On 6/06/2022 4:42 pm, Max wrote:
> On 6/06/2022 4:31 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Ozix wrote
>>>> Max wrote
>>
>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>
>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides
>>>>> there should be a republic.
>>
>>>>  You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't you?
>>
>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999.  I would vote No because now I
>>> realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool being our
>>> head of state.
>>
>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>
>
> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the same
> system of government and laws,

No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.

Our system is unique.

On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 20:36:33 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

> Petzl wrote on 6/6/22 12:41 pm:
>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to vote a duopoly last you can't unless the
>>>>>>>>>> oddity that you vote for gets 50% of the vote first count,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Corse you can if you vote below the line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you don't no the way preferences work!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are the one with that problem, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your vote goes downhill ,assuming none achieve a vote of over 50%,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure
>>>>>>> that neither of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> your last box preferences take over and takes over going downhill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure
>>>>>>> that neither of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again assuming no selected preference is achieve a vote of over
>>>>>>>> 50%
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> last box, preferences take over with ALL votes gathered going down
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> preference drain again till they end up in the duopolies rectum!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That last never happens if you don't include those in your voting
>>>>>>> below
>>>>>>> the line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad you are sure!
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you wanted to vote BELOW THE LINE, Petzl, you could have awarded
>>>>> your
>>>>> any of your twelve preferences to .....
>>>>>
>>>>> Three Animal Justice Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Three TNL candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Citizens Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Sustainable Australia Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Eight The Greens candidates, or,
>>>>> Two ungrouped candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Reason Australia candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Socialist Alliance candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Federal ICAC Now candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Australian Democrats candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Indigenous - Aboriginal Party of Australia candidates, or,
>>>>> Four Shooter, Fishers and Farmers Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Seniors United Party of Australia candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Informed Medical Options Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Two The Great Australian Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Legalise Cannabis Australia candidates, or,
>>>>> Two FUSION, Science, Pirate, Secular, Climate Emergency, candidates,
>>>>> or,
>>>>> Three Pauline Hanson's One Nation candidates, or,
>>>>> Four Liberal Democrats candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Australian Values Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Six United Australia Party candidates, and,
>>>>> Five Independent candidates.
>>>>>
>>>>> So heaps and Heaps of N.S.W. Senate candidates (69) wanting to get
>>>>> any
>>>>> of your twelve preference votes, Petzl, before you have to go
>>>>> anywhere
>>>>> near the LNP or ALP, Petzl!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I'm sure some of those Party's ideologies might disagree
>>>>> with
>>>>> your ideologies, Petzl!
>>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't mater unless one of the/your above selections got above 50%
>>>> your preference would go down to your option on vote.
>>>> When or IF your vote gets to the last number on that list, ALL that
>>>> last number on list preferences take over, and so-on till the last
>>>> number on that list collection of votes etc.
>>>> Eventually ALL votes end up,mainly, in Labor or Coalition
>>>
>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>> the last preference, preferences,
>> Till they end up in Labor/Coalition.
>>
>>>
>>>> that gives them over the 50% to Senate or HoR.
>>>
>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>
>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>> the last preference, preferences,

> Where have you gotten this from, Petzl,

That shit rag the TerrorGraph most likely.

> cause as I and Rod understand the system, YOU are wrong!!

Yes he is.

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

>>> Why not just live it up, watching TV,

>> You ever checked what is broadcast in the daytime ?

> Yeah, but if you've recorded some half decent stuff from the previous
> evening .... and you get to Fast-Forward through the Ads as well!! ;-)

e3But even then, for many there isn't likely to be enough
to fill in the day better than a job you enjoy.

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Max wrote

>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to Thistlethwaite) is
>> ridiculous, when the question of a republic needs to be decided by
>> referendum.

>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides
>> there should be a republic.

> IMHO, a Republic vote could only ever succeed if the 'correct' format of
> a Republic is placed in front of the Voters.
>
> If the option is
> a. STAY A MONARCHY, or,
> b. SWITCH TO A REPUBLIC WHERE THE *PARLIAMENT* SELECTS THE PRESIDENT
>
> I doubt that'll get up but ...
>
> If the option is
> a. STAY A MONARCHY, or,
> b. SWITCH TO A REPUBLIC WHERE THE *PEOPLE* VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENT
>
> that might get up! .... MIGHT!!

And it depends on what power the president has.

Unlikely to get up if the prez is anything like the US one but might
if the prez has no real power like with Eire or New Zealand.

But then you do have to ask why bother with the expensive of having a prez
at all.

It also depends on how spectacularly Big Ears fucks up
and whether the poms have enough of a clue to bin him.

On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 20:30:06 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

>Petzl wrote on 6/6/22 9:17 am:
>> On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 22:47:24 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/06/2022 10:45 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> Petzl wrote on 2/6/22 4:02 pm:
>>>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 15:23:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you wish to vote a duopoly last you can't unless
>>>>>>>>> the oddity that you vote for gets 50% of the vote
>>>>>>>>> first count,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Corse you can if you vote below the line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you don't no the way preferences work!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are the one with that problem, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your vote goes downhill ,assuming none achieve a vote of
>>>>>>> over 50%,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure that neither
>>>>>> of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> your last box preferences take over and takes over going
>>>>>>> downhill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure that neither
>>>>>> of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again assuming no selected preference is achieve a vote of
>>>>>>> over 50% in last box, preferences take over with ALL votes
>>>>>>> gathered going down the preference drain again till they
>>>>>>> end up in the duopolies rectum!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That last never happens if you don't include those in your
>>>>>> voting below the line.
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad you are sure!
>>>>>
>>>> If you wanted to vote BELOW THE LINE, Petzl, you could have
>>>> awarded your any of your twelve preferences to .....
>>>>
>>>> Three Animal Justice Party candidates, or, Three TNL candidates,
>>>> or, Three Citizens Party candidates, or, Three Sustainable
>>>> Australia Party candidates, or, Eight The Greens candidates, or,
>>>> Two ungrouped candidates, or, Three Reason Australia candidates,
>>>> or, Three Socialist Alliance candidates, or, Two Federal ICAC Now
>>>> candidates, or, Three Australian Democrats candidates, or, Two
>>>> Indigenous - Aboriginal Party of Australia candidates, or, Four
>>>> Shooter, Fishers and Farmers Party candidates, or, Two Seniors
>>>> United Party of Australia candidates, or, Two Informed Medical
>>>> Options Party candidates, or, Two The Great Australian Party
>>>> candidates, or, Two Legalise Cannabis Australia candidates, or,
>>>> Two FUSION, Science, Pirate, Secular, Climate Emergency,
>>>> candidates, or, Three Pauline Hanson's One Nation candidates,
>>>> or, Four Liberal Democrats candidates, or, Two Australian Values
>>>> Party candidates, or, Six United Australia Party candidates,
>>>> and, Five Independent candidates.
>>>>
>>>> So heaps and Heaps of N.S.W. Senate candidates (69) wanting to
>>>> get any of your twelve preference votes, Petzl, before you have
>>>> to go anywhere near the LNP or ALP, Petzl!!
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I'm sure some of those Party's ideologies might
>>>> disagree with your ideologies, Petzl!
>>>
>>> Don't their preferences all end up flowing to one of the major
>>> parties?
>>>
>> Most often
>>
>No, once your preferences have been used up, your ballot paper is
>expired .... or exhausted .... or whatever the correct word is!!
>
Becomes a *Exhausted vote*
--
Petzl
Make Australia Great Again
MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 20:36:33 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

>Petzl wrote on 6/6/22 12:41 pm:
>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to vote a duopoly last you can't unless the
>>>>>>>>>> oddity that you vote for gets 50% of the vote first count,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Corse you can if you vote below the line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you don't no the way preferences work!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are the one with that problem, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your vote goes downhill ,assuming none achieve a vote of over 50%,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure
>>>>>>> that neither of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> your last box preferences take over and takes over going downhill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure
>>>>>>> that neither of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again assuming no selected preference is achieve a vote of over 50%
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> last box, preferences take over with ALL votes gathered going down
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> preference drain again till they end up in the duopolies rectum!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That last never happens if you don't include those in your voting
>>>>>>> below
>>>>>>> the line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad you are sure!
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you wanted to vote BELOW THE LINE, Petzl, you could have awarded your
>>>>> any of your twelve preferences to .....
>>>>>
>>>>> Three Animal Justice Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Three TNL candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Citizens Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Sustainable Australia Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Eight The Greens candidates, or,
>>>>> Two ungrouped candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Reason Australia candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Socialist Alliance candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Federal ICAC Now candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Australian Democrats candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Indigenous - Aboriginal Party of Australia candidates, or,
>>>>> Four Shooter, Fishers and Farmers Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Seniors United Party of Australia candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Informed Medical Options Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Two The Great Australian Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Legalise Cannabis Australia candidates, or,
>>>>> Two FUSION, Science, Pirate, Secular, Climate Emergency, candidates, or,
>>>>> Three Pauline Hanson's One Nation candidates, or,
>>>>> Four Liberal Democrats candidates, or,
>>>>> Two Australian Values Party candidates, or,
>>>>> Six United Australia Party candidates, and,
>>>>> Five Independent candidates.
>>>>>
>>>>> So heaps and Heaps of N.S.W. Senate candidates (69) wanting to get any
>>>>> of your twelve preference votes, Petzl, before you have to go anywhere
>>>>> near the LNP or ALP, Petzl!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I'm sure some of those Party's ideologies might disagree with
>>>>> your ideologies, Petzl!
>>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't mater unless one of the/your above selections got above 50%
>>>> your preference would go down to your option on vote.
>>>> When or IF your vote gets to the last number on that list, ALL that
>>>> last number on list preferences take over, and so-on till the last
>>>> number on that list collection of votes etc.
>>>> Eventually ALL votes end up,mainly, in Labor or Coalition
>>>
>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>
>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>> the last preference, preferences,
>> Till they end up in Labor/Coalition.
>>
>>>
>>>> that gives them over the 50% to Senate or HoR.
>>>
>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>
>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>> the last preference, preferences,
>
>Where have you gotten this from, Petzl, cause as I and Rod understand
>the system, YOU are wrong!!

Might of been changed for this election?
Before parties/candidates allocated preferences.
--
Petzl
Make Australia Great Again
MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 04:19:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 20:36:33 +1000, Daniel65
><daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>> Petzl wrote on 6/6/22 12:41 pm:
>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to vote a duopoly last you can't unless the
>>>>>>>>>>> oddity that you vote for gets 50% of the vote first count,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Corse you can if you vote below the line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you don't no the way preferences work!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are the one with that problem, as always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your vote goes downhill ,assuming none achieve a vote of over 50%,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure
>>>>>>>> that neither of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> your last box preferences take over and takes over going downhill.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure
>>>>>>>> that neither of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Again assuming no selected preference is achieve a vote of over
>>>>>>>>> 50%
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> last box, preferences take over with ALL votes gathered going down
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> preference drain again till they end up in the duopolies rectum!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That last never happens if you don't include those in your voting
>>>>>>>> below
>>>>>>>> the line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glad you are sure!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you wanted to vote BELOW THE LINE, Petzl, you could have awarded
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> any of your twelve preferences to .....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Three Animal Justice Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three TNL candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Citizens Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Sustainable Australia Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Eight The Greens candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two ungrouped candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Reason Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Socialist Alliance candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Federal ICAC Now candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Australian Democrats candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Indigenous - Aboriginal Party of Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>> Four Shooter, Fishers and Farmers Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Seniors United Party of Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Informed Medical Options Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two The Great Australian Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Legalise Cannabis Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two FUSION, Science, Pirate, Secular, Climate Emergency, candidates,
>>>>>> or,
>>>>>> Three Pauline Hanson's One Nation candidates, or,
>>>>>> Four Liberal Democrats candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Australian Values Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Six United Australia Party candidates, and,
>>>>>> Five Independent candidates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So heaps and Heaps of N.S.W. Senate candidates (69) wanting to get
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> of your twelve preference votes, Petzl, before you have to go
>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>> near the LNP or ALP, Petzl!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, I'm sure some of those Party's ideologies might disagree
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> your ideologies, Petzl!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't mater unless one of the/your above selections got above 50%
>>>>> your preference would go down to your option on vote.
>>>>> When or IF your vote gets to the last number on that list, ALL that
>>>>> last number on list preferences take over, and so-on till the last
>>>>> number on that list collection of votes etc.
>>>>> Eventually ALL votes end up,mainly, in Labor or Coalition
>>>>
>>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>>> the last preference, preferences,
>>> Till they end up in Labor/Coalition.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> that gives them over the 50% to Senate or HoR.
>>>>
>>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>>
>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>>> the last preference, preferences,
>
>> Where have you gotten this from, Petzl,
>
>That shit rag the TerrorGraph most likely.
>
False

>> cause as I and Rod understand the system, YOU are wrong!!
>
>Yes he is.

That will be the first time!
The next thing I got right is
With Labor in you're going to end up with a depression the likes of
which you've never seen. You'll be lucky If you end up with a country
at all.
--
Petzl
Australian's continue to vote for and believe slogans?

"My first act as Prime Minister will be to raise the speed limit, lower the
fines, cancel the tolls. ban any future virus lock downs.
Thank you " Anthony Albanese

On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 22:12:55 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>>>>
>>>> Of course, I'm sure some of those Party's ideologies might disagree with
>>>> your ideologies, Petzl!
>>>>
>>> Wouldn't mater unless one of the/your above selections got above 50%
>>> your preference would go down to your option on vote.
>>
>> Once your list of preferences is exhausted, your vote is exhausted!!
>>
>> END OF .....
>
>Our resident village idiot doens't even know how the Senaotrs get
>elected. Try explaining to him the quota that applies to the Senators
>in order for them to get elected but good luck with that getting through
>to him. For some reason our resident moron keeps on mentioning 50%.
>He's a waste of oxygen given how clueless he is.
>
see from the page of the head dumb one.
She has a hernia when a smart one speaks.
--
Petzl
We know the Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying.
"Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn"

Tue, 07 Jun 2022 08:46:58 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 20:36:33 +1000, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>> Petzl wrote on 6/6/22 12:41 pm:
>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to vote a duopoly last you can't unless the
>>>>>>>>>>> oddity that you vote for gets 50% of the vote first count,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Corse you can if you vote below the line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you don't no the way preferences work!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are the one with that problem, as always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your vote goes downhill ,assuming none achieve a vote of over
>>>>>>>>> 50%,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure
>>>>>>>> that neither of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> your last box preferences take over and takes over going
>>>>>>>>> downhill.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure
>>>>>>>> that neither of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Again assuming no selected preference is achieve a vote of over
>>>>>>>>> 50%
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> last box, preferences take over with ALL votes gathered going
>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> preference drain again till they end up in the duopolies rectum!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That last never happens if you don't include those in your voting
>>>>>>>> below
>>>>>>>> the line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glad you are sure!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you wanted to vote BELOW THE LINE, Petzl, you could have awarded
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> any of your twelve preferences to .....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Three Animal Justice Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three TNL candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Citizens Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Sustainable Australia Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Eight The Greens candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two ungrouped candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Reason Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Socialist Alliance candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Federal ICAC Now candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Australian Democrats candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Indigenous - Aboriginal Party of Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>> Four Shooter, Fishers and Farmers Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Seniors United Party of Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Informed Medical Options Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two The Great Australian Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Legalise Cannabis Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two FUSION, Science, Pirate, Secular, Climate Emergency,
>>>>>> candidates, or,
>>>>>> Three Pauline Hanson's One Nation candidates, or,
>>>>>> Four Liberal Democrats candidates, or,
>>>>>> Two Australian Values Party candidates, or,
>>>>>> Six United Australia Party candidates, and,
>>>>>> Five Independent candidates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So heaps and Heaps of N.S.W. Senate candidates (69) wanting to get
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> of your twelve preference votes, Petzl, before you have to go
>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>> near the LNP or ALP, Petzl!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, I'm sure some of those Party's ideologies might disagree
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> your ideologies, Petzl!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't mater unless one of the/your above selections got above 50%
>>>>> your preference would go down to your option on vote.
>>>>> When or IF your vote gets to the last number on that list, ALL that
>>>>> last number on list preferences take over, and so-on till the last
>>>>> number on that list collection of votes etc.
>>>>> Eventually ALL votes end up,mainly, in Labor or Coalition
>>>>
>>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>
>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>>> the last preference, preferences,
>>> Till they end up in Labor/Coalition.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> that gives them over the 50% to Senate or HoR.
>>>>
>>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>>
>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>>> the last preference, preferences,
>>
>> Where have you gotten this from, Petzl, cause as I and Rod understand
>> the system, YOU are wrong!!
>
> Might of been changed for this election?

Nope.

> Before parties/candidates allocated preferences.

But that is for those who vote above the line.

On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 22:22:24 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>On 6/06/2022 4:42 pm, Max wrote:
>> On 6/06/2022 4:31 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>> Max wrote
>>>
>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>
>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides
>>>>>> there should be a republic.
>>>
>>>>>  You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't you?
>>>
>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999.  I would vote No because now I
>>>> realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool being our
>>>> head of state.
>>>
>>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the same
>> system of government and laws,
>
>No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.
>
>Our system is unique.

Australia's system of government is imaginatively described as a
'Washminster' mutation, transplanting the federal system from the
United States onto the Westminster system of responsible parliamentary
government.
--
Petzl
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions,
the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 08:53:47 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 04:19:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 20:36:33 +1000, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Petzl wrote on 6/6/22 12:41 pm:
>>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to vote a duopoly last you can't unless the
>>>>>>>>>>>> oddity that you vote for gets 50% of the vote first count,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Corse you can if you vote below the line.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you don't no the way preferences work!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are the one with that problem, as always.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your vote goes downhill ,assuming none achieve a vote of over
>>>>>>>>>> 50%,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure
>>>>>>>>> that neither of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> your last box preferences take over and takes over going
>>>>>>>>>> downhill.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure
>>>>>>>>> that neither of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Again assuming no selected preference is achieve a vote of over
>>>>>>>>>> 50%
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> last box, preferences take over with ALL votes gathered going
>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> preference drain again till they end up in the duopolies rectum!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That last never happens if you don't include those in your voting
>>>>>>>>> below
>>>>>>>>> the line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Glad you are sure!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you wanted to vote BELOW THE LINE, Petzl, you could have awarded
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> any of your twelve preferences to .....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Three Animal Justice Party candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Three TNL candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Three Citizens Party candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Three Sustainable Australia Party candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Eight The Greens candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Two ungrouped candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Three Reason Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Three Socialist Alliance candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Two Federal ICAC Now candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Three Australian Democrats candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Two Indigenous - Aboriginal Party of Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Four Shooter, Fishers and Farmers Party candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Two Seniors United Party of Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Two Informed Medical Options Party candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Two The Great Australian Party candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Two Legalise Cannabis Australia candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Two FUSION, Science, Pirate, Secular, Climate Emergency,
>>>>>>> candidates,
>>>>>>> or,
>>>>>>> Three Pauline Hanson's One Nation candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Four Liberal Democrats candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Two Australian Values Party candidates, or,
>>>>>>> Six United Australia Party candidates, and,
>>>>>>> Five Independent candidates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So heaps and Heaps of N.S.W. Senate candidates (69) wanting to get
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> of your twelve preference votes, Petzl, before you have to go
>>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>>> near the LNP or ALP, Petzl!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, I'm sure some of those Party's ideologies might disagree
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> your ideologies, Petzl!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wouldn't mater unless one of the/your above selections got above 50%
>>>>>> your preference would go down to your option on vote.
>>>>>> When or IF your vote gets to the last number on that list, ALL that
>>>>>> last number on list preferences take over, and so-on till the last
>>>>>> number on that list collection of votes etc.
>>>>>> Eventually ALL votes end up,mainly, in Labor or Coalition
>>>>>
>>>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW
>>>> THE
>>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>>>> the last preference, preferences,
>>>> Till they end up in Labor/Coalition.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> that gives them over the 50% to Senate or HoR.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>>>
>>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>>>> the last preference, preferences,
>>
>>> Where have you gotten this from, Petzl,
>>
>> That shit rag the TerrorGraph most likely.
>>
> False
>
>>> cause as I and Rod understand the system, YOU are wrong!!
>>
>> Yes he is.

> That will be the first time!

Nope. You also mindlessly repeated the lie that Albo has never
worked in his life. He did in fact work for the ComBank for a
couple of years. And he was never a union goon either.

> The next thing I got right is
> With Labor in you're going to end up with a depression the likes of
> which you've never seen. You'll be lucky If you end up with a country
> at all.

That mindless shit was spewed by that fool Trump and wasnt about this
country.

And it isn't going to happen here anyway, we survived the Dud and Julia
and even Whitlam/Hawke/Keating and will survive Albo too, you watch.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 09:10:21 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 22:22:24 +1000, Fran
> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/06/2022 4:42 pm, Max wrote:
>>> On 6/06/2022 4:31 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides
>>>>>>> there should be a republic.
>>>>
>>>>>> You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't you?
>>>>
>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999. I would vote No because now I
>>>>> realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool being our
>>>>> head of state.
>>>>
>>>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the same
>>> system of government and laws,
>>
>> No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.
>>
>> Our system is unique.
>
> Australia's system of government is imaginatively described as a
> 'Washminster' mutation, transplanting the federal system from the
> United States onto the Westminster system of responsible parliamentary
> government.

Nope the US federal system is nothing like ours.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 09:14:26 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> that gives them over the 50% to Senate or HoR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>>>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>>>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>>>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>>>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>>>>> the last preference, preferences,
>>>
>>>> Where have you gotten this from, Petzl,
>>>
>>> That shit rag the TerrorGraph most likely.
>>>
>> False
>>
>>>> cause as I and Rod understand the system, YOU are wrong!!
>>>
>>> Yes he is.
>
>> That will be the first time!
>
>Nope. You also mindlessly repeated the lie that Albo has never
>worked in his life. He did in fact work for the ComBank for a
>couple of years. And he was never a union goon either.
>
The Com bank at the time was government, Albo joined after leaving
school, was just a Gofer emptying trash bins. The he went to
university

Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
life. Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions and then as a
pathetic politician. God knows what it will do to our country in 3
years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.

>> The next thing I got right is
>> With Labor in you're going to end up with a depression the likes of
>> which you've never seen. You'll be lucky If you end up with a country
>> at all.
>
>That mindless shit was spewed by that fool Trump and wasnt about this
>country.
>
>And it isn't going to happen here anyway, we survived the Dud and Julia
>and even Whitlam/Hawke/Keating and will survive Albo too, you watch.
>
Don't see us surviving Albo, to much like Biden
https://tinyurl.com/25zns3d4

Dutton is just as crooked put Cayman Islander Angus Taylor in as
Liberal treasurer
--
Petzl
Make Australia Great Again
MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>>>> that gives them over the 50% to Senate or HoR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW
>>>>>> THE
>>>>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>>>>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>>>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>>>>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>>>>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>>>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed
>>>>>> down the last preference, preferences,
>>>>
>>>>> Where have you gotten this from, Petzl,
>>>>
>>>> That shit rag the TerrorGraph most likely.
>>>>
>>> False
>>>
>>>>> cause as I and Rod understand the system, YOU are wrong!!
>>>>
>>>> Yes he is.
>>
>>> That will be the first time!
>>
>> Nope. You also mindlessly repeated the lie that Albo has never
>> worked in his life. He did in fact work for the ComBank for a
>> couple of years. And he was never a union goon either.

> The Com bank at the time was government,

Irrelevant to the fact that he did work for a couple of years.

> Albo joined after leaving school,

Yes.

> was just a Gofer emptying trash bins.

That's a lie and even that is still work.

> The he went to university

Yes, but that is irrelevant to your lie.

> Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
> life.

Repeating that bare faced lie changes nothing.

> Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions

Nope, never did.

> and then as a pathetic politician. God knows what it will do to our
> country in 3 years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.

We survived the dud, julia, whitlam/hawke/keating for much
longer than that except with whitlam and will survive albo too.

>>> The next thing I got right is
>>> With Labor in you're going to end up with a depression the likes of
>>> which you've never seen. You'll be lucky If you end up with a country
>>> at all.
>>
>> That mindless shit was spewed by that fool Trump and wasnt about this
>> country.
>>
>> And it isn't going to happen here anyway, we survived the Dud and Julia
>> and even Whitlam/Hawke/Keating and will survive Albo too, you watch.

> Don't see us surviving Albo,

More fool you.

> to much like Biden

Nothing even remotely like Biden except in the sense that they are both
leftys.

> https://tinyurl.com/25zns3d4

> Dutton is just as crooked put Cayman Islander Angus Taylor in as
> Liberal treasurer

Irrelevant to Albo, stupid.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 13:03:19 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>> that gives them over the 50% to Senate or HoR.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW
>>>>>>> THE
>>>>>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>>>>>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>>>>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>>>>>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>>>>>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>>>>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed
>>>>>>> down the last preference, preferences,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Where have you gotten this from, Petzl,
>>>>>
>>>>> That shit rag the TerrorGraph most likely.
>>>>>
>>>> False
>>>>
>>>>>> cause as I and Rod understand the system, YOU are wrong!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes he is.
>>>
>>>> That will be the first time!
>>>
>>> Nope. You also mindlessly repeated the lie that Albo has never
>>> worked in his life. He did in fact work for the ComBank for a
>>> couple of years. And he was never a union goon either.
>
>> The Com bank at the time was government,
>
>Irrelevant to the fact that he did work for a couple of years.
>
>> Albo joined after leaving school,
>
>Yes.
>
>> was just a Gofer emptying trash bins.
>
>That's a lie and even that is still work.
>
But not something "gee whiz""

>> The he went to university
>
>Yes, but that is irrelevant to your lie.
>
>> Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
>> life.
>
>Repeating that bare faced lie changes nothing.
>
His bio has his pesent wealth at $10 million.

>> Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions
>
>Nope, never did.
>
Albanese has never worked for a union but is respectful of their role
in the party. Most certianly used them to get his snout and roters in
the trough.

>> and then as a pathetic politician. God knows what it will do to our
>> country in 3 years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.
>
>We survived the dud, julia, whitlam/hawke/keating for much
>longer than that except with whitlam and will survive albo too.
>
Rudd as one of the best PM's ever. The backstabbers that followed him
caused Australia to fall.

>>>> The next thing I got right is
>>>> With Labor in you're going to end up with a depression the likes of
>>>> which you've never seen. You'll be lucky If you end up with a country
>>>> at all.
>>>
>>> That mindless shit was spewed by that fool Trump and wasnt about this
>>> country.
>>>
>>> And it isn't going to happen here anyway, we survived the Dud and Julia
>>> and even Whitlam/Hawke/Keating and will survive Albo too, you watch.
>
>> Don't see us surviving Albo,
>
>More fool you.
>
More fool you.

>> to much like Biden
>
>Nothing even remotely like Biden except in the sense that they are both
>leftys.
>
Albo is a pure commie Biden is a idiot commie!

>> https://tinyurl.com/25zns3d4
>
>> Dutton is just as crooked put Cayman Islander Angus Taylor in as
>> Liberal treasurer
>
>Irrelevant to Albo, stupid.
>
They are all corrupt crime gang and useless same as Biden
--
Petzl
Make Australia Great Again
MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 14:09:42 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 13:03:19 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>>> that gives them over the 50% to Senate or HoR.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not if you VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW
>>>>>>>> THE
>>>>>>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your
>>>>>>>> 12th
>>>>>>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>>>>>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that
>>>>>>>> candidates
>>>>>>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>>>>>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed
>>>>>>>> down the last preference, preferences,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where have you gotten this from, Petzl,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That shit rag the TerrorGraph most likely.
>>>>>>
>>>>> False
>>>>>
>>>>>>> cause as I and Rod understand the system, YOU are wrong!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes he is.
>>>>
>>>>> That will be the first time!
>>>>
>>>> Nope. You also mindlessly repeated the lie that Albo has never
>>>> worked in his life. He did in fact work for the ComBank for a
>>>> couple of years. And he was never a union goon either.
>>
>>> The Com bank at the time was government,
>>
>> Irrelevant to the fact that he did work for a couple of years.
>>
>>> Albo joined after leaving school,
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> was just a Gofer emptying trash bins.
>>
>> That's a lie and even that is still work.

> But not something "gee whiz""

Irrelevant, you lied that he had never worked.

>>> The he went to university
>>
>> Yes, but that is irrelevant to your lie.
>>
>>> Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
>>> life.
>>
>> Repeating that bare faced lie changes nothing.

> His bio has his pesent wealth at $10 million.

The lie was that he had never worked.

>>> Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions
>>
>> Nope, never did.

> Albanese has never worked for a union but is respectful of their role
> in the party.

That's not sponging off the taxpayers.

> Most certianly used them to get his snout and roters in the trough.

Nope, he was staff for pollys.

>>> and then as a pathetic politician. God knows what it will do to our
>>> country in 3 years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.
>>
>> We survived the dud, julia, whitlam/hawke/keating for much
>> longer than that except with whitlam and will survive albo too.

> Rudd as one of the best PM's ever.

Bullshit he was. His stupid pink batts scheme and school
halls scheme pissed vast amounts of taxpayers money
against the wall to no useful purpose what so ever. He
couldn't even manage to hang onto his own job.

> The backstabbers that followed him caused Australia to fall.

Oz never ever fell.

>>>>> The next thing I got right is
>>>>> With Labor in you're going to end up with a depression the likes of
>>>>> which you've never seen. You'll be lucky If you end up with a country
>>>>> at all.
>>>>
>>>> That mindless shit was spewed by that fool Trump and wasnt about this
>>>> country.
>>>>
>>>> And it isn't going to happen here anyway, we survived the Dud and
>>>> Julia
>>>> and even Whitlam/Hawke/Keating and will survive Albo too, you watch.
>>
>>> Don't see us surviving Albo,
>>
>> More fool you.
>>
> More fool you.
>
>>> to much like Biden
>>
>> Nothing even remotely like Biden except in the sense that they are both
>> leftys.

> Albo is a pure commie

Bullshit. None of his policys are commy at all.

> Biden is a idiot commie!

None of his policys are commy at all.

>>> https://tinyurl.com/25zns3d4
>>
>>> Dutton is just as crooked put Cayman Islander Angus Taylor in as
>>> Liberal treasurer
>>
>> Irrelevant to Albo, stupid.

> They are all corrupt crime gang and useless same as Biden

Even sillier than you usually manage with Ming and Howard.

On Monday, 6 June 2022 at 13:37:49 UTC+10, Max wrote:
> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to Thistlethwaite) is
> ridiculous, when the question of a republic needs to be decided by
> referendum.

Maybe he could answer why Australia needs to become a republic.
>
> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides there
> should be a republic.

There needs to be a debate before that. This position could help in that debate, to bring forth new ideas one way or the other.

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> Max wrote

>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to Thistlethwaite) is
>> ridiculous, when the question of a republic needs to be decided by
>> referendum.

> Maybe he could answer why Australia needs to become a republic.

It isnt about needs, its about what the majority of us want.

>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides there
>> should be a republic.

> There needs to be a debate before that. This position could help in that
> debate, to bring forth new ideas one way or the other.

There can't be new ideas with an issue like this.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 16:30:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
>> Max wrote
>
>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to Thistlethwaite) is
>>> ridiculous, when the question of a republic needs to be decided by
>>> referendum.
>
>> Maybe he could answer why Australia needs to become a republic.
>
>It isnt about needs, its about what the majority of us want.
>
Lets make Arindam Banerjee, King Arindam Banerjee
He can have King Malcolm's chair
https://imgbb.com/x2QJfmw

>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides there
>>> should be a republic.
>
>> There needs to be a debate before that. This position could help in that
>> debate, to bring forth new ideas one way or the other.
>
>There can't be new ideas with an issue like this.
>
The Monarchy has kept Australia growng since King George III.
--
Petzl
As Winston Churchill once said;

The Monarchy is important,
not for the power it wields,
but for the power it denies others.

On 6/06/2022 7:59 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>>> Max wrote
>
>>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum
>>>>>>>> decides there should be a republic.
>>>
>>>>>>>  You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't you?
>>>
>>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999.  I would vote No because now I
>>>>>> realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool being
>>>>>> our head of state.
>>>
>>>>>  So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>
>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England,
>>>  We got independence quite some time ago now.
>>>
>>>> and have the same system of government
>>>  Nope, we have a federal system, dont.
>>>  We aren't actually stupid enough to have an upper
>>> house stuffed with senile old farts and bishops etc
>>> who hardly ever bother to show up either.
>>>
>>>> and laws,
>>>  Wrong, as always.
>>>
>>>> and language.  And have very similar  culturewith regard to food,
>>>> arts, sport and religion.
>>>  Bullshit we do.
>>>
>>>> It therefore remains a good idea to keep havingthe English monarch
>>>> as  our head of state,
>>>  Bullshit it does. And that prat gets no say on anything here anyway.
>>>
>>>> until Australia is totally over-run by people who speakEnglish as a
>>>> second language and who are not Christian.
>>>  Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>
>>>> Canada have not become a republic yet.
>>>  Irrelevant.
>>>
>>>> Why do we think we are any more indepedent or better than them?
>
>>>  Because we are, and the stupid poms too.
>
>> Do you think we would be able to put on the celebrationsfor the
>> Jubilee  like the way the Poms just did?
>
> Yes we did. And much better than those stupid poms managed.
>
>> Bullshit we would.  Our's would be shithouse in comparison.
>
> You are free to bugger off there if you prefer they way they do things.
>

Maybe I will do that and I will still be able to post here, so I can
enjoy the greatness of Britain and you and everyone else will have to
sit there in the shithole that Australia is and suffer.

Have fun watching Eddie McGuire and other Aussie fuckwits.

>>>> It's only because of fuckwits like Turnbull that anyone does think
>>>> that.
>>>  Wrong, as always. There have always been plenty that have
>>> seen no sense in having some stupid pom as the head of
>>> state even before that fool Turdbull was even born.
>>>
>>>>> Who has no power at all in this country.
>>>
>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluos proof
>>>>> that you actually are that terminal a fuckwit.

On 6/06/2022 10:22 pm, Fran wrote:
> On 6/06/2022 4:42 pm, Max wrote:
>> On 6/06/2022 4:31 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>> Max wrote
>>>
>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>
>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides
>>>>>> there should be a republic.
>>>
>>>>>  You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't you?
>>>
>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999.  I would vote No because now I
>>>> realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool being our
>>>> head of state.
>>>
>>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the same
>> system of government and laws,
>
> No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.
>
> Our system is unique.

There may be some slight differences, such as federalism, but most of
what we have here is from England.

Councils, the traditions of parliament, the way the public service
operates. English law still still holds precedent in Australia, and the
whole legal system is virtually the same.

All of it is from England, except for the federal government and the
existence of states, and that is just because of the spatially large
nature of our continent.

We are a child of England, and to become a republic would be like
disowning one's mother or father.

Petzl wrote on 7/6/22 8:44 am:
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 20:30:06 +1000, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>> Petzl wrote on 6/6/22 9:17 am:
>>> On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 22:47:24 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/06/2022 10:45 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>> Petzl wrote on 2/6/22 4:02 pm:
>>>>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 15:23:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to vote a duopoly last you can't unless
>>>>>>>>>> the oddity that you vote for gets 50% of the vote
>>>>>>>>>> first count,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Corse you can if you vote below the line.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you don't no the way preferences work!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are the one with that problem, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your vote goes downhill ,assuming none achieve a vote of
>>>>>>>> over 50%,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure that neither
>>>>>>> of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> your last box preferences take over and takes over going
>>>>>>>> downhill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And when you vote below the line, you can ensure that neither
>>>>>>> of the two majors ever gets your vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again assuming no selected preference is achieve a vote of
>>>>>>>> over 50% in last box, preferences take over with ALL votes
>>>>>>>> gathered going down the preference drain again till they
>>>>>>>> end up in the duopolies rectum!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That last never happens if you don't include those in your
>>>>>>> voting below the line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad you are sure!
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you wanted to vote BELOW THE LINE, Petzl, you could have
>>>>> awarded your any of your twelve preferences to .....
>>>>>
>>>>> Three Animal Justice Party candidates, or, Three TNL candidates,
>>>>> or, Three Citizens Party candidates, or, Three Sustainable
>>>>> Australia Party candidates, or, Eight The Greens candidates, or,
>>>>> Two ungrouped candidates, or, Three Reason Australia candidates,
>>>>> or, Three Socialist Alliance candidates, or, Two Federal ICAC Now
>>>>> candidates, or, Three Australian Democrats candidates, or, Two
>>>>> Indigenous - Aboriginal Party of Australia candidates, or, Four
>>>>> Shooter, Fishers and Farmers Party candidates, or, Two Seniors
>>>>> United Party of Australia candidates, or, Two Informed Medical
>>>>> Options Party candidates, or, Two The Great Australian Party
>>>>> candidates, or, Two Legalise Cannabis Australia candidates, or,
>>>>> Two FUSION, Science, Pirate, Secular, Climate Emergency,
>>>>> candidates, or, Three Pauline Hanson's One Nation candidates,
>>>>> or, Four Liberal Democrats candidates, or, Two Australian Values
>>>>> Party candidates, or, Six United Australia Party candidates,
>>>>> and, Five Independent candidates.
>>>>>
>>>>> So heaps and Heaps of N.S.W. Senate candidates (69) wanting to
>>>>> get any of your twelve preference votes, Petzl, before you have
>>>>> to go anywhere near the LNP or ALP, Petzl!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I'm sure some of those Party's ideologies might
>>>>> disagree with your ideologies, Petzl!
>>>>
>>>> Don't their preferences all end up flowing to one of the major
>>>> parties?
>>>>
>>> Most often
>>>
>> No, once your preferences have been used up, your ballot paper is
>> expired .... or exhausted .... or whatever the correct word is!!
>>
> Becomes a *Exhausted vote*
>
Yes, so cannot be allocated to anyone else .... as you seem to think it
will be!
--
Daniel

Rod Speed wrote on 7/6/22 4:19 am:
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 20:36:33 +1000, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> Petzl wrote on 6/6/22 12:41 pm:
>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:45:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

<Snip>

>>>> Not if you  VOTE BELOW THE LINE.
>>>>
>>> Your single vote (marble) drops each time to your 12th "VOTE BELOW THE
>>> LINE" then along with other votes (marbles) that end up in your 12th
>>> "VOTE BELOW THE LINE" are combined to the preferences of the 12th
>>> below the line then if not over 50% of vote go down that candidates
>>> preferences which could be Labor/Coalition, but only if none of that
>>> candidates get over 50% of vote, all of the last candidates
>>> preference, collect ALL votes (marbles) collected are then passed down
>>> the last preference, preferences,
>
>> Where have you gotten this from, Petzl,
>
> That shit rag the TerrorGraph most likely.
>
>> cause as I and Rod understand  the system, YOU are wrong!!
>
> Yes he is.

I'm pretty sure he is .... but there is a slight/slim/minuscule
possibility that he is correct!! ;-)
--
Daniel

Fran wrote on 6/6/22 10:14 pm:
> On 6/06/2022 8:42 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote on 6/6/22 2:47 am:
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>> Why not just live it up, watching TV,
>>>
>>> You ever checked what is broadcast in the daytime ?
>>
>> Yeah, but if you've recorded some half decent stuff from the previous
>> evening .... and you get to Fast-Forward through the Ads as well!! ;-)
>
>
> Try 'Beforeigners' and 'Trom' on SBS catchup.

Never heard of either of them!

I do watch/record some SBS stuff!! (e.g. 'The Orville', 'Who Do You
Think You Are', 'Dateline'. Looking forward to 'DI Ray' on Thursday.
Sounds interesting.)
--
Daniel

Rod Speed wrote on 7/6/22 4:21 am:
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>
>>>> Why not just live it up, watching TV,
>
>>>  You ever checked what is broadcast in the daytime ?
>
>> Yeah, but if you've recorded some half decent stuff from the previous
>> evening .... and you get to Fast-Forward through the Ads as well!! ;-)
>
> e3But even then, for many there isn't likely to be enough
> to fill in the day better than a job you enjoy.

Yeap ... as long as you DO enjoy your job!!
--
Daniel