In article <sa0gkb$k59$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 6/10/2021 11:37 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <m7e4cg1boabmejl9gfqu6d627gjjl299i5@4ax.com>,
>> Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 21:07:47 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <s9r5jr$ju6$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/9/2021 2:23 PM, John W Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/9/21 7:18 AM, Wolffan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021 Jun08, Ted Nolan wrote
>>>>>>> (in article <ii9ercFo5obU1@mid.individual.net>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article<0001HW.266FABF004857FB870000A2BC38F@news.supernews.com>,
>>>>>>>> Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021 Jun07, Dorothy J Heydt wrote
>>>>>>>>> (in article <quD4FM.1Fx7@kithrup.com>):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article<s9m565$gpc$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 10:47 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article<s9kej3$jhe$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Over The Hedge: Interstellar Buc-ees
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/06/05
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One has to have one's standards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. What's Buc-ee's and where does it dwell?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /google
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. Currently pursuing
>>>>>>>>>>>> expansion into more of the Deep South.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll pass.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll advise that you stop by if ever traveling in the south. The
>>>>>>>>>>> bathrooms are freaking awesome and continuously cleaned by a multiple
>>>>>>>>>>> person staff. No toilet stalls, toilet rooms. I just got my truck
>>>>>>>>>>> washed at ours.
>>>>>>>>>>> https://buc-ees.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's lovely, Lynn. Good for them. But after a week in
>>>>>>>>>> Florida (N.B. the bathrooms at W Disney World are also
>>>>>>>>>> immaculate), I don't want to go even near there again. Hot and
>>>>>>>>>> steamy, and this was in May. Note also that the park segments
>>>>>>>>>> are surrounded by miles and miles of native Floridian swamp,
>>>>>>>>>> carefully preserved, and surrounded by signs saying "Caution:
>>>>>>>>>> alligators and snakes may be present." My daughter was rather
>>>>>>>>>> disappointed that we saw no alligators except animatronics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The ‘gators are there. A while back a family ignored the signs. They
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> now missing a two-year-old. Every ever so often there’s a news story
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> someone walking their dog too close to a canal or other body of
>>>>>>>>> water, and
>>>>>>>>> how little Fluffy became ‘gator chow. Remember, it’s _Florida_. If
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey, they got no monopoly!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/state/south-carolina/article251954923.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other states may have ‘gators. Florida has _lots_ of ‘gators, some of
>>>>>>> which like fast food in general and Wendy’s in particular; one
>>>>>>> recently had
>>>>>>> some fun in Lee County, a.k.a. Ye Back of Beyond, Fl. Florida also has
>>>>>>> Florida Man; one Florida Man thought that it’d be funny to throw a baby
>>>>>>> ‘gator into the window at a Wendy’s drive-through.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Back in the 70s, in Sarasota, my father had a neighbor ’gator that just
>>>>>> /loved/ marshmallows. Came around to beg for ’em.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't feed the varmints ! They will never stop coming around and then
>>>>> they eat your cat.
>>>>
>>>> Fortunately (in this context) I live atop a hill several miles
>>>> away from the nearest body of water, which is San Francisco Bay.
>>>>
>>>> Poisoned marshmallows appear to be called for.
>>>
>>> Unless, of course, they are Protected.
>>
>> I doubt that the State of California has seen any need to protect
>> alligators, since AFAIK any alligators found in the wild here
>> would be an invasive species.
>>
>> I do seem to recall that in the 1950s or thereabouts alligators
>> became a threatened species on their home turf, because
>> alligator-hide purses and shoes were very fashionable (and
>> expensive, and therefore a status symbol). The fact that WDW had
>> to put up all those signs by every body of water suggests that
>> they have made a recovery.
>
>There are at least 250,000 to 500,000 alligators in Texas alone. They
>are not endangered whatsoever.
>
>We also have four million deer and two million feral pigs in Texas.
>Want some ?

Thanks, we have more feral pigs in California than we want or
need. Mostly in Marin County (north of the Golden Gate), a place
traditionally inhabited by hippies, rich people, and rich
hippies. The late Phil Frank, creator of _Farley_, got a lot of
strips about the feral pigs driving Mercedeses and wearing
high-style sunglasses.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 15:21:28 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/10/2021 11:37 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <m7e4cg1boabmejl9gfqu6d627gjjl299i5@4ax.com>,
>> Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 21:07:47 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <s9r5jr$ju6$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/9/2021 2:23 PM, John W Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/9/21 7:18 AM, Wolffan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021 Jun08, Ted Nolan wrote
>>>>>>> (in article <ii9ercFo5obU1@mid.individual.net>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article<0001HW.266FABF004857FB870000A2BC38F@news.supernews.com>,
>>>>>>>> Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021 Jun07, Dorothy J Heydt wrote
>>>>>>>>> (in article <quD4FM.1Fx7@kithrup.com>):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article<s9m565$gpc$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 10:47 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article<s9kej3$jhe$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Over The Hedge: Interstellar Buc-ees
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/06/05
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One has to have one's standards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. What's Buc-ee's and where does it dwell?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /google
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. Currently pursuing
>>>>>>>>>>>> expansion into more of the Deep South.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll pass.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll advise that you stop by if ever traveling in the south. The
>>>>>>>>>>> bathrooms are freaking awesome and continuously cleaned by a multiple
>>>>>>>>>>> person staff. No toilet stalls, toilet rooms. I just got my truck
>>>>>>>>>>> washed at ours.
>>>>>>>>>>> https://buc-ees.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's lovely, Lynn. Good for them. But after a week in
>>>>>>>>>> Florida (N.B. the bathrooms at W Disney World are also
>>>>>>>>>> immaculate), I don't want to go even near there again. Hot and
>>>>>>>>>> steamy, and this was in May. Note also that the park segments
>>>>>>>>>> are surrounded by miles and miles of native Floridian swamp,
>>>>>>>>>> carefully preserved, and surrounded by signs saying "Caution:
>>>>>>>>>> alligators and snakes may be present." My daughter was rather
>>>>>>>>>> disappointed that we saw no alligators except animatronics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The ‘gators are there. A while back a family ignored the signs. They
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> now missing a two-year-old. Every ever so often there’s a news story
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> someone walking their dog too close to a canal or other body of
>>>>>>>>> water, and
>>>>>>>>> how little Fluffy became ‘gator chow. Remember, it’s _Florida_. If
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey, they got no monopoly!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/state/south-carolina/article251954923.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other states may have ‘gators. Florida has _lots_ of ‘gators, some of
>>>>>>> which like fast food in general and Wendy’s in particular; one
>>>>>>> recently had
>>>>>>> some fun in Lee County, a.k.a. Ye Back of Beyond, Fl. Florida also has
>>>>>>> Florida Man; one Florida Man thought that it’d be funny to throw a baby
>>>>>>> ‘gator into the window at a Wendy’s drive-through.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Back in the 70s, in Sarasota, my father had a neighbor ’gator that just
>>>>>> /loved/ marshmallows. Came around to beg for ’em.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't feed the varmints ! They will never stop coming around and then
>>>>> they eat your cat.
>>>>
>>>> Fortunately (in this context) I live atop a hill several miles
>>>> away from the nearest body of water, which is San Francisco Bay.
>>>>
>>>> Poisoned marshmallows appear to be called for.
>>>
>>> Unless, of course, they are Protected.
>>
>> I doubt that the State of California has seen any need to protect
>> alligators, since AFAIK any alligators found in the wild here
>> would be an invasive species.
>>
>> I do seem to recall that in the 1950s or thereabouts alligators
>> became a threatened species on their home turf, because
>> alligator-hide purses and shoes were very fashionable (and
>> expensive, and therefore a status symbol). The fact that WDW had
>> to put up all those signs by every body of water suggests that
>> they have made a recovery.
>
>There are at least 250,000 to 500,000 alligators in Texas alone. They
>are not endangered whatsoever.
>
>We also have four million deer and two million feral pigs in Texas.
>Want some ?

Hey, at least in Texas you're allowed to do something about them. Here
in CT if you find a bear in your house you're supposed to let the bear
have the place.

On 6/9/21 9:09 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <quGMIx.1L45@kithrup.com>,
> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>> In article <s9rjkc$2h5$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you want to see alligators, come to south Texas. I live 10 miles
>>> north of Brazos Bend State Park that has 35,000 alligators in it.
>>> Several of my neighbors are complaining to our Sheriff that their ponds
>>> have alligators in them now. The 3 to 5 foot long gators are leaving
>>> the state park now because the bigger gators are eating them. The
>>> sheriff won't do anything the gators "become a nuisance".
>>
>> Uh, did you leave out the word "unless" there?
>>
>>> https://tpwd.texas.gov/state-parks/brazos-bend
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, I don't think I will. If I felt a drastic need to see
>> alligators, I'd get someone to take me to Steinhart Aquarium,
>> where I could also satisfy my curiosity as to whether they still
>> have a tank full of piranka.
>
> Aaaargh. PIRANHA.

You mean it’s not a flesh-stripping fish from the Duna?

>> And if I don't feel moved to do even that, I'll get out the DVD
>> of _The Muppet Movie_ and look at the Muppet alligator.
>>
>> --
>> Dorothy J. Heydt
>> Vallejo, California
>> djheydt at gmail dot com
>> Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
>
>

--
John W. Kennedy
"The blind rulers of Logres
Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
-- Charles Williams. "Taliessin through Logres: Prelude"

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 6:55:01 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <c3e2cgh51d4hp4sre...@4ax.com>,
> J. Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 21:07:47 GMT, djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>In article <s9r5jr$ju6$1...@dont-email.me>,
> >>Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>On 6/9/2021 2:23 PM, John W Kennedy wrote:
> >>>> On 6/9/21 7:18 AM, Wolffan wrote:
> >>>>> On 2021 Jun08, Ted Nolan wrote
> >>>>> (in article <ii9erc...@mid.individual.net>):
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> In article<0001HW.266FABF004...@news.supernews.com>,
> >>>>>> Wolffan <akwo...@zoho.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2021 Jun07, Dorothy J Heydt wrote
> >>>>>>> (in article <quD4F...@kithrup.com>):
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In article<s9m565$gpc$1...@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2021 10:47 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> In article<s9kej3$jhe$1...@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Over The Hedge: Interstellar Buc-ees
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/06/05
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> One has to have one's standards.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Okay. What's Buc-ee's and where does it dwell?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> /google
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Texas, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. Currently pursuing
> >>>>>>>>>> expansion into more of the Deep South.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'll pass.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'll advise that you stop by if ever traveling in the south. The
> >>>>>>>>> bathrooms are freaking awesome and continuously cleaned by a multiple
> >>>>>>>>> person staff. No toilet stalls, toilet rooms. I just got my truck
> >>>>>>>>> washed at ours.
> >>>>>>>>> https://buc-ees.com/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's lovely, Lynn. Good for them. But after a week in
> >>>>>>>> Florida (N.B. the bathrooms at W Disney World are also
> >>>>>>>> immaculate), I don't want to go even near there again. Hot and
> >>>>>>>> steamy, and this was in May. Note also that the park segments
> >>>>>>>> are surrounded by miles and miles of native Floridian swamp,
> >>>>>>>> carefully preserved, and surrounded by signs saying "Caution:
> >>>>>>>> alligators and snakes may be present." My daughter was rather
> >>>>>>>> disappointed that we saw no alligators except animatronics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The ‘gators are there. A while back a family ignored the signs. They
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>> now missing a two-year-old. Every ever so often there’s a news story
> >>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>> someone walking their dog too close to a canal or other body of
> >>>>>>> water, and
> >>>>>>> how little Fluffy became ‘gator chow. Remember, it’s _Florida_. If
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hey, they got no monopoly!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/state/south-carolina/article251954923.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Other states may have ‘gators. Florida has _lots_ of ‘gators, some of
> >>>>> which like fast food in general and Wendy’s in particular; one
> >>>>> recently had
> >>>>> some fun in Lee County, a.k.a. Ye Back of Beyond, Fl. Florida also has
> >>>>> Florida Man; one Florida Man thought that it’d be funny to throw a baby
> >>>>> ‘gator into the window at a Wendy’s drive-through.
> >>>>
> >>>> Back in the 70s, in Sarasota, my father had a neighbor ’gator that just
> >>>> /loved/ marshmallows. Came around to beg for ’em.
> >>>
> >>>Don't feed the varmints ! They will never stop coming around and then
> >>>they eat your cat.
> >>
> >>Fortunately (in this context) I live atop a hill several miles
> >>away from the nearest body of water, which is San Francisco Bay.
> >>
> >>Poisoned marshmallows appear to be called for.
> >
> >Poisoning gators in the park?
> If I found gators in the park (there's one a couple blocks
> downhill from us) I would, by preference, call Animal Control and
> have them lassoo the critter and take it to the Steinhart
> Aquarium in San Francisco, where they already have a pool full of
> alligators.
>
> But yes, if a gator came near any of my cats, I would feed it
> something lethal. And, preferably, quick-acting.
> --

Famously, the California Academy of Sciences has an albino alligator.
https://www.calacademy.org/ (scroll down)

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