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* xkcd: Every Data TableLynn McGuire
+* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableDorothy J Heydt
|+* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableRobert Carnegie
||`* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableDimensional Traveler
|| `* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableKevrob
||  `* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableDimensional Traveler
||   +* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableLawrence Watt-Evans
||   |+- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableJ. Clarke
||   |`* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableChristian Weisgerber
||   | `* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableLawrence Watt-Evans
||   |  `* Re: xkcd: Every Data Tablepete...@gmail.com
||   |   `* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableDorothy J Heydt
||   |    `- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableJ. Clarke
||   +* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableJ. Clarke
||   |`- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableLynn McGuire
||   +* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableDorothy J Heydt
||   |`* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableDimensional Traveler
||   | +* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableJ. Clarke
||   | |`- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableDorothy J Heydt
||   | +- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableDorothy J Heydt
||   | `- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableScott Lurndal
||   +* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableMagewolf
||   |+* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableLynn McGuire
||   ||+- Re: xkcd: Every Data Tablepete...@gmail.com
||   ||`- Re: xkcd: Every Data TablePaul S Person
||   |`- Re: xkcd: Every Data TablePaul S Person
||   +- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableLynn McGuire
||   +* Re: xkcd: Every Data TableJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
||   |`* Re: xkcd: Every Data Tablepete...@gmail.com
||   | `- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
||   `- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableHamish Laws
|`- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableRobert Carnegie
`- Re: xkcd: Every Data TableAlan Baker

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 by: Jibini Kula Tumbili - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 20:54 UTC

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in
news:sfbjja$bfo$1@dont-email.me:

> As bad as MREs are reported to be I have to believe they are
> still worlds better than what some of our ancestors ate to think
> up recipes like escargot and some of the ... stranger stuff I've
> heard of.
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A1karl

"Fermented shark contains a large amount of ammonia and has a
strong smell, similar to that of many cleaning products. It is
often served in cubes on toothpicks. Those new to it may gag
involuntarily on the first attempt to eat it because of the high
ammonia content. First-timers are sometimes advised to pinch their
nose while taking the first bite, as the odor is much stronger than
the taste. It is often eaten with a shot of the local spirit, a
type of akvavit called brenniv�n."

After being buried in the ground to rot for three months, then hung
in the wind to mumify for three more, many of the restaurants that
server it have warning signs at the door.

"Chef Anthony Bourdain described fermented shark as "the single
worst, most disgusting and terrible tasting thing" he had ever
eaten."

"Chef Gordon Ramsay challenged James May to sample three
"delicacies" (Laotian snake whiskey, bull penis and fermented
shark) on The F Word; after eating fermented shark, Ramsay spat it
out, but May was able to keep his down."

"In his series Ainsley Eats the Streets, chef Ainsley Harriott was
unable to tolerate the heavy ammonia taste and described it as
"like chewing a urine-infested mattress.""

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 22:05 UTC

In article <3f4fe4df-9387-47a8-ac78-a00b2d42cfe4n@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:21:46 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:13:50 -0000 (UTC), Christian Weisgerber
>> <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2021-08-15, Lawrence Watt-Evans <misencha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Escargot, though, aren't particularly strange. I like escargot. It's
>> >> not just the French who eat them, either; in Catalonia they're called
>> >> caracoles and cooked in the shell.
>> >
>> >Also east of France:
>> >https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badische_Schneckensuppe
>> Didn't know that! Thanks.
>
>...and north. I used to eat at the named restaurant.
>
>http://www.foodsofengland.co.uk/wallfish.htm

"Wall-fish!" Cool.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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 by: pete...@gmail.com - Tue, 17 Aug 2021 05:07 UTC

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:54:30 PM UTC-4, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote in
> news:sfbjja$bfo$1...@dont-email.me:
> > As bad as MREs are reported to be I have to believe they are
> > still worlds better than what some of our ancestors ate to think
> > up recipes like escargot and some of the ... stranger stuff I've
> > heard of.
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A1karl
>
> "Fermented shark contains a large amount of ammonia and has a
> strong smell, similar to that of many cleaning products. It is
> often served in cubes on toothpicks. Those new to it may gag
> involuntarily on the first attempt to eat it because of the high
> ammonia content. First-timers are sometimes advised to pinch their
> nose while taking the first bite, as the odor is much stronger than
> the taste. It is often eaten with a shot of the local spirit, a
> type of akvavit called brennivín."
>
> After being buried in the ground to rot for three months, then hung
> in the wind to mumify for three more, many of the restaurants that
> server it have warning signs at the door.
>
> "Chef Anthony Bourdain described fermented shark as "the single
> worst, most disgusting and terrible tasting thing" he had ever
> eaten."
>
> "Chef Gordon Ramsay challenged James May to sample three
> "delicacies" (Laotian snake whiskey, bull penis and fermented
> shark) on The F Word; after eating fermented shark, Ramsay spat it
> out, but May was able to keep his down."
>
> "In his series Ainsley Eats the Streets, chef Ainsley Harriott was
> unable to tolerate the heavy ammonia taste and described it as
> "like chewing a urine-infested mattress.""

I've eaten it. Probably hugely overpriced at a restaurant in Iceland.
Fortunately, I had a shot of Brenvin to kill the taste. Icelandic gas
stations had it for sale in racks like beef jerky, suggesting it not
just a local oddesey.

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On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:21:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 8/16/2021 1:58 PM, Magewolf wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 10:41:00 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/15/2021 6:45 AM, Kevrob wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 10:33:36 PM UTC-4, Dimensional Traveler
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/14/2021 6:02 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, 15 August 2021 at 01:15:04 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <sf93ia$20e$1...@dont-email.me>, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>>> <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> xkcd: Every Data Table https://xkcd.com/2502/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> True dat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So much better than his xkcd 2500 that had totally massaged climate
>>>>>>>> that does not even resemble reality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Explained at:
>>>>>>>> https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2502:_Every_Data_Table
>>>>>>> After the dagger comes the double-hilted dagger.
>>>>>>
>>>> [q
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> double dagger or diesis ‡
>>>>
>>>>>> Not the lead pipe? Or the monkey wrench may be more appropriate to
>>>>>> the events described.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the bright side, the table does exist after 2021...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Anal retentive record keeping survivalists.... :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ..at least until the MREs holdout.
>>>>
>>> As bad as MREs are reported to be I have to believe they are still
>>> worlds better than what some of our ancestors ate to think up recipes
>>> like escargot and some of the ... stranger stuff I've heard of.
>>
>> I have had MREs a few times,one of my cousins would bring some on my
>> dad's hunting trips, and some of them were alright but I think the big
>> problem is that they mostly did not taste like food.
>
>Today's MREs are pretty good. My former USMC son lived on them for
>months in Iraq. They even have platoon level MREs for feeding twenty
>Marines in the field. The scrambled eggs are terrible though.

Thus carrying on the Ancient Tradition known to me from the C-Rats.

>The big problem with MREs is they are low on fiber. The prevailing
>theory on that among the Marines is that constipated soldiers fight
>harder and meaner.
>
>Lynn
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 18:58:58 -0000 (UTC), Magewolf
<Magewolf@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 10:41:00 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>
>> On 8/15/2021 6:45 AM, Kevrob wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 10:33:36 PM UTC-4, Dimensional Traveler
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 8/14/2021 6:02 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 15 August 2021 at 01:15:04 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>> In article <sf93ia$20e$1...@dont-email.me>, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>> <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> xkcd: Every Data Table https://xkcd.com/2502/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True dat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So much better than his xkcd 2500 that had totally massaged climate
>>>>>>> that does not even resemble reality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Explained at:
>>>>>>> https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2502:_Every_Data_Table
>>>>>> After the dagger comes the double-hilted dagger.
>>>>>
>>> [q
>>>
>>>
>>> double dagger or diesis ‡
>>>
>>>>> Not the lead pipe? Or the monkey wrench may be more appropriate to
>>>>> the events described.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the bright side, the table does exist after 2021...
>>>>>
>>>> Anal retentive record keeping survivalists.... :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ..at least until the MREs holdout.
>>>
>> As bad as MREs are reported to be I have to believe they are still
>> worlds better than what some of our ancestors ate to think up recipes
>> like escargot and some of the ... stranger stuff I've heard of.
>
>I have had MREs a few times,one of my cousins would bring some on my
>dad's hunting trips, and some of them were alright but I think the big
>problem is that they mostly did not taste like food.

Until we got used to it, a lot of us said the same thing about Army
food in the messhall. Made from scratch, BTW.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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 by: Jibini Kula Tumbili - Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:28 UTC

"pete...@gmail.com" <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in
news:b829e201-a501-4181-9d5c-8a9b86790bfan@googlegroups.com:

> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 4:54:30 PM UTC-4, Jibini Kula
> Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote in
>> news:sfbjja$bfo$1...@dont-email.me:
>> > As bad as MREs are reported to be I have to believe they are
>> > still worlds better than what some of our ancestors ate to
>> > think up recipes like escargot and some of the ... stranger
>> > stuff I've heard of.
>> >
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A1karl
>>
>> "Fermented shark contains a large amount of ammonia and has a
>> strong smell, similar to that of many cleaning products. It is
>> often served in cubes on toothpicks. Those new to it may gag
>> involuntarily on the first attempt to eat it because of the
>> high ammonia content. First-timers are sometimes advised to
>> pinch their nose while taking the first bite, as the odor is
>> much stronger than the taste. It is often eaten with a shot of
>> the local spirit, a type of akvavit called brennivín."
>>
>> After being buried in the ground to rot for three months, then
>> hung in the wind to mumify for three more, many of the
>> restaurants that server it have warning signs at the door.
>>
>> "Chef Anthony Bourdain described fermented shark as "the single
>> worst, most disgusting and terrible tasting thing" he had ever
>> eaten."
>>
>> "Chef Gordon Ramsay challenged James May to sample three
>> "delicacies" (Laotian snake whiskey, bull penis and fermented
>> shark) on The F Word; after eating fermented shark, Ramsay spat
>> it out, but May was able to keep his down."
>>
>> "In his series Ainsley Eats the Streets, chef Ainsley Harriott
>> was unable to tolerate the heavy ammonia taste and described it
>> as "like chewing a urine-infested mattress.""
>
> I've eaten it. Probably hugely overpriced at a restaurant in
> Iceland. Fortunately, I had a shot of Brenvin to kill the taste.
> Icelandic gas stations had it for sale in racks like beef jerky,
> suggesting it not just a local oddesey.
>
So far as I can tell, there's a certain minority of locals who eat
it, either as a fashion statement or because, shudder, they
actually like it. But like the whale jerky[1], it's mostly for
tourists. Icelandic cuisine is a "thing" these days.

[1]Legal to take out of Iceland, but illegal to take into any other
country except maybe Japan. Supposed to be very high in energy
giving goodness, and is apparently popular among those who hike on
the glaciers.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 22:05:20 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>In article <3f4fe4df-9387-47a8-ac78-a00b2d42cfe4n@googlegroups.com>,
>pete...@gmail.com <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 12:21:46 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:13:50 -0000 (UTC), Christian Weisgerber
>>> <na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 2021-08-15, Lawrence Watt-Evans <misencha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Escargot, though, aren't particularly strange. I like escargot. It's
>>> >> not just the French who eat them, either; in Catalonia they're called
>>> >> caracoles and cooked in the shell.
>>> >
>>> >Also east of France:
>>> >https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badische_Schneckensuppe
>>> Didn't know that! Thanks.
>>
>>...and north. I used to eat at the named restaurant.
>>
>>http://www.foodsofengland.co.uk/wallfish.htm
>
>"Wall-fish!" Cool.

FWIW, I once crossed swords with a Saundra Wallfesh. Found out later
that she was nationally ranked in epee. Unfortunately for her we were
fighting with sabers, and she just didn't have the mass for that.
She's the one who terrorized a group of wannabee muggers/rapists/we're
not sure what. Seems they mistook the wrapped-up item she was
carrying for a fishing rod--there were references to same according to
her. It wasn't. It was an antique rapier. And she managed to get it
out . . . Short slender unarmed girl they were ready to deal with.
D'Artagnan not so much.

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On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 3:41:02 AM UTC+10, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 8/15/2021 6:45 AM, Kevrob wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 10:33:36 PM UTC-4, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> >> On 8/14/2021 6:02 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 15 August 2021 at 01:15:04 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> >>>> In article <sf93ia$20e$1...@dont-email.me>,
> >>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> xkcd: Every Data Table
> >>>>> https://xkcd.com/2502/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> True dat.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So much better than his xkcd 2500 that had totally massaged climate that
> >>>>> does not even resemble reality.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Explained at:
> >>>>> https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2502:_Every_Data_Table
> >>>> After the dagger comes the double-hilted dagger.
> >>>
> > [q
> >
> >
> > double dagger or diesis ‡
> >
> >>> Not the lead pipe? Or the monkey wrench may be
> >>> more appropriate to the events described.
> >>>
> >>> On the bright side, the table does exist after 2021...
> >>>
> >> Anal retentive record keeping survivalists.... :)
> >>
> >
> > ..at least until the MREs holdout.
> >
> As bad as MREs are reported to be I have to believe they are still
> worlds better than what some of our ancestors ate to think up recipes
> like escargot and some of the ... stranger stuff I've heard of.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-28873899
suggests that eating snails dates back at least 30,000 years...

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