Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
Released on June 30, 1971.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory

I watched it again in the last year. Still a great fantasy.

Lynn

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>Released on June 30, 1971.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>

Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
point out that the book dates from 1964.

Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
enjoy the book more.

The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

In article <kryRI.21889$6p.4085@fx36.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>>Released on June 30, 1971.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>>
>
>Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
>point out that the book dates from 1964.
>
>Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
>enjoy the book more.
>
>The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

And of course there's a "Pitch Meeting":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inf5du8u7OE
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

On 8/13/2021 1:00 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>> Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>> Released on June 30, 1971.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>>
>
> Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
> point out that the book dates from 1964.
>
> Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
> enjoy the book more.
>
> The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

The Depp version was just strange. Gene Wilder is freaking awesome at
that point in his career.

Good to know that it was based on a book. I thought so but was not sure.

Thanks,
Lynn

On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 2:00:52 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> writes:
> >Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
> >Released on June 30, 1971.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
> >
> Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
> point out that the book dates from 1964.
>
> Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
> enjoy the book more.
>
> The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 2:00:52 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> writes:
> >Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
> >Released on June 30, 1971.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
> >
> Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
> point out that the book dates from 1964.
>
> Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
> enjoy the book more.

I love the Gene Wilder movie, but I also thought the book was
better. I also enjoyed the sequel book. Off the top of my head,
its title is "Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator" - if not, that's
mighty close. And while my kids haven't read it, they both know
"Vermicious Knids".

> The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

The Depp version was awful, but -- for any tastes -- that's completely
on Tim Burton. It's what he does.

Tony
P.S. A tech glitch may have led to an empty post right before this one.

On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 3:17:05 PM UTC-4, Tony Nance wrote:
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 2:00:52 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> > Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> writes:
> > >Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
> > >Released on June 30, 1971.
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
> > >
> > Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
> > point out that the book dates from 1964.
> >
> > Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
> > enjoy the book more.
> I love the Gene Wilder movie, but I also thought the book was
> better. I also enjoyed the sequel book. Off the top of my head,
> its title is "Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator" - if not, that's
> mighty close. And while my kids haven't read it, they both know
> "Vermicious Knids".
> > The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.
> The Depp version was awful, but -- for any tastes -- that's completely
> on Tim Burton. It's what he does.

<sigh - stupid autocorrect and inattentive editing on my part>
That should say "-- for my tastes -- " up there. "my", not "any"
<sigh again>

>
> Tony
> P.S. A tech glitch may have led to an empty post right before this one.

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 8/13/2021 1:00 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

>>>Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>>>Released on June 30, 1971.

>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory

>>Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
>>point out that the book dates from 1964.

>>Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
>>enjoy the book more.

>>The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

>The Depp version was just strange. Gene Wilder is freaking awesome at
>that point in his career.

>Good to know that it was based on a book. I thought so but was not sure.

It was a loose adaptation. Quite a lot of it was new to the movie. Roald
Dahl was not please with the story changes, nor the title change, given
that Charlie was meant to be the central character.

On 2021-08-13 18:13:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:

> On 8/13/2021 1:00 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>>> Released on June 30, 1971.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>>>
>>
>> Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
>> point out that the book dates from 1964.
>>
>> Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
>> enjoy the book more.
>>
>> The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.
>
> The Depp version was just strange.

Johnny Dipstick is just strange ... as is Tim Burton, and very slightly
less so his wife Helena Bonham-Carter.

> Gene Wilder is freaking awesome at that point in his career.

This is one of the very few musical movies I actually like. Another one
is "Bugsy Malone", although ruined by the ending simply turning into a
massive food fight.

> Good to know that it was based on a book. I thought so but was not sure.
>
> Thanks,
> Lynn

Your parents never read / gave you Roald Dahl's books?? They should be
in prison for cruelty to children! ;-)

The original Roadl Dahl book is caled "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory".

Reportedly child actor Peter Ostrum (Charlie Bucket) was offered a
three picture deal, but he decided not to take it and became a
veterinarian instead. Originally there was meant to be at least one
more movie based on the sequel book "Charlie and the Great Glass
Elevator" which carries on the story immediately after the first book,
but Dahl disliked the Gene wilder movie so much that he refused to
allow any more movies or TV shows to be made. There is also an
unfinished third Roald Dahl book called "Charlie in the White House",
which may or may not have been what the third film would have been.

There is now a new prequel movie coming called "Wonka" due in March
2023, but it's not based on any Roald Dahl book - it's simply rubbish
made up by Hollyweird following a younger Wonka before he opened the
factory (i.e. discovering the Oompa Loompas, etc.).

The other best-known Roald Dahl book is "James and the Giant Peach". A
movie was made of it using stop-motion animation, but it's another of
weirdo Tim Burton's strange garbage.

On 2021-08-13 17:54:07 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>
> Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
> Released on June 30, 1971.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>
> I watched it again in the last year. Still a great fantasy.
>
> Lynn

Not really a "sci-fi" movie / book, although the sequel book does go
into space.

On 2021-08-13 22:34:11 +0000, Your Name said:

> On 2021-08-13 18:13:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>
>> On 8/13/2021 1:00 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>>>> Released on June 30, 1971.
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>>>>
>>>
>>> Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
>>> point out that the book dates from 1964.
>>>
>>> Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
>>> enjoy the book more.
>>>
>>> The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.
>>
>> The Depp version was just strange.
>
> Johnny Dipstick is just strange ... as is Tim Burton, and very slightly
> less so his wife Helena Bonham-Carter.
>
>
>
>> Gene Wilder is freaking awesome at that point in his career.
>
> This is one of the very few musical movies I actually like. Another one
> is "Bugsy Malone", although ruined by the ending simply turning into a
> massive food fight.
>
>
>
>> Good to know that it was based on a book. I thought so but was not sure.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lynn
>
> Your parents never read / gave you Roald Dahl's books?? They should be
> in prison for cruelty to children! ;-)
>
> The original Roadl Dahl book is caled "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory".
>
> Reportedly child actor Peter Ostrum (Charlie Bucket) was offered a
> three picture deal, but he decided not to take it and became a
> veterinarian instead. Originally there was meant to be at least one
> more movie based on the sequel book "Charlie and the Great Glass
> Elevator" which carries on the story immediately after the first book,
> but Dahl disliked the Gene wilder movie so much that he refused to
> allow any more movies or TV shows to be made. There is also an
> unfinished third Roald Dahl book called "Charlie in the White House",
> which may or may not have been what the third film would have been.
>
> There is now a new prequel movie coming called "Wonka" due in March
> 2023, but it's not based on any Roald Dahl book - it's simply rubbish
> made up by Hollyweird following a younger Wonka before he opened the
> factory (i.e. discovering the Oompa Loompas, etc.).
>
> The other best-known Roald Dahl book is "James and the Giant Peach". A
> movie was made of it using stop-motion animation, but it's another of
> weirdo Tim Burton's strange garbage.

I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish
movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time)
that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 6:34:17 PM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:

[snip]

> Johnny Dipstick is just strange ... as is Tim Burton, and very slightly
> less so his wife Helena Bonham-Carter.

[/snip]

Burton is strange. Helena is Lestrange. :)

--
Kevin R

On 8/13/2021 8:52 PM, Kevrob wrote:
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 6:34:17 PM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
>
>
> [snip]
>
>> Johnny Dipstick is just strange ... as is Tim Burton, and very slightly
>> less so his wife Helena Bonham-Carter.
>
> [/snip]
>
> Burton is strange. Helena is Lestrange. :)

+1

Lynn

On 8/13/2021 5:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2021-08-13 17:54:07 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>
>> Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>> Released on June 30, 1971.
>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>>
>> I watched it again in the last year.  Still a great fantasy.
>>
>> Lynn
>
> Not really a "sci-fi" movie / book, although the sequel book does go
> into space.

Like I said, fantasy, not science fiction.

Lynn

On 2021-08-14 03:05:03 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
> On 8/13/2021 5:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2021-08-13 17:54:07 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>
>>> Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>>> Released on June 30, 1971.
>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>>>
>>> I watched it again in the last year.  Still a great fantasy.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>
>> Not really a "sci-fi" movie / book, although the sequel book does go
>> into space.
>
> Like I said, fantasy, not science fiction.
>
> Lynn

Despite many people like book publishers lumping the two together,
sci-fi and fantasy are not the same thing (although in some cases they
crossover) ... technically both newsgroups are for sci-fi, not fantasy.
:-)

On 2021-08-14 00:35:45 +0000, Your Name said:

> On 2021-08-13 22:34:11 +0000, Your Name said:
>
>> On 2021-08-13 18:13:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>
>>> On 8/13/2021 1:00 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>>>>> Released on June 30, 1971.
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
>>>> point out that the book dates from 1964.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
>>>> enjoy the book more.
>>>>
>>>> The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.
>>>
>>> The Depp version was just strange.
>>
>> Johnny Dipstick is just strange ... as is Tim Burton, and very slightly
>> less so his wife Helena Bonham-Carter.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Gene Wilder is freaking awesome at that point in his career.
>>
>> This is one of the very few musical movies I actually like. Another one
>> is "Bugsy Malone", although ruined by the ending simply turning into a
>> massive food fight.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Good to know that it was based on a book. I thought so but was not sure.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lynn
>>
>> Your parents never read / gave you Roald Dahl's books?? They should be
>> in prison for cruelty to children! ;-)
>>
>> The original Roadl Dahl book is caled "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory".
>>
>> Reportedly child actor Peter Ostrum (Charlie Bucket) was offered a
>> three picture deal, but he decided not to take it and became a
>> veterinarian instead. Originally there was meant to be at least one
>> more movie based on the sequel book "Charlie and the Great Glass
>> Elevator" which carries on the story immediately after the first book,
>> but Dahl disliked the Gene wilder movie so much that he refused to
>> allow any more movies or TV shows to be made. There is also an
>> unfinished third Roald Dahl book called "Charlie in the White House",
>> which may or may not have been what the third film would have been.
>>
>> There is now a new prequel movie coming called "Wonka" due in March
>> 2023, but it's not based on any Roald Dahl book - it's simply rubbish
>> made up by Hollyweird following a younger Wonka before he opened the
>> factory (i.e. discovering the Oompa Loompas, etc.).
>>
>> The other best-known Roald Dahl book is "James and the Giant Peach". A
>> movie was made of it using stop-motion animation, but it's another of
>> weirdo Tim Burton's strange garbage.
>
> I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish
> movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time)
> that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dahl books.

Another one I forgot (and not in my box-set of books) is "Matilda"
which also had a movie, and an up-coming sequel (although not based on
a Dahl book).

I've never read nor seen either of these last two stories.

On 14/08/2021 01.24, Your Name wrote:
> On 2021-08-14 03:05:03 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>> On 8/13/2021 5:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>> On 2021-08-13 17:54:07 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>>
>>>> Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>>>> Released on June 30, 1971.
>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>>>>
>>>> I watched it again in the last year.  Still a great fantasy.
>>>
>>> Not really a "sci-fi" movie / book, although the sequel book does go
>>> into space.
>>
>> Like I said, fantasy, not science fiction.
>
> Despite many people like book publishers lumping the two together,
> sci-fi and fantasy are not the same thing (although in some cases they
> crossover)

Everybody agrees that science fiction and fantasy are two different
things. However, no two people agree on the location of the line between
them. See the FAQ for rasw:

<http://leepers.us/evelyn/faqs/sf-written.htm#08>

> technically both newsgroups are for sci-fi, not fantasy.

No, at least the "written" newgroup is for Speculative Fiction, which
includes both science fiction and fantasy. Again, see the FAQ:
<http://leepers.us/evelyn/faqs/sf-written.htm#00>

--
Michael F. Stemper
I feel more like I do now than I did when I came in.

On Saturday, 14 August 2021 at 14:26:46 UTC+1, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
> On 14/08/2021 01.24, Your Name wrote:
> > On 2021-08-14 03:05:03 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
> >> On 8/13/2021 5:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
> >>> On 2021-08-13 17:54:07 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
> >>>>
> >>>> Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
> >>>> Released on June 30, 1971.
> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
> >>>>
> >>>> I watched it again in the last year. Still a great fantasy.
> >>>
> >>> Not really a "sci-fi" movie / book, although the sequel book does go
> >>> into space.
> >>
> >> Like I said, fantasy, not science fiction.
> >
> > Despite many people like book publishers lumping the two together,
> > sci-fi and fantasy are not the same thing (although in some cases they
> > crossover)
> Everybody agrees that science fiction and fantasy are two different
> things. However, no two people agree on the location of the line between
> them. See the FAQ for rasw:
>
> <http://leepers.us/evelyn/faqs/sf-written.htm#08>
> > technically both newsgroups are for sci-fi, not fantasy.
> No, at least the "written" newgroup is for Speculative Fiction, which
> includes both science fiction and fantasy. Again, see the FAQ:
> <http://leepers.us/evelyn/faqs/sf-written.htm#00>

We have friendly arguments about where the line is,
but they need to stay friendly. Straying across the line
shouldn't get you into trouble.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 12:54:07 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>Released on June 30, 1971.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>
>I watched it again in the last year. Still a great fantasy.

I never liked it. Boring and obvious was, IIRC, my conclusion.

So, having read some of the other responses, I can say:

-- I agree with Dahl; I'm sure the book was a /lot/ better
-- I took one look at Depp-as-Wonka and lost all interest in the
remake
-- Helena Bonham-Carter did an exellent job in the Harry Potter
movies; sadly, she then played the same role in other movies, where it
was not actually appropriate
-- I did like the /James and the Giant Peach/ movie, particularly the
rhinosaurus
-- wasn't /The Witches/ (the 1990 one, I haven't seen the newer one
yet) also from a book by Dahl? -- now, /that/ was a good movie!
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

On Saturday, 14 August 2021 at 17:37:37 UTC+1, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 12:54:07 -0500, Lynn McGuire
> <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
> >Released on June 30, 1971.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
> >
> >I watched it again in the last year. Still a great fantasy.
> I never liked it. Boring and obvious was, IIRC, my conclusion.
>
> So, having read some of the other responses, I can say:
>
> -- I agree with Dahl; I'm sure the book was a /lot/ better
> -- I took one look at Depp-as-Wonka and lost all interest in the
> remake
> -- Helena Bonham-Carter did an exellent job in the Harry Potter
> movies; sadly, she then played the same role in other movies, where it
> was not actually appropriate
> -- I did like the /James and the Giant Peach/ movie, particularly the
> rhinosaurus

"That's going to cause a little confusion"
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tylosaurus>

> -- wasn't /The Witches/ (the 1990 one, I haven't seen the newer one
> yet) also from a book by Dahl? -- now, /that/ was a good movie!
> --
> "I begin to envy Petronius."
> "I have envied him long since."

Bizarrely, the 1960s film adaptation of Willy Wonka now figures into the upcoming
Canadian federal election due to the Conservative Party of Canada's courageous
opening shot, which begins with accusations that the Liberals want a majority
and then... Well, see for yourselves.

https://twitter.com/CPC_HQ/status/1426242355422765056
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My tor pieces at https://www.tor.com/author/james-davis-nicoll/
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My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll

In article <sf8v0r$nmb$1@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>Bizarrely, the 1960s film adaptation of Willy Wonka now figures into the upcoming
>Canadian federal election due to the Conservative Party of Canada's courageous
>opening shot, which begins with accusations that the Liberals want a majority
>and then... Well, see for yourselves.
>
>https://twitter.com/CPC_HQ/status/1426242355422765056

I feel like I need to clarify that this came from a registered political
party that has formed national governments in recent memory.
--
My reviews can be found at http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/
My tor pieces at https://www.tor.com/author/james-davis-nicoll/
My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/
My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll

On 8/14/2021 1:24 AM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2021-08-14 03:05:03 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>> On 8/13/2021 5:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>> On 2021-08-13 17:54:07 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
>>>>
>>>> Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
>>>> Released on June 30, 1971.
>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory
>>>>
>>>> I watched it again in the last year.  Still a great fantasy.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> Not really a "sci-fi" movie / book, although the sequel book does go
>>> into space.
>>
>> Like I said, fantasy, not science fiction.
>>
>> Lynn
>
> Despite many people like book publishers lumping the two together,
> sci-fi and fantasy are not the same thing (although in some cases they
> crossover) ... technically both newsgroups are for sci-fi, not fantasy. :-)

I read about 50/50 science fiction and fantasy. I post both reviews
here. This is a Speculative Fiction group according to the FAQ.
http://leepers.us/evelyn/faqs/sf-written.htm

Lynn

On Saturday, 14 August 2021 at 18:41:57 UTC+1, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <sf8v0r$nmb$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
> James Nicoll <jdni...@panix.com> wrote:
> >Bizarrely, the 1960s film adaptation of Willy Wonka now figures into the upcoming
> >Canadian federal election due to the Conservative Party of Canada's courageous
> >opening shot, which begins with accusations that the Liberals want a majority
> >and then... Well, see for yourselves.
> >
> >https://twitter.com/CPC_HQ/status/1426242355422765056
> I feel like I need to clarify that this came from a registered political
> party that has formed national governments in recent memory.
> --
> My reviews can be found at http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/
> My tor pieces at https://www.tor.com/author/james-davis-nicoll/
> My Dreamwidth at https://james-davis-nicoll.dreamwidth.org/
> My patreon is at https://www.patreon.com/jamesdnicoll

May I ask for further clarification: does the government
have a majority at present?

On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 12:20:41 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, 14 August 2021 at 18:41:57 UTC+1, James Nicoll wrote:
>> In article <sf8v0r$nmb$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
>> James Nicoll <jdni...@panix.com> wrote:
>> >Bizarrely, the 1960s film adaptation of Willy Wonka now figures into the upcoming
>> >Canadian federal election due to the Conservative Party of Canada's courageous
>> >opening shot, which begins with accusations that the Liberals want a majority
>> >and then... Well, see for yourselves.
>> >
>> >https://twitter.com/CPC_HQ/status/1426242355422765056
>> I feel like I need to clarify that this came from a registered political
>> party that has formed national governments in recent memory.
>> --
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>May I ask for further clarification: does the government
>have a majority at present?

Canada is not like the US. Canada has a bunch of different political
parties with significant presence. In the House of Commons the
largest block is the liberals with 155 out of 338. Senators are
appointed, not elected, so while they have affiliations they don't
really mean as much.