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 by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 03:20 UTC

In article <ngfqkgtuqhabqg7j8ogud7i0sclfaolkue@4ax.com>,
Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 10:16:00 -0700 (PDT), Jack Bohn
><jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In addition to the idea of putting heat where you are instead of the
>whole house, a waterbed is also a thermal mass. (How much? if 2m by
>2m, even at a quarter meter thick, that's a ton of water!) And should
>help in house temperature control. Alas, the converse, of cooling
>doesn't seem to work, even a "cool" waterbed is probably just below body
>temperature, way above any room temperature that it would be worth
>installing an air conditioner to achieve.
>
>And that ton of water will drive your body temperature to match its
>body temperature. Despite a wool mattress pad, I had to sleep draped
>over pillows.
>
>And then there's awakening at three A.M. to the need to siphon a ton
>of water out through a second-floor window.
>

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 by: J. Clarke - Fri, 24 Sep 2021 22:57 UTC

On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 22:55:57 -0400, Joy Beeson
<jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 10:16:00 -0700 (PDT), Jack Bohn
><jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In addition to the idea of putting heat where you are instead of the whole house, a waterbed is also a thermal mass. (How much? if 2m by 2m, even at a quarter meter thick, that's a ton of water!) And should help in house temperature control. Alas, the converse, of cooling doesn't seem to work, even a "cool" waterbed is probably just below body temperature, way above any room temperature that it would be worth installing an air conditioner to achieve.
>
>And that ton of water will drive your body temperature to match its
>body temperature. Despite a wool mattress pad, I had to sleep draped
>over pillows.

Needed a better heater. Mine could make me uncomfortably warm.

>And then there's awakening at three A.M. to the need to siphon a ton
>of water out through a second-floor window.

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