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* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereQuadibloc
+* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
|`* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereNinapenda Jibini
| `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereThomas Koenig
|  `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
|   `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HerePaul S Person
|    `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereNinapenda Jibini
|     `- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereAlan
+- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereNinapenda Jibini
`* Re: [OT] They Could Go Herea425couple
 +* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
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 |+* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereAlan
 ||`* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereQuadibloc
 || `- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereAlan
 |+* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereThe Horny Goat
 ||`* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
 || +* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereThe Horny Goat
 || |`* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereKevrob
 || | `- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereLynn McGuire
 || `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereQuadibloc
 ||  `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
 ||   `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereThe Horny Goat
 ||    `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
 ||     `- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereThe Horny Goat
 |`* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereQuadibloc
 | `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
 |  +- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
 |  +* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereQuadibloc
 |  |+* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
 |  ||+* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereQuadibloc
 |  |||+* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
 |  ||||+- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereAlan
 |  ||||`* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereQuadibloc
 |  |||| +* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
 |  |||| |+* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereAlan
 |  |||| ||`* Re: [OT] They Could Go HerePaul S Person
 |  |||| || `- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
 |  |||| |`- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereThe Horny Goat
 |  |||| +* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
 |  |||| |`- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereAlan
 |  |||| `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HerePaul S Person
 |  ||||  `- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
 |  |||+* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereQuadibloc
 |  ||||`* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
 |  |||| `- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereThe Horny Goat
 |  |||`- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
 |  ||`- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereThomas Koenig
 |  |`* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereLynn McGuire
 |  | `- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereAlan
 |  `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereThe Horny Goat
 |   `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJ. Clarke
 |    `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereThe Horny Goat
 |     `- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereJames Nicoll
 `* Re: [OT] They Could Go HereAlan
  `- Re: [OT] They Could Go HereScott Lurndal

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 by: Thomas Koenig - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 16:48 UTC

Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> schrieb:
> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in

>> In other words we will commit suicide. The Chinese can trade us
>> 3:1 and still win.
>>
> I suspect the ratio would be far, far higher than that. We have an
> army. They have a mob of peasants with substandard weaponry.

Hm... read

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/580248-china-triggers-growing-fears-for-us-military

and think again.

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 by: Thomas Koenig - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 16:59 UTC

J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> schrieb:

> The Soviet Union at its peak had an economy about 1/4 that of NATO. It
> wasn't NATO deterring the Soviet Union from invading, it was the
> Soviet Union deterring NATO. They knew that if NATO ever said "roll
> tanks" it was all over. I mean the effing Nazis had made it to the
> outskirts of Moscow with a two-front war going on--in a single-front
> war without nuclear weapons NATO would have hammered them flat.

There would have been no war in Western Europe without nuclear weapons.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Days_to_the_River_Rhine .

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 by: Jibini Kula Tumbili - Fri, 26 Nov 2021 16:00 UTC

Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote in
news:snoepi$ukg$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de:

> Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> schrieb:
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
>
>>> In other words we will commit suicide. The Chinese can trade
>>> us 3:1 and still win.
>>>
>> I suspect the ratio would be far, far higher than that. We have
>> an army. They have a mob of peasants with substandard weaponry.
>
> Hm... read
>
> https://thehill.com/policy/defense/580248-china-triggers-growing-
> fears-for-us-military
>
> and think again.

What I think is that's not a source that is credible for what the
military actually believes, but I'm not surprised you do.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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 by: Paul S Person - Sat, 27 Nov 2021 17:03 UTC

On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 09:00:29 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote in
>news:snoepi$ukg$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de:
>
>> Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
>>
>>>> In other words we will commit suicide. The Chinese can trade
>>>> us 3:1 and still win.
>>>>
>>> I suspect the ratio would be far, far higher than that. We have
>>> an army. They have a mob of peasants with substandard weaponry.
>>
>> Hm... read
>>
>> https://thehill.com/policy/defense/580248-china-triggers-growing-
>> fears-for-us-military
>>
>> and think again.
>
>What I think is that's not a source that is credible for what the
>military actually believes, but I'm not surprised you do.

Up to a point, it is the military's function to identify potential
military threats and warn the gummint of them.

Who else, after all, is better equipped to evaluate just how seriously
they should be taken?

Just as it is a normal function for the military to make plans for all
sorts of contingencies. One of the them, developed in the 20s and 30s,
turned out to be a good match to WWII in the Pacific. Well, except for
making Battleships the main fighting force, while Aircraft Carriers
turned out to be in the actual war. But the general strategic
direction was spot-on.

--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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 by: Ninapenda Jibini - Sat, 27 Nov 2021 17:19 UTC

Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
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> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 09:00:29 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote in
>>news:snoepi$ukg$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de:
>>
>>> Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>
>>>>> In other words we will commit suicide. The Chinese can
>>>>> trade us 3:1 and still win.
>>>>>
>>>> I suspect the ratio would be far, far higher than that. We
>>>> have an army. They have a mob of peasants with substandard
>>>> weaponry.
>>>
>>> Hm... read
>>>
>>> https://thehill.com/policy/defense/580248-china-triggers-growin
>>> g- fears-for-us-military
>>>
>>> and think again.
>>
>>What I think is that's not a source that is credible for what
>>the military actually believes, but I'm not surprised you do.
>
> Up to a point, it is the military's function to identify
> potential military threats and warn the gummint of them.

Which has nothing to do with some web site's reporting. Even if
they accurately report what they were told, there's no reason to
believe their information is accurate, or that they have the native
wit to tell. Disinformation is a science.
>
> Who else, after all, is better equipped to evaluate just how
> seriously they should be taken?
>
> Just as it is a normal function for the military to make plans
> for all sorts of contingencies. One of the them, developed in
> the 20s and 30s, turned out to be a good match to WWII in the
> Pacific. Well, except for making Battleships the main fighting
> force, while Aircraft Carriers turned out to be in the actual
> war. But the general strategic direction was spot-on.
>
Which again has nothing to do with how credible some web site is on
their reporting of it.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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 by: Alan - Sat, 27 Nov 2021 22:23 UTC

On 2021-11-27 9:19 a.m., Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
> Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
> news:80p4qgdoohubkfq673qsnl6trnbigua0ve@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 09:00:29 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote in
>>> news:snoepi$ukg$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de:
>>>
>>>> Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>
>>>>>> In other words we will commit suicide. The Chinese can
>>>>>> trade us 3:1 and still win.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect the ratio would be far, far higher than that. We
>>>>> have an army. They have a mob of peasants with substandard
>>>>> weaponry.
>>>>
>>>> Hm... read
>>>>
>>>> https://thehill.com/policy/defense/580248-china-triggers-growin
>>>> g- fears-for-us-military
>>>>
>>>> and think again.
>>>
>>> What I think is that's not a source that is credible for what
>>> the military actually believes, but I'm not surprised you do.
>>
>> Up to a point, it is the military's function to identify
>> potential military threats and warn the gummint of them.
>
> Which has nothing to do with some web site's reporting. Even if
> they accurately report what they were told, there's no reason to
> believe their information is accurate, or that they have the native
> wit to tell. Disinformation is a science.

And you've been a perfect lab rat for it.

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