> Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
> life. Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions and then as a
> pathetic politician.

They won't let you be an union boss unless you do some work somehow, sometime.
At the least, you gotta be a heavy.
But Albo does not have that physique. He must have done something.

God knows what it will do to our country in 3
> years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.

Let us see. Depends upon what he wants. Let him please get the idea that
CO2 is a heavy gas so fossil fuels when burnt near the ground sink to the
ground, get absorbed by plants, seas and streams, and finally end up as
limestone. However when jet fuel is burnt at 12000 m the CO2 formed there
takes a long time to come down, especially when the amount keeps on
getting replenished and increased when there is no pandemic to shut down
flights. That CO2 forms the greenhouse effect, that is, sending back the
radiant energy from the Earth back to the Earth instead of letting it go to
outer space. It is this greenhouse effect that is creating climate imbalances.

Replacing jet fuel with hydrides is what German engineers are up to, as
I found in the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait. Such works need support, as
opposed to work on reducing carbon emissions on the ground.

On Wed, 25 May 2022 14:50:25 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 May 2022 20:21:41 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, 25 May 2022 at 09:38:17 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 06:26:36 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Thursday, 12 May 2022 at 15:57:14 UTC+10, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> >> Looks like he is already in.
>>> >
>>> >He is in.
>>> >Made his affirmation as PM without any sort of religious text in hand.
>>> >Is that a first?
>>> >
>>> Supposed to be elected by a full sitting not sure if Labor has over
>>> 50% of the seats yet, They may need votes by independents other
>>> parties to legitimize this
>>
>> That may be, but on TV before the G-G he did not have any religious
>> text with him
>> for the affirmation of his post as PM, and that could be a first.
>> It does not matter if Labour does not have 50% seats.
>> So long as they have enough to form a coalition government, Albo is PM.
>> I don't think any further affirmation is needed. He is legitimate
>> enough for the G-G
>> but maybe not for you, Petzl, as he did not have your Anglican Bible in
>> hand for the
>> affirmation.
>>
> I have zero hopes that Anthony Albanese can Follow the opening words
> to our Constitution, "Whereas the people of...", comes the clause:
> "...humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God..."

No PM ever gets to follow a PREABLE, stupid.

> That's our
> legally defined new testament God our Christian God

Nope, dope.

> Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire

Bullshit he is.

> and never worked a day in its life.

That's a lie, he worked for the ComBank for 2 years.

> Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions

Nope, was never a union goon.

> and then as a pathetic politician. God knows what it will do toour
> country in 3 years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.

We survived the Dud and Julia and will survive Albo too, you watch.

> He is a Whitlam disciple

> Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
> no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
> people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
> from a very different way of life.”

> In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
> prejudice against Vietnamese because he thought they might be
> politically hostile to Labor.

Yep, he was that stupid. And didn't give a shit about East Timor either.

> Now Independent Dai Le who fucked off Albo's whore is under attack by
> supporters of treason telling lies!

> Anthony Albanese and his party aare now guilty of treason spreading
> poisonous lies.

That's not treason.

> <https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/federal-election/independent-fowler-mp-dai-le-facing-questions-after-claiming-she-had-never-held-foreign-citizenship-on-aec-declaration/news-story/1a9bd63932693a4cca6adc238aaa2c5a>
> https://tinyurl.com/2cdqfso8

Just because some fool claims something...

> Independent Fowler MP Dai Le facing questions after claiming she had
> never held foreign citizenship on AEC declaration

> Newly elected independent candidate for Fowler Dai Le is facing
> questions after she declared she had never held citizenship of another
> country other than Australia.

Can't see that ever flying.

And her mum imported drugs from Vietnam and got caught doing that.

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>> Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
>> life. Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions and then as a
>> pathetic politician.

> They won't let you be an union boss

He was never a union boss or even a union goon.

> unless you do some work somehow, sometime.

He did work for the ComBank for a couple of years.

> At the least, you gotta be a heavy.

Bullshit.

> But Albo does not have that physique.

Neither does Shorten who was at one time a union goon.

> He must have done something.

He was never a union goon, let alone a union boss.

>> God knows what it will do to our country in 3
>> years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.

> Let us see. Depends upon what he wants.

Clearly he wants to be the PM and has achieved that. for now.

<reams of mindless greenshit flushed where it belongs>

On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:25:37 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
>> life. Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions and then as a
>> pathetic politician.
>
>They won't let you be an union boss unless you do some work somehow, sometime.
>At the least, you gotta be a heavy.
>But Albo does not have that physique. He must have done something.
>
Farted "yab" in their direction

>God knows what it will do to our country in 3
>> years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.
>
>Let us see. Depends upon what he wants. Let him please get the idea that
>CO2 is a heavy gas so fossil fuels when burnt near the ground sink to the
>ground, get absorbed by plants, seas and streams, and finally end up as
>limestone. However when jet fuel is burnt at 12000 m the CO2 formed there
>takes a long time to come down, especially when the amount keeps on
>getting replenished and increased when there is no pandemic to shut down
>flights. That CO2 forms the greenhouse effect, that is, sending back the
>radiant energy from the Earth back to the Earth instead of letting it go to
>outer space. It is this greenhouse effect that is creating climate imbalances.
>
>Replacing jet fuel with hydrides is what German engineers are up to, as
>I found in the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait. Such works need support, as
>opposed to work on reducing carbon emissions on the ground.
>
June 29, 1989 "UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental
official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth
by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by
the year 2000."
Someone like you still believes?
--
Petzl

The entire Parliament was sacked,for treason under Whitlam
Constitutionally Parties are not recognised. So when a Government was
found to be removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards
that of the Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for
the "Arab lobby", Britain and USA would of found that treachery.

Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans
than US banks/financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with
"petro-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974.
Whitlam allowed Saudi Arabs to build a Mosque in Sydney/Lakemba.
Whitlam was a immoral communist working to remove ties to USA and
Britain's orbit moving towards that of the Communist and Third World
powers, with strong support for the "Arab lobby".
https://is.gd/IzhkxL

Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.

Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
­reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
and political prejudices against us.”

Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
from a very different way of life.”

In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
prejudice against Vietnamese ­because he thought they might be
politically hostile to Labor.

On Wednesday, 25 May 2022 at 19:11:09 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:25:37 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
> >> life. Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions and then as a
> >> pathetic politician.
> >
> >They won't let you be an union boss unless you do some work somehow, sometime.
> >At the least, you gotta be a heavy.
> >But Albo does not have that physique. He must have done something.
> >
> Farted "yab" in their direction
> >God knows what it will do to our country in 3
> >> years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.
> >
> >Let us see. Depends upon what he wants. Let him please get the idea that
> >CO2 is a heavy gas so fossil fuels when burnt near the ground sink to the
> >ground, get absorbed by plants, seas and streams, and finally end up as
> >limestone. However when jet fuel is burnt at 12000 m the CO2 formed there
> >takes a long time to come down, especially when the amount keeps on
> >getting replenished and increased when there is no pandemic to shut down
> >flights. That CO2 forms the greenhouse effect, that is, sending back the
> >radiant energy from the Earth back to the Earth instead of letting it go to
> >outer space. It is this greenhouse effect that is creating climate imbalances.
> >
> >Replacing jet fuel with hydrides is what German engineers are up to, as
> >I found in the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait. Such works need support, as
> >opposed to work on reducing carbon emissions on the ground.
> >
> June 29, 1989 "UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental
> official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth
> by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by
> the year 2000."
> Someone like you still believes?

I said climate imbalances, not global warming.
That happens when one area is heated more than average.
Wild swings happen, indicating unstability.
As Antarctica has not warmed because jets do not fly over it, that ice has not melted unlike in the Arctic..
My wife got a heat rash in St. Petersburg!
Climate change is real.
Jets must be banned.
> --
> Petzl
>
> The entire Parliament was sacked,for treason under Whitlam
> Constitutionally Parties are not recognised. So when a Government was
> found to be removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards
> that of the Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for
> the "Arab lobby", Britain and USA would of found that treachery.
>
> Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans
> than US banks/financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with
> "petro-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974.
> Whitlam allowed Saudi Arabs to build a Mosque in Sydney/Lakemba.
> Whitlam was a immoral communist working to remove ties to USA and
> Britain's orbit moving towards that of the Communist and Third World
> powers, with strong support for the "Arab lobby".
> https://is.gd/IzhkxL
>
> Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
> irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
> stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
> Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.
>
> Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
> ­reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
> pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
> f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
> and political prejudices against us.”
> Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
> no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
> people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
> from a very different way of life.”
>
> In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
> prejudice against Vietnamese ­because he thought they might be
> politically hostile to Labor.

On Thu, 26 May 2022 10:12:19 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 25 May 2022 at 19:11:09 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 May 2022 22:25:37 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
>> >> life. Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions and then as a
>> >> pathetic politician.
>> >
>> >They won't let you be an union boss unless you do some work somehow,
>> sometime.
>> >At the least, you gotta be a heavy.
>> >But Albo does not have that physique. He must have done something.
>> >
>> Farted "yab" in their direction
>> >God knows what it will do to our country in 3
>> >> years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.
>> >
>> >Let us see. Depends upon what he wants. Let him please get the idea
>> that
>> >CO2 is a heavy gas so fossil fuels when burnt near the ground sink to
>> the
>> >ground, get absorbed by plants, seas and streams, and finally end up as
>> >limestone. However when jet fuel is burnt at 12000 m the CO2 formed
>> there
>> >takes a long time to come down, especially when the amount keeps on
>> >getting replenished and increased when there is no pandemic to shut
>> down
>> >flights. That CO2 forms the greenhouse effect, that is, sending back
>> the
>> >radiant energy from the Earth back to the Earth instead of letting it
>> go to
>> >outer space. It is this greenhouse effect that is creating climate
>> imbalances.
>> >
>> >Replacing jet fuel with hydrides is what German engineers are up to, as
>> >I found in the SMART2015 conference in Kuwait. Such works need
>> support, as
>> >opposed to work on reducing carbon emissions on the ground.
>> >
>> June 29, 1989 "UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental
>> official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth
>> by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by
>> the year 2000."
>> Someone like you still believes?
>
> I said climate imbalances, not global warming.
> That happens when one area is heated more than average.
> Wild swings happen, indicating unstability.

Instability always happens. In spades with this country.

> As Antarctica has not warmed because jets do not fly over it, that ice
> has not melted unlike in the Arctic..
> My wife got a heat rash in St. Petersburg!
> Climate change is real.

Climate change has always happened. The romans grew
grapes in Britain, then for a long time that wasn't possible.

> Jets must be banned.

Taint gunna happen.

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3.14159254root(3.14159254)=1.439619496
1.439619496root(1.439619496)=1.288022048
....(10)
1.002355567

2355567

7655532-2355567=5299965

5299965/99=53535

5299965/45=117777
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656634/99=6666

53535/6666/pi=2.5563636
25563636/12=2130303
3030312-2130303=900009

Wednesday, 25th May 2022, 18:24 UTC, M1.34

1104
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29/0.36...=79.75
79/0.75
....
284559785
587955482-284559785=303395697
303395697/99=3064603

On Tuesday, 24 May 2022 at 19:12:51 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
> Oliver Closeoff <commo...@nospam.org> wrote
> > That pig Kenneally was done like a dinner,
> Fucked if I would eat any bit of that stupid cow.
> > and Rudd the Dud's former seat was lost to the Greens.
> Yeah, the QLD result was pretty stupid with the Greens.
> > Kevni with his huge oversized ego would find that hard to cop!
>
> > There is some karma!
> Not gunna eat any of that wog food either.
Spoken like a true robot that will end up in some junkyard, Rod3po.

No stupid microparties got anywhere. Presumably voting 1 to 6 above the
line has banjaxed his business model.

On 26/05/2022 7:27 pm, Ozix wrote:
> No stupid microparties got anywhere. Presumably voting 1 to 6 above the
> line has banjaxed his business model.

**Unlikely. I spoke with him a couple of years back and he explained
some of his activities. Particularly in (NSW) state politics. He is
still active AFAIK. We just don't hear of it.

On Thu, 26 May 2022 00:37:06 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, 24 May 2022 at 19:12:51 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Oliver Closeoff <commo...@nospam.org> wrote
>> > That pig Kenneally was done like a dinner,
>> Fucked if I would eat any bit of that stupid cow.
>> > and Rudd the Dud's former seat was lost to the Greens.
>> Yeah, the QLD result was pretty stupid with the Greens.
>> > Kevni with his huge oversized ego would find that hard to cop!
>>
>> > There is some karma!
>> Not gunna eat any of that wog food either.
>
>Spoken like a true robot that will end up in some junkyard, Rod3po.
>
Our democracy is not in good shape when Labor can win office with just
32% of the primary vote. Over two-thirds of the electorate wanted
someone else.
The major parties and their media allies have a lot to answer for.
They have bred cynicism and apathy across the system.
--
Petzl

The entire Parliament was sacked,for treason under Whitlam
Constitutionally Parties are not recognised. So when a Government was
found to be removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards
that of the Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for
the "Arab lobby", Britain and USA would of found that treachery.

Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans
than US banks/financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with
"petro-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974.
Whitlam allowed Saudi Arabs to build a Mosque in Sydney/Lakemba.
Whitlam was a immoral communist working to remove ties to USA and
Britain's orbit moving towards that of the Communist and Third World
powers, with strong support for the "Arab lobby".
https://is.gd/IzhkxL

Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.

Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
­reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
and political prejudices against us.”

Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
from a very different way of life.”

In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
prejudice against Vietnamese ­because he thought they might be
politically hostile to Labor.

On Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 20:16:31 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 26 May 2022 00:37:06 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, 24 May 2022 at 19:12:51 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
> >> Oliver Closeoff <commo...@nospam.org> wrote
> >> > That pig Kenneally was done like a dinner,
> >> Fucked if I would eat any bit of that stupid cow.
> >> > and Rudd the Dud's former seat was lost to the Greens.
> >> Yeah, the QLD result was pretty stupid with the Greens.
> >> > Kevni with his huge oversized ego would find that hard to cop!
> >>
> >> > There is some karma!
> >> Not gunna eat any of that wog food either.
> >
> >Spoken like a true robot that will end up in some junkyard, Rod3po.
> >
> Our democracy is not in good shape when Labor can win office with just
> 32% of the primary vote. Over two-thirds of the electorate wanted
> someone else.
> The major parties and their media allies have a lot to answer for.
> They have bred cynicism and apathy across the system.

As I remember, I had thought a third force in politics would be useful, instead of two faces of the same coin.
That has happened.
Politics should be a lot more interesting. More chance pethaps for a no-hoper like myself to get some attention, for the HTN and other important new ideas.
Good. It now is not all about robots and bigots.
> --
> Petzl
>
> The entire Parliament was sacked,for treason under Whitlam
> Constitutionally Parties are not recognised. So when a Government was
> found to be removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards
> that of the Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for
> the "Arab lobby", Britain and USA would of found that treachery.
>
> Arab financiers offered lower interest rates on governmental loans
> than US banks/financiers. The Middle East at the time was awash with
> "petro-dollars", as the price of oil quadrupled between 1973 and 1974.
> Whitlam allowed Saudi Arabs to build a Mosque in Sydney/Lakemba.
> Whitlam was a immoral communist working to remove ties to USA and
> Britain's orbit moving towards that of the Communist and Third World
> powers, with strong support for the "Arab lobby".
> https://is.gd/IzhkxL
>
> Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
> irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
> stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
> Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.
>
> Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want “another
> ­reactionary right-wing minority”. Foreign minister Don Willesee
> pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: “I’m not having those
> f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
> and political prejudices against us.”
>
> Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
> no sympathy in him. He added: “There will be some resentment about the
> people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
> from a very different way of life.”
>
> In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
> prejudice against Vietnamese ­because he thought they might be
> politically hostile to Labor.

On Mon, 23 May 2022 09:27:09 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 22 May 2022 09:55:38 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 May 2022 09:56:18 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>>>If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what are the
>>>chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>
>>Never complained to me
>>I just draw a cock and balls on ballots (they get the most votes if
>>they were counted)
>
>Yeah well, I'm voting postal in future. I decided to vote at the
>local school just up from work, and as late as possible to avoid the
>riff-raff in the queue.
>When I arrived there was a queue so long it wrapped round the Earth. I
>was wedged behind a woman with halitosis,and this I had to endure for
>a good 30 minutes. It was getting cold and dark. Eventually after
>waiting in the vast school hall for 15min I discovered I was in the
>wrong queue and had to start again in the queue for those people
>living outside the "****" whatever that was. I was one of the last to
>leave after one whole hour!!! I was dark when I left and the school
>grounds were unlit necessitating a grope towards the gate, which was
>now locked, over which I had to scramble!
>
>When I woke the next morning I heard the wrong side had won.
>
>Stuff it! BAH...!
>
Informal got up to 20% of the vote
Labor won office with just 32% of the primary vote. Over two-thirds of
the electorate wanted someone else.
<https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/24/high-number-of-invalid-votes-in-culturally-diverse-seats-prompts-concerns-after-federal-election>
https://tinyurl.com/2lc85fo9
--
Petzl
If voting made any difference,
They wouldn't let us do it- Mark Twain

On Thu, 26 May 2022 22:38:05 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 May 2022 09:27:09 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 May 2022 09:55:38 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 21 May 2022 09:56:18 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you vote informally, ie. you don't fill in enough boxes, what are
>>>> the
>>>> chances you get in trouble for this?
>>>>
>>> Never complained to me
>>> I just draw a cock and balls on ballots (they get the most votes if
>>> they were counted)
>>
>> Yeah well, I'm voting postal in future. I decided to vote at the
>> local school just up from work, and as late as possible to avoid the
>> riff-raff in the queue.
>> When I arrived there was a queue so long it wrapped round the Earth. I
>> was wedged behind a woman with halitosis,and this I had to endure for
>> a good 30 minutes. It was getting cold and dark. Eventually after
>> waiting in the vast school hall for 15min I discovered I was in the
>> wrong queue and had to start again in the queue for those people
>> living outside the "****" whatever that was. I was one of the last to
>> leave after one whole hour!!! I was dark when I left and the school
>> grounds were unlit necessitating a grope towards the gate, which was
>> now locked, over which I had to scramble!
>>
>> When I woke the next morning I heard the wrong side had won.
>>
>> Stuff it! BAH...!

> Informal got up to 20% of the vote

We don't know that yet.

> Labor won office with just 32% of the primary vote.Over two-thirds of
> the electorate wanted someone else.

But we have a preferential voting system, stupid.

> <https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/24/high-number-of-invalid-votes-in-culturally-diverse-seats-prompts-concerns-after-federal-election>
> https://tinyurl.com/2lc85fo9

Just because some fuckwit journo in some shit rag claims something...

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Ozix wrote

>> No stupid microparties got anywhere. Presumably voting1 to 6 above the
>> line has banjaxed his business model.

> Unlikely. I spoke with him a couple of years back and he explained some
> of his activities. Particularly in (NSW) state politics. He is still
> active AFAIK. We just don't hear of it.

But we do know that there is no evidence of him being effective in this
election.

On Thu, 26 May 2022 20:57:49 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 20:16:31 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 00:37:06 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, 24 May 2022 at 19:12:51 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
>> >> Oliver Closeoff <commo...@nospam.org> wrote
>> >> > That pig Kenneally was done like a dinner,
>> >> Fucked if I would eat any bit of that stupid cow.
>> >> > and Rudd the Dud's former seat was lost to the Greens.
>> >> Yeah, the QLD result was pretty stupid with the Greens.
>> >> > Kevni with his huge oversized ego would find that hard to cop!
>> >>
>> >> > There is some karma!
>> >> Not gunna eat any of that wog food either.
>> >
>> >Spoken like a true robot that will end up in some junkyard, Rod3po.
>> >
>> Our democracy is not in good shape when Labor can win office with just
>> 32% of the primary vote. Over two-thirds of the electorate wanted
>> someone else.
>> The major parties and their media allies have a lot to answer for.
>> They have bred cynicism and apathy across the system.
>
> As I remember, I had thought a third force in politics would be useful,
> instead of two faces of the same coin.
> That has happened.

Nope, we will still get a Labor majority govt.

> Politics should be a lot more interesting.

Not going to happen with a Labor majority govt which means
that all the 'independants' and micropartys can just be ignored.

> More chance pethaps for a no-hoper like myself to get some attention,
> for the HTN and other important new ideas.

Nope, you watch.

On 27/05/2022 5:10 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>> Ozix wrote
>
>>> No stupid microparties got anywhere. Presumably voting1 to 6 above
>>> the line has banjaxed his business model.
>
>> Unlikely. I spoke with him a couple of years back and he explained
>> some of his activities. Particularly in (NSW) state politics. He is
>> still active AFAIK. We just don't hear of it.
>
> But we do know that there is no evidence of him being effective in this
> election.

**When we spoke, he outlined his activities (at the time) and they
involved a lot more to do with getting disparate parties together so
they could force legislation through that the (NSW) government was
resistant to. I know of a few instances where he was able to get the
Greens and the Shooters to work together.

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Ozix wrote

>>>> No stupid microparties got anywhere. Presumably voting'
>>>> 1 to 6 above the line has banjaxed his business model.

>>> Unlikely. I spoke with him a couple of years back and he explained
>>> some of his activities. Particularly in (NSW) state politics. He is
>>> still active AFAIK. We just don't hear of it.

>> But we do know that there is no evidence of him being effective in
>> this election.

> When we spoke, he outlined his activities (at the time) and they
> involved a lot more to do with getting disparate parties together so
> they could force legislation through that the (NSW) government was
> resistant to.

Irrelevant to any effect he might have had in this FEDERAL election.

In this FEDERAL ELECTION there is no evidence that the
preferences of the micro partys and 'independents' had
any significant effect on who won a particular seat.

> I know of a few instances where he was able to getthe Greens and the
> Shooters to work together.

No evidence of that in this FEDERAL election in the
sense of changing the outcome in a particular seat.

Even with the unusual result with the seats the Greens
won in other than Brandt's seat, no evidence that that
was due to any preference whispering.

On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:08:06 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>
>>> When I woke the next morning I heard the wrong side had won.
>>>
>>> Stuff it! BAH...!
>
>> Informal got up to 20% of the vote
>
>We don't know that yet.
>
>> Labor won office with just 32% of the primary vote.Over two-thirds of
>> the electorate wanted someone else.
>
>But we have a preferential voting system, stupid.
>
Not really the voting is rigged manipulated to support the unwanted
Labor/Greens/Coalition.
People should be allowed to just select those candidates they want.
By having to number Labor/Greens/Coalition means that if you vote for
a independent or small party these votes ultimately to
Labor/Greens/Coalition. Greens would have zero seats if it wasn't for
so called preference voting
Those that drew "cock and balls" on ballot had more votes than
"Greens"
All this so called preference voting does is give Australia a hung
parliament.
That's why every unemployable loon stands for a senate vote.

Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire and never worked a day in its
life. Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions and then as a
pathetic politician. God knows what it will do to our country in 3
years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.
Anthony Albanese is estimated to have a net worth of $10 million as of
2022.
No doubt we are going to end up with a depression the likes of which
you've never seen. Be lucky If you end up with a country at all.

>> <https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/24/high-number-of-invalid-votes-in-culturally-diverse-seats-prompts-concerns-after-federal-election>
>> https://tinyurl.com/2lc85fo9
>
>Just because some fuckwit journo in some shit rag claims something...
--
Petzl
If voting made any difference,
They wouldn't let us do it- Mark Twain

On Fri, 27 May 2022 06:18:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>> Ozix wrote
>
>>>>> No stupid microparties got anywhere. Presumably voting'
>>>>> 1 to 6 above the line has banjaxed his business model.
>
>>>> Unlikely. I spoke with him a couple of years back and he explained
>>>> some of his activities. Particularly in (NSW) state politics. He is
>>>> still active AFAIK. We just don't hear of it.
>
>>> But we do know that there is no evidence of him being effective in
>>> this election.
>
>> When we spoke, he outlined his activities (at the time) and they
>> involved a lot more to do with getting disparate parties together so
>> they could force legislation through that the (NSW) government was
>> resistant to.
>
>Irrelevant to any effect he might have had in this FEDERAL election.
>
>In this FEDERAL ELECTION there is no evidence that the
>preferences of the micro partys and 'independents' had
>any significant effect on who won a particular seat.
>
>> I know of a few instances where he was able to getthe Greens and the
>> Shooters to work together.
>
>No evidence of that in this FEDERAL election in the
>sense of changing the outcome in a particular seat.
>
>Even with the unusual result with the seats the Greens
>won in other than Brandt's seat, no evidence that that
>was due to any preference whispering.
>
Teals play the electoral system for a sucker
How is it serving democracy when a candidate polls 46 per cent of the
vote but is beaten by an independent on 25 per cent, supported by
Labor and Greens candidates playing dead?
--
Petzl
A perfect picture of all that's wrong with lefties -
I'm miserable & someone else is to blame.

If the Left so strongly supports 'diversity'
why do they spend so much time trying to close down
opinions different to their own?

'Diversity' is the new Orwellian doublespeak,
a Leftist propaganda tool to disguise the fact
they are trying to create a more uniform,
homogenous society, in their own image.

Australia will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we were destroyed from the rot within

On Fri, 27 May 2022 06:38:50 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 May 2022 05:08:06 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> When I woke the next morning I heard the wrong side had won.
>>>>
>>>> Stuff it! BAH...!
>>
>>> Informal got up to 20% of the vote
>>
>> We don't know that yet.
>>
>>> Labor won office with just 32% of the primary vote.Over two-thirds of
>>> the electorate wanted someone else.
>>
>> But we have a preferential voting system, stupid.

> Not really

Yes, really.

> the voting is rigged manipulated to support the unwanted
> Labor/Greens/Coalition.

No rigging/manipulation, a preferential voting system
will always encourage more than just the two majors
and even you should have noticed the the Greens did
very well in this election.

> People should be allowed to just select those candidates they want.

They are allowed to do that, and to express their preference
for who they would like to have if those they primary vote for
don't get enough numbers to get elected.

> By having to number Labor/Greens/Coalition

You don't have to do that, you are free to vote above the line.

> means that if you vote for
> a independent or small party these votes ultimately to
> Labor/Greens/Coalition.

Only Labor and the Coalition because the
Greens hardly ever get a seat in the HoR.

> Greens would have zero seats if it wasn't for
> so called preference voting

Nothing so called about it and even with the British
system, they still ended up with just one Green, just
like we did up till this very unusual election result.

> Those that drew "cock and balls" onballot had more votes than "Greens"

That isn't clear yet.

> All this so called preference voting doesis give Australia a hung
> parliament.

It is looking like it may well be a majority Labor govt.

> That's why every unemployable loon stands for a senate vote.

That is due to a different effect, the party decides the order
on the list and that is always the unemployable. But almost
all of all the Labor candidates have never had a real job anyway.

> Anthony Albanese is a multi millionaire

Nope.

> and never worked a day in its life.

Nope, he worked for the ComBank for a couple of years.

> Sponged off the taxpayers firstly with the unions

Nope, never was a union goon.

> and then as a pathetic politician.

The voters clearly feel otherwise.

> God knows what it will do to our country in 3
> years with the rest of the dead wood in his party.

We survived the dud, whitless and Julia,
we will survive Albo too, you watch.

> Anthony Albanese is estimated to havea net worth of $10 million as of
> 2022.

Only by the same pig ignorant fools who are too stupid
to even notice that he has worked in a real job and never
was a union goon.

> No doubt we are going to end up with a depressionthe likes of which
> you've never seen.

How odd that we didn't with the dud, even tho much of
the world economy imploded just after he became PM.

> Be lucky If you end up with a country at all.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something...

>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/24/high-number-of-invalid-votes-in-culturally-diverse-seats-prompts-concerns-after-federal-election>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/2lc85fo9
>>
>> Just because some fuckwit journo in some shit rag claims something...

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>> Ozix wrote

>>>>>> No stupid microparties got anywhere. Presumably voting'
>>>>>> 1 to 6 above the line has banjaxed his business model.

>>>>> Unlikely. I spoke with him a couple of years back and he explained
>>>>> some of his activities. Particularly in (NSW) state politics. He is
>>>>> still active AFAIK. We just don't hear of it.

>>>> But we do know that there is no evidence of him being effective in
>>>> this election.

>>> When we spoke, he outlined his activities (at the time) and they
>>> involved a lot more to do with getting disparate parties together so
>>> they could force legislation through that the (NSW) government was
>>> resistant to.

>> Irrelevant to any effect he might have had in this FEDERAL election.

>> In this FEDERAL ELECTION there is no evidence that the
>> preferences of the micro partys and 'independents' had
>> any significant effect on who won a particular seat.

>>> I know of a few instances where he was able to getthe Greens and the
>>> Shooters to work together.

>> No evidence of that in this FEDERAL election in the
>> sense of changing the outcome in a particular seat.

>> Even with the unusual result with the seats the Greens
>> won in other than Brandt's seat, no evidence that that
>> was due to any preference whispering.

> Teals play the electoral system for a sucker

That remains to be seen. If Labor ends up with a majority
govt, they will be completely irrelevant given that they
have mostly been returned in what used to be Liberal
seats and Albo won't have to give a damn what they want.

Even without a majority, Labor will certainly get Dai Le's
vote on most issues given she used to be Labor.

> How is it serving democracy when a candidate polls 46 percent of the
> vote but is beaten by an independent on 25 per cent,

That isn't what happened in most teal seats.

> supported by Labor and Greens candidates playing dead?

That isn't what happened in most teal seats either.

And those teal candidates will be irrelevant anyway.

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