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* The Right To Breed And *Not* To Breedcorella
+* SURE, IT WASN"T ME! (Blame my naughty fingers instead.)Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil
|`- SURE, IT WASN"T ME! (Blame my naughty fingers instead.)Daniel65
+* Sphinxcorella
|`- Sphinxcorella
+* It must be true ... if a habitual liar says so!Ördög - the Newsgroup Devil
|+- It must be true ... if a habitual liar says so!Fran
|`- It must be true ... if a habitual liar says so!Arindam Banerjee
+- The *Incompetence* A-TEAMÖrdög - the Newsgroup Devil
+* Growth Is It Good Or Is It Evilcorella
|`- Growth Is It Good Or Is It EvilRod Speed
+* self-funded retirees rejoice at interest riseOzix
|`* self-funded retirees rejoice at interest riseRod Speed
| `* self-funded retirees rejoice at interest riseDaniel65
|  `* self-funded retirees rejoice at interest riseRod Speed
|   `* self-funded retirees rejoice at interest risePetzl
|    `- self-funded retirees rejoice at interest riseRod Speed
+- Too Many Mistakescorella
+- 12corella
+- Edvard_Grieg_-_Peer_Gynt_Suite_No.1._Morning_Mood._Pcorella
+* 909corella
|`- 909corella
+* virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindMrPostingRobot
|+- virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindRod Speed
|+- virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindArindam Banerjee
|`* virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindDaniel65
| `* virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindRod Speed
|  `- virus update: india in trouble, australia not far behindDaniel65
+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardÖrdög - the Newsgroup Devil
|+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||| `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||  `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||   `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||    `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||     `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||      `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||       `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||        `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         | `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |  `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         |   `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |    `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         |     `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |      `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         |       `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |        `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         |         `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         |          `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||         |           `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||         `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||          +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard* Ördög * - - the Petz Buster -
|||          |`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||          | `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||          +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iWhataWonderfulWorld
|||          |`- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||          `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||           +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||           |`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||           | `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||           |  `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||           |   `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||           |    `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
|||           |     `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
|||           `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||            `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
|||| `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics imax headroom
||||  ||+- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  ||+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |||`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics imax headroom
||||  ||| `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  ||`- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  | `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |  `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |   `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |    `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |     `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |      `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |       `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  |        `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
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||||  |          `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
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||||  |            `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iMattb
||||  |             `- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||  `* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardDaniel65
||||   +* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
||||   |+* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardRod Speed
||||   ||`- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hard right politics iPetzl
||||   |`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardDaniel65
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|||`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardTrevor Wilson
||`* OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardTrevor Wilson
|+- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardArindam Banerjee
|`- OT: This is the horrifying end-result of many decades long hardFran
+* PHON fielding quantum candidates who don't even live in same stateOzix
+* Dan Andrews grilled by IBAC againNomen Nescio
`* 'Babbling moron' Kamala Harris shouldn't be a 'heartbeat away' from the presidenbuh buh biden

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Re: Australian Christian Lobby wants abortion banned here

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 12:20 UTC

Rod Speed wrote on 28/6/22 10:52 am:

<Snip>

> <reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
> belongs>

Ah!! So 'reams' is a synonym for 'one line' .... cause that's all you
'flushed' of Trevor's post, Rod!!
--
Daniel

Re: OT: The absolute madhouse that US politic was under creep Trump.

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In news:WtrvK.23259$cVE6.783@fx11.ams4, �rd�g
<newsgroup.devil@Hell.Incorporated.biz> typed:

>>> *Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
>>> steering wheel | The World*
>>> /ABC News (Australia)/
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE

>> Found to be lying crap.

> Nope! The article was based on a number of public testimonies given
> under oath to the Committee investigating the MAGA riot in the Capitol.

Testimony based on hearsay is not admissible in a court of law but it is
admissible before a partisan Congressional committee.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/29/jan-6-hutchinson-secret-service-00043164

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/06/30/cassidy-hutchinsons-bombshell-testimony-takes-another-body-blow-n586666

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Re: OT: The absolute madhouse that US politic was under creep Trump.

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 23:06 UTC

On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 19:44:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 19:02:22 +1000, Trevor Wilson
><trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 30/06/2022 8:38 am, Ördög wrote:
>>> *Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
>>> steering wheel | The World*
>>> /ABC News (Australia)/
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE>
>>> "A former top aide in the White House has detailed Donald Trump's
>>> relentless efforts to join protesters at the capitol on the day of the
>>> riots. In a surprise hearing, Cassidy Hutchinson provided 'damning'
>>> testimony to the US capitol riot committee, outlining that Mr Trump
>>> knew some in the crowd were armed. The Hill's Julia Manchester tells
>>> The World it's been "a shock" to many in Washington hearing how things
>>> played out behind the scenes."
>>> ~~~~
>>> And yet MAGA Trumpism is still much alive and well in all levels of US
>>> governments, law enforcement and the judiciary ... with or without
>>> Trump at the the helm.
>>> On the second thought...was he truly ever at the helm or rather were
>>> very powerful people in the shadows around him steering this bumbling
>>> intellectually deficient idiot all along to serve their own plutocratic
>>> corporate capitalist political ends.
>>> More than ever it has become a certainty that Trump was (and still is)
>>> a political/cultural symptom of a sick, decaying, out of wack and
>>> totally far-right shifted society that is incapable of shaking off the
>>> social rot that GOP/Trumpism/MAGA represents.
>
>> It's about to get worse for the US
>
>Bullshit.
>
>> (and the rest of us):
>
>Even more mindless bullshit.
>
>> https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanoxia/2022/06/30/shock-doctrine-the-u-s-supreme-court-has-declared-war-on-humanity/
>
>Just because some fool claims somethihng...
>
The purpose of each state governor decides if voting is done
appropriately or not.
Not the courts.
--
Petzl
What is the harm of for the Democrats validating the voting system.
Is it because the Democrats have something to hide?

Amazing to think that Lyndon Johnson perfected the
'sit-wait-see how many we need to win-then dump our
stuffed ballots at the last moment' electoral technique
in post-war Texas, and nothing has changed in US elections
in the 7 decades since.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_election_in_Texas#Legal_battle>
The Left is fine with Vaccine Cards
but NOT voter IDs. Paying attention yet?

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 by: Ördög - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 23:21 UTC

Rod Speed, the Alzheimer ridden angry old fart:

/snip/

> Fuck subtitled anything.

How typical of you. :P
Creeps like you can only write (the usual bullshit due to those angry
voices in your head).
But you have never learned to read (and understand) anything properly.

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

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 by: Ördög - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 23:25 UTC

max headroom, looking for his long lost brain

/snip all MAGA trolling septic trash/

FOAD lowlife gun-fucker Trumpist creep.

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Re: OT: The absolute madhouse that US politic was under creep Trump.

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 by: Ördög - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 23:28 UTC

Rod Speed, the Alzheimer ridden angry old fart

> Bullshit.
> Even more mindless bullshit.

Perfect self assessment on the totality of your Usenet input.

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Re: Borgen

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 23:34 UTC

On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 09:21:38 +1000, Ördög
<newsgroup.devil@Hell.Incorporated.biz> wrote:

>Rod Speed, the Alzheimer ridden angry old fart:
>
>/snip/
>
>> Fuck subtitled anything.
>
>How typical of you. :P
>Creeps like you can only write (the usual bullshit due to those angry
>voices in your head).
>But you have never learned to read (and understand) anything properly.
>
Rod Speed is the most talented informative and cluey poster here.
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Re: OT: The absolute madhouse that US politic was under creep Trump.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 23:34 UTC

On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 09:06:28 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 19:44:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 19:02:22 +1000, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/06/2022 8:38 am, Ördög wrote:
>>>> *Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
>>>> steering wheel | The World*
>>>> /ABC News (Australia)/
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE>
>>>> "A former top aide in the White House has detailed Donald Trump's
>>>> relentless efforts to join protesters at the capitol on the day of the
>>>> riots. In a surprise hearing, Cassidy Hutchinson provided 'damning'
>>>> testimony to the US capitol riot committee, outlining that Mr Trump
>>>> knew some in the crowd were armed. The Hill's Julia Manchester tells
>>>> The World it's been "a shock" to many in Washington hearing how things
>>>> played out behind the scenes."
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> And yet MAGA Trumpism is still much alive and well in all levels of
>>>> US
>>>> governments, law enforcement and the judiciary ... with or without
>>>> Trump at the the helm.
>>>> On the second thought...was he truly ever at the helm or rather were
>>>> very powerful people in the shadows around him steering this bumbling
>>>> intellectually deficient idiot all along to serve their own
>>>> plutocratic
>>>> corporate capitalist political ends.
>>>> More than ever it has become a certainty that Trump was (and still
>>>> is)
>>>> a political/cultural symptom of a sick, decaying, out of wack and
>>>> totally far-right shifted society that is incapable of shaking off the
>>>> social rot that GOP/Trumpism/MAGA represents.
>>
>>> It's about to get worse for the US
>>
>> Bullshit.
>>
>>> (and the rest of us):
>>
>> Even more mindless bullshit.
>>
>>> https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanoxia/2022/06/30/shock-doctrine-the-u-s-supreme-court-has-declared-war-on-humanity/
>>
>> Just because some fool claims somethihng...
>>
> The purpose of each state governor decides if voting is done
> appropriately or not.
> Not the courts.

Bullshit.

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 by: Ördög - Fri, 1 Jul 2022 23:53 UTC

Max just keeps on trolling

/Autosnip all virulent trolling crap/

/and snip some more manually/

> On 28/06/2022 10:29 am, Fran wrote:
>> That is just a bullshit strawman.  MY  'premise' (as opposed to your
>> strawman claim) is that survival of the fetus depends on the placenta!
>>
>> Yawn.  You're answering your own strawman and not anything I wrote
>>
>> More strawman answering on your part......
>>
>> So?  Who, other than you, (and that idiot Max who clearly has no idea
>> about human DNA) even mentioned DNA of the fetus.
>>
>
> Are you seriously disputing the fact that a fetus has human DNA and a
> tumor does not?
>

Hmmm. I don't see Fran disputing anything about DNA.
But you do!

Obviously you don't understand that cancer cells also posses the full
genetic info of the host with some tiny but sadly very significant point
mutations that effects cell secretions, cell division and cell life
longevity. That is a huge problem for those scientists who seek
immunological methods for destroying cancerous growth as they have to
somehow coax human poly-clonal antibodies to attack human cells
(monoclonal antibodies don't always work as they are derived from mice
obtained cell cultures).

>> So do explain how a male can get the fetus to term without a woman's
>> body being involved?

Oh, its easy ... one just have to join the political ultra conservative
hard-right alternate reality brigade to make that happen... LOL!

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 by: Ördög - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 00:08 UTC

Petz

> Ördög
>
>> Rod Speed, the Alzheimer ridden angry old fart:
>>
>> /snip/
>>
>>> Fuck subtitled anything.
>>
>> How typical of you. :P
>> Creeps like you can only write (the usual bullshit due to those angry
>> voices in your head).
>> But you have never learned to read (and understand) anything properly.
>>
> Rod Speed is the most talented informative and cluey poster here.

Somehow, Petz dear (and you may take this fact as hard as possible) your
wholehearted endorsement of this angry old fart's rightard, ego maniac,
regularly abusive and fully ridiculous Usenet posts worth to most of us
in the newsgroup a big fat nothing. Zero, zilch nada.

Why? Because you yourself have zero credibility here. Have you actually
ever wondered why you have become the widely acknowledged village idiot
of aus.politics?

:P :P :P :P

Oh, and BTW I can't be bordered this time around to respond to your
idiot sig.

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 by: Max - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 00:38 UTC

On 2/07/2022 9:53 am, Ördög wrote:
> Max just  keeps on trolling
>
> /Autosnip all virulent trolling crap/
>
> /and snip some more manually/
>
>> On 28/06/2022 10:29 am, Fran wrote:
>>> That is just a bullshit strawman.  MY  'premise' (as opposed to your
>>> strawman claim) is that survival of the fetus depends on the placenta!
>>>
>>> Yawn.  You're answering your own strawman and not anything I wrote
>>>
>>> More strawman answering on your part......
>>>
>>> So?  Who, other than you, (and that idiot Max who clearly has no idea
>>> about human DNA) even mentioned DNA of the fetus.
>>>
>>
>> Are you seriously disputing the fact that a fetus has human DNA and a
>> tumor does not?
>>
>
> Hmmm. I don't see Fran disputing anything about DNA.
> But you do!
>
> Obviously you don't understand that cancer cells also posses the full
> genetic info of the host with some tiny but sadly very significant point
> mutations that effects cell secretions, cell division and cell life
> longevity.

Thanks for confirming that the DNA of a tumor is different to the fetus.

That is a huge problem for those scientists who seek
> immunological methods for destroying cancerous growth as they have to
> somehow coax human poly-clonal antibodies to attack human cells
> (monoclonal antibodies don't always work as they are derived from mice
> obtained cell cultures).
>
>>> So do explain how a male can get the fetus to term without a woman's
>>> body being involved?
>
> Oh, its easy ... one just have to join the political ultra conservative
> hard-right alternate reality brigade to make that happen... LOL!
>

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 by: br - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 00:42 UTC

On 20/6/22 20:01, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> They are decent Christian folk, who work hard and don't
> form criminal gangs like Vietnamese or Sudaneses.
> Do not run terrorist training camps like the arselifters.
> Do not whinge like Poms.
>

Just check the tatts first and make sure there arent any swastikas or
portraits of A.Hitler on them.

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 by: Petzl - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 00:50 UTC

On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:08:36 +1000, Ördög
<newsgroup.devil@Hell.Incorporated.biz> wrote:

>> Rod Speed is the most talented informative and cluey poster here.
>
<reams of stinking shit flushed where it belongs>
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but they are still lying.
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Re: OT: The absolute madhouse that US politic was under creep Trump.

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 by: Fran - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 01:03 UTC

On 1/07/2022 7:02 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 30/06/2022 8:38 am, Ördög wrote:
>> *Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
>> steering wheel | The World*
>> /ABC News (Australia)/
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE>
>>
>> "A former top aide in the White House has detailed Donald Trump's
>> relentless efforts to join protesters at the capitol on the day of the
>> riots. In a surprise hearing, Cassidy Hutchinson provided 'damning'
>> testimony to the US capitol riot committee, outlining that Mr Trump
>> knew some in the crowd were armed. The Hill's Julia Manchester tells
>> The World it's been "a shock" to many in Washington hearing how things
>> played out behind the scenes."
>>
>> ~~~~
>>
>> And yet MAGA Trumpism is still much alive and well in all levels of US
>> governments, law enforcement and the judiciary ... with or without
>> Trump at the the helm.
>> On the second thought...was he truly ever at the helm  or rather were
>> very powerful people in the shadows around him steering this bumbling
>> intellectually deficient idiot all along to serve their own
>> plutocratic corporate capitalist political ends.
>>
>> More than ever it has become a certainty that Trump was (and still is)
>> a political/cultural symptom of a sick, decaying, out of wack and
>> totally far-right shifted society that is incapable of shaking off the
>> social rot that GOP/Trumpism/MAGA represents.
>>
>>
>
> **It's about to get worse for the US (and the rest of us):
>
> https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanoxia/2022/06/30/shock-doctrine-the-u-s-supreme-court-has-declared-war-on-humanity/

Yep. Just a couple of nights ago, my husband was obviously totally lost
in thought so I quizzed him on what he was thinking. He's not a fan of
the US in any way other than it sometimes produces music he likes to
listen to. He had to spend a lot of time there when working for the
govt and his short summary of the place is that "It's fucked".

Anyhoo, in expalaining what he'd been thinking about, he too mentioned
that decision you cite but also went on to talk about the implications
that decision (and other US policies and the situation in Europe) would
have on the world. It was not a pretty scenario he presented but I do
agree with him on all that he said. In short, the world is not in a
good position ATM. Thank God we got rid of that previous evil and
incompetent govt with hard times facing us.

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On 1/07/2022 7:18 pm, Ozix wrote:
> Fran wrote:
>> On SBS catchup/iview- good Danish drama on politics.
>
> SBS also had The Minister (from Iceland) a year or 2 back;
> was a pretty good take on Nordic politics.

Missed it. I wonder if it's still there lurking in their huge list of
shows to stream? Thanks for the mention.

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On 2/07/2022 10:08 am, Ördög wrote:
> Petz

>> Rod Speed is the most talented informative and cluey poster here.

>
> Somehow, Petz dear (and you may take this fact as hard as possible) your
> wholehearted endorsement of this angry old fart's rightard, ego maniac,
> regularly abusive and fully ridiculous Usenet posts worth to most of us
> in the newsgroup a big fat nothing. Zero, zilch nada.
>
> Why? Because you yourself have zero credibility here. Have you actually
> ever wondered why you have become the widely acknowledged village idiot
> of aus.politics?

Yep. Our pretzel giving anyone an positive endorsement is fatal to the
person who he endorses. Poor Roddles should be mortified.

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 by: Fran - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 01:15 UTC

On 1/07/2022 9:15 pm, Max wrote:
> On 28/06/2022 10:29 am, Fran wrote:
>> On 28/06/2022 1:02 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 27/06/2022 10:08 am, Fran wrote:
>>>> On 27/06/2022 11:02 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 27/06/2022 4:27 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 8:14 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 7:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:59 am, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:49 am, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Well, it didn't take the fundies long to crawl out of the
>>>>>>>>>> shandows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Abortion should be banned - it is killing an unborn child.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Dunno about you, but, as a male, I have no right to tell a
>>>>>>>> woman what she may do with HER body. You should realise that
>>>>>>>> giving birth is one of the most deadly acts a woman can engage in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/mothers-babies/maternal-deaths-in-australia/contents/maternal-deaths-in-australia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In any case, I fully respect a woman's right not to have an
>>>>>>>> abortion, if she wishes. Likewise, I respect a woman's right to
>>>>>>>> have a safe abortion, should she wish.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And again: Assuming you are a male, then you can stick your
>>>>>>>> opinion where the Sun don't shine. This is a woman's choice, not
>>>>>>>> a male's. If a woman chooses not to engage in the potentially
>>>>>>>> deadly act of giving birth, then she should be supported for her
>>>>>>>> choice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about the rights of the unborn child?  When do they get a
>>>>>>> say in what happens?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **I will say once more:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are a male, then stick your opinions up your arse. This is
>>>>>> a matter for women. The foetus cannot survive without a woman.
>>>>>> Therefore, it is part of a woman's body. Therefore, it is a
>>>>>> WOMAN'S choice. Not your and not mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not an 'unborn child'. It is a foetus. It is a WOMAN'S choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not against abortions within reason but your arguments are stupid.
>>>>
>>>> Are they?  Explain how a fetus can survive without a woman's body?
>>>
>>> It's irrelevant and that argument relies on the false premise that
>>> the fetus is part of the woman.
>>
>> That is just a bullshit strawman.  MY  'premise' (as opposed to your
>> strawman claim) is that survival of the fetus depends on the placenta!
>>
>> It's not. Scientifically, logically and
>>> biologically the fetus is growing inside of the woman but not part of
>>> the woman...
>>
>> Yawn.  You're answering your own strawman and not anything I wrote
>>
>> in spades because the genetic code of a fetus is unique,
>>> not *shared* with the woman as it would be if the fetus was part of
>>> the woman.
>>
>> More strawman answering on your part......
>>
>>> This is an undisputed scientific and biological fact.
>>
>> So?  Who, other than you, (and that idiot Max who clearly has no idea
>> about human DNA) even mentioned DNA of the fetus.
>>
>
> Are you seriously disputing the fact that a fetus has human DNA and a
> tumor does not?

Fuck you are dumb! I KNOW that a fetus AND a tumour BOTH have human DNA.

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On 1/07/2022 10:14 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Fran wrote on 28/6/22 10:48 am:
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> <Snip>
>
>> :-))  Just be thankful not to own poor Roddles addled brain.  He
>> (maybe) knows what he means but he's not letting the rest of us in on it.
>
> Oh, come on, Fran. Rod always knows exactly what he means ...... it's
> just we poor mortals who have trouble making any sense of what he
> types!! ;-P

Hmmm. I'm not convinced.

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On 2/07/2022 10:38 am, Max wrote:
> On 2/07/2022 9:53 am, Ördög wrote:
>> Max just  keeps on trolling
>>
>> /Autosnip all virulent trolling crap/
>>
>> /and snip some more manually/
>>
>>> On 28/06/2022 10:29 am, Fran wrote:
>>>> That is just a bullshit strawman.  MY  'premise' (as opposed to your
>>>> strawman claim) is that survival of the fetus depends on the placenta!
>>>>
>>>> Yawn.  You're answering your own strawman and not anything I wrote
>>>>
>>>> More strawman answering on your part......
>>>>
>>>> So?  Who, other than you, (and that idiot Max who clearly has no
>>>> idea about human DNA) even mentioned DNA of the fetus.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you seriously disputing the fact that a fetus has human DNA and a
>>> tumor does not?
>>>
>>
>> Hmmm. I don't see Fran disputing anything about DNA.
>> But you do!
>>
>> Obviously you don't understand that cancer cells also posses the full
>> genetic info of the host with some tiny but sadly very significant
>> point mutations that effects cell secretions, cell division and cell
>> life longevity.
>
> Thanks for confirming that the DNA of a tumor is different to the fetus.

Fuck you are dumb!!!!!!

He's confirming that the DNA of cells IS human but it's mutated. The
clue is in Ordog's first sentence "cancer cells also possess the full
genetic info OF THE HOST"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So dumbo, if the host that has the cancer/tumour is a human, it's a
cancer/tumour that has HUMAN DNA. Not duck DNA, not Babboon DNA or any
other sort of DNA, it's human DNA.

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Max on his trolling tour of aus.politics.\

> Ördög wrote:
>> Max just  keeps on trolling
>>
>> /Autosnip all virulent trolling crap/
>>
>> /and snip some more manually/
>>
>>> On 28/06/2022 10:29 am, Fran wrote:
>>>> That is just a bullshit strawman.  MY  'premise' (as opposed to your
>>>> strawman claim) is that survival of the fetus depends on the placenta!
>>>>
>>>> Yawn.  You're answering your own strawman and not anything I wrote
>>>>
>>>> More strawman answering on your part......
>>>>
>>>> So?  Who, other than you, (and that idiot Max who clearly has no
>>>> idea about human DNA) even mentioned DNA of the fetus.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you seriously disputing the fact that a fetus has human DNA and a
>>> tumor does not?
>>>
>>
>> Hmmm. I don't see Fran disputing anything about DNA.
>> But you do!
>>
>> Obviously you don't understand that cancer cells also posses the full
>> genetic info of the host with some tiny but sadly very significant
>> point mutations that effects cell secretions, cell division and cell
>> life longevity.
>
> Thanks for confirming that the DNA of a tumor is different to the fetus.
>
Thanks for confirming your scientific semi literacy.

Point mutations are also possible in the cells of a developing fetus.
What do you thinks birth defects and many of the spontaneous
miscarriages are due to, eh?

Even more significantly not all point mutations are defects of importance.

Please do try catching up on the science of genetics before you spew
cooked up semi-literate pretend scientific crap supporting your own
political bigotry.

NEXT!
>
>  That is a huge problem for those scientists who seek
>> immunological methods for destroying cancerous growth as they have to
>> somehow coax human poly-clonal antibodies to attack human cells
>> (monoclonal antibodies don't always work as they are derived from mice
>> obtained cell cultures).
>>
>>>> So do explain how a male can get the fetus to term without a woman's
>>>> body being involved?
>>
>> Oh, its easy ... one just have to join the political ultra
>> conservative hard-right alternate reality brigade to make that
>> happen... LOL!
>>
>

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Re: Borgen

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 by: Ördög - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 02:21 UTC

Petz, the village idiot of aus.pol has declared.

> <reams of stinking shit flushed where it belongs>

You have completely given up on any attempt at originality.
And no-one here is really surprised.

You have reduced yourself to re-parroting the very same boring pathetic
replies your Alzheimer ridden and anger management disaster boyfriend
has cooked up decades ago...alas in its actual effect it has now become
stale, meaningless and repetitive. Boring as Hell.

I still ignore your idiot sig...you can safely give up trying so hard.

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Re: OT: The absolute madhouse that US politic was under creep Trump.

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 by: Petzl - Sat, 2 Jul 2022 03:03 UTC

On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 11:03:31 +1000, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>> https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanoxia/2022/06/30/shock-doctrine-the-u-s-supreme-court-has-declared-war-on-humanity/
>
>
>Yep. Just a couple of nights ago, my husband was obviously totally lost
>in thought so I quizzed him on what he was thinking. He's not a fan of
>the US in any way other than it sometimes produces music he likes to
>listen to. He had to spend a lot of time there when working for the
>govt and his short summary of the place is that "It's fucked".
>
>Anyhoo, in expalaining what he'd been thinking about, he too mentioned
>that decision you cite but also went on to talk about the implications
>that decision (and other US policies and the situation in Europe) would
>have on the world. It was not a pretty scenario he presented but I do
>agree with him on all that he said. In short, the world is not in a
>good position ATM. Thank God we got rid of that previous evil and
>incompetent govt with hard times facing us.
>
Replaced with communist Anthony Albanese who is a multimillionaire
from just keeping his rather large arse in a chair, snout and trotters
in trough, from tax payers never worked in a real job.

What's your husbands thoughts on Russia and China compared to USA.
I agree the USA has been fucked since the days of George Washington.
Didn't think much of Trump to start with, but him dobbing in the fraud
that gets people over there elected, I see as a big plus.
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What is the harm of for the Democrats validating the voting system.
Is it because the Democrats have something to hide?

Amazing to think that Lyndon Johnson perfected the
'sit-wait-see how many we need to win-then dump our
stuffed ballots at the last moment' electoral technique
in post-war Texas, and nothing has changed in US elections
in the 7 decades since.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_election_in_Texas#Legal_battle>
The Left is fine with Vaccine Cards
but NOT voter IDs. Paying attention yet?

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