On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:01:10 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 22:39:19 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 08:51:31 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 15:20:47 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:17:55 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:45:13 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>>>>>>>>Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>>>>>>>>Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>>>>>>>>to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where do you get your news. Please give a cite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>><http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>>>>>>
>>>>>All have slants for US I use (don't mindlessly believe slant)
>>>>>https://www.newsmax.com
>>>>>https://www.oann.com
>>>>>https://www.foxnews.com
>>>>>https://nypost.com
>>>>>https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump
>>>>>in Australia I use a paid Murdoch media all the others are woke crap.
>>>>>Sydney Centric but still pushes it's agenda's
>>>>>https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au
>>>>>
>>>>>I also for US, pro-Trump, anti-Biden heavy slant
>>>>>https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You do know you can't get the full facts by reading those or
>>>>leftist news sources. I don't know of any source that give unbiased
>>>>facts only.
>>>>
>>>How much you read about a criminal lawyer being let off by a Democrat
>>>corrupt Judge with Clinton stacked jury?
>>>MSN are only reporting charges dropped.
>>><https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/trump-releases-statement-jury-stacked-dnc-activists-finds-hillary-clinton-lawyer-sussmann-not-guilty/>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/29a72klp
>>>
>>>You need to learn what life is about you won't from Government run
>>>media. Yes it is you that has to turn down the slant.
>>>The "paper" I read has a lot of slants, one is talking property prices
>>>up, the lefty ones talking them down.
>>>Means one want to sell property the other wants to buy.
>>>
>>>Know a lot of conservative journalists in Sweden who will never go
>>>against Swedish government they know is lying it's ass off..
>>>
>>>same is so in the USA!
>>
>> Fox has gone against the government in the USA.
>>
>Yo have no legit government in the USA!

You are full of shit.

>They also turn against Trump, right now seem to suport.

Trump is a idiot.

>IMO you seem of sound mind don't accept or reject differing opinions.

At times. Depends on the opinion. I do not serve the Party like a
Nazi or Stalinist do. Gun Control depends on how far the left want to
go, entitlements also.

>Quite frankly I believe you smarter than me.
>So is Rod Speed but you don't always see eye to eye.

Rod Speed is rather stupid IMO. He is here just to troll.

>I tend not to read papers that do not allow honest comments

They are allowed here as this is a un moderated group. Fran and
Ordog might think they moderate it but they don't.

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Max wrote

>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to Thistlethwaite)
>>>> is ridiculous, when the question of a republic needs to be decided
>>>> by referendum.

>>> Maybe he could answer why Australia needs to become a republic.

>> It isn't about needs, its about what the majority of us want.

> Needs are more important than wants,

There are no needs involved with the republic/monarchy
question except in the sense that stupid monarchists
need someone to grovel to and royalty needs a purpose.

> the province of spoilt and greedy brats.

Not with the replublic/monarchy question except
in the sense that royalty are the spoilt greedy brats.

> Brats have no end to wanting.

True in spades of royalty.

> They belong to US, not to any mature civilisation.

They aren't actually stupid enough to have a monarchy.

Even you stupid curry munchers don't anymore.

> Besides, wants that are unnecessary can always be manufactured by
> cunning slimy moneygrubbing devils.

That is a perfect description of royalty.

>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides
>>>> there should be a republic.

>>> There needs to be a debate before that. This position could help in
>>> that debate, to bring forth new ideas one way or the other.

>> There can't be new ideas with an issue like this.

> Not for robots, no.
> Not all are robotic.

There can't be new ideas with an issue like this
that has been hashed over for centurys now.

Virtually everyone has binned their royals now, even you curry munchers.

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 08:01:07 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 17:12:52 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 16:30:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> Max wrote
>> >
>> >>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>> Thistlethwaite) is
>> >>> ridiculous, when the question of a republic needs to be decided by
>> >>> referendum.
>> >
>> >> Maybe he could answer why Australia needs to become a republic.
>> >
>> >It isnt about needs, its about what the majority of us want.
>> >
>> Lets make Arindam Banerjee, King Arindam Banerjee
>> He can have King Malcolm's chair
>
> And you can be the Aussie God Petzlcoatl.
>
>> https://imgbb.com/x2QJfmw
>> >>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides
>> there
>> >>> should be a republic.
>> >
>> >> There needs to be a debate before that. This position could help in
>> that
>> >> debate, to bring forth new ideas one way or the other.
>> >
>> >There can't be new ideas with an issue like this.
>> >
>> The Monarchy has kept Australia growng since King George III.
>
> Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth II have been instrumental.

Nope, that stupid cow Liz has never ever done anything in that area here.

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 09:10:44 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:01:10 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 22:39:19 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 08:51:31 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 15:20:47 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:17:55 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:45:13 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish
>>>>>>>>>> Slaves
>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the
>>>>>>>>>> moon god
>>>>>>>>>> Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where do you get your news. Please give a cite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> All have slants for US I use (don't mindlessly believe slant)
>>>>>> https://www.newsmax.com
>>>>>> https://www.oann.com
>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com
>>>>>> https://nypost.com
>>>>>> https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump
>>>>>> in Australia I use a paid Murdoch media all the others are woke
>>>>>> crap.
>>>>>> Sydney Centric but still pushes it's agenda's
>>>>>> https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also for US, pro-Trump, anti-Biden heavy slant
>>>>>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You do know you can't get the full facts by reading those or
>>>>> leftist news sources. I don't know of any source that give unbiased
>>>>> facts only.
>>>>>
>>>> How much you read about a criminal lawyer being let off by a Democrat
>>>> corrupt Judge with Clinton stacked jury?
>>>> MSN are only reporting charges dropped.
>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/trump-releases-statement-jury-stacked-dnc-activists-finds-hillary-clinton-lawyer-sussmann-not-guilty/>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/29a72klp
>>>>
>>>> You need to learn what life is about you won't from Government run
>>>> media. Yes it is you that has to turn down the slant.
>>>> The "paper" I read has a lot of slants, one is talking property prices
>>>> up, the lefty ones talking them down.
>>>> Means one want to sell property the other wants to buy.
>>>>
>>>> Know a lot of conservative journalists in Sweden who will never go
>>>> against Swedish government they know is lying it's ass off..
>>>>
>>>> same is so in the USA!
>>>
>>> Fox has gone against the government in the USA.
>>>
>> Yo have no legit government in the USA!
>
> You are full of shit.
>
>> They also turn against Trump, right now seem to suport.
>
> Trump is a idiot.
>
>> IMO you seem of sound mind don't accept or reject differing opinions.
>
> At times. Depends on the opinion. I do not serve the Party like a
> Nazi or Stalinist do. Gun Control depends on how far the left want to
> go, entitlements also.
>
>> Quite frankly I believe you smarter than me.
>> So is Rod Speed but you don't always see eye to eye.
>
> Rod Speed is rather stupid IMO. He is here just to troll.

You are so fucking usingless that you can't even manage
to come up with anything better than that hoary old line.

>> I tend not to read papers that do not allow honest comments
>
> They are allowed here as this is a un moderated group. Fran and
> Ordog might think they moderate it but they don't.

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 22:27:50 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>On 7/06/2022 10:17 pm, Max wrote:
>> On 7/06/2022 7:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> so I can  enjoy the greatness of Britain
>>>
>>> Its a failed state. There might just be a reason most of them have left.
>>>
>>
>> It is still more important than Australia on the world stage.  The only
>> thing they did wrong is let in so many ethnics.
>
>That actually improved Britain. Chicken Tikka Masala wouldn't have
>become Britian's national dish without all those migrants.
>
Are people from Glasgow considered migrants?
--
Petzl
We know the Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying.
"Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn"

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 22:13:24 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>On 7/06/2022 6:01 pm, Max wrote:
>> On 6/06/2022 7:59 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum
>>>>>>>>>> decides there should be a republic.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't you?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999.  I would vote No because now I
>>>>>>>> realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool being
>>>>>>>> our head of state.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England,
>>>>>  We got independence quite some time ago now.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and have the same system of government
>>>>>  Nope, we have a federal system, dont.
>>>>>  We aren't actually stupid enough to have an upper
>>>>> house stuffed with senile old farts and bishops etc
>>>>> who hardly ever bother to show up either.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and laws,
>>>>>  Wrong, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and language.  And have very similar  culturewith regard to food,
>>>>>> arts, sport and religion.
>>>>>  Bullshit we do.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It therefore remains a good idea to keep havingthe English monarch
>>>>>> as  our head of state,
>>>>>  Bullshit it does. And that prat gets no say on anything here anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>> until Australia is totally over-run by people who speakEnglish as a
>>>>>> second language and who are not Christian.
>>>>>  Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Canada have not become a republic yet.
>>>>>  Irrelevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do we think we are any more indepedent or better than them?
>>>
>>>>>  Because we are, and the stupid poms too.
>>>
>>>> Do you think we would be able to put on the celebrationsfor the
>>>> Jubilee  like the way the Poms just did?
>>>
>>> Yes we did. And much better than those stupid poms managed.
>>>
>>>> Bullshit we would.  Our's would be shithouse in comparison.
>>>
>>> You are free to bugger off there if you prefer they way they do things.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe I will do that and I will still be able to post here, so I can
>> enjoy the greatness of Britain and you and everyone else will have to
>> sit there in the shithole that Australia is and suffer.
>>
>> Have fun watching Eddie McGuire and other Aussie fuckwits.
>
>Who's Eddie McGuire?
>
Famous for creating chicken tikka masala dish.
--
Petzl
We know the Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying.
"Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn"

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 19:35:01 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

>Petzl wrote on 7/6/22 9:10 am:
>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 22:22:24 +1000, Fran
>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 6/06/2022 4:42 pm, Max wrote:
>
><Snip>
>
>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the same
>>>> system of government and laws,
>>>
>>> No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.
>>>
>>> Our system is unique.
>>
>> Australia's system of government is imaginatively described as a
>> 'Washminster' mutation, transplanting the federal system from the
>> United States onto the Westminster system of responsible parliamentary
>> government.
>
>"imaginatively described as a 'Washminster' mutation" ... by you, and
>you alone, as far as I know, Petzl!!
>
History buff much of our constitution came from Washington
--
Petzl
Australia's parliament needs to obey our Constitutions,
the judiciary must apply the law!
Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
‘Our Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth’.

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 22:16:35 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

>The majority of people have UK acenstry. And it's been that way forever.
>
>The people make up the culture of the country, and that is a UK culture.
>
>It makes sense to keep the UK head of state until such time as this
>country is completely over-run by fuckwits from other countries and
>cultures.
>
Just a ruse to remove our legally defined British God, compound
redemptive name Lord Jesus Christ.
Offends the farm animals who have no legitimacy to represent
Australians in Parliament state and federal.
Australia has NEVER had a "Preamble" that is a con by secularists!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Australia#Inclusion_of_a_preamble

It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive
Name is Lord Jesus Christ. Following the opening words to our
Constitution,
"Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
"...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."
http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
Sir John Downer (great-grandfather of current Liberal Member Alexander
Downer) in reply said: "I don't know whether it has occurred to
Honorable Members that the Christian religion is a portion of the
English Constitution ... It is part of the Law of England which I
think we undoubtedly brought with us when we settled these
colonies..."
--
Petzl
'we are a Christian nation' with 'Christian values' to which newcomers
should conform, while enjoying freedom for their own beliefs.
Pauline Hanson.

If you look at Australia it is largely a Christian country with
Christian norms. The things we do, the way our political parties
behave, have, if not an activist Christianity about it, Christian
ideals.
Paul Keating

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 15:01:07 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 17:12:52 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 16:30:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> Max wrote
>> >
>> >>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to Thistlethwaite) is
>> >>> ridiculous, when the question of a republic needs to be decided by
>> >>> referendum.
>> >
>> >> Maybe he could answer why Australia needs to become a republic.
>> >
>> >It isnt about needs, its about what the majority of us want.
>> >
>> Lets make Arindam Banerjee, King Arindam Banerjee
>> He can have King Malcolm's chair
>
>And you can be the Aussie God Petzlcoatl.
>
>> https://imgbb.com/x2QJfmw
>> >>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides there
>> >>> should be a republic.
>> >
>> >> There needs to be a debate before that. This position could help in that
>> >> debate, to bring forth new ideas one way or the other.
>> >
>> >There can't be new ideas with an issue like this.
>> >
>> The Monarchy has kept Australia growng since King George III.
>
>Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth II have been instrumental.
>
A continuation of Our Monarchy The UK's Parliament have nothing to do
with the running of Australia our Monarchy does!
QEII had the entire Australian Government sacked for treason.
Upsets our anti-Monarch brigade gives them a inferiority complex that
this is so and can happen again.
--
Petzl

The entire Parliament was sacked,for treason under Whitlam
Constitutionally Parties are not recognised. So when a Government was
found to be removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards
that of the Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for
the "Arab lobby", Britain and USA would of found that treachery.

Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans
than US banks/financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with
"petro-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974.
Whitlam allowed Saudi Arabs to build a Mosque in Sydney/Lakemba.
Whitlam was a immoral communist working to remove ties to USA and
Britain's orbit moving towards that of the Communist and Third World
powers, with strong support for the "Arab lobby".
https://is.gd/IzhkxL

Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.

Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
­reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
and political prejudices against us.”

Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
from a very different way of life.”

In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
prejudice against Vietnamese ­because he thought they might be
politically hostile to Labor.

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 22:08:34 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

>>>>  In that case both Labor and Coalition ministers are zero values whose
>>>> only aim is to get their corrupt snout and trotters in trough.
>>>> Sometimes it stuffs up when they parachute a real offensive stinker
>>>> (Kristina Keneally) to push out a very popular known local (Dai Le).
>>
>>> Dai Le was the independent that ended up winning.
>>
>> She was only an independant because Albo stupidly parachuted
>> that fool yank Keneally into that seat after she got dumped into
>> an unwinnable place in the Labor NSW Senate ticket.
>>
Albo a Whitlam Como opposed the entry of (Dai Le) Vietnamese refugees,
saying they stirred no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some
resentment about the people coming to Australia at a time of
unemployment, and also people from a very different way of life.”

>
>Why doesn't she just accept that no one likes her?
>
Because Albo believes she is hot to trot.
Not with Tanya Plibersek though
https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/06/07/albos-new-politics-faces-old-challenges-as-plibersek-demotion-shows/
https://tinyurl.com/267pmpre
The chief one is the demotion of talented and experienced MP Tanya
Plibersek. The new prime minister has had plenty of opportunities to
explain his thinking, but has stumbled at every hurdle.
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”

I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 10:08:18 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 09:10:44 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:01:10 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 22:39:19 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 08:51:31 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 15:20:47 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:17:55 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:45:13 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish
>>>>>>>>>>> Slaves
>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the
>>>>>>>>>>> moon god
>>>>>>>>>>> Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored
>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>> to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where do you get your news. Please give a cite.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All have slants for US I use (don't mindlessly believe slant)
>>>>>>> https://www.newsmax.com
>>>>>>> https://www.oann.com
>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com
>>>>>>> https://nypost.com
>>>>>>> https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump
>>>>>>> in Australia I use a paid Murdoch media all the others are woke
>>>>>>> crap.
>>>>>>> Sydney Centric but still pushes it's agenda's
>>>>>>> https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also for US, pro-Trump, anti-Biden heavy slant
>>>>>>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do know you can't get the full facts by reading those or
>>>>>> leftist news sources. I don't know of any source that give unbiased
>>>>>> facts only.
>>>>>>
>>>>> How much you read about a criminal lawyer being let off by a Democrat
>>>>> corrupt Judge with Clinton stacked jury?
>>>>> MSN are only reporting charges dropped.
>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/trump-releases-statement-jury-stacked-dnc-activists-finds-hillary-clinton-lawyer-sussmann-not-guilty/>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/29a72klp
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to learn what life is about you won't from Government run
>>>>> media. Yes it is you that has to turn down the slant.
>>>>> The "paper" I read has a lot of slants, one is talking property prices
>>>>> up, the lefty ones talking them down.
>>>>> Means one want to sell property the other wants to buy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Know a lot of conservative journalists in Sweden who will never go
>>>>> against Swedish government they know is lying it's ass off..
>>>>>
>>>>> same is so in the USA!
>>>>
>>>> Fox has gone against the government in the USA.
>>>>
>>> Yo have no legit government in the USA!
>>
>> You are full of shit.
>>
>>> They also turn against Trump, right now seem to suport.
>>
>> Trump is a idiot.
>>
>>> IMO you seem of sound mind don't accept or reject differing opinions.
>>
>> At times. Depends on the opinion. I do not serve the Party like a
>> Nazi or Stalinist do. Gun Control depends on how far the left want to
>> go, entitlements also.
>>
>>> Quite frankly I believe you smarter than me.
>>> So is Rod Speed but you don't always see eye to eye.
>>
>> Rod Speed is rather stupid IMO. He is here just to troll.
>
>You are so fucking usingless that you can't even manage
>to come up with anything better than that hoary old line.

That line is true. You are a troll and stupid.
>
>>> I tend not to read papers that do not allow honest comments
>>
>> They are allowed here as this is a un moderated group. Fran and
>> Ordog might think they moderate it but they don't.

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 11:21:18 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 15:01:07 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 17:12:52 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 16:30:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> >> Max wrote
>>> >
>>> >>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>> Thistlethwaite) is
>>> >>> ridiculous, when the question of a republic needs to be decided by
>>> >>> referendum.
>>> >
>>> >> Maybe he could answer why Australia needs to become a republic.
>>> >
>>> >It isnt about needs, its about what the majority of us want.
>>> >
>>> Lets make Arindam Banerjee, King Arindam Banerjee
>>> He can have King Malcolm's chair
>>
>> And you can be the Aussie God Petzlcoatl.
>>
>>> https://imgbb.com/x2QJfmw
>>> >>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum decides
>>> there
>>> >>> should be a republic.
>>> >
>>> >> There needs to be a debate before that. This position could help in
>>> that
>>> >> debate, to bring forth new ideas one way or the other.
>>> >
>>> >There can't be new ideas with an issue like this.
>>> >
>>> The Monarchy has kept Australia growng since King George III.
>>
>> Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth II have been instrumental.
>>
> A continuation of Our Monarchy The UK's Parliament have nothing to do
> with the running of Australia our Monarchy does!

> QEII had the entire Australian Government sacked

Bullshit she did. Kerr only told he about the sacking after it had
happened.

> for treason.

Repeating that mindless lie changes nothing.

> Upsets our anti-Monarch brigade

Bullshit.

> gives them a inferiority complex that this is so

It isn't.

> and can happen again.

Nope, dope.

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 11:22:12 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 22:08:34 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>
>>>>> In that case both Labor and Coalition ministers are zero values
>>>>> whose
>>>>> only aim is to get their corrupt snout and trotters in trough.
>>>>> Sometimes it stuffs up when they parachute a real offensive stinker
>>>>> (Kristina Keneally) to push out a very popular known local (Dai Le).
>>>
>>>> Dai Le was the independent that ended up winning.
>>>
>>> She was only an independant because Albo stupidly parachuted
>>> that fool yank Keneally into that seat after she got dumped into
>>> an unwinnable place in the Labor NSW Senate ticket.

> Albo a Whitlam Como

He can't be both a commo and a multi millionaire, stupid.

> opposed the entry of (Dai Le) Vietnamese refugees,

Albo isn't.

> saying they stirred no sympathy in him.

That was that fool Whitless.

> He added: “There will be some resentment about thepeople coming to
> Australia at a time of unemployment,and also people from a very
> different way of life.”

Said the fuckwit whose party enouraged hordes of Greeks,
Italians and varioius other wogs to migrate here in droves.

>> Why doesn't she just accept that no one likes her?

> Because Albo believes she is hot to trot.

Nope, he just found her a safe labor seat because she is NSW Labor.

> Not with Tanya Plibersek though

She got back fine anyway.

> https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/06/07/albos-new-politics-faces-old-challenges-as-plibersek-demotion-shows/
> https://tinyurl.com/267pmpre

Just because some fool claims something...

> The chief one is the demotion of talented and experienced MP Tanya
> Plibersek. The new prime minister has had plenty of opportunities to
> explain his thinking, but has stumbled at every hurdle.

He got stuck with who the stupid labor caucus decided would be ministers..

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 12:40:17 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 10:08:18 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 09:10:44 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:01:10 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 22:39:19 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 08:51:31 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 15:20:47 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:17:55 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:45:13 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish
>>>>>>>>>>>> Slaves
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the
>>>>>>>>>>>> moon god
>>>>>>>>>>>> Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored
>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>> to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where do you get your news. Please give a cite.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All have slants for US I use (don't mindlessly believe slant)
>>>>>>>> https://www.newsmax.com
>>>>>>>> https://www.oann.com
>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com
>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com
>>>>>>>> https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump
>>>>>>>> in Australia I use a paid Murdoch media all the others are woke
>>>>>>>> crap.
>>>>>>>> Sydney Centric but still pushes it's agenda's
>>>>>>>> https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also for US, pro-Trump, anti-Biden heavy slant
>>>>>>>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You do know you can't get the full facts by reading those or
>>>>>>> leftist news sources. I don't know of any source that give
>>>>>>> unbiased
>>>>>>> facts only.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> How much you read about a criminal lawyer being let off by a
>>>>>> Democrat
>>>>>> corrupt Judge with Clinton stacked jury?
>>>>>> MSN are only reporting charges dropped.
>>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/trump-releases-statement-jury-stacked-dnc-activists-finds-hillary-clinton-lawyer-sussmann-not-guilty/>
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/29a72klp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to learn what life is about you won't from Government run
>>>>>> media. Yes it is you that has to turn down the slant.
>>>>>> The "paper" I read has a lot of slants, one is talking property
>>>>>> prices
>>>>>> up, the lefty ones talking them down.
>>>>>> Means one want to sell property the other wants to buy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Know a lot of conservative journalists in Sweden who will never go
>>>>>> against Swedish government they know is lying it's ass off..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> same is so in the USA!
>>>>>
>>>>> Fox has gone against the government in the USA.
>>>>>
>>>> Yo have no legit government in the USA!
>>>
>>> You are full of shit.
>>>
>>>> They also turn against Trump, right now seem to suport.
>>>
>>> Trump is a idiot.
>>>
>>>> IMO you seem of sound mind don't accept or reject differing opinions.
>>>
>>> At times. Depends on the opinion. I do not serve the Party like a
>>> Nazi or Stalinist do. Gun Control depends on how far the left want to
>>> go, entitlements also.
>>>
>>>> Quite frankly I believe you smarter than me.
>>>> So is Rod Speed but you don't always see eye to eye.
>>>
>>> Rod Speed is rather stupid IMO. He is here just to troll.
>>
>> You are so fucking usingless that you can't even manage
>> to come up with anything better than that hoary old line.

> You are a troll and stupid.

You are so fucking usingless that you can't even manage
to come up with anything better than that hoary old line.

Next you will be stupidly pig ignorantly claiming I am a lefty.

>>>> I tend not to read papers that do not allow honest comments
>>>
>>> They are allowed here as this is a un moderated group. Fran and
>>> Ordog might think they moderate it but they don't.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 16:10:44 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:01:10 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 22:39:19 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 08:51:31 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 15:20:47 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:17:55 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:45:13 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish Slaves
>>>>>>>>>>Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the moon god
>>>>>>>>>>Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored people
>>>>>>>>>>to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where do you get your news. Please give a cite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>All have slants for US I use (don't mindlessly believe slant)
>>>>>>https://www.newsmax.com
>>>>>>https://www.oann.com
>>>>>>https://www.foxnews.com
>>>>>>https://nypost.com
>>>>>>https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump
>>>>>>in Australia I use a paid Murdoch media all the others are woke crap.
>>>>>>Sydney Centric but still pushes it's agenda's
>>>>>>https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I also for US, pro-Trump, anti-Biden heavy slant
>>>>>>https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You do know you can't get the full facts by reading those or
>>>>>leftist news sources. I don't know of any source that give unbiased
>>>>>facts only.
>>>>>
>>>>How much you read about a criminal lawyer being let off by a Democrat
>>>>corrupt Judge with Clinton stacked jury?
>>>>MSN are only reporting charges dropped.
>>>><https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/trump-releases-statement-jury-stacked-dnc-activists-finds-hillary-clinton-lawyer-sussmann-not-guilty/>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/29a72klp
>>>>
>>>>You need to learn what life is about you won't from Government run
>>>>media. Yes it is you that has to turn down the slant.
>>>>The "paper" I read has a lot of slants, one is talking property prices
>>>>up, the lefty ones talking them down.
>>>>Means one want to sell property the other wants to buy.
>>>>
>>>>Know a lot of conservative journalists in Sweden who will never go
>>>>against Swedish government they know is lying it's ass off..
>>>>
>>>>same is so in the USA!
>>>
>>> Fox has gone against the government in the USA.
>>>
>>Yo have no legit government in the USA!
>
> You are full of shit.
>
You are the septic (Yank) head has been filled with so much shit you
don't know the truth.
What is the cost of lies? It's not that we'll mistake them for the
truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies, then we no
longer recognize the truth at all.

>>They also turn against Trump, right now seem to suport.
>
> Trump is a idiot.
>
Thought so at first also
Then came the stolen election, Trump is now motivated to expose the
swamp and is effectively doing so.
Trump is the best thing Politically to Happen in the US of A since
George Washington.

>>IMO you seem of sound mind don't accept or reject differing opinions.
>
> At times. Depends on the opinion. I do not serve the Party like a
>Nazi or Stalinist do. Gun Control depends on how far the left want to
>go, entitlements also.
>
Appearing that Biden's Crime Gang organized the killing at Uvalde
school, or you think it is normal to ignore 911 calls and tried
stopping those that were successfully in rescuing children?
The Uvalde "police" tried to stop the nearby border patrol who
intercepted 911 calls of kid's who had been shot, any they forced the
police way stormed the school and shot Biden's loon in lease than a
minute of the 3 border patrol arriving.
Biden's crime gang has even came for Peter Navarro, you did nothing,
next they will come for you!
<https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-peter-navarros-arrest-third-world>
https://tinyurl.com/26un3ux2
Tucker Carlson: Peter Navarro's arrest is a huge step toward the
politics of the third world
Tucker Carlson argues the left is using the judicial system for
political revenge

>>Quite frankly I believe you smarter than me.
>>So is Rod Speed but you don't always see eye to eye.
>
> Rod Speed is rather stupid IMO. He is here just to troll.
>
Rod Speed is opinionated but no troll known him since the 80's
brilliant computer tech.

>>I tend not to read papers that do not allow honest comments
>
> They are allowed here as this is a un moderated group. Fran and
>Ordog might think they moderate it but they don't.
>
Fran and Ordog are part of aus.politics Dumb 3 and plonk anyone who
has a clue
--
Petzl
LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM
Donald Trump has shown the entire nation irrefutably,
explicitly & beyond any shadow of a doubt
that U.S. government & their media propagandists are
corrupt to the core.
Our Legal System is CORRUPT, our Judges (and Justices!) are highly
partisan, compromised or just plain scared, our Borders are OPEN, our
Elections are Rigged, Inflation is RAMPANT, gas prices and food costs
are “through the roof,” our Military “Leadership” is Woke, our Country is going to HELL, and Michael Sussmann is not guilty. How’s
everything else doing? Enjoy your day!!!
Donald J Trump

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 15:31:44 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 07 Jun 2022 16:10:44 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:01:10 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 22:39:19 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 08:51:31 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 15:20:47 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:17:55 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 May 2022 10:45:13 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Islam is a fake cult, Mohammad had the Koran written by Jewish
>>>>>>>>>>> Slaves
>>>>>>>>>>> Nowhere in the old testament, new testament or Torah is the
>>>>>>>>>>> moon god
>>>>>>>>>>> Allah mentioned. You would think it should be there?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You expect logic from books written for the stupid?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mind you Mohammad was a white man, the Quran condemns colored
>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>> to hell. their heaven is only for white people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Never seen that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But most get sucked in by fakenews media
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where do you get your news. Please give a cite.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/islam.htm#Arab%20Racism>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All have slants for US I use (don't mindlessly believe slant)
>>>>>>> https://www.newsmax.com
>>>>>>> https://www.oann.com
>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com
>>>>>>> https://nypost.com
>>>>>>> https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump
>>>>>>> in Australia I use a paid Murdoch media all the others are woke
>>>>>>> crap.
>>>>>>> Sydney Centric but still pushes it's agenda's
>>>>>>> https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also for US, pro-Trump, anti-Biden heavy slant
>>>>>>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do know you can't get the full facts by reading those or
>>>>>> leftist news sources. I don't know of any source that give unbiased
>>>>>> facts only.
>>>>>>
>>>>> How much you read about a criminal lawyer being let off by a Democrat
>>>>> corrupt Judge with Clinton stacked jury?
>>>>> MSN are only reporting charges dropped.
>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/trump-releases-statement-jury-stacked-dnc-activists-finds-hillary-clinton-lawyer-sussmann-not-guilty/>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/29a72klp
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to learn what life is about you won't from Government run
>>>>> media. Yes it is you that has to turn down the slant.
>>>>> The "paper" I read has a lot of slants, one is talking property
>>>>> prices
>>>>> up, the lefty ones talking them down.
>>>>> Means one want to sell property the other wants to buy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Know a lot of conservative journalists in Sweden who will never go
>>>>> against Swedish government they know is lying it's ass off..
>>>>>
>>>>> same is so in the USA!
>>>>
>>>> Fox has gone against the government in the USA.
>>>>
>>> Yo have no legit government in the USA!
>>
>> You are full of shit.
>>
> You are the septic (Yank) head has been filled with so much shit you
> don't know the truth.
> What is the cost of lies? It's not that we'll mistake them for the
> truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies, then we no
> longer recognize the truth at all.
>
>>> They also turn against Trump, right now seem to suport.
>>
>> Trump is a idiot.

> Thought so at first also
> Then came the stolen election, Trump is now motivated to expose the
> swamp and is effectively doing so.

Bullshit he is. He hasn't even managed to convince even a single
judge, even the ones he appointed, that the election was stolen.

> Trump is the best thing Politically to Happen in the US of A since
> George Washington.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

>>> IMO you seem of sound mind don't accept or reject differing opinions.
>>
>> At times. Depends on the opinion. I do not serve the Party like a
>> Nazi or Stalinist do. Gun Control depends on how far the left want to
>> go, entitlements also.

> Appearing that Biden's Crime Gang organized the killing at Uvalde
> school,

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

> or you think it is normal to ignore 911 calls

They weren't ignored, the cops showed up.

> and tried stopping those that were successfully in rescuing children?

Only because the cops were still deciding what to do about it.

> The Uvalde "police" tried to stop the nearby border patrolwho
> intercepted 911 calls of kid's who had been shot,

Not even possible to do that.

> any they forced the police way stormed the schooland shot Biden's loon

Nothing to do with Biden.

> in lease than a minute of the 3 border patrol arriving.

> Biden's crime gang has even came for Peter Navarro,you did nothing,
> next they will come for you!
> <https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-peter-navarros-arrest-third-world>
> https://tinyurl.com/26un3ux2

Just because some fool claims something...

> Tucker Carlson: Peter Navarro's arrest is a huge step toward the
> politics of the third world
> Tucker Carlson argues the left is using the judicial system for
> political revenge

Just because some fool claims something...

>>> Quite frankly I believe you smarter than me.
>>> So is Rod Speed but you don't always see eye to eye.
>>
>> Rod Speed is rather stupid IMO. He is here just to troll.
>>
> Rod Speed is opinionated but no troll known him since the 80's
> brilliant computer tech.
>
>>> I tend not to read papers that do not allow honest comments
>>
>> They are allowed here as this is a un moderated group. Fran and
>> Ordog might think they moderate it but they don't.
>>
> Fran and Ordog are part of aus.politics Dumb 3 and plonk anyone who
> has a clue

On 8/06/2022 11:14 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 22:16:35 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>
>> The majority of people have UK acenstry. And it's been that way forever.
>>
>> The people make up the culture of the country, and that is a UK culture.
>>
>> It makes sense to keep the UK head of state until such time as this
>> country is completely over-run by fuckwits from other countries and
>> cultures.
>>
> Just a ruse to remove our legally defined British God, compound
> redemptive name Lord Jesus Christ.

What does 'compound redemptive name' mean?

> Offends the farm animals who have no legitimacy to represent
> Australians in Parliament state and federal.
> Australia has NEVER had a "Preamble" that is a con by secularists!
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Australia#Inclusion_of_a_preamble
>
> It's not now taught in school, but Australia's Constitutional Monarchy
> places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive
> Name is Lord Jesus Christ. Following the opening words to our
> Constitution,
> "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
> "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."
> http://foundingdocs.gov.au/scan-sid-103.html
> Sir John Downer (great-grandfather of current Liberal Member Alexander
> Downer) in reply said: "I don't know whether it has occurred to
> Honorable Members that the Christian religion is a portion of the
> English Constitution ... It is part of the Law of England which I
> think we undoubtedly brought with us when we settled these
> colonies..."

Why does Alexander Downer have that weird Pommy accent if he goes back
generations in this country?

On 8/06/2022 5:34 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Fran wrote
>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum
>>>>>>>>>> decides there should be a republic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't
>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999.  I would vote No because now
>>>>>>>> I realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool
>>>>>>>> being our head of state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the
>>>>>> same system of government and laws,
>>>>>  No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.
>>>>>  Our system is unique.
>>>
>>>> There may be some slight differences, such as federalism,
>>>  Nothing slight about a federal system.
>>>
>>>> but most of  what we have here is from England.
>>>  Wrong. as always.
>>>
>>>> Councils, the traditions of parliament, the way the public service
>>>> operates. English law still still holds precedent in Australia,
>>>  Bullshit it does.
>>>
>>>> and the  whole legal system is virtually the same.
>>>  Bullshit it is. Some states aren't even actually stupid
>>> enough to have the common law shit anymore.
>>>
>>>> All of it is from England, except for the federalgovernment and the
>>>> existence of states,
>>>  Wrong, as always.
>>>  We aren't actually stupid enough to have a bunch of senile old
>>> farts, bishops and failed politician having any say on anything.
>>>
>>>> and that is just because of the spatially large  nature of our
>>>> continent.
>>>  Wrong, as always.
>>>
>>>> We are a child of England,
>>>  We grew up more than a century ago now.
>>>
>>>> and to become a republic would be like  disowning one's mother or
>>>> father.
>
>>>  Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>
>> The majority of people have UK acenstry.
>
> It is far from clear that that is true anymore and its irrelevant anyway.
>
> We stopped letting the poms have any say on how we do things
> more than a century ago now and it makes no sense to have
> some fuckwit pom like Liz or Big Ears as the head of state.
>
>> And it's been that way forever.
>
> Its far from clear that it is even true anymore.
>
>> The people make up the culture of the country,
>
> Yes.
>
>> and that is a UK culture.
>
> Wrong, as always. It never has been.
>

What about UK culture do we not have here?

>> It makes sense to keep the UK head of state until such time as this
>> country is completely over-run by fuckwits from other countries and
>> cultures.
>
> Wrong, as always.

On 8/06/2022 5:40 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a
>>>>>>>>>>>> republic needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum
>>>>>>>>>>>> decides there should be a republic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest,
>>>>>>>>>>> haven't you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999.  I would vote No because
>>>>>>>>>> now I realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie
>>>>>>>>>> fool being our head of state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>>>>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>>>>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England,
>>>>>>>  We got independence quite some time ago now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and have the same system of government
>>>>>>>  Nope, we have a federal system, dont.
>>>>>>>  We aren't actually stupid enough to have an upper
>>>>>>> house stuffed with senile old farts and bishops etc
>>>>>>> who hardly ever bother to show up either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and laws,
>>>>>>>  Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and language.  And have very similar  culturewith regard to
>>>>>>>> food, arts, sport and religion.
>>>>>>>  Bullshit we do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It therefore remains a good idea to keep havingthe English
>>>>>>>> monarch as  our head of state,
>>>>>>>  Bullshit it does. And that prat gets no say on anything here
>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> until Australia is totally over-run by people who speakEnglish
>>>>>>>> as a second language and who are not Christian.
>>>>>>>  Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Canada have not become a republic yet.
>>>>>>>  Irrelevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do we think we are any more indepedent or better than them?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Because we are, and the stupid poms too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think we would be able to put on the celebrationsfor the
>>>>>> Jubilee  like the way the Poms just did?
>>>>>  Yes we did. And much better than those stupid poms managed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit we would.  Our's would be shithouse in comparison.
>>>
>>>>>  You are free to bugger off there if you prefer they way they do
>>>>> things.
>>>
>>>> Maybe I will do that
>>>  No chance they would actually be silly enough to let you.
>>>
>>>> and I will still be able to post here,
>>>  Nope, the death squad would have its orders...
>>>
>>>> so I can  enjoy the greatness of Britain
>
>>>  Its a failed state. There might just be a reason most of them have
>>> left.
>
>> It is still more important than Australia on the world stage.
>
> Irrelevant and there might just be a reason why
> FAR more poms move here than go the other way.
>

Only because their land mass is small.

>> The only  thing they did wrong is let in so many ethnics.
>
> They were also stupid enough to join the EU and eventually
> managed to work out that that made no sense at all.
>
> They were also stupid enough to try to avoid some of
> their colonys leaving, most obviously with Kenya etc.
>

Why wouldn't you try to hang on to your colonies?

> They were also stupid enough to get involved in
> WW1 and had to be bailed out by the yanks, TWICE.
>
> And they are STILL stupid enough let silly senile old farts,
> bishops and failed politicians have any say on political issues
> and are still stupid enough to had an immense amount of
> money every fucking year to the richest people in the fucking
> country and drunks  like Liz's mum.
>

Liz's Mum lived to 100 so she can't have been that much of a drunk.

>>>> and you and everyone else will have to  sit therein the shithole
>>>> that Australia is and suffer.
>>>  I only suffer from pathetic excuses for lying trolls like you.
>>>
>>>> Have fun watching Eddie McGuire
>>>  Who ?
>>>
>>>> and other Aussie fuckwits.
>>>  Like you.
>>>
>>>>>>>> It's only because of fuckwits like Turnbull that anyone does
>>>>>>>> think that.
>>>>>>>  Wrong, as always. There have always been plenty that have
>>>>>>> seen no sense in having some stupid pom as the head of
>>>>>>> state even before that fool Turdbull was even born.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who has no power at all in this country.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluos proof
>>>>>>>>> that you actually are that terminal a fuckwit.

On 7/06/2022 10:25 pm, Fran wrote:
> On 7/06/2022 6:07 pm, Max wrote:
>> On 6/06/2022 10:22 pm, Fran wrote:
>>> On 6/06/2022 4:42 pm, Max wrote:
>>>> On 6/06/2022 4:31 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum
>>>>>>>> decides there should be a republic.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't you?
>>>>>
>>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999.  I would vote No because now I
>>>>>> realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool being
>>>>>> our head of state.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the
>>>> same system of government and laws,
>>>
>>> No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.
>>>
>>> Our system is unique.
>>
>> There may be some slight differences, such as federalism, but most of
>> what we have here is from England.
>>
>> Councils, the traditions of parliament, the way the public service
>> operates. English law still still holds precedent in Australia, and
>> the whole legal system is virtually the same.
>>
>> All of it is from England, except for the federal government and the
>> existence of states, and that is just because of the spatially large
>> nature of our continent.
>
>
> 'English' law does not hold precedent in Australia.

English cases do have precedent in Australia unless there has been a
more recent Australian case that covers the same law.

And apart from a few
> similarities, such as Councils and the devolution of power stemming from
> the Monarch, we're very different.  The Poms don't even have a
> Cosntitution and they have an upper house the is undemocratic.
>> We are a child of England, and to become a republic would be like
>> disowning one's mother or father.
>
> LOL.  Some children just never try to grow up and leave home.  I'm not
> one of them.
>

On 7/06/2022 10:25 pm, Fran wrote:
> On 7/06/2022 6:07 pm, Max wrote:
>> On 6/06/2022 10:22 pm, Fran wrote:
>>> On 6/06/2022 4:42 pm, Max wrote:
>>>> On 6/06/2022 4:31 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum
>>>>>>>> decides there should be a republic.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't you?
>>>>>
>>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999.  I would vote No because now I
>>>>>> realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool being
>>>>>> our head of state.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the
>>>> same system of government and laws,
>>>
>>> No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.
>>>
>>> Our system is unique.
>>
>> There may be some slight differences, such as federalism, but most of
>> what we have here is from England.
>>
>> Councils, the traditions of parliament, the way the public service
>> operates. English law still still holds precedent in Australia, and
>> the whole legal system is virtually the same.
>>
>> All of it is from England, except for the federal government and the
>> existence of states, and that is just because of the spatially large
>> nature of our continent.
>
>
> 'English' law does not hold precedent in Australia. And apart from a few
> similarities, such as Councils and the devolution of power stemming from
> the Monarch, we're very different.  The Poms don't even have a
> Cosntitution

England does have a constitution. It just isn't codified. It is
contained in case law.

and they have an upper house the is undemocratic.
>> We are a child of England, and to become a republic would be like
>> disowning one's mother or father.
>
> LOL.  Some children just never try to grow up and leave home.  I'm not
> one of them.
>

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Fran wrote
>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote

>>>>>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum
>>>>>>>>>>> decides there should be a republic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't
>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999. I would vote No because now
>>>>>>>>> I realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool
>>>>>>>>> being our head of state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>>>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>>>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the
>>>>>>> same system of government and laws,
>>>>>> No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.
>>>>>> Our system is unique.
>>>>
>>>>> There may be some slight differences, such as federalism,
>>>> Nothing slight about a federal system.
>>>>
>>>>> but most of what we have here is from England.
>>>> Wrong. as always.
>>>>
>>>>> Councils, the traditions of parliament, the way the public service
>>>>> operates. English law still still holds precedent in Australia,
>>>> Bullshit it does.
>>>>
>>>>> and the whole legal system is virtually the same.
>>>> Bullshit it is. Some states aren't even actually stupid
>>>> enough to have the common law shit anymore.
>>>>
>>>>> All of it is from England, except for the federalgovernment and the
>>>>> existence of states,
>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>> We aren't actually stupid enough to have a bunch of senile old
>>>> farts, bishops and failed politician having any say on anything.
>>>>
>>>>> and that is just because of the spatially large nature of our
>>>>> continent.
>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> We are a child of England,
>>>> We grew up more than a century ago now.
>>>>
>>>>> and to become a republic would be like disowning one's mother or
>>>>> father.
>>
>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>
>>> The majority of people have UK acenstry.
>> It is far from clear that that is true anymore and its irrelevant
>> anyway.
>> We stopped letting the poms have any say on how we do things
>> more than a century ago now and it makes no sense to have
>> some fuckwit pom like Liz or Big Ears as the head of state.
>>
>>> And it's been that way forever.
>> Its far from clear that it is even true anymore.
>>
>>> The people make up the culture of the country,
>> Yes.
>>
>>> and that is a UK culture.
>> Wrong, as always. It never has been.
>>
>
> What about UK culture do we not have here?

We aren't actually stupid enough to hand billions to some of the
most stinking rich drunks/parasites/inbred fools in the country.

We aren't actually stupid enough to have an upper house
stuffed with senile old farts/bishops/failed politicians either.

We aren't actually stupid enough to have footy
riots every time there is a major football event.

We aren't actually stupid enough to have stupid fools camped
out around military airfields 'protesting' about nukes for decades.

We aren't actually stupid enough to let fools
let down the tires of cars by the street load.

We aren't actually stupid enough to have hordes of ours
show up in a foreign country and winge all the time.

And that is all completely irrelevant to the terminal stupidity
of having some fuckwit pom be the head of state here.

>>> It makes sense to keep the UK head of state until such time as this
>>> country is completely over-run by fuckwits from other countries and
>>> cultures.
>> Wrong, as always.

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> republic needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decides there should be a republic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest,
>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999. I would vote No because
>>>>>>>>>>> now I realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie
>>>>>>>>>>> fool being our head of state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>>>>>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>>>>>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England,
>>>>>>>> We got independence quite some time ago now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and have the same system of government
>>>>>>>> Nope, we have a federal system, dont.
>>>>>>>> We aren't actually stupid enough to have an upper
>>>>>>>> house stuffed with senile old farts and bishops etc
>>>>>>>> who hardly ever bother to show up either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and laws,
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and language. And have very similar culturewith regard to
>>>>>>>>> food, arts, sport and religion.
>>>>>>>> Bullshit we do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It therefore remains a good idea to keep havingthe English
>>>>>>>>> monarch as our head of state,
>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does. And that prat gets no say on anything here
>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> until Australia is totally over-run by people who speakEnglish
>>>>>>>>> as a second language and who are not Christian.
>>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Canada have not become a republic yet.
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why do we think we are any more indepedent or better than them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because we are, and the stupid poms too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you think we would be able to put on the celebrationsfor the
>>>>>>> Jubilee like the way the Poms just did?
>>>>>> Yes we did. And much better than those stupid poms managed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit we would. Our's would be shithouse in comparison.
>>>>
>>>>>> You are free to bugger off there if you prefer they way they do
>>>>>> things.
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I will do that
>>>> No chance they would actually be silly enough to let you.
>>>>
>>>>> and I will still be able to post here,
>>>> Nope, the death squad would have its orders...
>>>>
>>>>> so I can enjoy the greatness of Britain
>>
>>>> Its a failed state. There might just be a reason most of them have
>>>> left.
>>
>>> It is still more important than Australia on the world stage.

>> Irrelevant and there might just be a reason why
>> FAR more poms move here than go the other way.

> Only because their land mass is small.

Wrong, as always. The real reason is because theirs is
a failed state and the least stupid realise that and leave.

>>> The only thing they did wrong is let in so many ethnics.

>> They were also stupid enough to join the EU and eventually
>> managed to work out that that made no sense at all.

>> They were also stupid enough to try to avoid some of
>> their colonys leaving, most obviously with Kenya etc.

> Why wouldn't you try to hang on to your colonies?

Because that never works and they should have
noticed when the yanks kicked them out of theirs.

>> They were also stupid enough to get involved in
>> WW1 and had to be bailed out by the yanks, TWICE.

>> And they are STILL stupid enough let silly senile old farts,
>> bishops and failed politicians have any say on political issues
>> and are still stupid enough to had an immense amount of
>> money every fucking year to the richest people in the fucking
>> country and drunks like Liz's mum.

> Liz's Mum lived to 100 so she can't have been that much of a drunk.

Wrong, as always. Why should the poms be paying for her grog when
she is part of one of the richest group of parasites in the country ?

Its what killed Liz's sister very early on too.

>>>>> and you and everyone else will have to sit therein the shithole
>>>>> that Australia is and suffer.
>>>> I only suffer from pathetic excuses for lying trolls like you.
>>>>
>>>>> Have fun watching Eddie McGuire
>>>> Who ?
>>>>
>>>>> and other Aussie fuckwits.
>>>> Like you.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's only because of fuckwits like Turnbull that anyone does
>>>>>>>>> think that.
>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. There have always been plenty that have
>>>>>>>> seen no sense in having some stupid pom as the head of
>>>>>>>> state even before that fool Turdbull was even born.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Who has no power at all in this country.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluos proof
>>>>>>>>>> that you actually are that terminal a fuckwit.

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 19:02:27 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 7/06/2022 10:25 pm, Fran wrote:
>> On 7/06/2022 6:07 pm, Max wrote:
>>> On 6/06/2022 10:22 pm, Fran wrote:
>>>> On 6/06/2022 4:42 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> On 6/06/2022 4:31 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum
>>>>>>>>> decides there should be a republic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't
>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999. I would vote No because now I
>>>>>>> realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool being
>>>>>>> our head of state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the
>>>>> same system of government and laws,
>>>>
>>>> No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.
>>>>
>>>> Our system is unique.
>>>
>>> There may be some slight differences, such as federalism, but most of
>>> what we have here is from England.
>>>
>>> Councils, the traditions of parliament, the way the public service
>>> operates. English law still still holds precedent in Australia, and
>>> the whole legal system is virtually the same.
>>>
>>> All of it is from England, except for the federal government and the
>>> existence of states, and that is just because of the spatially large
>>> nature of our continent.
>> 'English' law does not hold precedent in Australia.

> English cases do have precedent in Australia

Bullshit they do.

> unless there has been a more recent Australian case that covers the same
> law.

Wrong, as always. Our black letter law is very different in
a host of areas and some states have binned common law.

> And apart from a few
>> similarities, such as Councils and the devolution of power stemming
>> from the Monarch, we're very different. The Poms don't even have a
>> Cosntitution and they have an upper house the is undemocratic.
>>> We are a child of England, and to become a republic would be like
>>> disowning one's mother or father.
>> LOL. Some children just never try to grow up and leave home. I'm not
>> one of them.
>>

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 19:03:21 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 7/06/2022 10:25 pm, Fran wrote:
>> On 7/06/2022 6:07 pm, Max wrote:
>>> On 6/06/2022 10:22 pm, Fran wrote:
>>>> On 6/06/2022 4:42 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> On 6/06/2022 4:31 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>>>>> Max wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To be appointing a "Republic Assistant Minister" (to
>>>>>>>>> Thistlethwaite) is ridiculous, when the question of a republic
>>>>>>>>> needs to be decided by referendum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There should no ministers named as such until a referendum
>>>>>>>>> decides there should be a republic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You've gone gaga over Liz Windsor's 70 year pompfest, haven't
>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I voted Yes to a republic in 1999. I would vote No because now I
>>>>>>> realise how dangerous it would be to have some Aussie fool being
>>>>>>> our head of state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you would rather have some pommy fuckwit that
>>>>>> was actually stupid enough to be conned into marrying
>>>>>> a stupid bimbo and kept on with his slut on the side ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, given that we were actually settled by England, and have the
>>>>> same system of government and laws,
>>>>
>>>> No, we do not have the same system of Government and laws.
>>>>
>>>> Our system is unique.
>>>
>>> There may be some slight differences, such as federalism, but most of
>>> what we have here is from England.
>>>
>>> Councils, the traditions of parliament, the way the public service
>>> operates. English law still still holds precedent in Australia, and
>>> the whole legal system is virtually the same.
>>>
>>> All of it is from England, except for the federal government and the
>>> existence of states, and that is just because of the spatially large
>>> nature of our continent.
>> 'English' law does not hold precedent in Australia. And apart from a
>> few similarities, such as Councils and the devolution of power stemming
>> from the Monarch, we're very different. The Poms don't even have a
>> Cosntitution

> England does have a constitution.

Bullshit it does.

> It just isn't codified. It is contained in case law.

Thats common law, not a constitution, you pig ignorant clown.

> and they have an upper house the is undemocratic.
>>> We are a child of England, and to become a republic would be like
>>> disowning one's mother or father.
>> LOL. Some children just never try to grow up and leave home. I'm not
>> one of them.
>>