*Dutton Dressed As Lamb*
/ABC Politics Newsletter with Annabel Crabb/
<https://tinyurl.com/2f3bbj3w>

"...
As was consistently predicted would be the result in a Liberal landscape
denuded of moderates, Peter Dutton is now the only candidate to take over
as Liberal leader. This will, even the most fervent Dutton fans
acknowledge, require the tiniest bit of repositioning, a process the
former defence minister commenced yesterday by appearing in a photo with
his family and discussing his skin condition on 2GB.

Labor’s Tanya Plibersek made a crack about Mr Dutton frightening children,
drawing a likeness between the putative Liberal leader and a certain un-
nameable Harry Potter villain. She retracted and made an apology, which Mr
Dutton accepted, in a mutual sign that the national distaste for political
bickering has been noted.

But yeah, if you have to rebuild a party that's hugely on the nose with
women, it's a massive call for your first brick to be Peter Dutton, even
if – as conceded widely in the Canberra Bubble, the Member for Dickson is
significantly more personable than his public image suggests. Even Liberal
women reckon the party has a problem, and the Prime Minister's campaign
was remarkable for its stubborn refusal to even attempt to win women back,
as I wrote here in an article lengthy enough to justify a further cup of
tea. ... "

~~~

Amazing transmogrification: Gestapo Dutton posing as a totally
misunderstood bleeding hearts pristine mimosa who cares about tough lives
of minorities and the little people!

Is there anyone out there in the great electorate wilderness who buys that
crap?

Sadly this past election pushed the Lieberals even farther towards the
ugly far-right.

--
Ördög - - The newsgroup Devil at your service.

Want to see the most spiteful nasties of Australian politics?
Here I show you:

Just look no farther than the Liberal Party of Australia and its dumb
coalition partner:

This is their fundamental ideology (if one can call it that):
Capitalist neo-liberal/libertarian LNP lies and alternate reality,
Lack of LNP compassion for the already downtrodden,
Sociopathic LNP greed & envy,
LNP endemic nepotistic and plutocratic corruption,
Vicious LNP hunger for power and "born to rule mentality",
Xtian LNP fundamentalism Never ending misogyny & homophobia within LNP
Undeniable Anglo-Celtic racism and supremacy of LNP politicians,
Unbridled hate for the underclasses amongst LNP personalities,
Unrelenting vengeance seeking against political opponents of LNP...

990990-900009=90981
90981-18909=72072

72072-27027=45045

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0BNs0Tgljo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grY7ds78XQE

On 27/05/2022 8:45 am, ~Ördög~ wrote:
> *Dutton Dressed As Lamb*
> /ABC Politics Newsletter with Annabel Crabb/
> <https://tinyurl.com/2f3bbj3w>

I can't find her article using that link.
>
>
> "...
> As was consistently predicted would be the result in a Liberal landscape
> denuded of moderates, Peter Dutton is now the only candidate to take over
> as Liberal leader. This will, even the most fervent Dutton fans
> acknowledge, require the tiniest bit of repositioning, a process the
> former defence minister commenced yesterday by appearing in a photo with
> his family and discussing his skin condition on 2GB.
>
> Labor’s Tanya Plibersek made a crack about Mr Dutton frightening children,
> drawing a likeness between the putative Liberal leader and a certain un-
> nameable Harry Potter villain. She retracted and made an apology, which Mr
> Dutton accepted, in a mutual sign that the national distaste for political
> bickering has been noted.
>
> But yeah, if you have to rebuild a party that's hugely on the nose with
> women, it's a massive call for your first brick to be Peter Dutton, even
> if – as conceded widely in the Canberra Bubble, the Member for Dickson is
> significantly more personable than his public image suggests. Even Liberal
> women reckon the party has a problem, and the Prime Minister's campaign
> was remarkable for its stubborn refusal to even attempt to win women back,
> as I wrote here in an article lengthy enough to justify a further cup of
> tea. ... "

I thought it was interesting that Albanese said he got on better with
Dutton than with Morrison.

I can understand why someone would get on better with a head kicker than
with a religious nut case.

First lie, he said power prices would come down under Labor - we all
can read the headlines how they are going up under Labor. No good
Sleazy blaming the Coalition for under investment in system, etc etc,
he made this specific promise. It was not subjective.

Second lie, Gutless Alasleazy said he would support a CPI increase in
wages (5.5%) in an application to the Fair Work Commission. Now on the
radio news today he says he will withdraw that support.

To all you suckers out there, don't blame me, I didn't vote for the ALP!

Fran posted:

> On 27/05/2022 8:45 am, ~Ördög~ wrote:
>> *Dutton Dressed As Lamb*
>> /ABC Politics Newsletter with Annabel Crabb/
>> <https://tinyurl.com/2f3bbj3w>
>
> I can't find her article using that link.

Sorry, Fran.
That is the only link I have that was attached to the newsletter.
I quoted from my newsletter-subscription I received from the ABC by e-mail.

>>
>> "...
>> As was consistently predicted would be the result in a Liberal
>> landscape denuded of moderates, Peter Dutton is now the only candidate
>> to take over as Liberal leader. This will, even the most fervent Dutton
>> fans acknowledge, require the tiniest bit of repositioning, a process
>> the former defence minister commenced yesterday by appearing in a photo
>> with his family and discussing his skin condition on 2GB.
>>
>> Labor’s Tanya Plibersek made a crack about Mr Dutton frightening
>> children,
>> drawing a likeness between the putative Liberal leader and a certain
>> un- nameable Harry Potter villain. She retracted and made an apology,
>> which Mr Dutton accepted, in a mutual sign that the national distaste
>> for political bickering has been noted.
>>
>> But yeah, if you have to rebuild a party that's hugely on the nose with
>> women, it's a massive call for your first brick to be Peter Dutton,
>> even if – as conceded widely in the Canberra Bubble, the Member for
>> Dickson is significantly more personable than his public image
>> suggests. Even Liberal women reckon the party has a problem, and the
>> Prime Minister's campaign was remarkable for its stubborn refusal to
>> even attempt to win women back, as I wrote here in an article lengthy
>> enough to justify a further cup of tea. ... "
>
> I thought it was interesting that Albanese said he got on better with
> Dutton than with Morrison.
>
> I can understand why someone would get on better with a head kicker than
> with a religious nut case.

--
Ördög - - the one and only newsgroup Devil.

*Scott Morrison instructed Border Force to reveal election day asylum boat
arrival*
/ABCNews, Australia/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNtzY3JCB04>

"The Prime Minister says it was disgraceful for his predecessor, Scott
Morrison, to order public servants to release an election day statement on
asylum seekers.
Anthony Albanese says it was a clear breach of caretaker conventions and a
desperate attempt to politicise border security while votes were being
cast."

~~

And that peace of Lie-real lowlife was our PM over the past four years
A total disgrace.

No matter how many sour grapes wanker posts are coming in support of that
right-rotted good for nothing inhumane political mob from the likes of Rod
Speed (with his sorry attempts at trolling under different nyms) and the
pathological scumbag nymshifter LNP troll, the facts speak for themselves.

No, we don't expect the Albanese government to be the ideal government all
rational Australians ever dreamed of, but even if it does its worse it
could not come near to the despicable political depravity of the LNP
coalition.

--
Ördög - - The newsgroup Devil at your service.

Want to see the most spiteful nasties of Australian politics?
Here I show you:

Just look no farther than the Liberal Party of Australia and its dumb
coalition partner:

This is their fundamental ideology (if one can call it that):
Capitalist neo-liberal/libertarian LNP lies and alternate reality,
Lack of LNP compassion for the already downtrodden,
Sociopathic LNP greed & envy,
LNP endemic nepotistic and plutocratic corruption,
Vicious LNP hunger for power and "born to rule mentality",
Xtian LNP fundamentalism Never ending misogyny & homophobia within LNP
Undeniable Anglo-Celtic racism and supremacy of LNP politicians,
Unbridled hate for the underclasses amongst LNP personalities,
Unrelenting vengeance seeking against political opponents of LNP...

*What Now?*
/friendlyjordies/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcZZBku7cdY>

"What does an Albanese government mean?"

~~~
Well.
If nothing else, it means NO Federal LNP freak show till the next election.
It is a bonus in itself.

--
Ördög - - The newsgroup Devil at your service.

Want to see the most spiteful nasties of Australian politics?
Here I show you:

Just look no farther than the Liberal Party of Australia and its dumb
coalition partner:

This is their fundamental ideology (if one can call it that):
Capitalist neo-liberal/libertarian LNP lies and alternate reality,
Lack of LNP compassion for the already downtrodden,
Sociopathic LNP greed & envy,
LNP endemic nepotistic and plutocratic corruption,
Vicious LNP hunger for power and "born to rule mentality",
Xtian LNP fundamentalism Never ending misogyny & homophobia within LNP
Undeniable Anglo-Celtic racism and supremacy of LNP politicians,
Unbridled hate for the underclasses amongst LNP personalities,
Unrelenting vengeance seeking against political opponents of LNP...

On 27/05/2022 11:57 am, ~Ördög~ wrote:
> *What Now?*
> /friendlyjordies/
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcZZBku7cdY>
>
> "What does an Albanese government mean?"
>
> ~~~
> Well.
> If nothing else, it means NO Federal LNP freak show till the next election.
> It is a bonus in itself.
>

**I would posit that, if Joyce remains leader of the Nats and Dutton is
leader at the next election, then the COALition will lose again.

Both seem highly likely.

All the above assumes that Albo doesn't make too many mistakes.

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

> I would posit that, if Joyce remains leader of the Nats and Duttonis
> leader at the next election, then the COALition will lose again.

> Both seem highly likely.

> All the above assumes that Albo doesn't make too many mistakes.

You don't often see one term federal govts anyway, so that
is a pretty safe bet regardless of who the two 'leaders' are.

And the Nats with Joyce didn't lose any seats, you silly little mindless
one eyed bigot.

On 27/05/2022 1:52 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>
>
>> I would posit that, if Joyce remains leader of the Nats and Duttonis
>> leader at the next election, then the COALition will lose again.
>
>> Both seem highly likely.
>
>> All the above assumes that Albo doesn't make too many mistakes.
>
> You don't often see one term federal govts anyway, so that
> is a pretty safe bet regardless of who the two 'leaders' are.
>
> And the Nats with Joyce didn't lose any seats, you silly little mindless
> one eyed bigot.

**Oh the Nats love Joyce. No doubt about it. Trouble is, Liberal voters
think he is a fuckwit. Which he is.

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

>>> I would posit that, if Joyce remains leader of the Nats and Duttonis
>>> leader at the next election, then the COALition will lose again.

>>> Both seem highly likely.

>>> All the above assumes that Albo doesn't make too many mistakes.

>> You don't often see one term federal govts anyway,

Tho Whitlam came very close, tho technically not just one term,
in practice it was. And interestingly Albo is a Whitlam disciple.

Likely Albo will get stuck with what the caucus forces him
to have ministers wise. Only Rudd bucked that system.

>> so that is a pretty safe bet regardless of who the two 'leaders' are.

>> And the Nats with Joyce didn't lose any seats, you silly little
>> mindless one eyed bigot.

> Oh the Nats love Joyce. No doubt about it.

That is mindless bullshit too given that they gave McCormack
a go and there are now 3 running to replace Joyce. The Nats
always do have a leadership spill after every federal election.

> Trouble is, Liberal voters think he is a fuckwit.

Irrelevant, fuck all libs even consider him when voting.

> Which he is.

Sure.

On 27/05/2022 11:35 am, ~Ördög~ wrote:
> *Scott Morrison instructed Border Force to reveal election day asylum boat
> arrival*
> /ABCNews, Australia/
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNtzY3JCB04>
>
> "The Prime Minister says it was disgraceful for his predecessor, Scott
> Morrison, to order public servants to release an election day statement on
> asylum seekers.
> Anthony Albanese says it was a clear breach of caretaker conventions and a
> desperate attempt to politicise border security while votes were being
> cast."
>
> ~~
>
> And that peace of Lie-real lowlife was our PM over the past four years
> A total disgrace.
>
> No matter how many sour grapes wanker posts are coming in support of that
> right-rotted good for nothing inhumane political mob from the likes of Rod
> Speed (with his sorry attempts at trolling under different nyms) and the
> pathological scumbag nymshifter LNP troll, the facts speak for themselves.
>
> No, we don't expect the Albanese government to be the ideal government all
> rational Australians ever dreamed of, but even if it does its worse it
> could not come near to the despicable political depravity of the LNP
> coalition.

I see that an investigation is being undertaken by the head of the Dept
of Immigration. As if I'd trust anything he did!

On 27/05/2022 1:19 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 27/05/2022 11:57 am, ~Ördög~ wrote:
>> *What Now?*
>> /friendlyjordies/
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcZZBku7cdY>
>>
>> "What does an Albanese government mean?"
>>
>> ~~~
>> Well.
>> If nothing else, it means NO Federal LNP freak show till the next
>> election.
>> It is a bonus in itself.
>>
>
> **I would posit that, if Joyce remains leader of the Nats and Dutton is
> leader at the next election, then the COALition will lose again.

Yes, but that should be obvious to everyone here.

With that big a difference in seats, it will take the Libs at last 2
temrs to recover. Labor would need to stuff up on a biblical scale to
lose got next time round.

> Both seem highly likely.
>
> All the above assumes that Albo doesn't make too many mistakes.

Even if he does make mistakes (and all PMs do and so will he) it's gunna
be more than one term for the Libs to recover.

On Fri, 27 May 2022 14:48:47 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 27/05/2022 1:52 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>
>>
>>> I would posit that, if Joyce remains leader of the Nats and Duttonis
>>> leader at the next election, then the COALition will lose again.
>>
>>> Both seem highly likely.
>>
>>> All the above assumes that Albo doesn't make too many mistakes.
>>
>> You don't often see one term federal govts anyway, so that
>> is a pretty safe bet regardless of who the two 'leaders' are.
>>
>> And the Nats with Joyce didn't lose any seats, you silly little mindless
>> one eyed bigot.
>
>**Oh the Nats love Joyce. No doubt about it. Trouble is, Liberal voters
>think he is a fuckwit. Which he is.
>
Joyce is not a fuckwit.
A crook yes.
<https://michaelwest.com.au/barnaby-joyce-80m-valuation-discrepancy/>
But for his electorate he is famous with many tax dollars being spent.
would like him here .
They are all crooked.
Albanese the same but only looking after himself.

Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
life. Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions and then as a
pathetic politician. God knows what it will do to our country in 3
years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.
Yes he did sweep floors at the Gov owned Commonwealth bank after
leaving school for two years, then attended University.
Nhe has $10 million from snout and trotters being in tax payer funded
trough. Utterly useless.
--
Petzl

The entire Parliament was sacked,for treason under Whitlam
Constitutionally Parties are not recognised. So when a Government was
found to be removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards
that of the Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for
the "Arab lobby", Britain and USA would of found that treachery.

Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans
than US banks/financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with
"petro-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974.
Whitlam allowed Saudi Arabs to build a Mosque in Sydney/Lakemba.
Whitlam was a immoral communist working to remove ties to USA and
Britain's orbit moving towards that of the Communist and Third World
powers, with strong support for the "Arab lobby".
https://is.gd/IzhkxL

Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.

Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
­reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
and political prejudices against us.”

Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
from a very different way of life.”

In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
prejudice against Vietnamese ­because he thought they might be
politically hostile to Labor.

On Fri, 27 May 2022 16:17:33 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>On 27/05/2022 1:19 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 27/05/2022 11:57 am, ~Ördög~ wrote:
>>> *What Now?*
>>> /friendlyjordies/
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcZZBku7cdY>
>>>
>>> "What does an Albanese government mean?"
>>>
>>> ~~~
>>> Well.
>>> If nothing else, it means NO Federal LNP freak show till the next
>>> election.
>>> It is a bonus in itself.
>>>
>>
>> **I would posit that, if Joyce remains leader of the Nats and Dutton is
>> leader at the next election, then the COALition will lose again.
>
>Yes, but that should be obvious to everyone here.
>
>With that big a difference in seats, it will take the Libs at last 2
>temrs to recover. Labor would need to stuff up on a biblical scale to
>lose got next time round.
>
>> Both seem highly likely.
>>
>> All the above assumes that Albo doesn't make too many mistakes.
>
>Even if he does make mistakes (and all PMs do and so will he) it's gunna
>be more than one term for the Libs to recover.
>
Australia is going to end up with a depression the likes of which
you've never seen. You'll be lucky If you end up with a country at all
Anthony Albanese is a multi millionare and never worked a day in its
life. Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions and then as a
pathetic politician. God knows what it will do to our country in 3
years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.
--
Petzl

The entire Parliament was sacked,for treason under Whitlam
Constitutionally Parties are not recognised. So when a Government was
found to be removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards
that of the Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for
the "Arab lobby", Britain and USA would of found that treachery.

Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans
than US banks/financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with
"petro-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974.
Whitlam allowed Saudi Arabs to build a Mosque in Sydney/Lakemba.
Whitlam was a immoral communist working to remove ties to USA and
Britain's orbit moving towards that of the Communist and Third World
powers, with strong support for the "Arab lobby".
https://is.gd/IzhkxL

Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.

Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
­reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
and political prejudices against us.”

Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
from a very different way of life.”

In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
prejudice against Vietnamese ­because he thought they might be
politically hostile to Labor.

*How Clive Palmer's next meeting with his financial adviser might go*
/ABC News (Australia)/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ97mTC_Ywk>

"Clive Palmer's United Australia Party has failed to secure a seat in the
House of Representatives, despite spending almost $100 million on its
campaign. 7.30 satirist Mark Humphries and his co-writer Evan Williams
figured that Palmer's financial adviser might have a few thoughts."

~~~

Clive, Australia's greatest business genius...ever.

SUNK???

;P :P :P

--
Ördög - - the one and only newsgroup Devil.

On 27/05/2022 6:50 pm, ~Ördög~ wrote:
> *How Clive Palmer's next meeting with his financial adviser might go*
> /ABC News (Australia)/
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ97mTC_Ywk>
>
> "Clive Palmer's United Australia Party has failed to secure a seat in the
> House of Representatives, despite spending almost $100 million on its
> campaign. 7.30 satirist Mark Humphries and his co-writer Evan Williams
> figured that Palmer's financial adviser might have a few thoughts."
>
> ~~~
>
> Clive, Australia's greatest business genius...ever.
>
> SUNK???
>
> ;P :P :P

I just loved the vote numbers for Craig Kelly as Leader of the UAP and
'our next PM'. All that money for less than 8 thousand votes.... What
a fiasco.

Rod Speed wrote on 25/5/22 4:19 am:
> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:04:30 +1000, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>> Rod Speed wrote on 16/5/22 5:05 am:
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 03:37:14 +1000, Mattb
>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>> Good cite
>>>
>>>> Many of these gifts were funded through severe taxation of
>>>> pagan cults.[49] Some pagan cults were forced to disband for
>>>> lack of funds; when this happened the Church took over the
>>>> cult's previous role of caring for the poor.[51] In a
>>>> reflection of their increased standing in the Empire, clergy
>>>> began to adopt the dress of the royal household, including the
>>>> cope
>>> That doesnt mean that the church was pagan, fuckwit.
>>
>> Aren't "Church" and "Pagan" sort of mutually exclusive??
>
> Not really. Most xtians claim that those who don't believe in their
> god are pagans.

Yes, so one group believes in 'God' and one group doesn't believe in
'God'/denys that 'God' even exists!!

> In fact roman catholics believe that protestants are pagans who will
> end up in hell until a very recent pope proclaimed that even
> protestants can end up in heaven.

Yeah!! But they'll be in 'Second Class' Heaven!! ;-P
--
Daniel

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Good cite

>>>>> Many of these gifts were funded through severe taxation of
>>>>> pagan cults.[49] Some pagan cults were forced to disband for
>>>>> lack of funds; when this happened the Church took over the
>>>>> cult's previous role of caring for the poor.[51] In a
>>>>> reflection of their increased standing in the Empire, clergy
>>>>> began to adopt the dress of the royal household, including the
>>>>> cope

>>>> That doesnt mean that the church was pagan, fuckwit.

>>> Aren't "Church" and "Pagan" sort of mutually exclusive??

>> Not really. Most xtians claim that those who don't believe in their
>> god are pagans.

> Yes, so one group believes in 'God' and one group doesn't believe in
> 'God'/denys that 'God' even exists!!

>> In fact roman catholics believe that protestants are pagans who will
>> end up in hell until a very recent pope proclaimed that even
>> protestants can end up in heaven.

> Yeah!! But they'll be in 'Second Class' Heaven!! ;-P

Nope, not now.

On Fri, 27 May 2022 21:46:28 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

>Rod Speed wrote on 25/5/22 4:19 am:
>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:04:30 +1000, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Rod Speed wrote on 16/5/22 5:05 am:
>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 03:37:14 +1000, Mattb
>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>>>> Good cite
>>>>
>>>>> Many of these gifts were funded through severe taxation of
>>>>> pagan cults.[49] Some pagan cults were forced to disband for
>>>>> lack of funds; when this happened the Church took over the
>>>>> cult's previous role of caring for the poor.[51] In a
>>>>> reflection of their increased standing in the Empire, clergy
>>>>> began to adopt the dress of the royal household, including the
>>>>> cope
>>>> That doesnt mean that the church was pagan, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> Aren't "Church" and "Pagan" sort of mutually exclusive??
>>
>> Not really. Most xtians claim that those who don't believe in their
>> god are pagans.
>
>Yes, so one group believes in 'God' and one group doesn't believe in
>'God'/denys that 'God' even exists!!
>
>> In fact roman catholics believe that protestants are pagans who will
>> end up in hell until a very recent pope proclaimed that even
>> protestants can end up in heaven.
>
>Yeah!! But they'll be in 'Second Class' Heaven!! ;-P

Tell me when you see God say this. The Popes are not God or speak
for God.

Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the
same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure
you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of
sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in
your own eye?

So many in organized religions forget this verse.

On Sat, 28 May 2022 04:51:11 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 May 2022 21:46:28 +1000, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>
>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/5/22 4:19 am:
>>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:04:30 +1000, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 16/5/22 5:05 am:
>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 03:37:14 +1000, Mattb
>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <Snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> Good cite
>>>>>
>>>>>> Many of these gifts were funded through severe taxation of
>>>>>> pagan cults.[49] Some pagan cults were forced to disband for
>>>>>> lack of funds; when this happened the Church took over the
>>>>>> cult's previous role of caring for the poor.[51] In a
>>>>>> reflection of their increased standing in the Empire, clergy
>>>>>> began to adopt the dress of the royal household, including the
>>>>>> cope
>>>>> That doesnt mean that the church was pagan, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> Aren't "Church" and "Pagan" sort of mutually exclusive??
>>>
>>> Not really. Most xtians claim that those who don't believe in their
>>> god are pagans.
>>
>> Yes, so one group believes in 'God' and one group doesn't believe in
>> 'God'/denys that 'God' even exists!!
>>
>>> In fact roman catholics believe that protestants are pagans who will
>>> end up in hell until a very recent pope proclaimed that even
>>> protestants can end up in heaven.
>>
>> Yeah!! But they'll be in 'Second Class' Heaven!! ;-P
>
> Tell me when you see God say this. The Popes are not God or speak
> for God.
>
> Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the
> same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure
> you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of
> sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in
> your own eye?

That's not god either, just another stupid god botherer.

> So many in organized religions forget this verse.

On Sat, 28 May 2022 05:00:36 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 May 2022 04:51:11 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 21:46:28 +1000, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Rod Speed wrote on 25/5/22 4:19 am:
>>>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:04:30 +1000, Daniel65
>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on 16/5/22 5:05 am:
>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 03:37:14 +1000, Mattb
>>>>>> <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <Snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good cite
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many of these gifts were funded through severe taxation of
>>>>>>> pagan cults.[49] Some pagan cults were forced to disband for
>>>>>>> lack of funds; when this happened the Church took over the
>>>>>>> cult's previous role of caring for the poor.[51] In a
>>>>>>> reflection of their increased standing in the Empire, clergy
>>>>>>> began to adopt the dress of the royal household, including the
>>>>>>> cope
>>>>>> That doesnt mean that the church was pagan, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aren't "Church" and "Pagan" sort of mutually exclusive??
>>>>
>>>> Not really. Most xtians claim that those who don't believe in their
>>>> god are pagans.
>>>
>>> Yes, so one group believes in 'God' and one group doesn't believe in
>>> 'God'/denys that 'God' even exists!!
>>>
>>>> In fact roman catholics believe that protestants are pagans who will
>>>> end up in hell until a very recent pope proclaimed that even
>>>> protestants can end up in heaven.
>>>
>>> Yeah!! But they'll be in 'Second Class' Heaven!! ;-P
>>
>> Tell me when you see God say this. The Popes are not God or speak
>> for God.
>>
>> Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the
>> same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure
>> you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of
>> sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in
>> your own eye?
>
>That's not god either, just another stupid god botherer.

Can you provide evidence? BTW that is a Jesus quote not God.
>
>> So many in organized religions forget this verse.