Whatawonderfulworld <foo@foobar.com> wrote

> Test

You failed, as always.

Ozix <ozix12345@yahoo.com> wrote

> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force them
> to supply the juice.

> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the same
> time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas: company A goes
> offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then next season,
> company B goes offline... A gets windfall that compensates for previous
> downtime.

Mindless conspiracy theory.

Rod Speed wrote on 14/6/22 6:59 pm:
> Whatawonderfulworld <foo@foobar.com> wrote
>
>>         Test
>
> You failed, as always.

Yeah!! It has me intrigued why people, attempting to post to a 'working'
group, don't just post an applicable post like "What do people think of
the result for the recent Election", which would be "On Topic" for this
newsgroup but, instead, post a "Test" post and get the response that you
gave!! ;-P
--
Daniel

Ozix wrote on 14/6/22 6:52 pm:
> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force them
> to supply the juice.
> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the same
> time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas: company A goes
> offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then next season,
> company B goes offline... A gets windfall that compensates for previous
> downtime.

Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when everyone
switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power companies
schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.

Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy' times,
but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise other
supplies.

My 2c worth.
--
Daniel

On 14/06/2022 5:18 pm, Whatawonderfulworld wrote:
> Test
>
Seen on my screen.

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Ozix wrote

>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
>> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force them
>> to supply the juice.
>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>> same time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas: company
>> A goes offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then next
>> season, company B goes offline... A gets windfall that compensates for
>> previous downtime.

> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when everyone
> switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power companies
> schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.

It isnt scheduled plant maintenance, it is unscheduled plant failure.

> Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy' times,
> but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise other
> supplies.

Not when it is unscheduled plant failure.

> My 2c worth.

I demand a full refund.

and those floods due to climate change, from all the
carbon dioxide they spewed out
would be funny if it were not killing the country

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

> and those floods due to climate change,

Nope, we have always had floods here, wog boy.

> from all the carbon dioxide they spewed out

Nope.

> would be funny if it were not killing the country

It isn't killing the country, wog boy.

4180814/22=190037

730091-190037=540054

On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 22:18:23 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

>Ozix wrote on 14/6/22 6:52 pm:
>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
>> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force them
>> to supply the juice.
>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the same
>> time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas: company A goes
>> offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then next season,
>> company B goes offline... A gets windfall that compensates for previous
>> downtime.
>
>Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when everyone
>switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power companies
>schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>
>Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy' times,
>but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise other
>supplies.
>
>My 2c worth.
>
Much of NSW's state power come from geriatric coal powered stations in
Hunter valley.

Those we pay our power "supply" bills to are reluctant to do
maintenance until failure.
realistically NSW needs, now, modern generation new Coal steam
stations (cost $7 billion for 1000MW)
or Nuclear ($30 billion for 1000MW)
--
Petzl
Make Australia Great Again
MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:18:36 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 22:18:23 +1000, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>> Ozix wrote on 14/6/22 6:52 pm:
>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
>>> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force them
>>> to supply the juice.
>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>>> same
>>> time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas: company A
>>> goes
>>> offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then next season,
>>> company B goes offline... A gets windfall that compensates for previous
>>> downtime.
>>
>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when everyone
>> switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power companies
>> schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>>
>> Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy' times,
>> but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise other
>> supplies.
>>
>> My 2c worth.
>>
> Much of NSW's state power come from geriatric coal powered stations in
> Hunter valley.
>
> Those we pay our power "supply" bills to are reluctant to do
> maintenance until failure.

Because AGL which owns most of them
wants to waste natural gas they are flogging.

> realistically NSW needs, now, modern generation new Coal steam
> stations (cost $7 billion for 1000MW)

> or Nuclear ($30 billion for 1000MW)

That price is overstated.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 14:43:08 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:18:36 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 22:18:23 +1000, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Ozix wrote on 14/6/22 6:52 pm:
>>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
>>>> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force them
>>>> to supply the juice.
>>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>>>> same
>>>> time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas: company A
>>>> goes
>>>> offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then next season,
>>>> company B goes offline... A gets windfall that compensates for previous
>>>> downtime.
>>>
>>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when everyone
>>> switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power companies
>>> schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>>>
>>> Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy' times,
>>> but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise other
>>> supplies.
>>>
>>> My 2c worth.
>>>
>> Much of NSW's state power come from geriatric coal powered stations in
>> Hunter valley.
>>
>> Those we pay our power "supply" bills to are reluctant to do
>> maintenance until failure.
>
>Because AGL which owns most of them
>wants to waste natural gas they are flogging.
>
Thought there was a "shortage" of that in NSW also?
>
>> realistically NSW needs, now, modern generation new Coal steam
>> stations (cost $7 billion for 1000MW)
>
>> or Nuclear ($30 billion for 1000MW)
>
>That price is overstated.
>
Well it gets worse NSW needa 8000MW generation so the price is 8 times
more.
Search for
"cost of Nuclear power plant"
Virgil C. Summer Nuclear Generating Station price got up to $23
billion and was abandoned.

Search for
"cost of Coal power plant"
one might get a bit luckier here but a state of art non-air breather
(recycles flue gas injecting oxygen into it to make it combustible)
still will put out CO2 but much more efficiently.
--
Petzl

The entire Parliament was sacked,for treason under Whitlam
Constitutionally Parties are not recognised. So when a Government was
found to be removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards
that of the Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for
the "Arab lobby", Britain and USA would of found that treachery.

Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans
than US banks/financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with
"petro-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974.
Whitlam allowed Saudi Arabs to build a Mosque in Sydney/Lakemba.
Whitlam was a immoral communist working to remove ties to USA and
Britain's orbit moving towards that of the Communist and Third World
powers, with strong support for the "Arab lobby".
https://is.gd/IzhkxL

Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.

Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
­reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
and political prejudices against us.”

Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
from a very different way of life.”

In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
prejudice against Vietnamese ­because he thought they might be
politically hostile to Labor.

Rod Speed wrote on 15/06/2022 1:36 am:
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>> Ozix wrote
>
>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
>>> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force
>>> them to supply the juice.
>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>>> same time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas:
>>> company A goes offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then
>>> next season, company B goes offline... A gets windfall that
>>> compensates for previous downtime.
>
>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when
>> everyone switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power
>> companies schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>
> It isnt scheduled plant maintenance, it is unscheduled plant failure.

Sure, some of it is 'unscheduled plant failure but I've also heard that
some of it is 'scheduled plant maintenance'.

>> Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy'
>> times, but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise
>> other supplies.
>
> Not when it is unscheduled plant failure.
>
>> My 2c worth.
>
> I demand a full refund.
--
Daniel

On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 17:08:52 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

>Rod Speed wrote on 15/06/2022 1:36 am:
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>> Ozix wrote
>>
>>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
>>>> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force
>>>> them to supply the juice.
>>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>>>> same time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas:
>>>> company A goes offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then
>>>> next season, company B goes offline... A gets windfall that
>>>> compensates for previous downtime.
>>
>>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when
>>> everyone switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power
>>> companies schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>>
>> It isnt scheduled plant maintenance, it is unscheduled plant failure.
>
>Sure, some of it is 'unscheduled plant failure but I've also heard that
>some of it is 'scheduled plant maintenance'.
>
Vague comment on 7 news a power station is down but didn't say what
one!
Need to take Matt Kean's electorate off grid till electricity
stabilizes
>
>>> Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy'
>>> times, but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise
>>> other supplies.
>>
>> Not when it is unscheduled plant failure.
>>
>>> My 2c worth.
>>
>> I demand a full refund.
--
Petzl
Make Australia Great Again
MAGA

Mark Latham has seen the light
Voting Coalition, Labor or "Greens" because you hate One Nation is like eating shit because you hate spinach

ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
https://youtu.be/-B___WPT33w
Pauline Hanson's Please Explain Episode 24 Voter Fraud

It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>> Ozix wrote

>>>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
>>>>> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force
>>>>> them
>>>>> to supply the juice.
>>>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>>>>> same
>>>>> time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas: company A
>>>>> goes
>>>>> offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then next season,
>>>>> company B goes offline... A gets windfall that compensates for
>>>>> previous
>>>>> downtime.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when
>>>> everyone
>>>> switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power companies
>>>> schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy'
>>>> times,
>>>> but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise other
>>>> supplies.
>>>>
>>>> My 2c worth.
>>>>
>>> Much of NSW's state power come from geriatric coal powered stations in
>>> Hunter valley.
>>>
>>> Those we pay our power "supply" bills to are reluctant to do
>>> maintenance until failure.
>>
>> Because AGL which owns most of them
>> wants to waste natural gas they are flogging.

> Thought there was a "shortage" of that in NSW also?

Nope.

>>> realistically NSW needs, now, modern generation new Coal steam
>>> stations (cost $7 billion for 1000MW)

Makes no sense to be wasting that coal seam gas that way.

>>> or Nuclear ($30 billion for 1000MW)

>> That price is overstated.

> Well it gets worse NSW needa 8000MW generation so the price is 8 times
> more.

Nope, that number is completely bogus and having 8
nukes doesnt cost 8 times as much because they aren't
all on their own independant site with its own site costs.

> Search for
> "cost of Nuclear power plant"

That's just greeny lies. Obscenely overstating the cost
of nukes because it includes stupid disassembly costs.
Makes no sense to disassemble an obsolete nuke, just
built a new one next to it and fill the old one with concrete
after the core is removed and stored for recycling.

> Virgil C. Summer Nuclear Generating Station price got up to $23
> billion and was abandoned.

The poms, french, chinese and india and finland etc are all still
building more and germany has now said that they will too.

> Search for
> "cost of Coal power plant"
> one might get a bit luckier here but a state of art non-air breather
> (recycles flue gas injecting oxygen into it to make it combustible)
> still will put out CO2 but much more efficiently.

Those stupid prices utterly mangle the costs given that the ongoing
fuel cost of nukes is peanuts and isnt with a coal fired power plant.

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>> Ozix wrote

>>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
>>>> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force
>>>> them to supply the juice.
>>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>>>> same time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas:
>>>> company A goes offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then
>>>> next season, company B goes offline... A gets windfall that
>>>> compensates for previous downtime.
>>
>>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when
>>> everyone switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power
>>> companies schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>> It isnt scheduled plant maintenance, it is unscheduled plant failure.

> Sure, some of it is 'unscheduled plant failure

In fact the bulk of it is.

> but I've also heard that some of it is 'scheduled plant maintenance'.

In fact fuck all of it is. And it isnt feasible to do all of that in
spring and autumn anyway.

>>> Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy'
>>> times, but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise
>>> other supplies.

>> Not when it is unscheduled plant failure.

>>> My 2c worth.

>> I demand a full refund.

What does he do, again?

MAUI POLICE — PELLETIER FRENCH FREEMASON SATANIST —
N911WY LAS VEGAS MASSACRE

————————————————————————————————

SURVEY: 1/3 ONE THIRD OF MAUI POLICE OFFICERS
CONSIDER LEAVING

https://www.mauinews.com/news/local-news/2022/06/survey-one-third-of-maui-officers-considering-leaving/

" And I have one other observation, it's hardly scientific,
I don't like his looks -- I don't like the eyes or the face
or the expression, I get a feeling of disquiet, I get a feeling
that I've taken a 19th century primitive and placed him in a
21st century jungle, and heaven help whoever gets in his way. "

————————————————————————————————

ALEX JONES ——► HAWAII / PELLETIER (French Freemason Satanist)
Las Vegas Massacre Incident Commander Now Maui Chief Of Police

HAWAII / MAUI POLICE ——►

HELICOPTER: N911WY
LAS VEGAS POLICE HELICOPTER FIRING AT CROWD

————————————————————————————————

LAS VEGAS CAPTAIN SELECTED AS CHIEF OF MAUI POLICE FORCE:

https://presslasvegas.com/news/las-vegas-captain-selected-as-chief-of-maui-police-force/

Oct 02, 2021 · Las Vegas police captain John Pelletier highlighted
his experience as an incident commander during the 2017
mass shooting in Las Vegas that left 58 dead.

————————————————

LAS VEGAS MASSACRE: What They're NOT Telling You:

https://www.banned.video/results?query=las%20vegas

————————————————

POLICE HELICOPTER: N911WY

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=N911WY%20Las%20Vegas&qs=n&form=QBVR&sp=-1&pq=n911wy%20las%20vegas&sc=1-16&sk=&cvid=725FCA23928742F2944B4CAF3C7BD28C

https://www.bing.com/search?q=n911wy+helicopter&form=QBLH&sp=-1&pq=n911wy+helicop&sc=0-14&qs=n&sk=&cvid=815FF6042BCA462F9B4F7DF3C6511A87

https://www.bing.com/search?q=+footage+of+helicopter+firing+at+crowd+in+Las+Vegas.&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=&sc=0-0&sk=&cvid=F83BE71A50EB4816BCE7C0DAD74DE4BF

————————————————

GETTING TO KNOW OUR NEW CHIEF OF POLICE, JOHN PELLETIER:
https://www.facebook.com/CouncilMemberRawlinsFernandez/videos/3163443317310571/

" And I have one other observation, it's hardly scientific,
I don't like his looks -- I don't like the eyes or the face
or the expression, I get a feeling of disquiet, I get a feeling
that I've taken a 19th century primitive and placed him in a
21st century jungle, and heaven help whoever gets in his way. "

On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 00:16:12 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
<nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>What does he do, again?
>
Tries suing newsgroup posters in the hope of getting "piss off" money
instead of going to court!
--
Petzl
Islamists behave the same way wherever they are allowed to infest.
They share tips and tricks on how to cheat the infidel. One of these
tips is that infidels never want to believe the extent and cynicism of
the islamist hatred toward them and to the west and its people. If the
infidel is given a choice between fighting for the truth with an
islamist, or paying him compensation as "piss off" money, they will
always take the latter. Another is that their religion sanctions any
illegal activity.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 19:57:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>> Ozix wrote
>
>>>>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the generators
>>>>>> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> to supply the juice.
>>>>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas: company A
>>>>>> goes
>>>>>> offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then next season,
>>>>>> company B goes offline... A gets windfall that compensates for
>>>>>> previous
>>>>>> downtime.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when
>>>>> everyone
>>>>> switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power companies
>>>>> schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy'
>>>>> times,
>>>>> but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise other
>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 2c worth.
>>>>>
>>>> Much of NSW's state power come from geriatric coal powered stations in
>>>> Hunter valley.
>>>>
>>>> Those we pay our power "supply" bills to are reluctant to do
>>>> maintenance until failure.
>>>
>>> Because AGL which owns most of them
>>> wants to waste natural gas they are flogging.
>
>> Thought there was a "shortage" of that in NSW also?
>
>Nope.
>
>>>> realistically NSW needs, now, modern generation new Coal steam
>>>> stations (cost $7 billion for 1000MW)
>
>Makes no sense to be wasting that coal seam gas that way.
>
>>>> or Nuclear ($30 billion for 1000MW)
>
>>> That price is overstated.
>
>> Well it gets worse NSW needa 8000MW generation so the price is 8 times
>> more.
>
>Nope, that number is completely bogus and having 8
>nukes doesnt cost 8 times as much because they aren't
>all on their own independant site with its own site costs.
>
>> Search for
>> "cost of Nuclear power plant"
>
>That's just greeny lies. Obscenely overstating the cost
>of nukes because it includes stupid disassembly costs.
>Makes no sense to disassemble an obsolete nuke, just
>built a new one next to it and fill the old one with concrete
>after the core is removed and stored for recycling.
>
>> Virgil C. Summer Nuclear Generating Station price got up to $23
>> billion and was abandoned.
>
>The poms, french, chinese and india and finland etc are all still
>building more and germany has now said that they will too.
>
>> Search for
>> "cost of Coal power plant"
>> one might get a bit luckier here but a state of art non-air breather
>> (recycles flue gas injecting oxygen into it to make it combustible)
>> still will put out CO2 but much more efficiently.
>
>Those stupid prices utterly mangle the costs given that the ongoing
>fuel cost of nukes is peanuts and isnt with a coal fired power plant.
>
"Our" media not reporting this?
Took Labor to see sense?
<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10891127/Anthony-Albanese-calls-coal-power-stations-come-online-climate-change-strategy-shock.html?fbclid=IwAR3dXhLA8vQd8cYRPxr6qC15X9ZmOCkvQxADh7PkpcLl9jUc14Vnm0ezwKg>
https://tinyurl.com/27ck2xto
Bring back coal NOW: Labor BEGS the energy industry to turn on MORE
fossil fuel-powered plants to help ease the soaring cost of bills -
just days after declaring they'd take 'real action on climate change'
Labor has begged industry bosses to fire up all their coal-fuelled
power stations at full capacity to ease the national energy crisis in
a dramatic policy u-turn.

Just days after promising 'real action on climate change', Labor today
demanded the nation's coal power stations are all brought back into
service as soon as possible.

At least a quarter of Australia's coal-fired electricity production is
currently offline while the east coast shivers through a freezing
winter amid soaring price rises.

--
Petzl

Australian Politician
When you’re driving along a country road
and you come across a fence post with a turtle
balanced on top,
that’s called a fencepost turtle

You know he didn’t get up there by himself,
he definitely doesn’t belong up there,
he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there,
and you just gotta wonder what kind of dill
put him up there in the first place!

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>>> Ozix wrote

>>>>>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the
>>>>>>> generators
>>>>>>> say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has to force
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> to supply the juice.
>>>>>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas: company A
>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>> offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing. Then next season,
>>>>>>> company B goes offline... A gets windfall that compensates for
>>>>>>> previous
>>>>>>> downtime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power companies
>>>>>> schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, equipment might not come back from maint during the 'heavy'
>>>>>> times,
>>>>>> but, at least there would be plenty of time to try to organise other
>>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2c worth.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Much of NSW's state power come from geriatric coal powered stations
>>>>> in
>>>>> Hunter valley.
>>>>>
>>>>> Those we pay our power "supply" bills to are reluctant to do
>>>>> maintenance until failure.
>>>>
>>>> Because AGL which owns most of them
>>>> wants to waste natural gas they are flogging.
>>
>>> Thought there was a "shortage" of that in NSW also?
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>>>> realistically NSW needs, now, modern generation new Coal steam
>>>>> stations (cost $7 billion for 1000MW)
>>
>> Makes no sense to be wasting that coal seam gas that way.
>>
>>>>> or Nuclear ($30 billion for 1000MW)
>>
>>>> That price is overstated.
>>
>>> Well it gets worse NSW needa 8000MW generation so the price is 8 times
>>> more.
>>
>> Nope, that number is completely bogus and having 8
>> nukes doesnt cost 8 times as much because they aren't
>> all on their own independant site with its own site costs.
>>
>>> Search for
>>> "cost of Nuclear power plant"
>>
>> That's just greeny lies. Obscenely overstating the cost
>> of nukes because it includes stupid disassembly costs.
>> Makes no sense to disassemble an obsolete nuke, just
>> built a new one next to it and fill the old one with concrete
>> after the core is removed and stored for recycling.
>>
>>> Virgil C. Summer Nuclear Generating Station price got up to $23
>>> billion and was abandoned.
>>
>> The poms, french, chinese and india and finland etc are all still
>> building more and germany has now said that they will too.
>>
>>> Search for
>>> "cost of Coal power plant"
>>> one might get a bit luckier here but a state of art non-air breather
>>> (recycles flue gas injecting oxygen into it to make it combustible)
>>> still will put out CO2 but much more efficiently.

>> Those stupid prices utterly mangle the costs given that the ongoing
>> fuel cost of nukes is peanuts and isnt with a coal fired power plant.
` > "Our" media not reporting this?

You only read the useless shit media.

> Took Labor to see sense?

Nope.

> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10891127/Anthony-Albanese-calls-coal-power-stations-come-online-climate-change-strategy-shock.html?fbclid=IwAR3dXhLA8vQd8cYRPxr6qC15X9ZmOCkvQxADh7PkpcLl9jUc14Vnm0ezwKg>
> https://tinyurl.com/27ck2xto

That is just Albo lying thru his fucking teeth.

> Bring back coal NOW: Labor BEGS the energy industry to turn onMORE
> fossil fuel-powered plants to help ease the soaring cost of bills -
> just days after declaring they'd take 'real action on climate change'

Yep, just another example of Albo lying thru his teeth.

> Labor has begged industry bosses to fire up all their coal-fuelled
> power stations at full capacity to ease the national energy crisis in
> a dramatic policy u-turn.

Easier said than done when they have failed.

> Just days after promising 'real action on climate change', Labor today
> demanded the nation's coal power stations are all brought back into
> service as soon as possible.

Just more stupid political posturing. Albo has
just stupidly promised the UN that he will be
cutting back Australia's emissions dramatically.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-16/australia-updates-emissions-reduction-target-paris-agreement/101157008

That pathological liar was running around before the election
telling the coal miners that there would be no cuts in coal mining.

> At least a quarter of Australia's coal-firedelectricity production is
> currently offline

Yep, mostly due to unscheduled generator failure.

That one that exploded in Qld will take more than a year to fix.

> while the east coast shivers through a freezing winter

Thats a lie. It isnt that cold.

> amid soaring price rises.

That has been stopped too with the cancellation of the spot price market.

Tho it remains to be seen how many of the generators will keep
their generators running when they are running at a loss with
the new $300/kwh cap on what they can charge when that is
a loss for some of them, particularly the gas fired generators.

Nukes are the way to go, but that takes a long time to happen.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:23:50 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Search for
>>>> "cost of Nuclear power plant"
>>>
>>> That's just greeny lies. Obscenely overstating the cost
>>> of nukes because it includes stupid disassembly costs.
>>> Makes no sense to disassemble an obsolete nuke, just
>>> built a new one next to it and fill the old one with concrete
>>> after the core is removed and stored for recycling.
>>>
>>>> Virgil C. Summer Nuclear Generating Station price got up to $23
>>>> billion and was abandoned.
>>>
>>> The poms, french, chinese and india and finland etc are all still
>>> building more and germany has now said that they will too.
>>>
>>>> Search for
>>>> "cost of Coal power plant"
>>>> one might get a bit luckier here but a state of art non-air breather
>>>> (recycles flue gas injecting oxygen into it to make it combustible)
>>>> still will put out CO2 but much more efficiently.
>
>>> Those stupid prices utterly mangle the costs given that the ongoing
>>> fuel cost of nukes is peanuts and isnt with a coal fired power plant.
>`
>> "Our" media not reporting this?
>
>You only read the useless shit media.
>
Not all I read
>
>> Took Labor to see sense?
>
>Nope.
>
Agree
>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10891127/Anthony-Albanese-calls-coal-power-stations-come-online-climate-change-strategy-shock.html?fbclid=IwAR3dXhLA8vQd8cYRPxr6qC15X9ZmOCkvQxADh7PkpcLl9jUc14Vnm0ezwKg>
>> https://tinyurl.com/27ck2xto
>
>That is just Albo lying thru his fucking teeth.
>
Yes wasn't a week later when
<https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/technology/environment/anthony-albanese-commits-australia-to-higher-emission-reduction-targets/news-story/616363852b50cce37637b5267215c79f>
https://tinyurl.com/23yovtas
"Energy Minister Chris Bowen has fired up at a journalist for
suggesting one thing was the answer to the electricity crisis."

Albo is full of shit
>
>> Bring back coal NOW: Labor BEGS the energy industry to turn onMORE
>> fossil fuel-powered plants to help ease the soaring cost of bills -
>> just days after declaring they'd take 'real action on climate change'
>
>Yep, just another example of Albo lying thru his teeth.
>
Agree

>> Labor has begged industry bosses to fire up all their coal-fuelled
>> power stations at full capacity to ease the national energy crisis in
>> a dramatic policy u-turn.
>
>Easier said than done when they have failed.
>
agree

>> Just days after promising 'real action on climate change', Labor today
>> demanded the nation's coal power stations are all brought back into
>> service as soon as possible.
>
>Just more stupid political posturing. Albo has
>just stupidly promised the UN that he will be
>cutting back Australia's emissions dramatically.
>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-16/australia-updates-emissions-reduction-target-paris-agreement/101157008
>
>That pathological liar was running around before the election
>telling the coal miners that there would be no cuts in coal mining.
>
Not turning my Jacuzzi off, nor my cappuccino maker, ect.
The government needs to restart the coal power plants they shut down

>> At least a quarter of Australia's coal-firedelectricity production is
>> currently offline
>
>Yep, mostly due to unscheduled generator failure.
>
>That one that exploded in Qld will take more than a year to fix.
>
They don't explode without reason (lack of funding)

>> while the east coast shivers through a freezing winter
>
>Thats a lie. It isnt that cold.
>
I have my heaters going. Outside is pretty miserable

>> amid soaring price rises.
>
>That has been stopped too with the cancellation of the spot price market.
>
>Tho it remains to be seen how many of the generators will keep
>their generators running when they are running at a loss with
>the new $300/kwh cap on what they can charge when that is
>a loss for some of them, particularly the gas fired generators.
>
>Nukes are the way to go, but that takes a long time to happen.
>
probably 12 months plenty of them for sale cheaply because of Matt
Keen types.
But still not THAT cheap $$$$$$
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Rod Speed wrote on 15/6/22 8:00 pm:
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>> Ozix wrote
>
>>>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the
>>>>> generators say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has
>>>>> to force them to supply the juice.
>>>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>>>>> same time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas:
>>>>> company A goes offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing.
>>>>> Then next season, company B goes offline... A gets windfall that
>>>>> compensates for previous downtime.
>>>
>>>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when
>>>> everyone switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power
>>>> companies schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>>>  It isnt scheduled plant maintenance, it is unscheduled plant failure.
>
>> Sure, some of it is 'unscheduled plant failure
>
> In fact the bulk of it is.
>
>> but I've also heard that  some of it is 'scheduled plant maintenance'.
>
> In fact fuck all of it is. And it isnt feasible to do all of that in
> spring and autumn anyway.

Oh! Pray! Do tell!
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Nomen Nescio wrote on 15/6/22 7:50 pm:
> It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.
>
WHAT? Her 'boyfriend' is gay!! So you mean her 'friend' who is a 'boy'
is gay, do you?? Or is her 'gay' boyfriend' really 'bi'??
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