“10 Famous Science Fiction Authors”
https://studyfy.com/blog/the-10-best-sci-fi-authors-of-all-time

“Science fiction is one of the most popular genres of entertainment in
the world today. It has grown from a niche interest 100 years ago into a
multibillion-dollar industry. Now almost every single person on the
planet has either read or watched something related to science fiction.
Its importance is only going to grow in the future. In this article,
we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time.”

"William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."

Yup, that is eleven, not ten. And that is a great group. I would like
to add David Weber and Orson Scott Card to the group.

Lynn

On 6/19/2022 10:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> “10 Famous Science Fiction Authors”
>    https://studyfy.com/blog/the-10-best-sci-fi-authors-of-all-time
>
> “Science fiction is one of the most popular genres of entertainment in
> the world today. It has grown from a niche interest 100 years ago into a
> multibillion-dollar industry. Now almost every single person on the
> planet has either read or watched something related to science fiction.
> Its importance is only going to grow in the future. In this article,
> we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
> go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
> big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
> the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
> of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time.”
>
> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
> Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
> Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>
> Yup, that is eleven, not ten.  And that is a great group.  I would like
> to add David Weber and Orson Scott Card to the group.
>
> Lynn

And I feel bad that I forgot Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Alan Dean
Foster to add to the list.

Lynn

On 2022-06-19 9:08 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
> “10 Famous Science Fiction Authors”
>    https://studyfy.com/blog/the-10-best-sci-fi-authors-of-all-time
>
> “Science fiction is one of the most popular genres of entertainment in
> the world today. It has grown from a niche interest 100 years ago into a
> multibillion-dollar industry. Now almost every single person on the
> planet has either read or watched something related to science fiction.
> Its importance is only going to grow in the future. In this article,
> we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
> go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
> big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
> the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
> of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time.”
>
> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
> Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
> Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>
> Yup, that is eleven, not ten.  And that is a great group.  I would like
> to add David Weber and Orson Scott Card to the group.
>
> Lynn

Card maybe. Weber only if you pull Ringo since they farm the same ground.

On 20/06/2022 04:08, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> “10 Famous Science Fiction Authors”
>    https://studyfy.com/blog/the-10-best-sci-fi-authors-of-all-time
>
> “Science fiction is one of the most popular genres of entertainment in
> the world today. It has grown from a niche interest 100 years ago into a
> multibillion-dollar industry. Now almost every single person on the
> planet has either read or watched something related to science fiction.
> Its importance is only going to grow in the future. In this article,
> we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
> go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
> big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
> the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
> of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time.”
>
> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
> Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
> Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>
> Yup, that is eleven, not ten.  And that is a great group.  I would like
> to add David Weber and Orson Scott Card to the group.
>
> Lynn

Also let's add: David Brin, Ursula K. LeGuin, John Varley, Harry
Harrison...the list goes on.

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In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>"William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
>Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
>Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."

One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't belong...

I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
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On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 10:08:55 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> “10 Famous Science Fiction Authors”
> https://studyfy.com/blog/the-10-best-sci-fi-authors-of-all-time
>
> “Science fiction is one of the most popular genres of entertainment in
> the world today. It has grown from a niche interest 100 years ago into a
> multibillion-dollar industry. Now almost every single person on the
> planet has either read or watched something related to science fiction.
> Its importance is only going to grow in the future. In this article,
> we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
> go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
> big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
> the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
> of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time..”
>
> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
> Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
> Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."

I have read 10/11 of those authors which is better than I usually do with these lists. Perhaps they have a Ringo book at the library...

In article <t8psis$dc$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

> In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
> >Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
> >Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>
> One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't
> belong...
>
> I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?

Just how is he uniquely unlike the others? IIRC, 9 of the 11 have died
(he and Gibson are the exceptions). He hasn't received a Hugo or Nebula
award, but neither did Verne and Wells (not being alive while such were
being handed out). I haven't found a mention of a Hugo or Nebula award
for Ray Bradbury, Retro-Hugos yes. Ringo has been published by Baen
Books, but Baen Books has also reprinted Robert Heinlein.

I have been handed a note "First publication in the 21st Century".

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On 6/20/2022 10:08 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 10:08:55 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> “10 Famous Science Fiction Authors”
>> https://studyfy.com/blog/the-10-best-sci-fi-authors-of-all-time
>>
>> “Science fiction is one of the most popular genres of entertainment in
>> the world today. It has grown from a niche interest 100 years ago into a
>> multibillion-dollar industry. Now almost every single person on the
>> planet has either read or watched something related to science fiction.
>> Its importance is only going to grow in the future. In this article,
>> we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
>> go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
>> big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
>> the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
>> of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time.”
>>
>> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
>> Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
>> Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>
> I have read 10/11 of those authors which is better than I usually do with these lists. Perhaps they have a Ringo book at the library...

"Live Free or Die" is my favorite John Ringo series.
https://www.amazon.com/Live-Free-Die-Troy-Rising/dp/1439133972/

Lynn

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 4:09:03 PM UTC+1, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 10:08:55 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > “10 Famous Science Fiction Authors”
> > https://studyfy.com/blog/the-10-best-sci-fi-authors-of-all-time
> >
> > “Science fiction is one of the most popular genres of entertainment in
> > the world today. It has grown from a niche interest 100 years ago into a
> > multibillion-dollar industry. Now almost every single person on the
> > planet has either read or watched something related to science fiction.
> > Its importance is only going to grow in the future. In this article,
> > we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
> > go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
> > big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
> > the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
> > of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time.”
> >
> > "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
> > Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
> > Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
> I have read 10/11 of those authors which is better than I usually do with these lists. Perhaps they have a Ringo book at the library...

I can wholeheartedly recommend the Looking Glass series, of which Ringo is a co-author for some and I think only author for others.

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 6:06:04 PM UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 6/20/2022 10:08 AM, art...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 10:08:55 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >> “10 Famous Science Fiction Authors”
> >> https://studyfy.com/blog/the-10-best-sci-fi-authors-of-all-time
> >>
> >> “Science fiction is one of the most popular genres of entertainment in
> >> the world today. It has grown from a niche interest 100 years ago into a
> >> multibillion-dollar industry. Now almost every single person on the
> >> planet has either read or watched something related to science fiction..
> >> Its importance is only going to grow in the future. In this article,
> >> we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
> >> go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
> >> big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
> >> the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
> >> of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time.”
> >>
> >> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
> >> Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
> >> Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
> >
> > I have read 10/11 of those authors which is better than I usually do with these lists. Perhaps they have a Ringo book at the library...
> "Live Free or Die" is my favorite John Ringo series.
> https://www.amazon.com/Live-Free-Die-Troy-Rising/dp/1439133972/
>
> Lynn
I have just recommended the Looking Glass series, but I enjoyed the Live Free or Die / Troy Rising series as well

On 6/20/2022 1:12 PM, Andrew McDowell wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 6:06:04 PM UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 6/20/2022 10:08 AM, art...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 10:08:55 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> “10 Famous Science Fiction Authors”
>>>> https://studyfy.com/blog/the-10-best-sci-fi-authors-of-all-time
>>>>
>>>> “Science fiction is one of the most popular genres of entertainment in
>>>> the world today. It has grown from a niche interest 100 years ago into a
>>>> multibillion-dollar industry. Now almost every single person on the
>>>> planet has either read or watched something related to science fiction.
>>>> Its importance is only going to grow in the future. In this article,
>>>> we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
>>>> go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
>>>> big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
>>>> the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
>>>> of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time.”
>>>>
>>>> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
>>>> Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
>>>> Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>>>
>>> I have read 10/11 of those authors which is better than I usually do with these lists. Perhaps they have a Ringo book at the library...
>> "Live Free or Die" is my favorite John Ringo series.
>> https://www.amazon.com/Live-Free-Die-Troy-Rising/dp/1439133972/
>>
>> Lynn
> I have just recommended the Looking Glass series, but I enjoyed the Live Free or Die / Troy Rising series as well

One of my thoughts is that the Looking Glass Series has not been
finished yet.

Thanks,
Lynn

In article <t8qep3$15a$2@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 6/20/2022 1:12 PM, Andrew McDowell wrote:
>> I have just recommended the Looking Glass series, but I enjoyed the
>Live Free or Die / Troy Rising series as well
>
>One of my thoughts is that the Looking Glass Series has not been
>finished yet.
>
>Thanks,
>Lynn

Was the Troy Rising series finished? I thought it just kind of ended.
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On 6/20/2022 1:40 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <t8qep3$15a$2@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/20/2022 1:12 PM, Andrew McDowell wrote:
>>> I have just recommended the Looking Glass series, but I enjoyed the
>> Live Free or Die / Troy Rising series as well
>>
>> One of my thoughts is that the Looking Glass Series has not been
>> finished yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lynn
>
> Was the Troy Rising series finished? I thought it just kind of ended.

Yes and yes.

Lynn

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward wrote:
> In article <t8psis$dc$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
> jdni...@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>
> > In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
> > >Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
> > >Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
> >
> > One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't
> > belong...
> >
> > I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
> Just how is he uniquely unlike the others? [snip]

Well, we don't know what criteria the compiler used, so we
can't tell whether the chosen authors meet the criteria. It's like
trying to answer the question "What do Harlan Ellison, Roger
Zelazny, George Alec Effinger, Lois McMaster Bujold and
R. A. MacAvoy have in common?"

On 6/20/2022 6:04 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward wrote:
>> In article <t8psis$dc$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
>> jdni...@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>>
>>> In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
>>>> Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
>>>> Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>>>
>>> One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't
>>> belong...
>>>
>>> I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
>> Just how is he uniquely unlike the others? [snip]
>
> Well, we don't know what criteria the compiler used, so we
> can't tell whether the chosen authors meet the criteria. It's like
> trying to answer the question "What do Harlan Ellison, Roger
> Zelazny, George Alec Effinger, Lois McMaster Bujold and
> R. A. MacAvoy have in common?"

They all breathed air on a fairly regular basis.

Lynn

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward wrote:
> In article <t8psis$dc$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
> jdni...@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>
> > In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
> > >Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
> > >Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
> >
> > One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't
> > belong...
> >
> > I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
>
> Just how is he uniquely unlike the others?

From the original post:
"In this article,
we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time."

While Ringo is definitely well known and successful (and more power
to him and anyone else who can say that), it does seem odd to me that
the article-writer sees Ringo as one of the best, and/or one of the most
impactful, and/or as having written one/some of the top sci fi books of
all time.

But in the end, these are just my opinions running counter to the
article-writer's opinions.

Tony

> IIRC, 9 of the 11 have died
> (he and Gibson are the exceptions). He hasn't received a Hugo or Nebula
> award, but neither did Verne and Wells (not being alive while such were
> being handed out). I haven't found a mention of a Hugo or Nebula award
> for Ray Bradbury, Retro-Hugos yes. Ringo has been published by Baen
> Books, but Baen Books has also reprinted Robert Heinlein.
>
> I have been handed a note "First publication in the 21st Century".
>
> --
> "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
> Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
> ã-----------------------------------------------------
> Robert Woodward robe...@drizzle.com

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:04:38 -0700, Ahasuerus wrote:

> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward wrote:
>> In article <t8psis$dc$1...@reader1.panix.com>, jdni...@panix.com (James
>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>
>> > In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >"William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K.
>> > >Le Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov,
>> > >Ray Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>> >
>> > One of these things is not like the others, one of these things
>> > doesn't belong...
>> >
>> > I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
>> Just how is he uniquely unlike the others? [snip]
>
> Well, we don't know what criteria the compiler used, so we can't tell
> whether the chosen authors meet the criteria. It's like trying to answer
> the question "What do Harlan Ellison, Roger Zelazny, George Alec
> Effinger, Lois McMaster Bujold and R. A. MacAvoy have in common?"

He might be going by being known outside the fandom bubble. William
Gibson has the techy crowd, Jules Verne and H.G. Wells are famous authors
"claimed" by SF, Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov both became famous by
breaking out of the bubble with their books, Arthur C. Clarke broke out
with books and then exploded with the movies, Ursula K.Le Guin has
academia, Ray Bradbury broke out with books has academia and TV and
movies, Frank Herbert has Dune and all the multimedia chaos around it,
Philip K. Dick has movies and some academia, and John Ringo seems to be
much more popular outside the field than he is in it.

But even then it is a strange list and I would have dropped at least
three names to get King,Tolkien and Martin on it.

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 7:58:26 PM UTC-4, Tony Nance wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward wrote:
> > In article <t8psis$dc$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
> > jdni...@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > > Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >"William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
> > > >Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
> > > >Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
> > >
> > > One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't
> > > belong...
> > >
> > > I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
> >
> > Just how is he uniquely unlike the others?
> From the original post:
> "In this article,
> we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
> go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
> big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
> the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
> of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time.."
>
> While Ringo is definitely well known and successful (and more power
> to him and anyone else who can say that), it does seem odd to me that
> the article-writer sees Ringo as one of the best, and/or one of the most
> impactful, and/or as having written one/some of the top sci fi books of
> all time.
>
> But in the end, these are just my opinions running counter to the
> article-writer's opinions.

Precisely. The author says "impacted the field most strongly", but he
doesn't say how he calculated each author's impact. There are a lot
different ways to do it. I would probably list Burroughs, Stapledon,
Doc Smith, van Vogt, Leinster, Orwell, Lovecraft, Bester, Norton,
Silverberg, Wyndham, Sturgeon, Leiber, Anderson, Wolfe, Niven,
Zelazny and a bunch of other people before I got to Ringo, but I'd
need to come up with quantifiable criteria in order to make the
ratings meaningful. Something like
http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:FAQ#How_do_I_use_the_ISFDB_to_find_the_most_popular.2Facclaimed_SF_works.3F

On 6/20/2022 7:02 PM, Magewolf wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:04:38 -0700, Ahasuerus wrote:
>
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward wrote:
>>> In article <t8psis$dc$1...@reader1.panix.com>, jdni...@panix.com (James
>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K.
>>>>> Le Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov,
>>>>> Ray Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>>>>
>>>> One of these things is not like the others, one of these things
>>>> doesn't belong...
>>>>
>>>> I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
>>> Just how is he uniquely unlike the others? [snip]
>>
>> Well, we don't know what criteria the compiler used, so we can't tell
>> whether the chosen authors meet the criteria. It's like trying to answer
>> the question "What do Harlan Ellison, Roger Zelazny, George Alec
>> Effinger, Lois McMaster Bujold and R. A. MacAvoy have in common?"
>
> He might be going by being known outside the fandom bubble. William
> Gibson has the techy crowd, Jules Verne and H.G. Wells are famous authors
> "claimed" by SF, Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov both became famous by
> breaking out of the bubble with their books, Arthur C. Clarke broke out
> with books and then exploded with the movies, Ursula K.Le Guin has
> academia, Ray Bradbury broke out with books has academia and TV and
> movies, Frank Herbert has Dune and all the multimedia chaos around it,
> Philip K. Dick has movies and some academia, and John Ringo seems to be
> much more popular outside the field than he is in it.
>
> But even then it is a strange list and I would have dropped at least
> three names to get King,Tolkien and Martin on it.

King is Horror, Tolkien and Martin are Fantasy.

--
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dirty old man.

On 6/20/2022 9:02 PM, Magewolf wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:04:38 -0700, Ahasuerus wrote:
>
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward wrote:
>>> In article <t8psis$dc$1...@reader1.panix.com>, jdni...@panix.com (James
>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K.
>>>>> Le Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov,
>>>>> Ray Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>>>>
>>>> One of these things is not like the others, one of these things
>>>> doesn't belong...
>>>>
>>>> I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
>>> Just how is he uniquely unlike the others? [snip]
>>
>> Well, we don't know what criteria the compiler used, so we can't tell
>> whether the chosen authors meet the criteria. It's like trying to answer
>> the question "What do Harlan Ellison, Roger Zelazny, George Alec
>> Effinger, Lois McMaster Bujold and R. A. MacAvoy have in common?"
>
> He might be going by being known outside the fandom bubble. William
> Gibson has the techy crowd, Jules Verne and H.G. Wells are famous authors
> "claimed" by SF, Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov both became famous by
> breaking out of the bubble with their books, Arthur C. Clarke broke out
> with books and then exploded with the movies, Ursula K.Le Guin has
> academia, Ray Bradbury broke out with books has academia and TV and
> movies, Frank Herbert has Dune and all the multimedia chaos around it,
> Philip K. Dick has movies and some academia, and John Ringo seems to be
> much more popular outside the field than he is in it.
>
> But even then it is a strange list and I would have dropped at least
> three names to get King,Tolkien and Martin on it.

Never drop. My top ten SF book list has over twenty books on it.

Lynn

On 6/20/2022 11:24 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 6/20/2022 7:02 PM, Magewolf wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:04:38 -0700, Ahasuerus wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward wrote:
>>>> In article <t8psis$dc$1...@reader1.panix.com>, jdni...@panix.com (James
>>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K.
>>>>>> Le Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov,
>>>>>> Ray Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>>>>>
>>>>> One of these things is not like the others, one of these things
>>>>> doesn't belong...
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
>>>> Just how is he uniquely unlike the others?  [snip]
>>>
>>> Well, we don't know what criteria the compiler used, so we can't tell
>>> whether the chosen authors meet the criteria. It's like trying to answer
>>> the question "What do Harlan Ellison, Roger Zelazny, George Alec
>>> Effinger, Lois McMaster Bujold and R. A. MacAvoy have in common?"
>>
>> He might be going by being known outside the fandom bubble.  William
>> Gibson has the techy crowd, Jules Verne and H.G. Wells are famous authors
>> "claimed" by SF, Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov both became famous by
>> breaking out of the bubble with their books, Arthur C. Clarke broke out
>> with books and then exploded with the movies, Ursula K.Le Guin has
>> academia, Ray Bradbury broke out with books has academia and TV and
>> movies, Frank Herbert has Dune and all the multimedia chaos around it,
>> Philip K. Dick has movies and some academia, and John Ringo seems to be
>> much more popular outside the field than he is in it.
>>
>> But even then it is a strange list and I would have dropped at least
>> three names to get King,Tolkien and Martin on it.
>
> King is Horror, Tolkien and Martin are Fantasy.

Horror is Dark Fantasy.
http://leepers.us/evelyn/faqs/sf-written.htm

Lynn

On 21.06.22 1:15, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 6/20/2022 6:04 PM, Ahasuerus wrote:
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward wrote:
>>> In article <t8psis$dc$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
>>> jdni...@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
>>>>> Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
>>>>> Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>>>>
>>>> One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't
>>>> belong...
>>>>
>>>> I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
>>> Just how is he uniquely unlike the others? [snip]
>>
>> Well, we don't know what criteria the compiler used, so we
>> can't tell whether the chosen authors meet the criteria. It's like
>> trying to answer the question "What do Harlan Ellison, Roger
>> Zelazny, George Alec Effinger, Lois McMaster Bujold and
>> R. A. MacAvoy have in common?"
>
> They all breathed air on a fairly regular basis.
>
> Lynn
>
The names share ASCII chars,

On 6/20/2022 1:10 PM, Andrew McDowell wrote:
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 4:09:03 PM UTC+1, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 10:08:55 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> “10 Famous Science Fiction Authors”
>>> https://studyfy.com/blog/the-10-best-sci-fi-authors-of-all-time
>>>
>>> “Science fiction is one of the most popular genres of entertainment in
>>> the world today. It has grown from a niche interest 100 years ago into a
>>> multibillion-dollar industry. Now almost every single person on the
>>> planet has either read or watched something related to science fiction.
>>> Its importance is only going to grow in the future. In this article,
>>> we’ll take a look at some of the best sci-fi authors of all time. We’ll
>>> go back to the beginnings of science fiction. We’ll take a look at the
>>> big three of science fiction. We’ll cover the writers who have impacted
>>> the field most strongly. Along this journey, you will come across some
>>> of their best works which are considered the top sci fi books of all time.”
>>>
>>> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K. Le
>>> Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov, Ray
>>> Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>> I have read 10/11 of those authors which is better than I usually do with these lists. Perhaps they have a Ringo book at the library...
>
> I can wholeheartedly recommend the Looking Glass series, of which Ringo is a co-author for some and I think only author for others.

I am sorry, I confused the Looking Glass series and the Council Wars
series. You are correct, the Looking Glass series is freaking awesome.
It is the Council Wars series that I feel like was not finished.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074CJ3P3M

Of course, I will always take new books in a series, even if it has been
20 years.

Lynn

On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 12:52:32 AM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 6/20/2022 11:24 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> > On 6/20/2022 7:02 PM, Magewolf wrote:
> >>
> >> But even then it is a strange list and I would have dropped at least
> >> three names to get King,Tolkien and Martin on it.
> >
> > King is Horror, Tolkien and Martin are Fantasy.
> Horror is Dark Fantasy.
> http://leepers.us/evelyn/faqs/sf-written.htm

But still, the list calls for science fiction.
Of which, Martin has written some in the '70s and '80s, at least.
This makes him, like Arthur Conan Doyle or Carl Sagan, a science fiction writer, even a science fiction writer who is famous and/or influential. Whether you would call any of them a famous or influential science fiction writer is what makes for interesting debate.

--
-Jack

In article <t8rh6k$hrd$1@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 6/20/2022 7:02 PM, Magewolf wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:04:38 -0700, Ahasuerus wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Robert Woodward wrote:
>>>> In article <t8psis$dc$1...@reader1.panix.com>, jdni...@panix.com (James
>>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <t8ooc1$kv2$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "William Gibson, Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, Robert Heinlein, Ursula K.
>>>>>> Le Guin, Arthur C. Clarke, Frank Herbert, John Ringo, Isaac Asimov,
>>>>>> Ray Bradbury, and Philip K. Dick."
>>>>>
>>>>> One of these things is not like the others, one of these things
>>>>> doesn't belong...
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume Ringo is the curator's friend?
>>>> Just how is he uniquely unlike the others? [snip]
>>>
>>> Well, we don't know what criteria the compiler used, so we can't tell
>>> whether the chosen authors meet the criteria. It's like trying to answer
>>> the question "What do Harlan Ellison, Roger Zelazny, George Alec
>>> Effinger, Lois McMaster Bujold and R. A. MacAvoy have in common?"
>>
>> He might be going by being known outside the fandom bubble. William
>> Gibson has the techy crowd, Jules Verne and H.G. Wells are famous authors
>> "claimed" by SF, Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov both became famous by
>> breaking out of the bubble with their books, Arthur C. Clarke broke out
>> with books and then exploded with the movies, Ursula K.Le Guin has
>> academia, Ray Bradbury broke out with books has academia and TV and
>> movies, Frank Herbert has Dune and all the multimedia chaos around it,
>> Philip K. Dick has movies and some academia, and John Ringo seems to be
>> much more popular outside the field than he is in it.
>>
>> But even then it is a strange list and I would have dropped at least
>> three names to get King,Tolkien and Martin on it.
>
>King is Horror, Tolkien and Martin are Fantasy.
>
Martin had his Thousand Worlds, although I don't think he's had a story in
that setting for a while:

Dying of the Light (novel)
Tuff Voyaging (fix-up)

A Song for Lya
And Seven Times Never Kill Man
Bitterblooms
Dark, Dark Were the Tunnels
In the House of the Worm
Men of Greywater Station
Nightflyers
Sandkings
Starlady
The Glass Flower
The Hero
The Stone City
This Tower of Ashes
Warship (with with George Guthridge)
With Morning Comes Mistfall

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