William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:
>On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 3:44:49 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 5/27/2022 4:12 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>> > On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-4, William Hyde wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 5:12:13 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> >>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>> >>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has been
>> >>>> created. The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound with metal wire, and the boards of phenolic.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be found here:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>> >>>>
>> >>>> William Hyde
>> >>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>> >> I'm pretty sure the only Atwood you will read are her four Perry Rhodan novels.
>> >
>> > s/pretty sure/totally wrong in my opinion that/
>> >>
>> >> William Hyde
>> I did read her three "Oryx and Crake" novels.
>
>You must be a VI guy. I respect that.

I think he's more a VS (Visual Studio) guy.

On 5/31/2022 3:08 PM, William Hyde wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 3:44:49 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 5/27/2022 4:12 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-4, William Hyde wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 5:12:13 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has been
>>>>>> created. The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound with metal wire, and the boards of phenolic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be found here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>> I'm pretty sure the only Atwood you will read are her four Perry Rhodan novels.
>>>
>>> s/pretty sure/totally wrong in my opinion that/
>>>>
>>>> William Hyde
>> I did read her three "Oryx and Crake" novels.
>
> You must be a VI guy. I respect that.
>
> William Hyde

Ah, another acronym that I do not understand. What is a VI ?

Lynn

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>On 5/31/2022 3:08 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 3:44:49 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 5/27/2022 4:12 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-4, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 5:12:13 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has been
>>>>>>> created. The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound with metal wire, and the boards of phenolic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be found here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>> I'm pretty sure the only Atwood you will read are her four Perry Rhodan novels.
>>>>
>>>> s/pretty sure/totally wrong in my opinion that/
>>>>>
>>>>> William Hyde
>>> I did read her three "Oryx and Crake" novels.
>>
>> You must be a VI guy. I respect that.
>>
>> William Hyde
>
>Ah, another acronym that I do not understand. What is a VI ?

A fairly popular unix text editing program that added full
screen editing capabilities to the unix ed(1) line mode editor.

>>>> s/pretty sure/totally wrong in my opinion that/

This is ed syntax for text substitution (carried forward
into vi and USENET culture).

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 4:30:02 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 5/31/2022 3:08 PM, William Hyde wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 3:44:49 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >> On 5/27/2022 4:12 PM, William Hyde wrote:
> >>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-4, William Hyde wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 5:12:13 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
> >>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has been
> >>>>>> created. The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound with metal wire, and the boards of phenolic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be found here:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> William Hyde
> >>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
> >>>> I'm pretty sure the only Atwood you will read are her four Perry Rhodan novels.
> >>>
> >>> s/pretty sure/totally wrong in my opinion that/
> >>>>
> >>>> William Hyde
> >> I did read her three "Oryx and Crake" novels.
> >
> > You must be a VI guy. I respect that.
> >
> > William Hyde
> Ah, another acronym that I do not understand. What is a VI ?

Just a joke that fell flat. You see, in the earlier post I acknowledged ... ah, explaining failed jokes is even worse than making them.

William Hyde

On 5/31/2022 4:20 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 5/31/2022 3:08 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 3:44:49 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 5/27/2022 4:12 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-4, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 5:12:13 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has been
>>>>>>>> created. The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound with metal wire, and the boards of phenolic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be found here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>> I'm pretty sure the only Atwood you will read are her four Perry Rhodan novels.
>>>>>
>>>>> s/pretty sure/totally wrong in my opinion that/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>> I did read her three "Oryx and Crake" novels.
>>>
>>> You must be a VI guy. I respect that.
>>>
>>> William Hyde
>>
>> Ah, another acronym that I do not understand. What is a VI ?
>
> A fairly popular unix text editing program that added full
> screen editing capabilities to the unix ed(1) line mode editor.
>
>>>>> s/pretty sure/totally wrong in my opinion that/
>
> This is ed syntax for text substitution (carried forward
> into vi and USENET culture).

Ah, the unix vi editor. I use it for editing my websites on my FreeBSD box.

For Windows, I do use Visual Studio for my C++ code. I use Crimson
Editor for my F77 code.

Lynn

On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 23:40:26 UTC+1, William Hyde wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 4:30:02 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > On 5/31/2022 3:08 PM, William Hyde wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 3:44:49 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > >> On 5/27/2022 4:12 PM, William Hyde wrote:
> > >>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-4, William Hyde wrote:
> > >>>> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 5:12:13 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > >>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
> > >>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has been
> > >>>>>> created. The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound with metal wire, and the boards of phenolic.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be found here:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> William Hyde
> > >>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
> > >>>> I'm pretty sure the only Atwood you will read are her four Perry Rhodan novels.
> > >>>
> > >>> s/pretty sure/totally wrong in my opinion that/
> > >>>>
> > >>>> William Hyde
> > >> I did read her three "Oryx and Crake" novels.
> > >
> > > You must be a VI guy. I respect that.
> > >
> > > William Hyde
> > Ah, another acronym that I do not understand. What is a VI ?
> Just a joke that fell flat. You see, in the earlier post I acknowledged ... ah, explaining failed jokes is even worse than making them.

A case of <he sed; <she sed.

On 01/06/2022 09:23, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 23:40:26 UTC+1, William Hyde wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 4:30:02 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 5/31/2022 3:08 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 3:44:49 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 5/27/2022 4:12 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 3:43:03 PM UTC-4, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 5:12:13 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has been
>>>>>>>>> created. The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound with metal wire, and the boards of phenolic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be found here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure the only Atwood you will read are her four Perry Rhodan novels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> s/pretty sure/totally wrong in my opinion that/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>> I did read her three "Oryx and Crake" novels.
>>>>
>>>> You must be a VI guy. I respect that.
>>>>
>>>> William Hyde
>>> Ah, another acronym that I do not understand. What is a VI ?
>> Just a joke that fell flat. You see, in the earlier post I acknowledged ... ah, explaining failed jokes is even worse than making them.
>
> A case of <he sed; <she sed.

It's getting a tad awk-ward...

On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>> On 5/27/2022 7:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:30:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/26/2022 4:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has been
>>>>>> created.  The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound with
>>>>>> metal wire, and the boards  of phenolic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be  found
>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> But her “Oryx and Crake” series is pretty good.  It is about the coming
>>>> genetic modification of everything, including humans.  The pigs with
>>>> human brain DNA bothered me the most.  I have been treed by a hundred
>>>> javelinas while hunting, I would hate to mess with them if they
>>>> actually
>>>> had intelligence.  I shot one of the javelinas with my .308, the
>>>> rest of
>>>> them did not care.  A hundred javelinas and five rounds in my gun is a
>>>> very bad match.  I now carry a pistol when hunting also.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Crake-MaddAddam-Trilogy-Margaret-Atwood/dp/0385721676
>>>>
>>>
>>>  From the sound of things a few grenades might be in order.  And the
>>> 155s on call.
>>
>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree but
>> then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>
> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of 30
> to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid, travel in
> huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>
> Lynn

Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly object
to my presence while backpacking/camping.

On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>> On 5/27/2022 7:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:30:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/26/2022 4:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has been
>>>>>>> created.  The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> metal wire, and the boards  of phenolic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be  found
>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>> But her “Oryx and Crake” series is pretty good.  It is about the
>>>>> coming
>>>>> genetic modification of everything, including humans.  The pigs with
>>>>> human brain DNA bothered me the most.  I have been treed by a hundred
>>>>> javelinas while hunting, I would hate to mess with them if they
>>>>> actually
>>>>> had intelligence.  I shot one of the javelinas with my .308, the
>>>>> rest of
>>>>> them did not care.  A hundred javelinas and five rounds in my gun is a
>>>>> very bad match.  I now carry a pistol when hunting also.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Crake-MaddAddam-Trilogy-Margaret-Atwood/dp/0385721676
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  From the sound of things a few grenades might be in order.  And the
>>>> 155s on call.
>>>
>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree but
>>> then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>
>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of 30
>> to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid, travel
>> in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>
>> Lynn
>
> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly object
>  to my presence while backpacking/camping.

Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup. And occasionally
shooting at them. Or running them over with my truck.

I would not go anywhere near them while on foot. They are freaking
dangerous.

Lynn

On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>> On 5/27/2022 7:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:30:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 4:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has
>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> created.  The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> metal wire, and the boards  of phenolic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be
>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But her “Oryx and Crake” series is pretty good.  It is about the
>>>>>> coming
>>>>>> genetic modification of everything, including humans.  The pigs with
>>>>>> human brain DNA bothered me the most.  I have been treed by a hundred
>>>>>> javelinas while hunting, I would hate to mess with them if they
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>> had intelligence.  I shot one of the javelinas with my .308, the
>>>>>> rest of
>>>>>> them did not care.  A hundred javelinas and five rounds in my gun
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> very bad match.  I now carry a pistol when hunting also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Crake-MaddAddam-Trilogy-Margaret-Atwood/dp/0385721676
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  From the sound of things a few grenades might be in order.  And the
>>>>> 155s on call.
>>>>
>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>>
>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
>>> 30 to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid,
>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>
>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
>> object   to my presence while backpacking/camping.
>
> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup.  And occasionally
> shooting at them.  Or running them over with my truck.
>
> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot.  They are freaking
> dangerous.
>

Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
the boars I encountered in Germany.

Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?

On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
<morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:

>On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>> On 5/27/2022 7:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:30:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 4:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has
>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>> created.  The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> metal wire, and the boards  of phenolic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be
>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But her “Oryx and Crake” series is pretty good.  It is about the
>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>> genetic modification of everything, including humans.  The pigs with
>>>>>>> human brain DNA bothered me the most.  I have been treed by a hundred
>>>>>>> javelinas while hunting, I would hate to mess with them if they
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> had intelligence.  I shot one of the javelinas with my .308, the
>>>>>>> rest of
>>>>>>> them did not care.  A hundred javelinas and five rounds in my gun
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> very bad match.  I now carry a pistol when hunting also.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Crake-MaddAddam-Trilogy-Margaret-Atwood/dp/0385721676
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From the sound of things a few grenades might be in order.  And the
>>>>>> 155s on call.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
>>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>>>
>>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
>>>> 30 to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid,
>>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
>>> object   to my presence while backpacking/camping.
>>
>> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup.  And occasionally
>> shooting at them.  Or running them over with my truck.
>>
>> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot.  They are freaking
>> dangerous.
>>
>
>Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
>the boars I encountered in Germany.
>
>Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?

Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
Wildlife Conservation.

I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

On 6/2/2022 10:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>
>> On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/27/2022 7:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:30:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 4:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>> created.  The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> metal wire, and the boards  of phenolic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be
>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But her “Oryx and Crake” series is pretty good.  It is about the
>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>> genetic modification of everything, including humans.  The pigs with
>>>>>>>> human brain DNA bothered me the most.  I have been treed by a hundred
>>>>>>>> javelinas while hunting, I would hate to mess with them if they
>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>> had intelligence.  I shot one of the javelinas with my .308, the
>>>>>>>> rest of
>>>>>>>> them did not care.  A hundred javelinas and five rounds in my gun
>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>> very bad match.  I now carry a pistol when hunting also.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Crake-MaddAddam-Trilogy-Margaret-Atwood/dp/0385721676
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  From the sound of things a few grenades might be in order.  And the
>>>>>>> 155s on call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
>>>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
>>>>> 30 to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid,
>>>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
>>>> object   to my presence while backpacking/camping.
>>>
>>> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup.  And occasionally
>>> shooting at them.  Or running them over with my truck.
>>>
>>> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot.  They are freaking
>>> dangerous.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
>> the boars I encountered in Germany.
>>
>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>
> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
> Wildlife Conservation.
>
> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.

Kill them all. We have an estimated 4 million feral pigs in Texas
alone, increasing at a half million per year. They will outnumber the 6
million deer soon.

Lynn

On 6/2/2022 8:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>
>> On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
>>>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
>>>>> 30 to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid,
>>>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
>>>> object   to my presence while backpacking/camping.
>>>
>>> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup.  And occasionally
>>> shooting at them.  Or running them over with my truck.
>>>
>>> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot.  They are freaking
>>> dangerous.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
>> the boars I encountered in Germany.
>>
>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>
> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
> Wildlife Conservation.
>
> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.

If you see it let us know what it says.

--
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dirty old man.

In article <t7b52h$6t2$1@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 6/2/2022 8:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
>> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
>>>>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
>>>>>> 30 to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid,
>>>>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
>>>>> object   to my presence while backpacking/camping.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup.  And occasionally
>>>> shooting at them.  Or running them over with my truck.
>>>>
>>>> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot.  They are freaking
>>>> dangerous.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
>>> the boars I encountered in Germany.
>>>
>>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>>
>> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
>> Wildlife Conservation.
>>
>> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
>
>If you see it let us know what it says.
>

Well, if it takes a "Conservation" point of view, feral hogs are invasive,
and Javelinas are native (and apparently not pigs).
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Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>On 6/2/2022 10:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
>> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>>
>> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
>> Wildlife Conservation.
>>
>> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
>
>Kill them all. We have an estimated 4 million feral pigs in Texas
>alone, increasing at a half million per year. They will outnumber the 6
>million deer soon.

The state of texas seems to disagree about the peccary, at least:

"Javelina have long held an undeserved reputation
for ferocity. They have poor eyesight and will often
remain around humans longer than other wildlife when
startled. When cornered, they can defend themselves
very effectively with sharp canine teeth or "tusks".
Many dogs have been crippled or killed when trying to
attack javelina. Yet aggressive encounters with humans are
very, very rare."

And they go on to make suggestions, like _DON'T FEED THEM_.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/land/habitats/trans_pecos/big_game/javelina/

On 6/2/2022 4:33 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 6/2/2022 10:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
>>> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>>>
>>> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
>>> Wildlife Conservation.
>>>
>>> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
>>
>> Kill them all. We have an estimated 4 million feral pigs in Texas
>> alone, increasing at a half million per year. They will outnumber the 6
>> million deer soon.
>
> The state of texas seems to disagree about the peccary, at least:
>
> "Javelina have long held an undeserved reputation
> for ferocity. They have poor eyesight and will often
> remain around humans longer than other wildlife when
> startled. When cornered, they can defend themselves
> very effectively with sharp canine teeth or "tusks".
> Many dogs have been crippled or killed when trying to
> attack javelina. Yet aggressive encounters with humans are
> very, very rare."
>
> And they go on to make suggestions, like _DON'T FEED THEM_.
>
> https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/land/habitats/trans_pecos/big_game/javelina/

Go walk through a herd of javelinas. Drop me an email afterwards.

Lynn

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 17:03:51 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/2/2022 4:33 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>> On 6/2/2022 10:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
>>>> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>>>>
>>>> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
>>>> Wildlife Conservation.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
>>>
>>> Kill them all. We have an estimated 4 million feral pigs in Texas
>>> alone, increasing at a half million per year. They will outnumber the 6
>>> million deer soon.
>>
>> The state of texas seems to disagree about the peccary, at least:
>>
>> "Javelina have long held an undeserved reputation
>> for ferocity. They have poor eyesight and will often
>> remain around humans longer than other wildlife when
>> startled. When cornered, they can defend themselves
>> very effectively with sharp canine teeth or "tusks".
>> Many dogs have been crippled or killed when trying to
>> attack javelina. Yet aggressive encounters with humans are
>> very, very rare."
>>
>> And they go on to make suggestions, like _DON'T FEED THEM_.
>>
>> https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/land/habitats/trans_pecos/big_game/javelina/
>
>Go walk through a herd of javelinas. Drop me an email afterwards.
>
Whether or not one feeds them is really up to them.

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:23:27 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/2/2022 10:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
>> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/27/2022 7:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:30:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 4:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has
>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>> created.  The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> metal wire, and the boards  of phenolic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be
>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But her “Oryx and Crake” series is pretty good.  It is about the
>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>> genetic modification of everything, including humans.  The pigs with
>>>>>>>>> human brain DNA bothered me the most.  I have been treed by a hundred
>>>>>>>>> javelinas while hunting, I would hate to mess with them if they
>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>> had intelligence.  I shot one of the javelinas with my .308, the
>>>>>>>>> rest of
>>>>>>>>> them did not care.  A hundred javelinas and five rounds in my gun
>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>> very bad match.  I now carry a pistol when hunting also.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Crake-MaddAddam-Trilogy-Margaret-Atwood/dp/0385721676
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  From the sound of things a few grenades might be in order.  And the
>>>>>>>> 155s on call.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
>>>>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
>>>>>> 30 to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid,
>>>>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
>>>>> object   to my presence while backpacking/camping.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup.  And occasionally
>>>> shooting at them.  Or running them over with my truck.
>>>>
>>>> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot.  They are freaking
>>>> dangerous.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
>>> the boars I encountered in Germany.
>>>
>>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>>
>> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
>> Wildlife Conservation.
>>
>> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
>
>Kill them all. We have an estimated 4 million feral pigs in Texas
>alone, increasing at a half million per year. They will outnumber the 6
>million deer soon.

That's a lot of live non-stock roaming about at will.

Perhaps fencing them in would help ...

or maybe gene therapy to reduce reproductive success.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 13:03:48 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 6/2/2022 8:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
>> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
>>>>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
>>>>>> 30 to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid,
>>>>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
>>>>> object   to my presence while backpacking/camping.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup.  And occasionally
>>>> shooting at them.  Or running them over with my truck.
>>>>
>>>> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot.  They are freaking
>>>> dangerous.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
>>> the boars I encountered in Germany.
>>>
>>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>>
>> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
>> Wildlife Conservation.
>>
>> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
>
>If you see it let us know what it says.

Sadly, I do not watch documentaries, and did not like the one or two
"docudramas" (or whatever /The Big Short/, say, is to be called) that
I was inveigled into watching. So that will not be possible.

Exceptions are:
-- Woodstock (a true documentary, as opposed to a propaganda piece)
-- What We Do In the Shadows (which is, of course, generally
considered a mockumentary, but who can say?) (the movie, not any
related TV series)
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> schrieb:

> Sadly, I do not watch documentaries, and did not like the one or two
> "docudramas" (or whatever /The Big Short/, say, is to be called) that
> I was inveigled into watching. So that will not be possible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_(miniseries) is quite good
(but takes some liberties with accuracy).

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
>On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 13:03:48 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>
>Sadly, I do not watch documentaries, and did not like the one or two
>"docudramas" (or whatever /The Big Short/, say, is to be called) that
>I was inveigled into watching. So that will not be possible.
>
>Exceptions are:
>-- Woodstock (a true documentary, as opposed to a propaganda piece)

_The Last Waltz_ is well done, although perhaps more as a concert
film as a documentary.

On 6/3/2022 8:44 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:23:27 -0500, Lynn McGuire
> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/2/2022 10:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
>>> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/27/2022 7:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:30:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 4:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has
>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>> created.  The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> metal wire, and the boards  of phenolic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But her “Oryx and Crake” series is pretty good.  It is about the
>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>> genetic modification of everything, including humans.  The pigs with
>>>>>>>>>> human brain DNA bothered me the most.  I have been treed by a hundred
>>>>>>>>>> javelinas while hunting, I would hate to mess with them if they
>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>> had intelligence.  I shot one of the javelinas with my .308, the
>>>>>>>>>> rest of
>>>>>>>>>> them did not care.  A hundred javelinas and five rounds in my gun
>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>> very bad match.  I now carry a pistol when hunting also.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Crake-MaddAddam-Trilogy-Margaret-Atwood/dp/0385721676
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  From the sound of things a few grenades might be in order.  And the
>>>>>>>>> 155s on call.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
>>>>>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
>>>>>>> 30 to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid,
>>>>>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
>>>>>> object   to my presence while backpacking/camping.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup.  And occasionally
>>>>> shooting at them.  Or running them over with my truck.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot.  They are freaking
>>>>> dangerous.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
>>>> the boars I encountered in Germany.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>>>
>>> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
>>> Wildlife Conservation.
>>>
>>> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
>>
>> Kill them all. We have an estimated 4 million feral pigs in Texas
>> alone, increasing at a half million per year. They will outnumber the 6
>> million deer soon.
>
> That's a lot of live non-stock roaming about at will.
>
> Perhaps fencing them in would help ...
>
Would cost more than Trump's Mexican Wall. Have to be tougher too. :P

> or maybe gene therapy to reduce reproductive success.

I'm not sticking it with a needle! You stick it with a needle first!

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dirty old man.

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:23:27 -0500, Lynn McGuire
> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/2/2022 10:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
>>> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/27/2022 7:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:30:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 4:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has
>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>> created.  The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> metal wire, and the boards  of phenolic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But her ?Oryx and Crake? series is pretty good.  It is about the
>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>> genetic modification of everything, including humans.  The pigs with
>>>>>>>>>> human brain DNA bothered me the most.  I have been treed by a hundred
>>>>>>>>>> javelinas while hunting, I would hate to mess with them if they
>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>> had intelligence.  I shot one of the javelinas with my .308, the
>>>>>>>>>> rest of
>>>>>>>>>> them did not care.  A hundred javelinas and five rounds in my gun
>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>> very bad match.  I now carry a pistol when hunting also.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Crake-MaddAddam-Trilogy-Margaret-Atwood/dp/0385721676
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  From the sound of things a few grenades might be in order.  And the
>>>>>>>>> 155s on call.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
>>>>>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
>>>>>>> 30 to 35.  They are fairly smart.  The javelina pigs are stupid,
>>>>>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
>>>>>> object   to my presence while backpacking/camping.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup.  And occasionally
>>>>> shooting at them.  Or running them over with my truck.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot.  They are freaking
>>>>> dangerous.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
>>>> the boars I encountered in Germany.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>>>
>>> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
>>> Wildlife Conservation.
>>>
>>> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
>>
>>Kill them all. We have an estimated 4 million feral pigs in Texas
>>alone, increasing at a half million per year. They will outnumber the 6
>>million deer soon.
>
> That's a lot of live non-stock roaming about at will.
>
> Perhaps fencing them in would help ...

Out. They need to be fenced out...they're already in, which is the problem.
The other problem is building a fence that they can't go through or under
with sufficient motivation.
When we moved into our current house about 15 years ago we would sometimes see
5-10 of them if we went out very early and see the marks they left rooting.
Now it's 2-3 times that many and they're out during the day, although they
at least stay out of the streets (during the day anyway).

Robert
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On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 9:18:07 PM UTC-4, rksh...@rosettacondot.com wrote:
> Paul S Person <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:23:27 -0500, Lynn McGuire
> > <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On 6/2/2022 10:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
> >>> <mor...@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >>>>> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
> >>>>>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 5/27/2022 7:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:30:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
> >>>>>>>>> <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 4:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has
> >>>>>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>> created. The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> metal wire, and the boards of phenolic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> found
> >>>>>>>>>>>> here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> William Hyde
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Lynn
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But her ?Oryx and Crake? series is pretty good. It is about the
> >>>>>>>>>> coming
> >>>>>>>>>> genetic modification of everything, including humans. The pigs with
> >>>>>>>>>> human brain DNA bothered me the most. I have been treed by a hundred
> >>>>>>>>>> javelinas while hunting, I would hate to mess with them if they
> >>>>>>>>>> actually
> >>>>>>>>>> had intelligence. I shot one of the javelinas with my .308, the
> >>>>>>>>>> rest of
> >>>>>>>>>> them did not care. A hundred javelinas and five rounds in my gun
> >>>>>>>>>> is a
> >>>>>>>>>> very bad match. I now carry a pistol when hunting also.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Crake-MaddAddam-Trilogy-Margaret-Atwood/dp/0385721676
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> From the sound of things a few grenades might be in order. And the
> >>>>>>>>> 155s on call.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
> >>>>>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
> >>>>>>> 30 to 35. They are fairly smart. The javelina pigs are stupid,
> >>>>>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lynn
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
> >>>>>> object to my presence while backpacking/camping.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup. And occasionally
> >>>>> shooting at them. Or running them over with my truck.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot. They are freaking
> >>>>> dangerous.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
> >>>> the boars I encountered in Germany.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
> >>>
> >>> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
> >>> Wildlife Conservation.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
> >>
> >>Kill them all. We have an estimated 4 million feral pigs in Texas
> >>alone, increasing at a half million per year. They will outnumber the 6
> >>million deer soon.
> >
> > That's a lot of live non-stock roaming about at will.
> >
> > Perhaps fencing them in would help ...
> Out. They need to be fenced out...they're already in, which is the problem.
> The other problem is building a fence that they can't go through or under
> with sufficient motivation.
> When we moved into our current house about 15 years ago we would sometimes see
> 5-10 of them if we went out very early and see the marks they left rooting.
> Now it's 2-3 times that many and they're out during the day, although they
> at least stay out of the streets (during the day anyway).
>
>
> --
>

Herd all the nasty piggies to the border, and use them like sharks on your
Evil Overlord HQ's moat?

Durned things can swim, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5xqf5dOEXk&ab_channel=PatHanning

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On 6/8/2022 1:23 AM, Kevrob wrote:
> On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 9:18:07 PM UTC-4, rksh...@rosettacondot.com wrote:
>> Paul S Person <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:23:27 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>> <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/2/2022 10:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 22:33:01 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
>>>>> <mor...@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/1/2022 9:43 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/1/2022 9:01 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 11:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2022 9:58 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/27/2022 7:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:30:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>>>>>>> <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 4:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/2022 2:22 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A fireproof copy of Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tail" has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created. The pages and cover are aluminum, the signatures bound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metal wire, and the boards of phenolic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A video of Ms Atwood taking a flamethrower to her book can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsMsAMY4eM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William Hyde
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Still not going to read it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But her ?Oryx and Crake? series is pretty good. It is about the
>>>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>>>> genetic modification of everything, including humans. The pigs with
>>>>>>>>>>>> human brain DNA bothered me the most. I have been treed by a hundred
>>>>>>>>>>>> javelinas while hunting, I would hate to mess with them if they
>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> had intelligence. I shot one of the javelinas with my .308, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> rest of
>>>>>>>>>>>> them did not care. A hundred javelinas and five rounds in my gun
>>>>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> very bad match. I now carry a pistol when hunting also.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Crake-MaddAddam-Trilogy-Margaret-Atwood/dp/0385721676
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From the sound of things a few grenades might be in order. And the
>>>>>>>>>>> 155s on call.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's reserved for the feral hogs. Both will chase you up a tree
>>>>>>>>>> but then the ferals will eat the tree to get to you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have always had the feral pigs run away from me, even in packs of
>>>>>>>>> 30 to 35. They are fairly smart. The javelina pigs are stupid,
>>>>>>>>> travel in huge packs of a 100 or more, and always chase you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Must be the east verses west Texas pigs. I have had them strongly
>>>>>>>> object to my presence while backpacking/camping.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, I am usually chasing them in a 4x4 pickup. And occasionally
>>>>>>> shooting at them. Or running them over with my truck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would not go anywhere near them while on foot. They are freaking
>>>>>>> dangerous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, were never intentional encounters. They're bigger and meaner than
>>>>>> the boars I encountered in Germany.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, wonder how many can say they've been treed by pigs on two continents?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rotten Tomatoes suggests a documentary is opening this week on Texas
>>>>> Wildlife Conservation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder what /it/ has to say about feral pigs and/or javelinas.
>>>>
>>>> Kill them all. We have an estimated 4 million feral pigs in Texas
>>>> alone, increasing at a half million per year. They will outnumber the 6
>>>> million deer soon.
>>>
>>> That's a lot of live non-stock roaming about at will.
>>>
>>> Perhaps fencing them in would help ...
>> Out. They need to be fenced out...they're already in, which is the problem.
>> The other problem is building a fence that they can't go through or under
>> with sufficient motivation.
>> When we moved into our current house about 15 years ago we would sometimes see
>> 5-10 of them if we went out very early and see the marks they left rooting.
>> Now it's 2-3 times that many and they're out during the day, although they
>> at least stay out of the streets (during the day anyway).
>>
>>
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>
> Herd all the nasty piggies to the border, and use them like sharks on your
> Evil Overlord HQ's moat?
>
> Durned things can swim, though.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5xqf5dOEXk&ab_channel=PatHanning
>
Two problems with that idea. One, how are you going to herd them? Two,
how are you going to make them stay at the border?

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