The value of religion in society | Dan Reynolds and Lex Fridman"

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On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 12:05:26 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
>
> Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
>
> dk

(Recent Y. upload):

"Why the world is going crazy—and how to win back our minds | Jamie Wheal | Big Think"

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On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 10:52:29 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 12:05:26 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
> >
> > Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
>
> (Recent Y. upload):
>
> "Why the world is going crazy—and how to win back our minds | Jamie Wheal | Big Think"

Obviously, quote bots are replacing religion.
Or at least trying very hard!

dk

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 by: mswd...@gmail.com - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:28 UTC

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 2:52:00 AM UTC-5, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 11:47:49 AM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
> > On 7/30/22 12:05 AM, Dan Koren wrote:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
> > >
> > > Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
> > >
> > > dk
> > My email signature line:
> >
> >
> > “When men stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing—they
> > believe in anything.”
> >
> > G.K. Chesterton
> >
> >
> > He was right.
> >
> > Bob Harper
> https://thefederalist.com/2014/05/06/the-seven-most-popular-g-k-chesterton-quotes-he-never-said/

When men stop believing in G.K. Chesterton, they believe in the next aphorism-abled author who can point to the superiority of religious belief and the moral poverty of all other thought, and who can accomplish this warfare in a kind, matter-of-fact tone.

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On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 12:05:26 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
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> Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
>
> dk

"How and why did religion evolve?":

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190418-how-and-why-did-religion-evolve

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On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 12:05:26 AM UTC-7, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqJQvJ7i7Ek
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> Please submit your essays by before midnight on Sunday! ;-)
>
> dk

"Will religion ever disappear?":

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20141219-will-religion-ever-disappear

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As good an excuse as any to post this fine poem:

https://allpoetry.com/Church-Going

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 by: Kerrison - Wed, 24 Aug 2022 21:55 UTC

On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 6:15:18 PM UTC+1, Joe wrote:
> As good an excuse as any to post this fine poem:
>
> https://allpoetry.com/Church-Going

There's a fascinating filmed event on YouTube, in which the proposition "Is religion a force for good in the world?" was discussed by former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and author-journalist Christopher Hitchens, who saw all religions as false, harmful and authoritarian. In his discussion he quoted the physicist Stephen Weinberger as saying that "in the ordinary moral universe, the good will do the best they can, the worse will do the worst they can, but if you want to make good people do wicked things, you'll need religion." By the time he'd finished demolishing the stuttering, on-the-defensive Tony Blair, the vast majority of the audience agreed with Hitchens that religion was indeed not good for the world ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSJ5CrZ_3Pg&t=5321s

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On 8/24/2022 5:55 PM, Kerrison wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 6:15:18 PM UTC+1, Joe wrote:
>> As good an excuse as any to post this fine poem:
>>
>> https://allpoetry.com/Church-Going
>
>
> There's a fascinating filmed event on YouTube, in which the proposition "Is religion a force for good in the world?" was discussed by former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and author-journalist Christopher Hitchens, who saw all religions as false, harmful and authoritarian. In his discussion he quoted the physicist Stephen Weinberger as saying that "in the ordinary moral universe, the good will do the best they can, the worse will do the worst they can, but if you want to make good people do wicked things, you'll need religion." By the time he'd finished demolishing the stuttering, on-the-defensive Tony Blair, the vast majority of the audience agreed with Hitchens that religion was indeed not good for the world ...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSJ5CrZ_3Pg&t=5321s

Without taking a position, it is a lot easier to see and measure the harm religion does than the good.

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