On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > Zod wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 10:08:04 AM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 10:04:12 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > > > >>>>> postpoetry
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> & if a poet points that out
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> what else to do what else to say
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> ~~
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> > > > > >> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >> > > > > >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
> > > > > >> > > > > >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
> > > > > >> > > > > >> speaker of the poem needs.
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
> > > > > >> > > > > I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
> > > > > >> > > > > muse?
> > > > > >> > > > > > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
> > > > > >> > > > > Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
> > > > > >> > > > > > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
> > > > > >> > > > > It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
> > > > > >> > > > > > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
> > > > > >> > > > > No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
> > > > > >> > > > > not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
> > > > > >> > > > > >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
> > > > > >> > > > > >> teacher we once had here:
> > > > > >> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > > > >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > > >> > > > > > That saying has been used too much here.
> > > > > >> > > > > Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
> > > > > >> > > > > > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity..
> > > > > >> > > > > Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
> > > > > >> > > > NancyGene doesn't even remember what country London is in, remember..
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Dockery has lived as and will die
> > > > > >> And you will be obsessed with him to your last breath, right, Jim Senetto, you silly old fart...?
> > > > >
> > > > > > You're the only one obsessed
> > > > > Bullshit, or rather, monkey shit, from Michael Pendragon, noted.
> > > > Come on, Donkey. Stink sniffs after your ever post -- with his tongue hanging out and ready to slurp.
> > > Only in your fantasies, little monkey
> > It's in the archives, Donkey. 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> Wow, looks like a Pendragon melt down...!

I know, right?

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