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 by: The Starmaker - Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:30 UTC

As I mentioned before..

Albert Einstein knew that they were going to drop the bomb on japan
months earilier...

and Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the russians..

one other method I didn't mentioned was
passing information to the russians with...
comic books...

This was published before
they dropped the bomb on Japan..

"“Now the explosion of a pound of U-235,” he said, “wouldn’t be too unbearably violent, though it re- leases as much energy as a hun- dred million pounds of TNT.
Set off on an island, it might lay waste the whole island, uprooting trees, killing all animal life, but even that fifty thousand tons of TNT wouldn’t s
eriously disturb the really unimaginable tonnage which even a small island represents.”
“I assume,” she broke in, “that you’re going to make a point ? You’re not just giving me a lecture on high explosives?”
“Wait. The trouble is, they’re afraid that that explosion of en- ergy would be so incomparably vio- lent, its sheer, minute concentration of unbearable
energy so great, that surrounding matter would be set off. If you could imagine concen- trating half a billion of the most violent lightning strokes you ever saw,
compressing all their fury into a space less than half the size of a pack of cigarettes — ^you’d get some idea of the concentrated es- sence
of hyperviolence tl\at explo- sion would represent. It’s not sim- ply the amount of energy; it’s the frightful concentration of intensity in a minute volume.
“The surrounding matter, un- able to maintain a self-supportin.."
atomic explosion normally, might be hyper-stimulated to atomic ex- plosion under U-235’s forces and, in the immediate neighborhood, re- lease its energy, too.
That is, the explosion would not involve only one pound of U-23S, but also five or fifty or five thousand tons of other matter. The extent of the explosion is a matter of conjec- ture.”
“Get to the point,” she said im- patiently.
“Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
explosion. And I mean every- thing.
“So they haven’t experimented. They could end the war overnight with controlled U-235 bombs. They could end this cycle of civili- zation with one or
two uncontroUed bombs. And they don’t know which they’d have if they made ’em. So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explo- sion of U-235."

https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up

https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up

https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up

https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Another... Einstein Lied Again
>
> is how Albert Einstein talks about a stranger in this letter..
>
> https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
>
> "In view of the situation you may think it desirable to have more
>
> permanent contact maintained between the Administration and the group
>
> of physicists working on chain reactions in America."
>
> (between the Administration and the group
>
> of physicists)
>
> "One possible way
>
> of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person
>
> who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
>
> capacity."
>
> ("a person...in an inofficial capacity.")
>
> "His task might comprise the following:"
>
> (now i know it's a guy!)
>
> "to approach Government Departments,"
> "keep them informed of the further development"
> "put forward recommendations for Government action"
> "giving particular attention securing a supply of uranium..."
> "to speed up the experimental work"
> "providing funds"
> "through his contacts with private persons"
> "obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories"
>
> Who is this masked man????
>
> Albert Einstein is pretending he doesn't have a person in mind.
>
> "inofficial capacity."????? wat does that mean (besides no suchs word)
>
> Meaning: Somebody not connected to your government but connected to US.
>
> Who else...Leo Szilard.
>
> Notice how Albert Einstein 'worded' the letter not to give any
> indication of who that person might be with words like:
>
> "a person who has your confidence"
>
> but then Albert Einstein takes away that thought with:
>
> "and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
>
> capacity."
>
> So, who can that possibly be, a person who has the President of the United States confidence but
> is NOT official, not authorized or acknowledged by the United States Government.
>
> Einstein Lied Again.
>
> Only Einstein can lie like that.
>
> oh, did you see the draft?
>
> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGXjsNVkAEhrh0?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > furthermore, what about a) and b)?
> >
> > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> >
> > a) "...securing a supply of uranium..."
> >
> > and
> >
> > b) b) *to speed up the experimental work*, ..
> >
> > 'which is at present'
> >
> > being carried on
> >
> > within the University laboratories.
> >
> > Get the Uranium and speed up the experiment.
> >
> > What was Albert Einstein doing? Already building an atomic bomb BEFORE notifying
> > the United States President????
> >
> > b) *to speed up the experimental
> >
> > His own little private manhattan project?
> >
> > Certaintly not to kill Germans...it was just 'an experiment', to just...test this theory.
> >
> > In other words, Albert Einstein HOODWINKED the entire planet into thinking
> > the atomic bomb was to protect the world, when in fact...it was just
> > an experiment', to just...test his 1905 theory.
> >
> > http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1946/1101460701_400.jpg
> >
> > He lied to everbody. Had everybody beliving it...even everyone in the scientific community.
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Biggest problem they had at the Manhattan Project was...
> > >
> > > How do you blow up that atomic bomb without getting killed during a
> > > test?
> > >
> > > Same problem you had when you lit a firecracker or cherry bomb..
> > > short fuse...you had to throw it away fact before it explodes in your
> > > hand!
> > >
> > > Of course, there is only one person that was an Expert in Denotation
> > > of bombs in those days...Albert Einstein.
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein lifted his finger and wrote: According to the
> > > suggestion you expressed in your letter I am giving you here reasons
> > > for my opinion concerning the best localization for initiation of the
> > > Torpedo explosion...
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1455974257809260546
> > >
> > > Page 1
> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSoXXFUUAApz8f?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > Page 2
> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSojvRVQAAjcLq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111
> > >
> > > On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 11:32:05 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Shouldn't have Albert Einstein have gotten The Nobel Peace Prize for The Atomic Bomb?
> > > >
> > > >I mean, 'it' got Japan to surrender.
> > > >
> > > >The fact is, Albert Einstein is The Godfather of the Atomic Bomb, ...isn't that Right????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2021 18:17:32 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >In article <610DDBC4.431@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > >> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Of course I know that...he dictated the letter to his secretary..(dats wat
> > > >> >> they did in those
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Still wrong.
> > > >>
> > > >> So, Albert Einstein is groping his secretary..
> > > >> rubbing her butt and putting his hand up her blouse..
> > > >> and he tells her..
> > > >>
> > > >> "Did you finish typing that letter for me, honey?"
> > > >>
> > > >> She sez "Here it is, you pervert!"
> > > >>
> > > >> He looks at it...(then does a spell check)
> > > >>
> > > >> Understandably, she misspelled Dr. Zsilard's name a few times.
> > > >>
> > > >> He tells her "You wrote Zillard, but there is only one L, and it
> > > >> begins with a S and small z, ..."
> > > >>
> > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/1
> > > >>
> > > >> So she buttons up her blouse and retypes the letter...
> > > >>
> > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/2
> > > >>
> > > >> Then he tells her..."BEND OVER YOU FUCKING RUSSIAN BITCH!"
> > > >>
> > > >> She tells him..."You're the bomb!"
> > > >> --
> > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > >> the unchallengeable.
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.


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On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 1:30:29 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> As I mentioned before..
>
> Albert Einstein knew that they were going to drop the bomb on japan
> months earilier...
>
> and Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the russians..
>
> one other method I didn't mentioned was
> passing information to the russians with...
> comic books...
>
> This was published before
> they dropped the bomb on Japan..
>
> "“Now the explosion of a pound of U-235,” he said, “wouldn’t be too unbearably violent, though it re- leases as much energy as a hun- dred million pounds of TNT.
> Set off on an island, it might lay waste the whole island, uprooting trees, killing all animal life, but even that fifty thousand tons of TNT wouldn’t s
> eriously disturb the really unimaginable tonnage which even a small island represents.”
> “I assume,” she broke in, “that you’re going to make a point ? You’re not just giving me a lecture on high explosives?”
> “Wait. The trouble is, they’re afraid that that explosion of en- ergy would be so incomparably vio- lent, its sheer, minute concentration of unbearable
> energy so great, that surrounding matter would be set off. If you could imagine concen- trating half a billion of the most violent lightning strokes you ever saw,
> compressing all their fury into a space less than half the size of a pack of cigarettes — ^you’d get some idea of the concentrated es- sence
> of hyperviolence tl\at explo- sion would represent. It’s not sim- ply the amount of energy; it’s the frightful concentration of intensity in a minute volume.
> “The surrounding matter, un- able to maintain a self-supportin.."
> atomic explosion normally, might be hyper-stimulated to atomic ex- plosion under U-235’s forces and, in the immediate neighborhood, re- lease its energy, too.
> That is, the explosion would not involve only one pound of U-23S, but also five or fifty or five thousand tons of other matter. The extent of the explosion is a matter of conjec- ture.”
> “Get to the point,” she said im- patiently.
> “Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
> It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
> utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
> explosion. And I mean every- thing.
> “So they haven’t experimented. They could end the war overnight with controlled U-235 bombs. They could end this cycle of civili- zation with one or
> two uncontroUed bombs. And they don’t know which they’d have if they made ’em. So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explo- sion of U-235."
>
> https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
>
>
> https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
>
> https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
>
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation
>
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Another... Einstein Lied Again
> >
> > is how Albert Einstein talks about a stranger in this letter..
> >
> > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> >
> > "In view of the situation you may think it desirable to have more
> >
> > permanent contact maintained between the Administration and the group
> >
> > of physicists working on chain reactions in America."
> >
> > (between the Administration and the group
> >
> > of physicists)
> >
> > "One possible way
> >
> > of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person
> >
> > who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> >
> > capacity."
> >
> > ("a person...in an inofficial capacity.")
> >
> > "His task might comprise the following:"
> >
> > (now i know it's a guy!)
> >
> > "to approach Government Departments,"
> > "keep them informed of the further development"
> > "put forward recommendations for Government action"
> > "giving particular attention securing a supply of uranium..."
> > "to speed up the experimental work"
> > "providing funds"
> > "through his contacts with private persons"
> > "obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories"
> >
> > Who is this masked man????
> >
> > Albert Einstein is pretending he doesn't have a person in mind.
> >
> > "inofficial capacity."????? wat does that mean (besides no suchs word)
> >
> > Meaning: Somebody not connected to your government but connected to US.
> >
> > Who else...Leo Szilard.
> >
> > Notice how Albert Einstein 'worded' the letter not to give any
> > indication of who that person might be with words like:
> >
> > "a person who has your confidence"
> >
> > but then Albert Einstein takes away that thought with:
> >
> > "and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> >
> > capacity."
> >
> > So, who can that possibly be, a person who has the President of the United States confidence but
> > is NOT official, not authorized or acknowledged by the United States Government.
> >
> > Einstein Lied Again.
> >
> > Only Einstein can lie like that.
> >
> > oh, did you see the draft?
> >
> > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1
> >
> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGXjsNVkAEhrh0?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > furthermore, what about a) and b)?
> > >
> > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > >
> > > a) "...securing a supply of uranium..."
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > b) b) *to speed up the experimental work*, ..
> > >
> > > 'which is at present'
> > >
> > > being carried on
> > >
> > > within the University laboratories.
> > >
> > > Get the Uranium and speed up the experiment.
> > >
> > > What was Albert Einstein doing? Already building an atomic bomb BEFORE notifying
> > > the United States President????
> > >
> > > b) *to speed up the experimental
> > >
> > > His own little private manhattan project?
> > >
> > > Certaintly not to kill Germans...it was just 'an experiment', to just....test this theory.
> > >
> > > In other words, Albert Einstein HOODWINKED the entire planet into thinking
> > > the atomic bomb was to protect the world, when in fact...it was just
> > > an experiment', to just...test his 1905 theory.
> > >
> > > http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1946/1101460701_400.jpg
> > >
> > > He lied to everbody. Had everybody beliving it...even everyone in the scientific community.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Biggest problem they had at the Manhattan Project was...
> > > >
> > > > How do you blow up that atomic bomb without getting killed during a
> > > > test?
> > > >
> > > > Same problem you had when you lit a firecracker or cherry bomb..
> > > > short fuse...you had to throw it away fact before it explodes in your
> > > > hand!
> > > >
> > > > Of course, there is only one person that was an Expert in Denotation
> > > > of bombs in those days...Albert Einstein.
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein lifted his finger and wrote: According to the
> > > > suggestion you expressed in your letter I am giving you here reasons
> > > > for my opinion concerning the best localization for initiation of the
> > > > Torpedo explosion...
> > > >
> > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1455974257809260546
> > > >
> > > > Page 1
> > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSoXXFUUAApz8f?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > Page 2
> > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSojvRVQAAjcLq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > >
> > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 11:32:05 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Shouldn't have Albert Einstein have gotten The Nobel Peace Prize for The Atomic Bomb?
> > > > >
> > > > >I mean, 'it' got Japan to surrender.
> > > > >
> > > > >The fact is, Albert Einstein is The Godfather of the Atomic Bomb, ....isn't that Right????
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2021 18:17:32 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >In article <610DDB...@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > > >> > The Starmaker <star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> Of course I know that...he dictated the letter to his secretary..(dats wat
> > > > >> >> they did in those
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Still wrong.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So, Albert Einstein is groping his secretary..
> > > > >> rubbing her butt and putting his hand up her blouse..
> > > > >> and he tells her..
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Did you finish typing that letter for me, honey?"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> She sez "Here it is, you pervert!"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> He looks at it...(then does a spell check)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Understandably, she misspelled Dr. Zsilard's name a few times.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> He tells her "You wrote Zillard, but there is only one L, and it
> > > > >> begins with a S and small z, ..."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/1
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So she buttons up her blouse and retypes the letter...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/2
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Then he tells her..."BEND OVER YOU FUCKING RUSSIAN BITCH!"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> She tells him..."You're the bomb!"
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > >> the unchallengeable.
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.


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 by: The Starmaker - Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:33 UTC

and the last sentence reads: "So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explosion of U-235." - astounding science fiction march 1944

The atomic bomb was dropped on Japan on August 1945...

and this book was published March 1944..

so I guess the comic book were still getting updates from Albert Einstein on it's progess.

dats why Albert Einstein said:

"....starting a chain reaction of a scope great enough to destroy part or all of this planet." - Albert Einstein

"...imagine the earth being destroyed like a nova by a stellar explosion" -Albert Einstein

"Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
explosion. And I mean every- thing." - astounding science fiction march 1944

Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)

https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> As I mentioned before..
>
> Albert Einstein knew that they were going to drop the bomb on japan
> months earilier...
>
> and Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the russians..
>
> one other method I didn't mentioned was
> passing information to the russians with...
> comic books...
>
> This was published before
> they dropped the bomb on Japan..
>
> "“Now the explosion of a pound of U-235,” he said, “wouldn’t be too unbearably violent, though it re- leases as much energy as a hun- dred million pounds of TNT.
> Set off on an island, it might lay waste the whole island, uprooting trees, killing all animal life, but even that fifty thousand tons of TNT wouldn’t s
> eriously disturb the really unimaginable tonnage which even a small island represents.”
> “I assume,” she broke in, “that you’re going to make a point ? You’re not just giving me a lecture on high explosives?”
> “Wait. The trouble is, they’re afraid that that explosion of en- ergy would be so incomparably vio- lent, its sheer, minute concentration of unbearable
> energy so great, that surrounding matter would be set off. If you could imagine concen- trating half a billion of the most violent lightning strokes you ever saw,
> compressing all their fury into a space less than half the size of a pack of cigarettes — ^you’d get some idea of the concentrated es- sence
> of hyperviolence tl\at explo- sion would represent. It’s not sim- ply the amount of energy; it’s the frightful concentration of intensity in a minute volume.
> “The surrounding matter, un- able to maintain a self-supportin.."
> atomic explosion normally, might be hyper-stimulated to atomic ex- plosion under U-235’s forces and, in the immediate neighborhood, re- lease its energy, too.
> That is, the explosion would not involve only one pound of U-23S, but also five or fifty or five thousand tons of other matter. The extent of the explosion is a matter of conjec- ture.”
> “Get to the point,” she said im- patiently.
> “Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
> It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
> utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
> explosion. And I mean every- thing.
> “So they haven’t experimented. They could end the war overnight with controlled U-235 bombs. They could end this cycle of civili- zation with one or
> two uncontroUed bombs. And they don’t know which they’d have if they made ’em. So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explo- sion of U-235."
>
> https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
>
> https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
>
> https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Another... Einstein Lied Again
> >
> > is how Albert Einstein talks about a stranger in this letter..
> >
> > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> >
> > "In view of the situation you may think it desirable to have more
> >
> > permanent contact maintained between the Administration and the group
> >
> > of physicists working on chain reactions in America."
> >
> > (between the Administration and the group
> >
> > of physicists)
> >
> > "One possible way
> >
> > of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person
> >
> > who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> >
> > capacity."
> >
> > ("a person...in an inofficial capacity.")
> >
> > "His task might comprise the following:"
> >
> > (now i know it's a guy!)
> >
> > "to approach Government Departments,"
> > "keep them informed of the further development"
> > "put forward recommendations for Government action"
> > "giving particular attention securing a supply of uranium..."
> > "to speed up the experimental work"
> > "providing funds"
> > "through his contacts with private persons"
> > "obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories"
> >
> > Who is this masked man????
> >
> > Albert Einstein is pretending he doesn't have a person in mind.
> >
> > "inofficial capacity."????? wat does that mean (besides no suchs word)
> >
> > Meaning: Somebody not connected to your government but connected to US.
> >
> > Who else...Leo Szilard.
> >
> > Notice how Albert Einstein 'worded' the letter not to give any
> > indication of who that person might be with words like:
> >
> > "a person who has your confidence"
> >
> > but then Albert Einstein takes away that thought with:
> >
> > "and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> >
> > capacity."
> >
> > So, who can that possibly be, a person who has the President of the United States confidence but
> > is NOT official, not authorized or acknowledged by the United States Government.
> >
> > Einstein Lied Again.
> >
> > Only Einstein can lie like that.
> >
> > oh, did you see the draft?
> >
> > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1
> >
> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGXjsNVkAEhrh0?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > furthermore, what about a) and b)?
> > >
> > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > >
> > > a) "...securing a supply of uranium..."
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > b) b) *to speed up the experimental work*, ..
> > >
> > > 'which is at present'
> > >
> > > being carried on
> > >
> > > within the University laboratories.
> > >
> > > Get the Uranium and speed up the experiment.
> > >
> > > What was Albert Einstein doing? Already building an atomic bomb BEFORE notifying
> > > the United States President????
> > >
> > > b) *to speed up the experimental
> > >
> > > His own little private manhattan project?
> > >
> > > Certaintly not to kill Germans...it was just 'an experiment', to just...test this theory.
> > >
> > > In other words, Albert Einstein HOODWINKED the entire planet into thinking
> > > the atomic bomb was to protect the world, when in fact...it was just
> > > an experiment', to just...test his 1905 theory.
> > >
> > > http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1946/1101460701_400.jpg
> > >
> > > He lied to everbody. Had everybody beliving it...even everyone in the scientific community.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Biggest problem they had at the Manhattan Project was...
> > > >
> > > > How do you blow up that atomic bomb without getting killed during a
> > > > test?
> > > >
> > > > Same problem you had when you lit a firecracker or cherry bomb..
> > > > short fuse...you had to throw it away fact before it explodes in your
> > > > hand!
> > > >
> > > > Of course, there is only one person that was an Expert in Denotation
> > > > of bombs in those days...Albert Einstein.
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein lifted his finger and wrote: According to the
> > > > suggestion you expressed in your letter I am giving you here reasons
> > > > for my opinion concerning the best localization for initiation of the
> > > > Torpedo explosion...
> > > >
> > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1455974257809260546
> > > >
> > > > Page 1
> > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSoXXFUUAApz8f?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > Page 2
> > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSojvRVQAAjcLq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > >
> > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 11:32:05 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Shouldn't have Albert Einstein have gotten The Nobel Peace Prize for The Atomic Bomb?
> > > > >
> > > > >I mean, 'it' got Japan to surrender.
> > > > >
> > > > >The fact is, Albert Einstein is The Godfather of the Atomic Bomb, ...isn't that Right????
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2021 18:17:32 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >In article <610DDBC4.431@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > > >> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> Of course I know that...he dictated the letter to his secretary..(dats wat
> > > > >> >> they did in those
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Still wrong.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So, Albert Einstein is groping his secretary..
> > > > >> rubbing her butt and putting his hand up her blouse..
> > > > >> and he tells her..
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Did you finish typing that letter for me, honey?"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> She sez "Here it is, you pervert!"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> He looks at it...(then does a spell check)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Understandably, she misspelled Dr. Zsilard's name a few times.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> He tells her "You wrote Zillard, but there is only one L, and it
> > > > >> begins with a S and small z, ..."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/1
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So she buttons up her blouse and retypes the letter...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/2
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Then he tells her..."BEND OVER YOU FUCKING RUSSIAN BITCH!"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> She tells him..."You're the bomb!"
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > >> the unchallengeable.
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.


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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 03:55 UTC

Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:32:43 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
>
> But not a single one, from 1910 to 1965 (classic scify books were written in that period) dared to mess with any relativity.

wat about:

“Time for the Stars”, (1956) by Robert Heinlein is the classic two 18
year old twins separated when one goes on an interstellar voyage and
returns about 70 years later having aged a personal 2 or 3 years story?

>
> They were very imaginative, but they were not crazy: gravitational waves, distorted space and time, no faster than c, .......
>
> That would have put narrative boundaries in the unphysical "cage" that the fucker created while hallucinated.
>
> Shitty histories start early in the '70s: blackholes, wormholes, multiverse, etc.
>
> How many times did you see a movie "explaining" wormholes by using a folded page and a pencil making a hole through both sides?
>
> Or personal "proper time" much slower than the others, so that person is invisible to humans (I wonder why never is depicted as a statue).
>
> Fuck Al and heirs. They killed storylines, so we have to deal with Alien, Predator, Transformers,.... What a SOB!

--
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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 04:07 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:32:43 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
> >
> > But not a single one, from 1910 to 1965 (classic scify books were written in that period) dared to mess with any relativity.
>
> wat about:
>
> “Time for the Stars”, (1956) by Robert Heinlein is the classic two 18
> year old twins separated when one goes on an interstellar voyage and
> returns about 70 years later having aged a personal 2 or 3 years story?

and of course ...astounding science fiction march 1944 based on Albert Einstein atomic bomb from Relativity 1905.

>
> >
> > They were very imaginative, but they were not crazy: gravitational waves, distorted space and time, no faster than c, .......
> >
> > That would have put narrative boundaries in the unphysical "cage" that the fucker created while hallucinated.
> >
> > Shitty histories start early in the '70s: blackholes, wormholes, multiverse, etc.
> >
> > How many times did you see a movie "explaining" wormholes by using a folded page and a pencil making a hole through both sides?
> >
> > Or personal "proper time" much slower than the others, so that person is invisible to humans (I wonder why never is depicted as a statue).
> >
> > Fuck Al and heirs. They killed storylines, so we have to deal with Alien, Predator, Transformers,.... What a SOB!
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 05:59 UTC

Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 12:54:33 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:32:43 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
> > >
> > > But not a single one, from 1910 to 1965 (classic scify books were written in that period) dared to mess with any relativity.
> > wat about:
> >
> > “Time for the Stars”, (1956) by Robert Heinlein is the classic two 18
> > year old twins separated when one goes on an interstellar voyage and
> > returns about 70 years later having aged a personal 2 or 3 years story?
> > >
> > > They were very imaginative, but they were not crazy: gravitational waves, distorted space and time, no faster than c, .......
> > >
> > > That would have put narrative boundaries in the unphysical "cage" that the fucker created while hallucinated.
> > >
> > > Shitty histories start early in the '70s: blackholes, wormholes, multiverse, etc.
> > >
> > > How many times did you see a movie "explaining" wormholes by using a folded page and a pencil making a hole through both sides?
> > >
> > > Or personal "proper time" much slower than the others, so that person is invisible to humans (I wonder why never is depicted as a statue).
> > >
> > > Fuck Al and heirs. They killed storylines, so we have to deal with Alien, Predator, Transformers,.... What a SOB!
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> Never heard of it. I'll try to find it at several online repositories.
>
> Anyway, I was talking about famous books written in the golden age of scify.

You didn't say "famous books", so you cannot raise the bar after the fact...

Pierre Boulle’s 1963 novel La Planète des Singes, via its Hollywood movie adaptation, arguably remains the most famous illustration of relativity in sci-fi.

> Now, ideas for a baseline of narratives are scarce,
> and popular books, films and TV series are blending scify+fantasy+terror+action+CGI+gender agenda+....
>
> I have to stop. I have to see a re-run of Grimm.

--
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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:14 UTC

The Parallel 1963
Written by: Rod Serling

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 12:54:33 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:32:43 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > > Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
> > > >
> > > > But not a single one, from 1910 to 1965 (classic scify books were written in that period) dared to mess with any relativity.
> > > wat about:
> > >
> > > “Time for the Stars”, (1956) by Robert Heinlein is the classic two 18
> > > year old twins separated when one goes on an interstellar voyage and
> > > returns about 70 years later having aged a personal 2 or 3 years story?
> > > >
> > > > They were very imaginative, but they were not crazy: gravitational waves, distorted space and time, no faster than c, .......
> > > >
> > > > That would have put narrative boundaries in the unphysical "cage" that the fucker created while hallucinated.
> > > >
> > > > Shitty histories start early in the '70s: blackholes, wormholes, multiverse, etc.
> > > >
> > > > How many times did you see a movie "explaining" wormholes by using a folded page and a pencil making a hole through both sides?
> > > >
> > > > Or personal "proper time" much slower than the others, so that person is invisible to humans (I wonder why never is depicted as a statue).
> > > >
> > > > Fuck Al and heirs. They killed storylines, so we have to deal with Alien, Predator, Transformers,.... What a SOB!
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > Never heard of it. I'll try to find it at several online repositories.
> >
> > Anyway, I was talking about famous books written in the golden age of scify.
>
> You didn't say "famous books", so you cannot raise the bar after the fact...
>
> Pierre Boulle’s 1963 novel La Planète des Singes, via its Hollywood movie adaptation, arguably remains the most famous illustration of relativity in sci-fi.
>
> > Now, ideas for a baseline of narratives are scarce,
> > and popular books, films and TV series are blending scify+fantasy+terror+action+CGI+gender agenda+....
> >
> > I have to stop. I have to see a re-run of Grimm.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 06:24 UTC

Original title: La Planète des singes
Publication date: 1963

In inglish Planet of the Apes

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Parallel 1963
> Written by: Rod Serling
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 12:54:33 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:32:43 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
> > > > >
> > > > > But not a single one, from 1910 to 1965 (classic scify books were written in that period) dared to mess with any relativity.
> > > > wat about:
> > > >
> > > > “Time for the Stars”, (1956) by Robert Heinlein is the classic two 18
> > > > year old twins separated when one goes on an interstellar voyage and
> > > > returns about 70 years later having aged a personal 2 or 3 years story?
> > > > >
> > > > > They were very imaginative, but they were not crazy: gravitational waves, distorted space and time, no faster than c, .......
> > > > >
> > > > > That would have put narrative boundaries in the unphysical "cage" that the fucker created while hallucinated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shitty histories start early in the '70s: blackholes, wormholes, multiverse, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > How many times did you see a movie "explaining" wormholes by using a folded page and a pencil making a hole through both sides?
> > > > >
> > > > > Or personal "proper time" much slower than the others, so that person is invisible to humans (I wonder why never is depicted as a statue).
> > > > >
> > > > > Fuck Al and heirs. They killed storylines, so we have to deal with Alien, Predator, Transformers,.... What a SOB!
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > Never heard of it. I'll try to find it at several online repositories.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I was talking about famous books written in the golden age of scify.
> >
> > You didn't say "famous books", so you cannot raise the bar after the fact...
> >
> > Pierre Boulle’s 1963 novel La Planète des Singes, via its Hollywood movie adaptation, arguably remains the most famous illustration of relativity in sci-fi.
> >
> > > Now, ideas for a baseline of narratives are scarce,
> > > and popular books, films and TV series are blending scify+fantasy+terror+action+CGI+gender agenda+....
> > >
> > > I have to stop. I have to see a re-run of Grimm.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 18 Nov 2021 19:11 UTC

I should add that when astounding science fiction published it in march 1944...
the FBI told them to stop talking about atomic bombs.

Albert Einstein and all his science friends were investigated, arrested, or sent to the electric chair
for being...Communist, and passing atomic secrets.

So, it was a time to stay away from communist scientist.

What writer wants to be associated with 'these people' in those days?

Hollywood writers were not allowed to use the word "Mafia". (they used outfit or organization)

Even Albert Einstein friends didn't want to be near him...

dis guy was a hot potato.

Confess you are a communist or go to the electric chair.

wats it going to be?

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Original title: La Planète des singes
> Publication date: 1963
>
> In inglish Planet of the Apes
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Parallel 1963
> > Written by: Rod Serling
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 12:54:33 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 7:32:43 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But not a single one, from 1910 to 1965 (classic scify books were written in that period) dared to mess with any relativity.
> > > > > wat about:
> > > > >
> > > > > “Time for the Stars”, (1956) by Robert Heinlein is the classic two 18
> > > > > year old twins separated when one goes on an interstellar voyage and
> > > > > returns about 70 years later having aged a personal 2 or 3 years story?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They were very imaginative, but they were not crazy: gravitational waves, distorted space and time, no faster than c, .......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That would have put narrative boundaries in the unphysical "cage" that the fucker created while hallucinated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shitty histories start early in the '70s: blackholes, wormholes, multiverse, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How many times did you see a movie "explaining" wormholes by using a folded page and a pencil making a hole through both sides?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or personal "proper time" much slower than the others, so that person is invisible to humans (I wonder why never is depicted as a statue).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fuck Al and heirs. They killed storylines, so we have to deal with Alien, Predator, Transformers,.... What a SOB!
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > and challenge
> > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > Never heard of it. I'll try to find it at several online repositories.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I was talking about famous books written in the golden age of scify.
> > >
> > > You didn't say "famous books", so you cannot raise the bar after the fact...
> > >
> > > Pierre Boulle’s 1963 novel La Planète des Singes, via its Hollywood movie adaptation, arguably remains the most famous illustration of relativity in sci-fi.
> > >
> > > > Now, ideas for a baseline of narratives are scarce,
> > > > and popular books, films and TV series are blending scify+fantasy+terror+action+CGI+gender agenda+....
> > > >
> > > > I have to stop. I have to see a re-run of Grimm.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

--
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On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 11:07:00 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:

[snip]

> and of course ...astounding science fiction march 1944 based on Albert Einstein atomic bomb from Relativity 1905.

Well-known to fen, of course.

https://www.nyrsf.com/2017/06/steve-carper-beyond-deadline-three-additional-wwii-atomic-war-stories-and-the-office-of-censorship.html

"The Battle of the Atoms" was delayed six months in SUPERMAN, and the OWI even
looked into the Man of Tomorrow's newspaper strip.

https://www.cbr.com/superman-atomic-bomb-censored-united-states-government/

I read the "The Battle of the Atoms" when it was reprinted in the summer of 1971.

https://www.comics.org/issue/24554/cover/4/ - SUPERMAN 243 (Vol 1)

Others may have grumbled when DC-National added reprint pages and raised the price
by 2/3rds, but I enjoyed the "golden oldies." I had never had the chance to read.

--
Kevin R

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 by: The Starmaker - Fri, 19 Nov 2021 00:28 UTC

On June 28, 1943, Bryon Price, director of the United States Office of Censorship (OoC) and former executive news editor of the Associated Press, sent out a
confidential note to 2,000 daily newspapers and 11,000 weeklies as well as all radio stations in the U.S. The note requested that editors prevent any articles or broadcasts from mentioning:

Production or utilization of atom smashing, atomic energy, atomic fission, atomic splitting, or any of their equivalents.

The use for military purposes of radium or radioactive materials, heavy water, high voltage discharge equipment, cyclotrons.

The following elements or any of their compounds: polonium, uranium, ytterbium, hafnium, protactinium, radium, rhenium, thorium, deuterium.

Kevrob wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 11:07:00 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > and of course ...astounding science fiction march 1944 based on Albert Einstein atomic bomb from Relativity 1905.
>
> Well-known to fen, of course.
>
> https://www.nyrsf.com/2017/06/steve-carper-beyond-deadline-three-additional-wwii-atomic-war-stories-and-the-office-of-censorship.html
>
> "The Battle of the Atoms" was delayed six months in SUPERMAN, and the OWI even
> looked into the Man of Tomorrow's newspaper strip.
>
> https://www.cbr.com/superman-atomic-bomb-censored-united-states-government/
>
> I read the "The Battle of the Atoms" when it was reprinted in the summer of 1971.
>
> https://www.comics.org/issue/24554/cover/4/ - SUPERMAN 243 (Vol 1)
>
> Others may have grumbled when DC-National added reprint pages and raised the price
> by 2/3rds, but I enjoyed the "golden oldies." I had never had the chance to read.
>
> --
> Kevin R
>
>

--
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 7:28:09 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:

Not just a troll. but a top-posting troll!

> On June 28, 1943, Bryon Price, director of the United States Office of Censorship (OoC) and former
> executive news editor of the Associated Press, sent out a confidential note to 2,000 daily newspapers
> and 11,000 weeklies as well as all radio > stations in the U.S. The note requested that editors prevent
> any articles or broadcasts from mentioning:
>
> Production or utilization of atom smashing, atomic energy, atomic fission, atomic splitting, or any of their equivalents.
>
> The use for military purposes of radium or radioactive materials, heavy water, high voltage discharge equipment, cyclotrons.
>
> The following elements or any of their compounds: polonium, uranium, ytterbium, hafnium, protactinium, radium, rhenium,
> thorium, deuterium.

> Kevrob wrote:

[snip]

> > Well-known to fen, of course.
> >
> > https://www.nyrsf.com/2017/06/steve-carper-beyond-deadline-three-additional-wwii-atomic-war-stories-and-the-office-of-censorship.html
--
Kevin R

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 by: The Horny Goat - Fri, 19 Nov 2021 05:15 UTC

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 11:11:23 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>I should add that when astounding science fiction published it in march 1944...
>the FBI told them to stop talking about atomic bombs.
>
>Albert Einstein and all his science friends were investigated, arrested, or sent to the electric chair
>for being...Communist, and passing atomic secrets.
>
>So, it was a time to stay away from communist scientist.
>
>What writer wants to be associated with 'these people' in those days?
>
>Hollywood writers were not allowed to use the word "Mafia". (they used outfit or organization)
>
>Even Albert Einstein friends didn't want to be near him...
>
>
>dis guy was a hot potato.

So who besides the Rosenbergs (who I do not know of any evidence they
ever met Einstein) got the chair?

As for Einstein, the evidence is that FDR took him VERY seriously and
it was only the fact that Einstein's letter arrived at the White House
on 6 Dec 1941 that the Manhattan project took as long as it did to get
going - FDR you understand being somewhat tied up the next 48 hours
after the letter arrived at his desk!

For what it's worth 4 1/2 years later, the evidence is that the
professors at the Physics department at the university in Hiroshima
knew EXACTLY what had hit them almost immediately and were mostly
amazed as they clearly understood the level of engineering skill and
manufacturing ability it would take to actually produce a nuke (and
that they had made a proposal to the Japanese government to that
effect which was deferred as it was not felt it could be built given
Japan's level of heavy industrial capacity during wartime. This was
the view in Britain as well coupled with the fact that the Brits knew
most of the uranium ore for the British nuke would have to come from
Canada. In the event most of Canada's wartime uranium output went to
the Manhattan project)

By late 1941 it was understood that the atomic bomb was at least as
much a manufacturing and engineering challenge more so than one of
physics.

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 by: The Horny Goat - Fri, 19 Nov 2021 20:16 UTC

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 16:28:45 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On June 28, 1943, Bryon Price, director of the United States Office of Censorship (OoC) and former executive news editor of the Associated Press, sent out a
>confidential note to 2,000 daily newspapers and 11,000 weeklies as well as all radio stations in the U.S. The note requested that editors prevent any articles or broadcasts from mentioning:
>
> Production or utilization of atom smashing, atomic energy, atomic fission, atomic splitting, or any of their equivalents.
>
> The use for military purposes of radium or radioactive materials, heavy water, high voltage discharge equipment, cyclotrons.
>
> The following elements or any of their compounds: polonium, uranium, ytterbium, hafnium, protactinium, radium, rhenium, thorium, deuterium.
>>

What's your point? I'm pretty sure everybody reading this knows that
the United States was at war in 1943 and that wartime press censorship
was part of that. I'm equally sure most here know comic books (which
at that time were considered children's literature) were while
definitely part of the press considered much less likely to
inadvertently release sensitive data than the print media. And
therefore were watched less.

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 by: J. Clarke - Fri, 19 Nov 2021 21:20 UTC

On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 12:16:16 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 16:28:45 -0800, The Starmaker
><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>On June 28, 1943, Bryon Price, director of the United States Office of Censorship (OoC) and former executive news editor of the Associated Press, sent out a
>>confidential note to 2,000 daily newspapers and 11,000 weeklies as well as all radio stations in the U.S. The note requested that editors prevent any articles or broadcasts from mentioning:
>>
>> Production or utilization of atom smashing, atomic energy, atomic fission, atomic splitting, or any of their equivalents.
>>
>> The use for military purposes of radium or radioactive materials, heavy water, high voltage discharge equipment, cyclotrons.
>>
>> The following elements or any of their compounds: polonium, uranium, ytterbium, hafnium, protactinium, radium, rhenium, thorium, deuterium.
>>>
>
>What's your point? I'm pretty sure everybody reading this knows that
>the United States was at war in 1943 and that wartime press censorship
>was part of that. I'm equally sure most here know comic books (which
>at that time were considered children's literature) were while
>definitely part of the press considered much less likely to
>inadvertently release sensitive data than the print media. And
>therefore were watched less.

Not very smart though--any journalist worthy of the name who was given
such a list and told not to mention any of it would know that there
was something in the works. Not that it was much of a secret to the
physics community--one of my professors, who had been in grad school
at the time, commented that when they put together the list of noted
physicists who had "disappeared" the obvious conclusion was "atom
bomb".

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On Friday, 19 November 2021 at 21:20:45 UTC, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 12:16:16 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
> wrote:
> >On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 16:28:45 -0800, The Starmaker
> ><star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On June 28, 1943, Bryon Price, director of the United States Office of Censorship (OoC) and former executive news editor of the Associated Press, sent out a
> >>confidential note to 2,000 daily newspapers and 11,000 weeklies as well as all radio stations in the U.S. The note requested that editors prevent any articles or broadcasts from mentioning:
> >>
> >> Production or utilization of atom smashing, atomic energy, atomic fission, atomic splitting, or any of their equivalents.
> >>
> >> The use for military purposes of radium or radioactive materials, heavy water, high voltage discharge equipment, cyclotrons.
> >>
> >> The following elements or any of their compounds: polonium, uranium, ytterbium, hafnium, protactinium, radium, rhenium, thorium, deuterium.
> >>>
> >
> >What's your point? I'm pretty sure everybody reading this knows that
> >the United States was at war in 1943 and that wartime press censorship
> >was part of that. I'm equally sure most here know comic books (which
> >at that time were considered children's literature) were while
> >definitely part of the press considered much less likely to
> >inadvertently release sensitive data than the print media. And
> >therefore were watched less.
> Not very smart though--any journalist worthy of the name who was given
> such a list and told not to mention any of it would know that there
> was something in the works. Not that it was much of a secret to the
> physics community--one of my professors, who had been in grad school
> at the time, commented that when they put together the list of noted
> physicists who had "disappeared" the obvious conclusion was "atom
> bomb".

I recently heard that attributed to Russian scientists
noting the disappearance of prominent Americans
from publishing in the relevant science journals.

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On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 8:20:45 AM UTC+11, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 12:16:16 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
> wrote:

> >What's your point? I'm pretty sure everybody reading this knows that
> >the United States was at war in 1943 and that wartime press censorship
> >was part of that. I'm equally sure most here know comic books (which
> >at that time were considered children's literature) were while
> >definitely part of the press considered much less likely to
> >inadvertently release sensitive data than the print media. And
> >therefore were watched less.
> Not very smart though--any journalist worthy of the name who was given
> such a list and told not to mention any of it would know that there
> was something in the works.

Yeah, but during WWII they weren't going to dig and publish a story on it.

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On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 01:29:29 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:

>On Friday, 19 November 2021 at 21:20:45 UTC, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 12:16:16 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
>> wrote:
>> >On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 16:28:45 -0800, The Starmaker
>> ><star...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On June 28, 1943, Bryon Price, director of the United States Office of Censorship (OoC) and former executive news editor of the Associated Press, sent out a
>> >>confidential note to 2,000 daily newspapers and 11,000 weeklies as well as all radio stations in the U.S. The note requested that editors prevent any articles or broadcasts from mentioning:
>> >>
>> >> Production or utilization of atom smashing, atomic energy, atomic fission, atomic splitting, or any of their equivalents.
>> >>
>> >> The use for military purposes of radium or radioactive materials, heavy water, high voltage discharge equipment, cyclotrons.
>> >>
>> >> The following elements or any of their compounds: polonium, uranium, ytterbium, hafnium, protactinium, radium, rhenium, thorium, deuterium.
>> >>>
>> >
>> >What's your point? I'm pretty sure everybody reading this knows that
>> >the United States was at war in 1943 and that wartime press censorship
>> >was part of that. I'm equally sure most here know comic books (which
>> >at that time were considered children's literature) were while
>> >definitely part of the press considered much less likely to
>> >inadvertently release sensitive data than the print media. And
>> >therefore were watched less.
>> Not very smart though--any journalist worthy of the name who was given
>> such a list and told not to mention any of it would know that there
>> was something in the works. Not that it was much of a secret to the
>> physics community--one of my professors, who had been in grad school
>> at the time, commented that when they put together the list of noted
>> physicists who had "disappeared" the obvious conclusion was "atom
>> bomb".
>
>I recently heard that attributed to Russian scientists
>noting the disappearance of prominent Americans
>from publishing in the relevant science journals.

Yep, if a random grad student could figure it out, I'm pretty sure
Landau could.

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 by: The Starmaker - Sat, 20 Nov 2021 18:54 UTC

As I mentioned before...Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the Russians..
one of his many methods was
passing information to the Russians with...
comic books...

Astounding Science Fiction march 1944 (title: Deadline) has Albert Einstein fingerprints all over it.

As you already know..Albert Einstein biggest lie was that the Germans were building an atomic bomb.

So, he used that narrative in Astounding Science Fiction.

The Title "Deadline"

(build the bomb before the Germans build it) dats the deadline.

Now, the very first paragraph reads:

--
Deadline

by CLEVE CARTMILL

There was a bomb that he wanted to destroy. It was
in an enemy nation’s capital, and might explode at any
moment. And that was precisely what he must prevent!

---

Is this Relativity???

"Time exists only in conscious-
ness,” he said. “There won’t be
any time, unless dust and rocks
are aware of it." --Astounding Science Fiction march 1944 (title: Deadline)

or science fiction?

There's more but it's only for Russians...commies.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> and the last sentence reads: "So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explosion of U-235." - astounding science fiction march 1944
>
> The atomic bomb was dropped on Japan on August 1945...
>
> and this book was published March 1944..
>
> so I guess the comic book were still getting updates from Albert Einstein on it's progess.
>
> dats why Albert Einstein said:
>
> "....starting a chain reaction of a scope great enough to destroy part or all of this planet." - Albert Einstein
>
> "...imagine the earth being destroyed like a nova by a stellar explosion" -Albert Einstein
>
> "Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
> It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
> utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
> explosion. And I mean every- thing." - astounding science fiction march 1944
>
> Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
>
> https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
>
> https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
>
> https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > As I mentioned before..
> >
> > Albert Einstein knew that they were going to drop the bomb on japan
> > months earilier...
> >
> > and Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the russians..
> >
> > one other method I didn't mentioned was
> > passing information to the russians with...
> > comic books...
> >
> > This was published before
> > they dropped the bomb on Japan..
> >
> > "“Now the explosion of a pound of U-235,” he said, “wouldn’t be too unbearably violent, though it re- leases as much energy as a hun- dred million pounds of TNT.
> > Set off on an island, it might lay waste the whole island, uprooting trees, killing all animal life, but even that fifty thousand tons of TNT wouldn’t s
> > eriously disturb the really unimaginable tonnage which even a small island represents.”
> > “I assume,” she broke in, “that you’re going to make a point ? You’re not just giving me a lecture on high explosives?”
> > “Wait. The trouble is, they’re afraid that that explosion of en- ergy would be so incomparably vio- lent, its sheer, minute concentration of unbearable
> > energy so great, that surrounding matter would be set off. If you could imagine concen- trating half a billion of the most violent lightning strokes you ever saw,
> > compressing all their fury into a space less than half the size of a pack of cigarettes — ^you’d get some idea of the concentrated es- sence
> > of hyperviolence tl\at explo- sion would represent. It’s not sim- ply the amount of energy; it’s the frightful concentration of intensity in a minute volume.
> > “The surrounding matter, un- able to maintain a self-supportin.."
> > atomic explosion normally, might be hyper-stimulated to atomic ex- plosion under U-235’s forces and, in the immediate neighborhood, re- lease its energy, too.
> > That is, the explosion would not involve only one pound of U-23S, but also five or fifty or five thousand tons of other matter. The extent of the explosion is a matter of conjec- ture.”
> > “Get to the point,” she said im- patiently.
> > “Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
> > It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
> > utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
> > explosion. And I mean every- thing.
> > “So they haven’t experimented. They could end the war overnight with controlled U-235 bombs. They could end this cycle of civili- zation with one or
> > two uncontroUed bombs. And they don’t know which they’d have if they made ’em. So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explo- sion of U-235."
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Another... Einstein Lied Again
> > >
> > > is how Albert Einstein talks about a stranger in this letter..
> > >
> > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > >
> > > "In view of the situation you may think it desirable to have more
> > >
> > > permanent contact maintained between the Administration and the group
> > >
> > > of physicists working on chain reactions in America."
> > >
> > > (between the Administration and the group
> > >
> > > of physicists)
> > >
> > > "One possible way
> > >
> > > of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person
> > >
> > > who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> > >
> > > capacity."
> > >
> > > ("a person...in an inofficial capacity.")
> > >
> > > "His task might comprise the following:"
> > >
> > > (now i know it's a guy!)
> > >
> > > "to approach Government Departments,"
> > > "keep them informed of the further development"
> > > "put forward recommendations for Government action"
> > > "giving particular attention securing a supply of uranium..."
> > > "to speed up the experimental work"
> > > "providing funds"
> > > "through his contacts with private persons"
> > > "obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories"
> > >
> > > Who is this masked man????
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein is pretending he doesn't have a person in mind.
> > >
> > > "inofficial capacity."????? wat does that mean (besides no suchs word)
> > >
> > > Meaning: Somebody not connected to your government but connected to US.
> > >
> > > Who else...Leo Szilard.
> > >
> > > Notice how Albert Einstein 'worded' the letter not to give any
> > > indication of who that person might be with words like:
> > >
> > > "a person who has your confidence"
> > >
> > > but then Albert Einstein takes away that thought with:
> > >
> > > "and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> > >
> > > capacity."
> > >
> > > So, who can that possibly be, a person who has the President of the United States confidence but
> > > is NOT official, not authorized or acknowledged by the United States Government.
> > >
> > > Einstein Lied Again.
> > >
> > > Only Einstein can lie like that.
> > >
> > > oh, did you see the draft?
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1
> > >
> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGXjsNVkAEhrh0?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > furthermore, what about a) and b)?
> > > >
> > > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > > >
> > > > a) "...securing a supply of uranium..."
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > b) b) *to speed up the experimental work*, ..
> > > >
> > > > 'which is at present'
> > > >
> > > > being carried on
> > > >
> > > > within the University laboratories.
> > > >
> > > > Get the Uranium and speed up the experiment.
> > > >
> > > > What was Albert Einstein doing? Already building an atomic bomb BEFORE notifying
> > > > the United States President????
> > > >
> > > > b) *to speed up the experimental
> > > >
> > > > His own little private manhattan project?
> > > >
> > > > Certaintly not to kill Germans...it was just 'an experiment', to just...test this theory.
> > > >
> > > > In other words, Albert Einstein HOODWINKED the entire planet into thinking
> > > > the atomic bomb was to protect the world, when in fact...it was just
> > > > an experiment', to just...test his 1905 theory.
> > > >
> > > > http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1946/1101460701_400.jpg
> > > >
> > > > He lied to everbody. Had everybody beliving it...even everyone in the scientific community.
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Biggest problem they had at the Manhattan Project was...
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you blow up that atomic bomb without getting killed during a
> > > > > test?
> > > > >
> > > > > Same problem you had when you lit a firecracker or cherry bomb..
> > > > > short fuse...you had to throw it away fact before it explodes in your
> > > > > hand!
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, there is only one person that was an Expert in Denotation
> > > > > of bombs in those days...Albert Einstein.
> > > > >
> > > > > Albert Einstein lifted his finger and wrote: According to the
> > > > > suggestion you expressed in your letter I am giving you here reasons
> > > > > for my opinion concerning the best localization for initiation of the
> > > > > Torpedo explosion...
> > > > >
> > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1455974257809260546
> > > > >
> > > > > Page 1
> > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSoXXFUUAApz8f?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > > Page 2
> > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSojvRVQAAjcLq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > >
> > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 11:32:05 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Shouldn't have Albert Einstein have gotten The Nobel Peace Prize for The Atomic Bomb?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I mean, 'it' got Japan to surrender.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The fact is, Albert Einstein is The Godfather of the Atomic Bomb, ...isn't that Right????
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2021 18:17:32 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >In article <610DDBC4.431@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > > > >> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >> Of course I know that...he dictated the letter to his secretary..(dats wat
> > > > > >> >> they did in those
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Still wrong.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> So, Albert Einstein is groping his secretary..
> > > > > >> rubbing her butt and putting his hand up her blouse..
> > > > > >> and he tells her..
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> "Did you finish typing that letter for me, honey?"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> She sez "Here it is, you pervert!"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> He looks at it...(then does a spell check)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Understandably, she misspelled Dr. Zsilard's name a few times.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> He tells her "You wrote Zillard, but there is only one L, and it
> > > > > >> begins with a S and small z, ..."
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/1
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> So she buttons up her blouse and retypes the letter...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/2
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Then he tells her..."BEND OVER YOU FUCKING RUSSIAN BITCH!"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> She tells him..."You're the bomb!"
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > >> the unchallengeable.
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.


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 by: The Starmaker - Sun, 21 Nov 2021 19:37 UTC

So, the writter of Astounding Science Fiction March 1944 (title: Deadline) story, by CLEVE CARTMILL, he
was approached by the FBI...

and they asked him..."Where did you get your ideas from?"

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> As I mentioned before...Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the Russians..
> one of his many methods was
> passing information to the Russians with...
> comic books...
>
> Astounding Science Fiction march 1944 (title: Deadline) has Albert Einstein fingerprints all over it.
>
> As you already know..Albert Einstein biggest lie was that the Germans were building an atomic bomb.
>
> So, he used that narrative in Astounding Science Fiction.
>
> The Title "Deadline"
>
> (build the bomb before the Germans build it) dats the deadline.
>
> Now, the very first paragraph reads:
>
> --
> Deadline
>
> by CLEVE CARTMILL
>
> There was a bomb that he wanted to destroy. It was
> in an enemy nation’s capital, and might explode at any
> moment. And that was precisely what he must prevent!
>
> ---
>
> Is this Relativity???
>
> "Time exists only in conscious-
> ness,” he said. “There won’t be
> any time, unless dust and rocks
> are aware of it." --Astounding Science Fiction march 1944 (title: Deadline)
>
> or science fiction?
>
> There's more but it's only for Russians...commies.
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > and the last sentence reads: "So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explosion of U-235." - astounding science fiction march 1944
> >
> > The atomic bomb was dropped on Japan on August 1945...
> >
> > and this book was published March 1944..
> >
> > so I guess the comic book were still getting updates from Albert Einstein on it's progess.
> >
> > dats why Albert Einstein said:
> >
> > "....starting a chain reaction of a scope great enough to destroy part or all of this planet." - Albert Einstein
> >
> > "...imagine the earth being destroyed like a nova by a stellar explosion" -Albert Einstein
> >
> > "Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
> > It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
> > utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
> > explosion. And I mean every- thing." - astounding science fiction march 1944
> >
> > Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > As I mentioned before..
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein knew that they were going to drop the bomb on japan
> > > months earilier...
> > >
> > > and Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the russians..
> > >
> > > one other method I didn't mentioned was
> > > passing information to the russians with...
> > > comic books...
> > >
> > > This was published before
> > > they dropped the bomb on Japan..
> > >
> > > "“Now the explosion of a pound of U-235,” he said, “wouldn’t be too unbearably violent, though it re- leases as much energy as a hun- dred million pounds of TNT.
> > > Set off on an island, it might lay waste the whole island, uprooting trees, killing all animal life, but even that fifty thousand tons of TNT wouldn’t s
> > > eriously disturb the really unimaginable tonnage which even a small island represents.”
> > > “I assume,” she broke in, “that you’re going to make a point ? You’re not just giving me a lecture on high explosives?”
> > > “Wait. The trouble is, they’re afraid that that explosion of en- ergy would be so incomparably vio- lent, its sheer, minute concentration of unbearable
> > > energy so great, that surrounding matter would be set off. If you could imagine concen- trating half a billion of the most violent lightning strokes you ever saw,
> > > compressing all their fury into a space less than half the size of a pack of cigarettes — ^you’d get some idea of the concentrated es- sence
> > > of hyperviolence tl\at explo- sion would represent. It’s not sim- ply the amount of energy; it’s the frightful concentration of intensity in a minute volume.
> > > “The surrounding matter, un- able to maintain a self-supportin.."
> > > atomic explosion normally, might be hyper-stimulated to atomic ex- plosion under U-235’s forces and, in the immediate neighborhood, re- lease its energy, too.
> > > That is, the explosion would not involve only one pound of U-23S, but also five or fifty or five thousand tons of other matter. The extent of the explosion is a matter of conjec- ture.”
> > > “Get to the point,” she said im- patiently.
> > > “Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
> > > It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
> > > utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
> > > explosion. And I mean every- thing.
> > > “So they haven’t experimented. They could end the war overnight with controlled U-235 bombs. They could end this cycle of civili- zation with one or
> > > two uncontroUed bombs. And they don’t know which they’d have if they made ’em. So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explo- sion of U-235."
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Another... Einstein Lied Again
> > > >
> > > > is how Albert Einstein talks about a stranger in this letter..
> > > >
> > > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > > >
> > > > "In view of the situation you may think it desirable to have more
> > > >
> > > > permanent contact maintained between the Administration and the group
> > > >
> > > > of physicists working on chain reactions in America."
> > > >
> > > > (between the Administration and the group
> > > >
> > > > of physicists)
> > > >
> > > > "One possible way
> > > >
> > > > of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person
> > > >
> > > > who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> > > >
> > > > capacity."
> > > >
> > > > ("a person...in an inofficial capacity.")
> > > >
> > > > "His task might comprise the following:"
> > > >
> > > > (now i know it's a guy!)
> > > >
> > > > "to approach Government Departments,"
> > > > "keep them informed of the further development"
> > > > "put forward recommendations for Government action"
> > > > "giving particular attention securing a supply of uranium..."
> > > > "to speed up the experimental work"
> > > > "providing funds"
> > > > "through his contacts with private persons"
> > > > "obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories"
> > > >
> > > > Who is this masked man????
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein is pretending he doesn't have a person in mind.
> > > >
> > > > "inofficial capacity."????? wat does that mean (besides no suchs word)
> > > >
> > > > Meaning: Somebody not connected to your government but connected to US.
> > > >
> > > > Who else...Leo Szilard.
> > > >
> > > > Notice how Albert Einstein 'worded' the letter not to give any
> > > > indication of who that person might be with words like:
> > > >
> > > > "a person who has your confidence"
> > > >
> > > > but then Albert Einstein takes away that thought with:
> > > >
> > > > "and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> > > >
> > > > capacity."
> > > >
> > > > So, who can that possibly be, a person who has the President of the United States confidence but
> > > > is NOT official, not authorized or acknowledged by the United States Government.
> > > >
> > > > Einstein Lied Again.
> > > >
> > > > Only Einstein can lie like that.
> > > >
> > > > oh, did you see the draft?
> > > >
> > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1
> > > >
> > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGXjsNVkAEhrh0?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > furthermore, what about a) and b)?
> > > > >
> > > > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > > > >
> > > > > a) "...securing a supply of uranium..."
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > b) b) *to speed up the experimental work*, ..
> > > > >
> > > > > 'which is at present'
> > > > >
> > > > > being carried on
> > > > >
> > > > > within the University laboratories.
> > > > >
> > > > > Get the Uranium and speed up the experiment.
> > > > >
> > > > > What was Albert Einstein doing? Already building an atomic bomb BEFORE notifying
> > > > > the United States President????
> > > > >
> > > > > b) *to speed up the experimental
> > > > >
> > > > > His own little private manhattan project?
> > > > >
> > > > > Certaintly not to kill Germans...it was just 'an experiment', to just...test this theory.
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words, Albert Einstein HOODWINKED the entire planet into thinking
> > > > > the atomic bomb was to protect the world, when in fact...it was just
> > > > > an experiment', to just...test his 1905 theory.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1946/1101460701_400.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > He lied to everbody. Had everybody beliving it...even everyone in the scientific community.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Biggest problem they had at the Manhattan Project was...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do you blow up that atomic bomb without getting killed during a
> > > > > > test?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Same problem you had when you lit a firecracker or cherry bomb..
> > > > > > short fuse...you had to throw it away fact before it explodes in your
> > > > > > hand!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course, there is only one person that was an Expert in Denotation
> > > > > > of bombs in those days...Albert Einstein.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Albert Einstein lifted his finger and wrote: According to the
> > > > > > suggestion you expressed in your letter I am giving you here reasons
> > > > > > for my opinion concerning the best localization for initiation of the
> > > > > > Torpedo explosion...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1455974257809260546
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Page 1
> > > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSoXXFUUAApz8f?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > > > Page 2
> > > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSojvRVQAAjcLq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 11:32:05 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Shouldn't have Albert Einstein have gotten The Nobel Peace Prize for The Atomic Bomb?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I mean, 'it' got Japan to surrender.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >The fact is, Albert Einstein is The Godfather of the Atomic Bomb, ...isn't that Right????
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2021 18:17:32 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >In article <610DDBC4.431@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > > > > >> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >> Of course I know that...he dictated the letter to his secretary..(dats wat
> > > > > > >> >> they did in those
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >Still wrong.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> So, Albert Einstein is groping his secretary..
> > > > > > >> rubbing her butt and putting his hand up her blouse..
> > > > > > >> and he tells her..
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> "Did you finish typing that letter for me, honey?"
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> She sez "Here it is, you pervert!"
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> He looks at it...(then does a spell check)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Understandably, she misspelled Dr. Zsilard's name a few times.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> He tells her "You wrote Zillard, but there is only one L, and it
> > > > > > >> begins with a S and small z, ..."
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/1
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> So she buttons up her blouse and retypes the letter...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/2
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Then he tells her..."BEND OVER YOU FUCKING RUSSIAN BITCH!"
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> She tells him..."You're the bomb!"
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > > >> the unchallengeable.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.


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 by: The Starmaker - Sun, 21 Nov 2021 21:24 UTC

For Master spy Albert Einstein,

Astounding Science Fiction magazine was the perfect
vehicle to pass atomic secrets to the Russians.
(passing information without making face to face contact)

So, even before Astounding Science Fiction March 1944 ...

"Someone in the United States government had realized the terrific potentialities of uranium 235 quite early and, as
far back as the summer of 1940, had rounded up every atomic research man in the country and had sworn them to silence." --Astounding Science Fiction May 1941

https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v27n03_1941-05/page/n57/mode/2up

and there's more there!

When the FBI comes to you and ask you "Where do you get your ideas?"

you give them a name.

"We were searching, there in the
laboratory in Maryland, for a way
to use U235 in a controlled explo-
sion. We had a vision of a one-ton
bomb that would be a whole air raid
in itself, a single explosion that
would flatten out an entire industrial
center....

The problem was, strangely
enough, to find an explosive which
would be weak enough to blow up
only one county at a time, and stable
enough to blow up only on request.
If we could devise a really practical
rocket fuel at the same time, one
capable of driving a war rocket at a
thousand miles an hour, or more,
then we would be in a position to
make most anybody say “uncle” to
Uncle Sam. --Astounding Science Fiction May 1941

When the FBI comes to you and ask you "Where do you get your ideas?"

you give them a name. Whose name would you give?

Or whose name you think they gave????

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> So, the writter of Astounding Science Fiction March 1944 (title: Deadline) story, by CLEVE CARTMILL, he
> was approached by the FBI...
>
> and they asked him..."Where did you get your ideas from?"
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > As I mentioned before...Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the Russians..
> > one of his many methods was
> > passing information to the Russians with...
> > comic books...
> >
> > Astounding Science Fiction march 1944 (title: Deadline) has Albert Einstein fingerprints all over it.
> >
> > As you already know..Albert Einstein biggest lie was that the Germans were building an atomic bomb.
> >
> > So, he used that narrative in Astounding Science Fiction.
> >
> > The Title "Deadline"
> >
> > (build the bomb before the Germans build it) dats the deadline.
> >
> > Now, the very first paragraph reads:
> >
> > --
> > Deadline
> >
> > by CLEVE CARTMILL
> >
> > There was a bomb that he wanted to destroy. It was
> > in an enemy nation’s capital, and might explode at any
> > moment. And that was precisely what he must prevent!
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Is this Relativity???
> >
> > "Time exists only in conscious-
> > ness,” he said. “There won’t be
> > any time, unless dust and rocks
> > are aware of it." --Astounding Science Fiction march 1944 (title: Deadline)
> >
> > or science fiction?
> >
> > There's more but it's only for Russians...commies.
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > and the last sentence reads: "So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explosion of U-235." - astounding science fiction march 1944
> > >
> > > The atomic bomb was dropped on Japan on August 1945...
> > >
> > > and this book was published March 1944..
> > >
> > > so I guess the comic book were still getting updates from Albert Einstein on it's progess.
> > >
> > > dats why Albert Einstein said:
> > >
> > > "....starting a chain reaction of a scope great enough to destroy part or all of this planet." - Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > "...imagine the earth being destroyed like a nova by a stellar explosion" -Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > "Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
> > > It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
> > > utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
> > > explosion. And I mean every- thing." - astounding science fiction march 1944
> > >
> > > Just a note: Science fiction writers in those days get their information from...scientists. (ask H.G.Wells)
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
> > >
> > > https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As I mentioned before..
> > > >
> > > > Albert Einstein knew that they were going to drop the bomb on japan
> > > > months earilier...
> > > >
> > > > and Albert Einstein was the master spy passing atomic secrets to the russians..
> > > >
> > > > one other method I didn't mentioned was
> > > > passing information to the russians with...
> > > > comic books...
> > > >
> > > > This was published before
> > > > they dropped the bomb on Japan..
> > > >
> > > > "“Now the explosion of a pound of U-235,” he said, “wouldn’t be too unbearably violent, though it re- leases as much energy as a hun- dred million pounds of TNT.
> > > > Set off on an island, it might lay waste the whole island, uprooting trees, killing all animal life, but even that fifty thousand tons of TNT wouldn’t s
> > > > eriously disturb the really unimaginable tonnage which even a small island represents.”
> > > > “I assume,” she broke in, “that you’re going to make a point ? You’re not just giving me a lecture on high explosives?”
> > > > “Wait. The trouble is, they’re afraid that that explosion of en- ergy would be so incomparably vio- lent, its sheer, minute concentration of unbearable
> > > > energy so great, that surrounding matter would be set off. If you could imagine concen- trating half a billion of the most violent lightning strokes you ever saw,
> > > > compressing all their fury into a space less than half the size of a pack of cigarettes — ^you’d get some idea of the concentrated es- sence
> > > > of hyperviolence tl\at explo- sion would represent. It’s not sim- ply the amount of energy; it’s the frightful concentration of intensity in a minute volume.
> > > > “The surrounding matter, un- able to maintain a self-supportin.."
> > > > atomic explosion normally, might be hyper-stimulated to atomic ex- plosion under U-235’s forces and, in the immediate neighborhood, re- lease its energy, too.
> > > > That is, the explosion would not involve only one pound of U-23S, but also five or fifty or five thousand tons of other matter. The extent of the explosion is a matter of conjec- ture.”
> > > > “Get to the point,” she said im- patiently.
> > > > “Wait. Let me give you the main picture. Such an explosion would be serious. It would blow an island, or a hunk of continent, right off the planet.
> > > > It would shake Cathor from pole to pole, cause earthquakes violent enough to do serious damage on the other side of the planet, and
> > > > utterly destroy everything within at least one thousand miles of the site of the
> > > > explosion. And I mean every- thing.
> > > > “So they haven’t experimented. They could end the war overnight with controlled U-235 bombs. They could end this cycle of civili- zation with one or
> > > > two uncontroUed bombs. And they don’t know which they’d have if they made ’em. So far, they haven’t worked out any way to control the explo- sion of U-235."
> > > >
> > > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n163/mode/2up
> > > >
> > > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/page/n153/mode/2up
> > > >
> > > > https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v33n01_1944-03_dtsg0318-LennyS/mode/2up
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=U-235+separation
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Another... Einstein Lied Again
> > > > >
> > > > > is how Albert Einstein talks about a stranger in this letter..
> > > > >
> > > > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > > > >
> > > > > "In view of the situation you may think it desirable to have more
> > > > >
> > > > > permanent contact maintained between the Administration and the group
> > > > >
> > > > > of physicists working on chain reactions in America."
> > > > >
> > > > > (between the Administration and the group
> > > > >
> > > > > of physicists)
> > > > >
> > > > > "One possible way
> > > > >
> > > > > of achieving this might be for you to entrust with this task a person
> > > > >
> > > > > who has your confidence and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> > > > >
> > > > > capacity."
> > > > >
> > > > > ("a person...in an inofficial capacity.")
> > > > >
> > > > > "His task might comprise the following:"
> > > > >
> > > > > (now i know it's a guy!)
> > > > >
> > > > > "to approach Government Departments,"
> > > > > "keep them informed of the further development"
> > > > > "put forward recommendations for Government action"
> > > > > "giving particular attention securing a supply of uranium..."
> > > > > "to speed up the experimental work"
> > > > > "providing funds"
> > > > > "through his contacts with private persons"
> > > > > "obtaining the co-operation of industrial laboratories"
> > > > >
> > > > > Who is this masked man????
> > > > >
> > > > > Albert Einstein is pretending he doesn't have a person in mind.
> > > > >
> > > > > "inofficial capacity."????? wat does that mean (besides no suchs word)
> > > > >
> > > > > Meaning: Somebody not connected to your government but connected to US.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who else...Leo Szilard.
> > > > >
> > > > > Notice how Albert Einstein 'worded' the letter not to give any
> > > > > indication of who that person might be with words like:
> > > > >
> > > > > "a person who has your confidence"
> > > > >
> > > > > but then Albert Einstein takes away that thought with:
> > > > >
> > > > > "and who could perhaps serve in an inofficial
> > > > >
> > > > > capacity."
> > > > >
> > > > > So, who can that possibly be, a person who has the President of the United States confidence but
> > > > > is NOT official, not authorized or acknowledged by the United States Government.
> > > > >
> > > > > Einstein Lied Again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only Einstein can lie like that.
> > > > >
> > > > > oh, did you see the draft?
> > > > >
> > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1459615686255251456/photo/1
> > > > >
> > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEGXjsNVkAEhrh0?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > furthermore, what about a) and b)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a) "...securing a supply of uranium..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > b) b) *to speed up the experimental work*, ..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'which is at present'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > being carried on
> > > > > >
> > > > > > within the University laboratories.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Get the Uranium and speed up the experiment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What was Albert Einstein doing? Already building an atomic bomb BEFORE notifying
> > > > > > the United States President????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > b) *to speed up the experimental
> > > > > >
> > > > > > His own little private manhattan project?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Certaintly not to kill Germans...it was just 'an experiment', to just...test this theory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In other words, Albert Einstein HOODWINKED the entire planet into thinking
> > > > > > the atomic bomb was to protect the world, when in fact...it was just
> > > > > > an experiment', to just...test his 1905 theory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1946/1101460701_400.jpg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He lied to everbody. Had everybody beliving it...even everyone in the scientific community.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Biggest problem they had at the Manhattan Project was...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you blow up that atomic bomb without getting killed during a
> > > > > > > test?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Same problem you had when you lit a firecracker or cherry bomb..
> > > > > > > short fuse...you had to throw it away fact before it explodes in your
> > > > > > > hand!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Of course, there is only one person that was an Expert in Denotation
> > > > > > > of bombs in those days...Albert Einstein.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Albert Einstein lifted his finger and wrote: According to the
> > > > > > > suggestion you expressed in your letter I am giving you here reasons
> > > > > > > for my opinion concerning the best localization for initiation of the
> > > > > > > Torpedo explosion...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1455974257809260546
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Page 1
> > > > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSoXXFUUAApz8f?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > > > > Page 2
> > > > > > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDSojvRVQAAjcLq?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 11:32:05 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Shouldn't have Albert Einstein have gotten The Nobel Peace Prize for The Atomic Bomb?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I mean, 'it' got Japan to surrender.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >The fact is, Albert Einstein is The Godfather of the Atomic Bomb, ...isn't that Right????
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Fri, 06 Aug 2021 18:17:32 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> >In article <610DDBC4.431@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > > > > > >> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >> Of course I know that...he dictated the letter to his secretary..(dats wat
> > > > > > > >> >> they did in those
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >Still wrong.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> So, Albert Einstein is groping his secretary..
> > > > > > > >> rubbing her butt and putting his hand up her blouse..
> > > > > > > >> and he tells her..
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> "Did you finish typing that letter for me, honey?"
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> She sez "Here it is, you pervert!"
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> He looks at it...(then does a spell check)
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Understandably, she misspelled Dr. Zsilard's name a few times.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> He tells her "You wrote Zillard, but there is only one L, and it
> > > > > > > >> begins with a S and small z, ..."
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/1
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> So she buttons up her blouse and retypes the letter...
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1425847669000343552/photo/2
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Then he tells her..."BEND OVER YOU FUCKING RUSSIAN BITCH!"
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> She tells him..."You're the bomb!"
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > > > >> the unchallengeable.
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.


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 by: The Horny Goat - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 09:26 UTC

On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 16:20:39 -0500, J. Clarke
<jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

>Not very smart though--any journalist worthy of the name who was given
>such a list and told not to mention any of it would know that there
>was something in the works. Not that it was much of a secret to the
>physics community--one of my professors, who had been in grad school
>at the time, commented that when they put together the list of noted
>physicists who had "disappeared" the obvious conclusion was "atom
>bomb".
>

Fair enough - but the Manhattan Project was always first an
engineering and production triumph rather than a chemical or
radiologicol triumph.

Within an hour of the dropping of the Hiroshima bomb Japanese
physicists had figured out WHAT had hit them and that it involved
creating a critical mass of U-235 (they weren't aware of plutonium
which was used in the Nagasaki bomb but U-235 was used in the
Hiroshima bomb) and that radioactive materials were what the A-bomb
was all about.

What they didn't have was the ability to set up a manufacturing plant
capable of actually building an atomic bomb of theri own.

Something along the lines of in the present day I know what goes into
producing a reusable rocket but don't have the production ability at
my command to actually do what SpaceX and their friends can do. I
suspect an aeronautical engineer would have a better idea than I do on
the specifics but without a manufacturing operation at his beck and
call he'd have no more success than I would.

The 'glory' of the US effort 1945-50 is that the engineers of the day
worked out what the obstacles to the bomb were and how to overcome
them which is very much a non-trivial exercise. For obvious reasons
they keep the key points secret - how much of each isotope is critical
mass, the specifics of isotope separation stuff like that.

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 by: Paul S Person - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 17:03 UTC

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 01:26:56 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 16:20:39 -0500, J. Clarke
><jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Not very smart though--any journalist worthy of the name who was given
>>such a list and told not to mention any of it would know that there
>>was something in the works. Not that it was much of a secret to the
>>physics community--one of my professors, who had been in grad school
>>at the time, commented that when they put together the list of noted
>>physicists who had "disappeared" the obvious conclusion was "atom
>>bomb".
>>
>
>Fair enough - but the Manhattan Project was always first an
>engineering and production triumph rather than a chemical or
>radiologicol triumph.
>
>Within an hour of the dropping of the Hiroshima bomb Japanese
>physicists had figured out WHAT had hit them and that it involved
>creating a critical mass of U-235 (they weren't aware of plutonium
>which was used in the Nagasaki bomb but U-235 was used in the
>Hiroshima bomb) and that radioactive materials were what the A-bomb
>was all about.
>
>What they didn't have was the ability to set up a manufacturing plant
>capable of actually building an atomic bomb of theri own.

There appears to be a film, /Gift of Fire/
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12015668/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1> about this.

I've never seen it, so I have no idea what it has to say on the topic

>Something along the lines of in the present day I know what goes into
>producing a reusable rocket but don't have the production ability at
>my command to actually do what SpaceX and their friends can do. I
>suspect an aeronautical engineer would have a better idea than I do on
>the specifics but without a manufacturing operation at his beck and
>call he'd have no more success than I would.
>
>The 'glory' of the US effort 1945-50 is that the engineers of the day
>worked out what the obstacles to the bomb were and how to overcome
>them which is very much a non-trivial exercise. For obvious reasons
>they keep the key points secret - how much of each isotope is critical
>mass, the specifics of isotope separation stuff like that.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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Not that it was much of a secret to the > >>physics community--one of my professors, who had been in grad school > >>at the time, commented that when they put together the list of noted > >>physicists who had "disappeared" the obvious conclusion was "atom > >>bomb". > >> > > > >Fair enough - but the Manhattan Project was always first an > >engineering and production triumph rather than a chemical or > >radiologicol triumph. > > > >Within an hour of the dropping of the Hiroshima bomb Japanese > >physicists had figured out WHAT had hit them and that it involved > >creating a critical mass of U-235 (they weren't aware of plutonium > >which was used in the Nagasaki bomb but U-235 was used in the > >Hiroshima bomb) and that radioactive materials were what the A-bomb > >was all about. > > > >What they didn't have was the ability to set up a manufacturing plant > >capable of actually building an atomic bomb of theri own. > > There appears to be a film, /Gift of Fire/ > about this. > > I've never seen it, so I have no idea what it has to say on the topic > > >Something along the lines of in the present day I know what goes into > >producing a reusable rocket but don't have the production ability at > >my command to actually do what SpaceX and their friends can do. I > >suspect an aeronautical engineer would have a better idea than I do on > >the specifics but without a manufacturing operation at his beck and > >call he'd have no more success than I would. > > > >The 'glory' of the US effort 1945-50 is that the engineers of the day > >worked out what the obstacles to the bomb were and how to overcome > >them which is very much a non-trivial exercise. For obvious reasons > >they keep the key points secret - how much of each isotope is critical > >mass, the specifics of isotope separation stuff like that. [I'm using a new new-reader for the first time. Appologies for messed up format, etc.] The attached might be of interest in this conversation. P. 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rocksolid light 0.9.81
clearnet tor