On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:13:51 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:11:30 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 4:27:19 PM UTC-7, Pluted Pup wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 22:15:25 -0700, Pluted Pup wrote
> > > > (in article<0001HW.290110ED0...@news.giganews.com>):
> > > > > On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:43:19 -0700, Jeffrey Rubard wrote
> > > > > (in article<ef568055-6fe1-4cbf...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 2:20:39 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 2:14:43 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:34:25 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 1:59:16 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:42:23 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 9:46:50 PM UTC-7, Robert Woodward
> > > > rote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > In article<0053de6a-458f-456f...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 3:40:20 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Ruba
> > > > d wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 2:23:35 PM UTC-7, The Horny
> > > > Goat wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 11:02:05 -0700, Pluted Pup <plut...@ou
> > > > look.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 15:40:34 -0700, Jeffrey Rubard wrote
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (in article<07be0792-6f9c-42da...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Keep the Aspidistra Flying* was about as mu
> > > > h to me,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > though, so maybe I don't know enough here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (I always say I never read *A Clergyman's Daug
> > > > ter*, but I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not sure, I guess.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is pretty obvious that your explanation of Or
> > > > ell's Spain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years is "misdirective", though.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ("Was Abraham Lincoln in the 'Abraham Lincoln Br
> > > > gade'?" kinda
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stuff.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "What about *Burmese Days*?"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was not 100% important for me, no.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Such, Such Were the Joys* was another good one, tho
> > > > gh.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I don't know that you would think *Down and Out in
> > > > Paris and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > London* was "pluted", but I liked that one too as a pr
> > > > teen.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I´ve read that, but I haven´t read Road to Wagon Pie
> > > > yet.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't read that one either but I >HAVE< read The Road
> > > > to Wigan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pier (both halves of the book - the second is REALLY bleak
> > > > though in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my opinion it wasn't as good as Homage to Catalonia or Nin
> > > > teen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eighty-Four (the correct spelling - NOT the number dammit!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, there was an Orwell before the dystopian science ficti
> > > > n, and what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > he was was a "major adherent" of the Independent Labour Part
> > > > (which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > he formally quit at some point in the... 1930s?) It was as a
> > > > British
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > socialist
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of an anti-Leninist tenor that he was "working with" POUM gr
> > > > ups in Spain,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "opposite to" American CPUSA members who joined with the PCE
> > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > part of the "Abraham Lincoln Brigade".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ahem."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those are, uh, the facts of the matter.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Hemingway was in the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, but I'm
> > > > ot sure.
> > > > > > > > > > > > He was a reporter for a newspaper syndicate, North America Newsp
> > > > per
> > > > > > > > > > > > Alliance (acquired by United Feature Syndicate in 1972).
> > > > > > > > > > > Oh, yeah, sure.
> > > > > > > > > > "And Orwell was..."
> > > > > > > > > > A leading light of the UK social-democratic left? Or are we "high" r
> > > > ght now?
> > > > > > > > > "I don't think so."
> > > > > > > > > Could you offer a *plausible* alternate suggestion, broadening the com
> > > > on idea that he had a "change of heart" around the time of 1984 and Animal Farm?
> > > > > > > > > "Common idea?"
> > > > > > > > > Maybe he didn't, really.
> > > > > > > > > "That's hardly likely."
> > > > > > > > > What is the particular probability metric that drives such seemingly-u
> > > > informed but highly definite suggestions?
> > > > > > > > "Um?
> > > > > > > > Like, why would you figure you knew better than other people about a top
> > > > c they were perhaps better-informed about?
> > > > > > > Is it more like you're really set on disseminating a "canard" to a particu
> > > > ar purpose, and an alternate conjecture
> > > > > > > (or one which is really not conjecture at all) shows you up?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, I really do think so. "A. Militia" is something ordered to suit in som
> > > > to-me-obscure context, and hardly adequate
> > > > > > as regards discussing Orwell's Spain experience or the trajectory of the his
> > > > orical events themselves. It seems like
> > > > > > a "hurdy-gurdy" of a sort of sinister character.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Orwell fought in a militia in Spain"
> > > > > "Which militia?"
> > > > > "His militia was the POUM's"
> > > > >
> > > > > That's how the grammar works.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I've read his negative review of a ghost-like novel by
> > > > > Graham Green and it made me curious so I read it. It's
> > > > > just not the sort of stuff that Orwell likes.
> > > > Not a Ghost Novel, but a Mystery, that had a ghost-like element
> > > > in it.
> > > Americans also don't "capitalize" words in that fashion -- it makes them "feyly" unbelievable.
> > > "Oh, I'm feyly believable."
> > > Yeah, about that...
> > Just generally, if you think there is a "classic con" involving British novels... well...
> > It's not "key" to their mythology.
> Like there could be a "key to all the mythologies", anyway.

(The *New Science* sure doesn't count, that's for sure.)