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Subject: Re: Debussy Preludes Book 2 -- Richter
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like a school kid you're trying to argue yourself out of "There is more immigration to Israel from France than from any other Western country."
That's what you said and it's not true.

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Subject: Re: Debussy Preludes Book 2 -- Richter
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On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 11:15:48 PM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
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> like a school kid you're trying to argue yourself out of
> "There is more immigration to Israel from France than
> from any other Western country." That's what you said
> and it's not true.

Are you looking into the mirror? You are the school kid.

Anyone with the slightest understanding of locgi, math,
physics and statistics knows the unnormalized metrics
are irrelevant and meaningless. I did not state explicitely
the numbers were normalized, because it goes without
saying. Fiddlers of course cannot be expected to know
anything besides bowing.

dk

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Subject: Re: Debussy Preludes Book 2 -- Richter
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The issue here is your relentless xenophobia.
You have posted several "I hate the French" topics. You're constantly harassing French members, trying to make the place unbearable for them. You recently called a poster from Germany an "imbecile Nazi" (I believe he liked Beethoven or something).
That's why you're trying to picture France as the nr 1 anti-semitic country.

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Subject: Re: Debussy Preludes Book 2 -- Richter
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On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 8:30:20 AM UTC+2, dan....@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Are you looking into the mirror? You are the school kid.
>
OMG you're doing a "no, you're the puppet".

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 by: MELMOTH - Sat, 24 Sep 2022 07:31 UTC

Le 24/09/2022, Herman a supposé :
> The issue here is your relentless xenophobia.
> You have posted several "I hate the French" topics.

???...I have never seen this type of post !...
Koko loves me, so loves France, of course !...
Anti-Semitism is well present in France, it's undeniable...But my
country is certainly not the most anti-Semitic one in Europe, eh !...
I have already said it several times here : koko is SICK, and most
probably INCURABLE...So he needs all our love to survive...Try to make
an effort, my boy...He needs you...

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On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 9:31:05 AM UTC+2, MELMOTH wrote:
>koko is SICK, and most
> probably INCURABLE...So he needs all our love to survive...

yes, yes and no.

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On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 12:03:25 AM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
>
> You have posted several "I hate the French" topics.

I posted a link to a humorous song by Howard Goodall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Hate_the_French that
goes back to the 1980s and that no one ever takes
literally. You may well be the only person on this
planet who is so dumb a literalist to take this
seriously. One must be seriously brain damaged
to take this is as xenophobia.

I also never said France was the nr. 1 anti-semitic
country. All I said was that France "is still a profoundly
anti-semitic country". As so many times befor you
read between lines and you make things up out of
context. Context matters. You are a dumb literalist
completely lacking any scents of humour.

For the record, I do not hate the French, nor anyone
else. I am however likely to reassess the Dutch.
France is a great country and a great nation that
gave a lot more to civilization than the Netherlands.

Take care,

dk

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 by: Frank Berger - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 01:55 UTC

On 9/24/2022 3:31 AM, MELMOTH wrote:
> Le 24/09/2022, Herman a supposé :
>> The issue here is your relentless xenophobia.
>> You have posted several "I hate the French" topics.
>
> ???...I have never seen this type of post !...
> Koko loves me, so loves France, of course !...
> Anti-Semitism is well present in France, it's undeniable...But my country is certainly not the most anti-Semitic one in Europe, eh !...
> I have already said it several times here : koko is SICK, and most probably INCURABLE...So he needs all our love to survive...Try to make an effort, my boy...He needs you...
>

When one declares that this or that country is the most antisemitic, it would help to know what sort of statistics you have in mind to measure it. Murders of Jews? Exclusion of Jews from society? France has a huge Arab immigrant population among whom there is a lot of antimsemitsm and a lot of that has manifested in violence. These are facts. I don't think Jews are in more physical danger among Western countries than France at the present time.

What European country or countries did you have in mind as being more antisemitic than France and how do you measure it?

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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 04:31 UTC

On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 12:31:05 AM UTC-7, MELMOTH wrote:
> Le 24/09/2022, Herman a supposé :
> > The issue here is your relentless xenophobia.
> > You have posted several "I hate the French" topics.
> ???...I have never seen this type of post !...
>
> Koko loves me, so loves France, of course !...

I love many things French, however you are
not among them! ;-)

> Anti-Semitism is well present in France, it's
> undeniable...

Thanks for ackowledging the obvious.

> But my country is certainly not the most anti-
> Semitic one in Europe, eh !...

By what metric(s)? IMHO the numbers speak
for themselves:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/970381/anti-semitic-incidents-france/

Also check the following:

https://www.france24.com/en/20190213-france-surge-anti-semitism-jews-hate-speech-yellow-vests-far-right/
https://www.ajc.org/news/top-3-takeaways-from-ajcs-survey-on-antisemitism-in-france/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/rise-of-anti-semitism-elevates-fears-in-france/
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/french-jews-fleeing-country/
https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/an-analysis-of-antisemitism-in-france/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_21st-century_France/
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/anti-semitism-in-france/

If you have verifiable data other Western nations
have a higher (normalized) rate of Anti-Semitic
incidents, please provide references.

Thanks!

dk

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On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 6:55:25 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
>
> What European country or countries did you
> have in mind as being more antisemitic than
> France and how do you measure it?

The absolute number of anti-semitic incidents
appears to be higher in the UK and in Germany
than in France:

https://www.statista.com/topics/5169/antisemitism-in-europe/#dossierKeyfigures

However the incidents in France have been more
violent, including some highly publicized murders
of elderly or otherwise defenseless innocent people.

Also note the numbers reported by Statista are for
single years and are not normalized per capita or
by religion or ethnic group of the attackers. There
appears to be plenty of data out there for anyone
interested to do their own research.

dk

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Subject: Re: Debussy Preludes Book 2 -- Richter
From: her...@yahoo.com (Herman)
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 by: Herman - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 08:02 UTC

On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 10:23:56 AM UTC+2, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 12:03:25 AM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
> >
> > You have posted several "I hate the French" topics.
> I posted a link to a humorous song

You're a terrible liar, don't even bother.

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Subject: Re: Debussy Preludes Book 2 -- Richter
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LBLLE-wn3y8

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Subject: Re: Debussy Preludes Book 2 -- Richter
From: dan.ko...@gmail.com (Dan Koren)
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 by: Dan Koren - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 09:40 UTC

On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:02:14 AM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 10:23:56 AM UTC+2, dan....@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 12:03:25 AM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
> > >
> > > You have posted several "I hate the French" topics.
> > I posted a link to a humorous song
> You're a terrible liar, don't even bother.

You are a delusional imbecile.

dk


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