Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Search for
>>>>> "cost of Nuclear power plant"

>>>> That's just greeny lies. Obscenely overstating the cost
>>>> of nukes because it includes stupid disassembly costs.

>>>> Makes no sense to disassemble an obsolete nuke, just
>>>> built a new one next to it and fill the old one with concrete
>>>> after the core is removed and stored for recycling.

>>>>> Virgil C. Summer Nuclear Generating Station price got up to $23
>>>>> billion and was abandoned.

>>>> The poms, french, chinese and india and finland etc are all still
>>>> building more and germany has now said that they will too.

>>>>> Search for
>>>>> "cost of Coal power plant"
>>>>> one might get a bit luckier here but a state of art non-air breather
>>>>> (recycles flue gas injecting oxygen into it to make it combustible)
>>>>> still will put out CO2 but much more efficiently.

>>>> Those stupid prices utterly mangle the costs given that the ongoing
>>>> fuel cost of nukes is peanuts and isnt with a coal fired power plant.
`
>>> "Our" media not reporting this?

>> You only read the useless shit media.

> Not all I read

Clearly must be if you didnt see the greeny stupiditys and lies pointed
out.

>>> Took Labor to see sense?

>> Nope.

> Agree

>>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10891127/Anthony-Albanese-calls-coal-power-stations-come-online-climate-change-strategy-shock.html?fbclid=IwAR3dXhLA8vQd8cYRPxr6qC15X9ZmOCkvQxADh7PkpcLl9jUc14Vnm0ezwKg>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/27ck2xto

>> That is just Albo lying thru his fucking teeth.

> Yes wasn't a week later when
> <https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/technology/environment/anthony-albanese-commits-australia-to-higher-emission-reduction-targets/news-story/616363852b50cce37637b5267215c79f>
> https://tinyurl.com/23yovtas
> "Energy Minister Chris Bowen has fired up at a journalist for
> suggesting one thing was the answer to the electricity crisis."

> Albo is full of shit

All pollys are.

>>> Bring back coal NOW: Labor BEGS the energy industry to turn on
>>> MORE fossil fuel-powered plants to help ease the soaring cost of
>>> bills -
>>> just days after declaring they'd take 'real action on climate change'

>> Yep, just another example of Albo lying thru his teeth.

> Agree

>>> Labor has begged industry bosses to fire up all their coal-fuelled
>>> power stations at full capacity to ease the national energy crisis in
>>> a dramatic policy u-turn.

>> Easier said than done when they have failed.

> agree

>>> Just days after promising 'real action on climate change', Labor today
>>> demanded the nation's coal power stations are all brought back into
>>> service as soon as possible.

>> Just more stupid political posturing. Albo has
>> just stupidly promised the UN that he will be
>> cutting back Australia's emissions dramatically.
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-16/australia-updates-emissions-reduction-target-paris-agreement/101157008

>> That pathological liar was running around before the election
>> telling the coal miners that there would be no cuts in coal mining.

> Not turning my Jacuzzi off, nor my cappuccino maker, ect.

> The government needs to restart the coal power plants they shut down

The federal govt didnt shut any down.

The stupid victorian Labor govt did allow the
owners of the latrobe valley brown coal fueled
electricity generation to be shut down.

>>> At least a quarter of Australia's coal-fired
>>> electricity production is currently offline

>> Yep, mostly due to unscheduled generator failure.

>> That one that exploded in Qld will take more than a year to fix.

> They don't explode without reason (lack of funding)

Fraid so, nothing to do with lack of funding, a few do die ocassionally.

>>> while the east coast shivers through a freezing winter

>> Thats a lie. It isnt that cold.

> I have my heaters going.

Most do in winter, stupid.

> Outside is pretty miserable

Bullshit. You got 18 today and no rain. Nothing miserable about that.

>>> amid soaring price rises.

>> That has been stopped too with the cancellation of the spot price
>> market.

>> Tho it remains to be seen how many of the generators will keep
>> their generators running when they are running at a loss with
>> the new $300/kwh cap on what they can charge when that is
>> a loss for some of them, particularly the gas fired generators.

>> Nukes are the way to go, but that takes a long time to happen.

> probably 12 months plenty of them for sale cheaply because of Matt
> Keen types.

Nope, because of Putin.

> But still not THAT cheap $$$$$$

The total life cost is fine and they don't produce CO2

Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>
>>>>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the
>>>>>> generators say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO has
>>>>>> to force them to supply the juice.
>>>>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at the
>>>>>> same time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in Texas:
>>>>>> company A goes offline, and companies B and C get surge pricing.
>>>>>> Then next season, company B goes offline... A gets windfall that
>>>>>> compensates for previous downtime.
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when
>>>>> everyone switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the Power
>>>>> companies schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>>>> It isnt scheduled plant maintenance, it is unscheduled plant failure.
>>
>>> Sure, some of it is 'unscheduled plant failure
>> In fact the bulk of it is.
>>
>>> but I've also heard that some of it is 'scheduled plant maintenance'.

>> In fact fuck all of it is. And it isnt feasible to do all of that in
>> spring and autumn anyway.
>
> Oh! Pray!

Fuck that, I bare my arse at your stupid sky fairy.

> Do tell!

It isnt feasible to have the maintenance people sitting on their
arses twiddling their thumbs for half the fucking year.

well the cunt hasn't done anything during the last 2.5 years obviously to keep Bojo ethical

On 16/06/2022 7:13 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Nomen Nescio wrote on 15/6/22 7:50 pm:
>> It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.
>>
> WHAT? Her 'boyfriend' is gay!! So you mean her 'friend' who is a 'boy'
> is gay, do you?? Or is her 'gay' boyfriend' really 'bi'??

I know it's quiet in here Daniel but surely you shouldn't yet be
desperate enough to play with trolls?

Rod Speed wrote on 16/6/22 7:30 pm:
> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>
>>>>>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the
>>>>>>> generators say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO
>>>>>>> has to force them to supply the juice.
>>>>>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at
>>>>>>> the same time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in
>>>>>>> Texas: company A goes offline, and companies B and C get surge
>>>>>>> pricing. Then next season, company B goes offline... A gets
>>>>>>> windfall that compensates for previous downtime.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when
>>>>>> everyone switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the
>>>>>> Power companies schedule their plant maint during Autumn and Spring.
>>>>>  It isnt scheduled plant maintenance, it is unscheduled plant failure.
>>>
>>>> Sure, some of it is 'unscheduled plant failure
>>>  In fact the bulk of it is.
>>>
>>>> but I've also heard that  some of it is 'scheduled plant maintenance'.
>
>>>  In fact fuck all of it is. And it isnt feasible to do all of that in
>>> spring and autumn anyway.
>>
>> Oh! Pray!
>
> Fuck that, I bare my arse at your stupid sky fairy.
>
>> Do tell!
>
> It isnt feasible to have the maintenance people sitting on their
> arses twiddling their thumbs for half the fucking year.

Correct .... so, if they organise thing properly, the one highly
experienced crew would do the maintenance at several site per year ...
like one of my cousins does/did at various WA mines some time ago.

O.K., that was mines, not generator sites .... but same principle could
apply!
--
Daniel

Fran wrote on 16/6/22 8:42 pm:
> On 16/06/2022 7:13 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Nomen Nescio wrote on 15/6/22 7:50 pm:
>>> It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.
>>>
>> WHAT? Her 'boyfriend' is gay!! So you mean her 'friend' who is a 'boy'
>> is gay, do you?? Or is her 'gay' boyfriend' really 'bi'??
>
> I know it's quiet in here Daniel but surely you shouldn't yet be
> desperate enough to play with trolls?

Hmmm! How should I answer that question??

I have about 80 groups on this news server .... and only about 10 are
seeing any activity .... and, due to one of the trolls/spammers on one
of those 'active' groups being kill-filed by my news provider, I'm
getting desperate for any activity!!

Sorry! ;-P
--
Daniel

Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote
>>>>>>> Ozix wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>> So they capped the wholesale price of electricity, and the
>>>>>>>> generators say eff orf, we ain't selling it that cheap, so AMEO
>>>>>>>> has to force them to supply the juice.
>>>>>>>> AMEO needs to enquire into the shutdowns of so many machines at
>>>>>>>> the same time. Sounds suspiciciously like what went down in
>>>>>>>> Texas: company A goes offline, and companies B and C get surge
>>>>>>>> pricing. Then next season, company B goes offline... A gets
>>>>>>>> windfall that compensates for previous downtime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah!! And as this situation was bound to occur, just like when
>>>>>>> everyone switches their air-conns on in Summer, why don't the
>>>>>>> Power companies schedule their plant maint during Autumn and
>>>>>>> Spring.
>>>>>> It isnt scheduled plant maintenance, it is unscheduled plant
>>>>>> failure.
>>>>
>>>>> Sure, some of it is 'unscheduled plant failure
>>>> In fact the bulk of it is.
>>>>
>>>>> but I've also heard that some of it is 'scheduled plant
>>>>> maintenance'.
>>
>>>> In fact fuck all of it is. And it isnt feasible to do all of that in
>>>> spring and autumn anyway.
>>>
>>> Oh! Pray!
>> Fuck that, I bare my arse at your stupid sky fairy.
>>
>>> Do tell!
>> It isnt feasible to have the maintenance people sitting on their
>> arses twiddling their thumbs for half the fucking year.

> Correct .... so, if they organise thing properly, the one highly
> experienced crew would do the maintenance at several site per year ...

Not even possible with power generators. And wouldn't fix the
problem with maintenance being done in summer and winter anyway.

> like one of my cousins does/did at various WA mines some time ago.

Mines don't have the problem with seasons that power generation does.

> O.K., that was mines, not generator sites .... but same principle could
> apply!

Nope, because mines don't have the problem with seasons that power
generation does.

And the maintenance at mines is nothing even
remotely like what is needed at power generators.

On 16/06/2022 11:57 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Fran wrote on 16/6/22 8:42 pm:
>> On 16/06/2022 7:13 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Nomen Nescio wrote on 15/6/22 7:50 pm:
>>>> It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.
>>>>
>>> WHAT? Her 'boyfriend' is gay!! So you mean her 'friend' who is a
>>> 'boy' is gay, do you?? Or is her 'gay' boyfriend' really 'bi'??
>>
>> I know it's quiet in here Daniel but surely you shouldn't yet be
>> desperate enough to play with trolls?
>
> Hmmm! How should I answer that question??
>
> I have about 80 groups on this news server .... and only about 10 are
> seeing any activity .... and, due to one of the trolls/spammers on one
> of those 'active' groups being kill-filed by my news provider, I'm
> getting desperate for any activity!!
>
> Sorry! ;-P

:-))

Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote in news:t8f1eh$90b$1@dont-email.me:

> On 16/06/2022 7:13 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Nomen Nescio wrote on 15/6/22 7:50 pm:
>>> It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.
>>>
>> WHAT? Her 'boyfriend' is gay!! So you mean her 'friend' who is a 'boy'
>> is gay, do you?? Or is her 'gay' boyfriend' really 'bi'??
>
> I know it's quiet in here Daniel but surely you shouldn't yet be
> desperate enough to play with trolls?
>

Only Fran is allowed to play with torlls.

complete git wrote on 17/6/22 7:41 pm:
> Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
> wrote in news:t8f1eh$90b$1@dont-email.me:
>> On 16/06/2022 7:13 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Nomen Nescio wrote on 15/6/22 7:50 pm:
>>>> It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.
>>>>
>>> WHAT? Her 'boyfriend' is gay!! So you mean her 'friend' who is a 'boy'
>>> is gay, do you?? Or is her 'gay' boyfriend' really 'bi'??
>>
>> I know it's quiet in here Daniel but surely you shouldn't yet be
>> desperate enough to play with trolls?
>
> Only Fran is allowed to play with torlls.
>
"torlls"?? Are you trying to change the Subject: under discussion or
something?? '-P
--
Daniel

On 17/06/2022 7:41 pm, complete git wrote:
> Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
> wrote in news:t8f1eh$90b$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 16/06/2022 7:13 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Nomen Nescio wrote on 15/6/22 7:50 pm:
>>>> It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.
>>>>
>>> WHAT? Her 'boyfriend' is gay!! So you mean her 'friend' who is a 'boy'
>>> is gay, do you?? Or is her 'gay' boyfriend' really 'bi'??
>>
>> I know it's quiet in here Daniel but surely you shouldn't yet be
>> desperate enough to play with trolls?
>>
>
> Only Fran is allowed to play with torlls.

What is a torll?

And why would this Fran Barlow (who as far as I know has never posted to
aus.pol) want to play with multiple torlls?

On 17/06/2022 8:56 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> complete git wrote on 17/6/22 7:41 pm:
>> Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>> wrote in news:t8f1eh$90b$1@dont-email.me:
>>> On 16/06/2022 7:13 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>> Nomen Nescio wrote on 15/6/22 7:50 pm:
>>>>> It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.
>>>>>
>>>> WHAT? Her 'boyfriend' is gay!! So you mean her 'friend' who is a 'boy'
>>>> is gay, do you?? Or is her 'gay' boyfriend' really 'bi'??
>>>
>>> I know it's quiet in here Daniel but surely you shouldn't yet be
>>> desperate enough to play with trolls?
>>
>> Only Fran is allowed to play with torlls.
>>
> "torlls"?? Are you trying to change the Subject: under discussion or
> something?? '-P

I suspect it's trying to troll but is just showing itself to be a
tool/torll.

It's such a relief to have a change of govt. It's like suddenly there
are adults in the room as opposed to the tiresome constant juvenile
sniping, bitching and carping we saw from the previous govt.

No wonder that Perrottet said, with a smirk on this face, that the
cabinet meeting today was 'refreshingly collaborative".

On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 22:11:54 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>It's such a relief to have a change of govt. It's like suddenly there
>are adults in the room as opposed to the tiresome constant juvenile
>sniping, bitching and carping we saw from the previous govt.
>
>No wonder that Perrottet said, with a smirk on this face, that the
>cabinet meeting today was 'refreshingly collaborative".
>
Leftie news source.
Perrottet has given the teal brigade to get in line or go!
certification/endorsement will be by John Howard to select who stays
who goes (Bye Bye Matt Keen)

There now be smoke billowing out of my power plant and I didn't have
to turn off my Jacuzzi or stop using my Coffee machine.

THE RENEWABLES DREAM IS OVER
The constant genuflecting to renewable's and “decarbonisation” by
Labor and the Liberals is the root cause of this energy crisis.
It's now time to bring back coal again.
Matt Kean, wake up.
Net zero means a return to the caveman years, where we huddle around
campfires for heat and use smoke signals to communicate with one
another.

Albo's gone silent on Julian Assange.
Gutless lying prick
--
Petzl

Julian Assange is still dying in prison for the crime of doing journalism and virtually no journalist on the planet cares.

They’re too obsessed with defaming and deplatforming their ideological enemies because journalism is dead.

And so might Julian Assange be pretty soon.

Then Aussies will wake to renewable energy hoax!
Watcha gunna do then tree-huggers?

Fran wrote:
> It's such a relief to have a change of govt.  It's like suddenly there
> are adults in the room as opposed to the tiresome constant juvenile
> sniping, bitching and carping we saw from the previous govt.
>
> No wonder that Perrottet said, with a smirk on this face, that the
> cabinet meeting today was 'refreshingly collaborative".

Final senate results - LNP lost 3, Green gained 3.
Lambie gained 1, SA Patrick/Xenophon bunch lost out.
Pocock suprise new addition.
Unfortunately Pauline scraped back in.
So Albo still faces horse-trading.

Fran wrote on 17/6/22 10:06 pm:
> On 17/06/2022 8:56 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> complete git wrote on 17/6/22 7:41 pm:
>>> Fran
>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>> wrote in news:t8f1eh$90b$1@dont-email.me:
>>>> On 16/06/2022 7:13 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>> Nomen Nescio wrote on 15/6/22 7:50 pm:
>>>>>> It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.
>>>>>>
>>>>> WHAT? Her 'boyfriend' is gay!! So you mean her 'friend' who
>>>>> is a 'boy' is gay, do you?? Or is her 'gay' boyfriend' really
>>>>> 'bi'??
>>>>
>>>> I know it's quiet in here Daniel but surely you shouldn't yet
>>>> be desperate enough to play with trolls?
>>>
>>> Only Fran is allowed to play with torlls.
>>>
>> "torlls"?? Are you trying to change the Subject: under discussion
>> or something?? '-P
>
> I suspect it's trying to troll

"suspect"?? Come on, Fran, you can be more certain than that, can't
you?? ;-P

> but is just showing itself to be a tool/torll.
--
Daniel

Nomen Nescio wrote on 18/6/22 12:31 pm:
> Then Aussies will wake to renewable energy hoax!
> Watcha gunna do then tree-huggers?
>
Use Hydro, maybe!
--
Daniel

Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
> Nomen Nescio wrote

>> Then Aussies will wake to renewable energy hoax!

And everyone will be dead quite soon, fuckwit.

>> Watcha gunna do then tree-huggers?

> Use Hydro, maybe!

Nowhere near enough of that and everyone will be dead anyway with no sun.

e, 2.718281828

2718281828th prime, 64828350799

99705382846-64828350799= 34877032047

34877032047/99=352293253

352392253-352293253=99000

99000/99=1000

99th prime, 523

523/99=5.28...

5/0.28...=17.67857143
17/0.67857143
....
=475.0000001

523-475=48

5*0.28...=1.41...

9!/1.41...=256608

256608/48=5346

5346/99=54

On 18/06/2022 7:41 pm, Ozix wrote:
> Fran wrote:
>> It's such a relief to have a change of govt.  It's like suddenly there
>> are adults in the room as opposed to the tiresome constant juvenile
>> sniping, bitching and carping we saw from the previous govt.
>>
>> No wonder that Perrottet said, with a smirk on this face, that the
>> cabinet meeting today was 'refreshingly collaborative".
>
> Final senate results - LNP lost 3, Green gained 3.
> Lambie gained 1, SA Patrick/Xenophon bunch lost out.
> Pocock suprise new addition.
> Unfortunately Pauline scraped back in.
> So Albo still faces horse-trading.

He's a good horse trader though so shouldn't have too much of an issue.
Super glad that Pocock got in a Zed didn't. I think the bloody Greens
learned a very hard lesson when they stuffed up and denied Labor support
because the Greens wouldn't horse trade last tiem round and wanted it
all rather than 'something is better than nothing'. I lost a lot of
respect for them over that debacle.

On 18/06/2022 8:21 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Fran wrote on 17/6/22 10:06 pm:
>> On 17/06/2022 8:56 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> complete git wrote on 17/6/22 7:41 pm:
>>>> Fran
>>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
> >>> wrote in news:t8f1eh$90b$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>> On 16/06/2022 7:13 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>>>>> Nomen Nescio wrote on 15/6/22 7:50 pm:
>>>>>>> It is spread by gay poofters, like her boyfriend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHAT? Her 'boyfriend' is gay!! So you mean her 'friend' who
>>>>>> is a 'boy' is gay, do you?? Or is her 'gay' boyfriend' really
>>>>>> 'bi'??
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it's quiet in here Daniel but surely you shouldn't yet
>>>>> be desperate enough to play with trolls?
>>>>
>>>> Only Fran is allowed to play with torlls.
>>>>
>>> "torlls"?? Are you trying to change the Subject: under discussion
>>> or something?? '-P
>>
>> I suspect it's trying to troll
>
> "suspect"?? Come on, Fran, you can be more certain than that, can't
> you?? ;-P

Well yeah I might be but then to be sure I'd need more certainty. It's
such a limp and hopeless attempt at a troll that it could just be that
it's suffering from terminal dimwittedness.

On 18/06/2022 8:26 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Nomen Nescio wrote on 18/6/22 12:31 pm:
>> Then Aussies will wake to renewable energy hoax!

Solar power works so all you are doing is hoping that all live on earth
with cease. NOTHING can live without the sun. Or are you too stupid to
know that?

>> Watcha gunna do then tree-huggers?

The same as you will do without sunlight you moron. We'll all dies and
life on earth with cease.

> Use Hydro, maybe!

I wonder how long hydro would continue to operate with all sunlight
obliterated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RgC_LHxbzE