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+* The Queens Coup - Jenny HockingRod Speed
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  |`* Here we go again...Petzl
  | `* Here we go again...Rod Speed
  |  `* Here we go again...Petzl
  |   +* Here we go again...WhataWonderfulWorld
  |   |`- Here we go again...Petzl
  |   +* Here we go again...Rod Speed
  |   |`* Here we go again...Petzl
  |   | `- Here we go again...Rod Speed
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Re: Sea Ice and Heat: A Vicious Cycle

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Subject: Re: Sea Ice and Heat: A Vicious Cycle
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 by: KKKernal Corn - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 21:47 UTC

On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 21:27:37 -0000 (UTC), Lars <lars@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Melting sea ice has only a minor impact on sea level rise because the ice
>is already in the ocean, but it does cause major changes to the planet.
>When sea ice melts, more sunlight is absorbed by the Earth, which causes
>more warming.
>
>It’s a vicious cycle. And here’s how it works:
>
>When solar radiation hits snow and ice, approximately 90% of it is
>reflected back out to space. As global warming causes more snow and ice to
>melt each summer, the ocean underneath the ice is exposed. The dark color
>of ocean absorbs more incoming solar radiation, reflecting less back out
>to space. In this way, melting ice causes more warming and so more ice
>melts. This is known as a feedback. According to a recent scientific study
>that used computer models to predict the future of Arctic sea ice, there
>may be no more sea ice left in the Arctic Ocean during summer within the
>next few decades
>
>You can make a simple model that shows how the color of ice and water
>impacts temperature.
>
>What you need:
>
>2 thermometers
>A photo of what sea ice and ocean look like from a satellite (like this
>one from the NASA Earth Observatory)
>Tape
>Watch or stopwatch
>A lamp with a 75-100 watt incandescent bulb (or sunshine)
>
>What you do:
>
>Fix thermometers to the back of the picture using tape. One thermometer
>bulb should be under ice and the other under ocean. Place the thermometers
>so that when you lay the picture down on a table, they are right side up
>and can be read.
>Place the light about a foot above the picture. Don’t turn it on yet!
>Read the thermometers before the light is turned on.
>Turn on their light and record the start time.
>Read the temperature of both thermometers every two minutes. Which warms
>faster: the thermometer under white ice or the one under dark ocean?
>Check out more icy science:
>
>Types of Ice
>Climate and Ice
>Melting Arctic Sea Ice and Ocean Circulation
>Compare Arctic Sea Ice Extent
>A classroom version of the activity above: Looking into Surface Albedo
>
>https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/sea-ice-and-
>heat-vicious-cycle

Yebbut how do you explain the next Ice Age?

Re: Here we go again...

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 by: petzl - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 21:48 UTC

On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 7:51:21 PM UTC+11, Daniel65 wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote on 1/1/23 9:37 am:
> > On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 08:40:07 +1100, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <Snip>
> >> Happy New Year Rod.
> >
> > Same to you.
> >
> >> Cut down on the media chook food you swallow.
> >
> > Cut down on the stupid conspiracy theorys you gorge on.
> I wouldn't mind so much IF IT WERE *OUR* MEDIA AND/OR GOVERNMENT but why
> does Petzl have to recite all this Yank crap in aus.politics (emphasis
> on the *aus* )
>
> Maybe Petzl could have made that his New Years resolution!
>
> Happy New Year everyone!!
>
Happy New Year from me also!
Australian "news" is dictated by the USA, "our" media conforms.
This started after the CIA had John F Kennedy murdered!
"Our" press don't/won't report about the CIA of Thousands of unedited government
JFK assassination files released?
But happily feed us chooks with anti-Trump rubbish
Still a lot redacted (can't be read)!
"Our" media just treat their readers as "feeding the chooks"
Easy to fool people, but it is almost impossible to convince people that they have been fooled.
Right now "Climate Change" is a way to increase taxes.
"I pay whatever tax I am required to pay under the law, not a penny more, not a penny less...
if anybody in this country doesn't minimize their tax they want their heads read because
as a government I can tell you you're not spending it that well that we should be donating extra..."
Kerry Packer
https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird
Twitter the CIA murdered my uncle!
<https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1604139690629730304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1604139690629730304%7Ctwgr%5E6acf623e8e84c092ddb43b8f1ae4190aa05457d4%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fheadlineusa.com%2Frfk-jr-praises-tucker-carlson-for-covering-cias-role-in-jfk-assassination%2F&fbclid=IwAR2M0NKh9q70e3zpnikM9v8OQY6Z4USEGS718IBm-NbovwsmSsUZ-KKUwDc>
https://tinyurl.com/2lxw8llf
@RobertKennedyJr
The most courageous newscast in 60 years.
The CIA’s murder of my uncle was a successful coup d'état from which our democracy has never recovered.
https://youtu.be/PAiRmhXvJHs
--
Petzl
"What is the cost of lies? It’s not that we’ll mistake them for the truth.
The real danger is that if we hear enough lies,
then we no longer recognize the truth at all."

Re: The liar tweets tonight

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 by: Ördög - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 22:09 UTC

Petz

> Fran
>> A bit late but I've only just seen this and I'm sure some will
>> appreciate it:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkU1ob_lHCw
>>
> More Fran
>
Yes, more of her sane posts...I can see why that bothers you sooooooo
much, Petz dear!
>
> deserve to be lied to
>
Nobody deserves to be lied to, yet you do nothing else but...
That reminds me... how is your little tank? I hope it is not getting
rustier that it already is after all that wet in 2022!
>
> The 1967 Central Intelligence Agency Scandal
>
You must be looking at an 'ancient' calendar...the current year is 2022,
not 1967...
You are completely temporal-disoriented.

To help you find your footing in the third decade of the 21st Century
here is somethin' you can chew on...I know it is a bitter pill for your
Petz dear, but proper (sanity) medications don't have to taste always sweet:

*Trump Reacts To The Release Of His Taxes*
/The Young Turks, 5.3M subscribers, 180,794 views 31 Dec 2022/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0yFsLffCA>

"Trump cries over "radical Democrats" releasing his taxes.

Read more HERE:
<https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trump-claims-tax-returns-being-released-will-lead-to-horrible-things-but-also-show-how-proudly-successful-he-is/>

"Former President Donald Trump responded to his tax returns being
released on Friday, claiming Democrats “weaponized” his finances, but
also exclaiming that they show how giving and successful he is.

Trump did not take to Truth Social as he typically does to rant and
rave, but rather released a traditional statement through spokesperson
Liz Harrington. He claimed the release of his tax returns will lead to
“horrible things” for people, though he did not specify what these
horrible things are. He also claimed the country will “grow far worse”
in the wake of the tax returns release."*
~~~ ~~~

I must conclude that your only real comrade in life must be no other
person than that orange menace himself as he indulges in that very same
extreme high degree of self-delusional mental devolution as you do.
Hence your never ending adoration for him, his regime and his political
grifter accolades.

:-P :-P :-P

/NOTE:
All of Petz's completely idiotic and mostly plagiarised alt-right
propaganda sigs are consigned to cyber nirvana w/o reading/

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

Re: Here we go again...

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 22:18 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 07:34:07 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 15:22:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> <https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird>
>>> Operation Mockingbird was a CIA project that recruited journalists to
>>> write fake stories promoting government ideas while dispelling
>>> communist ones
>>
>> They never recruited any of the journos that work for the media I use.

<reams of your lies flushed where they belong>

> (including wikipedia info about Biden)

Wikipedia got Biden's pre politics work
right and it is trivial to check that.

> People who read the tabloids

Like you.

> deserve to be lied to.

And you are with that shit rag you read.

> <https://academic.oup.com/jah/article-abstract/98/4/1075/922221?redirectedFrom=fulltext>
> https://tinyurl.com/2fsfa783
> The 1967 Central Intelligence Agency Scandal: Catalyst in a
> Transforming Relationship between State and People

Just because some fool claims something...

>> I'm not stupid enough to use any yankee media.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 22:20 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 07:46:28 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 18:58:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> <https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird>
>>>>> Operation Mockingbird was a CIA project that recruited journalists to
>>>>> write fake stories promoting government ideas while dispelling
>>>>> communist ones
>>
>>>> They never recruited any of the journos that work for the media I use.
>>
>>>> I'm not stupid enough to use any yankee media.
>>
>>> Your recounts to me say you do!
>>
>> Nope, I use our ABC Just In and the BBC RSS.

> Just leftie crap

Nope, plenty of facts.

> have they mentioned the Elon Musk Twitter files at
> all?

They don't bother with conspiracy theory shit.

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 by: Petzl - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 22:36 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:20:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 07:46:28 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 18:58:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>> <https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird>
>>>>>> Operation Mockingbird was a CIA project that recruited journalists to
>>>>>> write fake stories promoting government ideas while dispelling
>>>>>> communist ones
>>>
>>>>> They never recruited any of the journos that work for the media I use.
>>>
>>>>> I'm not stupid enough to use any yankee media.
>>>
>>>> Your recounts to me say you do!
>>>
>>> Nope, I use our ABC Just In and the BBC RSS.
>
>> Just leftie crap
>
>Nope, plenty of facts.
>
Chook food Rod

>> have they mentioned the Elon Musk Twitter files at
>> all?
>
>They don't bother with conspiracy theory shit.
>
Elon Musk is a registered Democrat who know owns twitter.
Keep eating your media chook food Rod
--
Petzl
"What is the cost of lies? It’s not that we’ll mistake them for the truth.
The real danger is that if we hear enough lies,
then we no longer recognize the truth at all."

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 by: Petzl - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 22:47 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:18:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 07:34:07 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 15:22:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> <https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird>
>>>> Operation Mockingbird was a CIA project that recruited journalists to
>>>> write fake stories promoting government ideas while dispelling
>>>> communist ones
>>>
>>> They never recruited any of the journos that work for the media I use.
>
><reams of your lies flushed where they belong>
>
>> (including wikipedia info about Biden)
>
>Wikipedia got Biden's pre politics work
>right and it is trivial to check that.
>
Different to the truth he never had his own law firm he tried to work
for one but got arseholed out.
He did have a casual job as emergency standby in a Law University
Doubt full he actually passed any law degree. He used sickness to
overturn a fail (caught plagiarizing answers)
"Biden admitted to plagiarizing while in law school as well as lifting
from writings by British politician Neil Kinnock while on the campaign
trail -- and it became an issue that haunted his failed 1988
presidential bid."

>> People who read the tabloids
>
>Like you.
>
>> deserve to be lied to.
>
>And you are with that shit rag you read.
>
>> <https://academic.oup.com/jah/article-abstract/98/4/1075/922221?redirectedFrom=fulltext>
>> https://tinyurl.com/2fsfa783
>> The 1967 Central Intelligence Agency Scandal: Catalyst in a
>> Transforming Relationship between State and People
>
>Just because some fool claims something...
>
>>> I'm not stupid enough to use any yankee media.
--
Petzl
"What is the cost of lies? It’s not that we’ll mistake them for the truth.
The real danger is that if we hear enough lies,
then we no longer recognize the truth at all."

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 by: Ördög - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 22:51 UTC

*This Is Why Right-wing Christianity Is An Atheism Factory*
/The Young Turks, 5.3M subscribers, 80,691 views 2 Jan 2023/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmeepecbSOo>

"Crazy right-wing pastor shares his INSANE conspiracy theories."
***
~~~ ~~~

These are all pretend Xtians...that is their perfect description.
Wouldn't you agree, Petz dear? :-P

This crap is fully like slowly and helplessly drowning in a cesspit
....so atheism is synonymous to coming up for some life saving fresh air
and reaching for healthier social/mental state.

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 by: Petzl - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 22:51 UTC

On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 21:47:41 +0000, KKKernal Corn <vet@invalid.com>
wrote:

>>https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/sea-ice-and-
>>heat-vicious-cycle
>
>Yebbut how do you explain the next Ice Age?
>
The Earth seems to have a defense?
There are two polar vortex's which one has split into two forcing wild
weather and cooling the Earth
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply conicidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 23:40 UTC

On 2/01/2023 8:47 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 21:27:37 -0000 (UTC), Lars <lars@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Melting sea ice has only a minor impact on sea level rise because the ice
>> is already in the ocean, but it does cause major changes to the planet.
>> When sea ice melts, more sunlight is absorbed by the Earth, which causes
>> more warming.
>>
>> It’s a vicious cycle. And here’s how it works:
>>
>> When solar radiation hits snow and ice, approximately 90% of it is
>> reflected back out to space. As global warming causes more snow and ice to
>> melt each summer, the ocean underneath the ice is exposed. The dark color
>> of ocean absorbs more incoming solar radiation, reflecting less back out
>> to space. In this way, melting ice causes more warming and so more ice
>> melts. This is known as a feedback. According to a recent scientific study
>> that used computer models to predict the future of Arctic sea ice, there
>> may be no more sea ice left in the Arctic Ocean during summer within the
>> next few decades
>>
>> You can make a simple model that shows how the color of ice and water
>> impacts temperature.
>>
>> What you need:
>>
>> 2 thermometers
>> A photo of what sea ice and ocean look like from a satellite (like this
>> one from the NASA Earth Observatory)
>> Tape
>> Watch or stopwatch
>> A lamp with a 75-100 watt incandescent bulb (or sunshine)
>>
>> What you do:
>>
>> Fix thermometers to the back of the picture using tape. One thermometer
>> bulb should be under ice and the other under ocean. Place the thermometers
>> so that when you lay the picture down on a table, they are right side up
>> and can be read.
>> Place the light about a foot above the picture. Don’t turn it on yet!
>> Read the thermometers before the light is turned on.
>> Turn on their light and record the start time.
>> Read the temperature of both thermometers every two minutes. Which warms
>> faster: the thermometer under white ice or the one under dark ocean?
>> Check out more icy science:
>>
>> Types of Ice
>> Climate and Ice
>> Melting Arctic Sea Ice and Ocean Circulation
>> Compare Arctic Sea Ice Extent
>> A classroom version of the activity above: Looking into Surface Albedo
>>
>> https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/sea-ice-and-
>> heat-vicious-cycle
>
> Yebbut how do you explain the next Ice Age?

**An ice age is ALWAYS preceded by falling temperatures.

The average temperature of the planet is RISING.

Therefore, we cannot expect to see an ice age anytime soon.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 23:41 UTC

On 2/01/2023 9:51 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 21:47:41 +0000, KKKernal Corn <vet@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/sea-ice-and-
>>> heat-vicious-cycle
>>
>> Yebbut how do you explain the next Ice Age?
>>
> The Earth seems to have a defense?
> There are two polar vortex's which one has split into two forcing wild
> weather and cooling the Earth

**Except it's not. The polar vortex affects a small part of the planet.
The rest of the planet is warming.

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 by: Fran - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 23:53 UTC

On 2/01/2023 8:37 am, Ördög wrote:
> Fran wrote:
>> A bit late but I've only just seen this and I'm sure some will
>> appreciate it:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkU1ob_lHCw
>
> :-)   Good one, Fran!
>
> I also have zinger:

Yep! Zinger is a perfect description :-)))
>
> *Lock Him Up Yesterday!*
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdSZRkeQfnk>

Very, very good.
>
> Petz just going to love it!

Nah. He'd need a functioning brain to be able to understand it.
>
> ;-)
>

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 by: Fran - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 23:57 UTC

On 2/01/2023 9:51 am, Ördög wrote:
> *This Is Why Right-wing Christianity Is An Atheism Factory*
> /The Young Turks, 5.3M subscribers, 80,691 views  2 Jan 2023/
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmeepecbSOo>
>
> "Crazy right-wing pastor shares his INSANE conspiracy theories."
> ***
> ~~~    ~~~
>
> These are all pretend Xtians...that is their perfect description.
> Wouldn't you agree, Petz dear?  :-P
>
> This crap is fully like slowly and helplessly drowning in a cesspit
> ...so atheism is synonymous to coming up for some life saving fresh air
> and reaching for healthier social/mental state.

I keep wondering why, of all the modern western countries, the USA keeps
producing such a huge number of these wack jobs.

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 by: KKKernal Corn - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 00:19 UTC

On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 10:40:35 +1100, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 2/01/2023 8:47 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 21:27:37 -0000 (UTC), Lars <lars@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Melting sea ice has only a minor impact on sea level rise because the ice
>>> is already in the ocean, but it does cause major changes to the planet.
>>> When sea ice melts, more sunlight is absorbed by the Earth, which causes
>>> more warming.
>>>
>>> It’s a vicious cycle. And here’s how it works:
>>>
>>> When solar radiation hits snow and ice, approximately 90% of it is
>>> reflected back out to space. As global warming causes more snow and ice to
>>> melt each summer, the ocean underneath the ice is exposed. The dark color
>>> of ocean absorbs more incoming solar radiation, reflecting less back out
>>> to space. In this way, melting ice causes more warming and so more ice
>>> melts. This is known as a feedback. According to a recent scientific study
>>> that used computer models to predict the future of Arctic sea ice, there
>>> may be no more sea ice left in the Arctic Ocean during summer within the
>>> next few decades
>>>
>>> You can make a simple model that shows how the color of ice and water
>>> impacts temperature.
>>>
>>> What you need:
>>>
>>> 2 thermometers
>>> A photo of what sea ice and ocean look like from a satellite (like this
>>> one from the NASA Earth Observatory)
>>> Tape
>>> Watch or stopwatch
>>> A lamp with a 75-100 watt incandescent bulb (or sunshine)
>>>
>>> What you do:
>>>
>>> Fix thermometers to the back of the picture using tape. One thermometer
>>> bulb should be under ice and the other under ocean. Place the thermometers
>>> so that when you lay the picture down on a table, they are right side up
>>> and can be read.
>>> Place the light about a foot above the picture. Don’t turn it on yet!
>>> Read the thermometers before the light is turned on.
>>> Turn on their light and record the start time.
>>> Read the temperature of both thermometers every two minutes. Which warms
>>> faster: the thermometer under white ice or the one under dark ocean?
>>> Check out more icy science:
>>>
>>> Types of Ice
>>> Climate and Ice
>>> Melting Arctic Sea Ice and Ocean Circulation
>>> Compare Arctic Sea Ice Extent
>>> A classroom version of the activity above: Looking into Surface Albedo
>>>
>>> https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/sea-ice-and-
>>> heat-vicious-cycle
>>
>> Yebbut how do you explain the next Ice Age?
>
>**An ice age is ALWAYS preceded by falling temperatures.
>
>The average temperature of the planet is RISING.
>
>Therefore, we cannot expect to see an ice age anytime soon.

But there will eventually BE one.

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 by: Petzl - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 00:25 UTC

On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 10:41:26 +1100, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 2/01/2023 9:51 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 21:47:41 +0000, KKKernal Corn <vet@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/sea-ice-and-
>>>> heat-vicious-cycle
>>>
>>> Yebbut how do you explain the next Ice Age?
>>>
>> The Earth seems to have a defense?
>> There are two polar vortex's which one has split into two forcing wild
>> weather and cooling the Earth
>
>**Except it's not. The polar vortex affects a small part of the planet.
>The rest of the planet is warming.
>
What do you call a " a small part of the planet"?
<https://www.wireservice.ca/storm-elliot-over-the-us-and-canada-what-is-the-polar-vortex-and-what-is-happening-with-climate-change/>
https://tinyurl.com/2pge4mv6
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply conicidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 00:40 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:36:19 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:20:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 07:46:28 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 18:58:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird>
>>>>>>> Operation Mockingbird was a CIA project that recruited journalists
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> write fake stories promoting government ideas while dispelling
>>>>>>> communist ones
>>>>
>>>>>> They never recruited any of the journos that work for the media I
>>>>>> use.
>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not stupid enough to use any yankee media.
>>>>
>>>>> Your recounts to me say you do!
>>>>
>>>> Nope, I use our ABC Just In and the BBC RSS.
>>
>>> Just leftie crap
>>
>> Nope, plenty of facts.

> Chook food Rod

Just because some fool claims something...

>>> have they mentioned the Elon Musk Twitter files at
>>> all?
>>
>> They don't bother with conspiracy theory shit.

> Elon Musk is a registered Democrat who know owns twitter.

Both of them did cover the last but weren't actually stupid
enough to bother with mentioning the first irrelevant bit

> Keep eating your media chook food Rod

Keep lapping up every conspiracy theory going.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 00:44 UTC

On 2/01/2023 11:19 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 10:40:35 +1100, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 2/01/2023 8:47 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 21:27:37 -0000 (UTC), Lars <lars@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Melting sea ice has only a minor impact on sea level rise because the ice
>>>> is already in the ocean, but it does cause major changes to the planet.
>>>> When sea ice melts, more sunlight is absorbed by the Earth, which causes
>>>> more warming.
>>>>
>>>> It’s a vicious cycle. And here’s how it works:
>>>>
>>>> When solar radiation hits snow and ice, approximately 90% of it is
>>>> reflected back out to space. As global warming causes more snow and ice to
>>>> melt each summer, the ocean underneath the ice is exposed. The dark color
>>>> of ocean absorbs more incoming solar radiation, reflecting less back out
>>>> to space. In this way, melting ice causes more warming and so more ice
>>>> melts. This is known as a feedback. According to a recent scientific study
>>>> that used computer models to predict the future of Arctic sea ice, there
>>>> may be no more sea ice left in the Arctic Ocean during summer within the
>>>> next few decades
>>>>
>>>> You can make a simple model that shows how the color of ice and water
>>>> impacts temperature.
>>>>
>>>> What you need:
>>>>
>>>> 2 thermometers
>>>> A photo of what sea ice and ocean look like from a satellite (like this
>>>> one from the NASA Earth Observatory)
>>>> Tape
>>>> Watch or stopwatch
>>>> A lamp with a 75-100 watt incandescent bulb (or sunshine)
>>>>
>>>> What you do:
>>>>
>>>> Fix thermometers to the back of the picture using tape. One thermometer
>>>> bulb should be under ice and the other under ocean. Place the thermometers
>>>> so that when you lay the picture down on a table, they are right side up
>>>> and can be read.
>>>> Place the light about a foot above the picture. Don’t turn it on yet!
>>>> Read the thermometers before the light is turned on.
>>>> Turn on their light and record the start time.
>>>> Read the temperature of both thermometers every two minutes. Which warms
>>>> faster: the thermometer under white ice or the one under dark ocean?
>>>> Check out more icy science:
>>>>
>>>> Types of Ice
>>>> Climate and Ice
>>>> Melting Arctic Sea Ice and Ocean Circulation
>>>> Compare Arctic Sea Ice Extent
>>>> A classroom version of the activity above: Looking into Surface Albedo
>>>>
>>>> https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/sea-ice-and-
>>>> heat-vicious-cycle
>>>
>>> Yebbut how do you explain the next Ice Age?
>>
>> **An ice age is ALWAYS preceded by falling temperatures.
>>
>> The average temperature of the planet is RISING.
>>
>> Therefore, we cannot expect to see an ice age anytime soon.
>
> But there will eventually BE one.

**There MIGHT be an ice age. Or not. All present evidence suggests that
there is no ice age in our future. Again: An ice age is ALWAYS preceded
by falling temperatures. We are experiencing RISING temperatures. Zero
chance of an ice age.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 00:46 UTC

On 2/01/2023 11:25 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 10:41:26 +1100, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 2/01/2023 9:51 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 21:47:41 +0000, KKKernal Corn <vet@invalid.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/sea-ice-and-
>>>>> heat-vicious-cycle
>>>>
>>>> Yebbut how do you explain the next Ice Age?
>>>>
>>> The Earth seems to have a defense?
>>> There are two polar vortex's which one has split into two forcing wild
>>> weather and cooling the Earth
>>
>> **Except it's not. The polar vortex affects a small part of the planet.
>> The rest of the planet is warming.
>>
> What do you call a " a small part of the planet"?
> <https://www.wireservice.ca/storm-elliot-over-the-us-and-canada-what-is-the-polar-vortex-and-what-is-happening-with-climate-change/>
> https://tinyurl.com/2pge4mv6

**North America. A piddling 7% of the planet's surface. When the polar
vortex affects 50% of the planet's surface, get back to us. In any case,
the polar vortex is not a permanent thing. It is seasonal. The average
temperature of the planet is still rising, despite a cold snap in North
America.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 00:48 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:47:34 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:18:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 07:34:07 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 15:22:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> <https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird>
>>>>> Operation Mockingbird was a CIA project that recruited journalists to
>>>>> write fake stories promoting government ideas while dispelling
>>>>> communist ones
>>>>
>>>> They never recruited any of the journos that work for the media I use.
>>
>> <reams of your lies flushed where they belong>
>>
>>> (including wikipedia info about Biden)
>>
>> Wikipedia got Biden's pre politics work
>> right and it is trivial to check that.

> Different to the truth he never had his own law firm

Wrong, as always. He did with another fella.

> he tried to work
> for one but got arseholed out.

Just because some fool claims something...

> He did have a casual job as emergency standby in a Law University

Before that other stuff.

> Doubt full he actually passed any law degree.

Have fun actually explaining how he managed to be admitted to
the Delaware bar and practiced as a public defender without one.

All trivial to check.

> He used sickness to
> overturn a fail (caught plagiarizing answers)
> "Biden admitted to plagiarizing while in law school as well as lifting
> from writings by British politician Neil Kinnock while on the campaign
> trail -- and it became an issue that haunted his failed 1988
> presidential bid."

Irrelevant to your stupid lie about never having a real job.

>>> People who read the tabloids
>>
>> Like you.
>>
>>> deserve to be lied to.
>>
>> And you are with that shit rag you read.
>>
>>> <https://academic.oup.com/jah/article-abstract/98/4/1075/922221?redirectedFrom=fulltext>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/2fsfa783
>>> The 1967 Central Intelligence Agency Scandal: Catalyst in a
>>> Transforming Relationship between State and People
>>
>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>
>>>> I'm not stupid enough to use any yankee media.

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 by: Petzl - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 01:24 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 11:40:08 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:36:19 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:20:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 07:46:28 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 18:58:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird>
>>>>>>>> Operation Mockingbird was a CIA project that recruited journalists
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> write fake stories promoting government ideas while dispelling
>>>>>>>> communist ones
>>>>>
>>>>>>> They never recruited any of the journos that work for the media I
>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not stupid enough to use any yankee media.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your recounts to me say you do!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, I use our ABC Just In and the BBC RSS.
>>>
>>>> Just leftie crap
>>>
>>> Nope, plenty of facts.
>
>> Chook food Rod
>
>Just because some fool claims something...
>
>>>> have they mentioned the Elon Musk Twitter files at
>>>> all?
>>>
>>> They don't bother with conspiracy theory shit.
>
>> Elon Musk is a registered Democrat who now owns twitter.
>
>Both of them did cover the last but weren't actually stupid
>enough to bother with mentioning the first irrelevant bit
>
>> Keep eating your media chook food Rod
>
>Keep lapping up every conspiracy theory going.
>
"Conspiracy theory" was entered into our Lexicon by the CIA/FBI after
they murdered President John F Kennedy.
<https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1604139690629730304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1604139690629730304%7Ctwgr%5E6acf623e8e84c092ddb43b8f1ae4190aa05457d4%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fheadlineusa.com%2Frfk-jr-praises-tucker-carlson-for-covering-cias-role-in-jfk-assassination%2F&fbclid=IwAR0NVV-MxBgQeAn_O82L_AHXoY4_-Mz39XKLWzWIp1qD3rH-tN2-cypnY_I>
https://tinyurl.com/2dra6g77
Then they started making our media feed Chook food to it's
readers/listeners. Musk's release of the Twitter files prove that they
did not want the free world to have free speech or free elections!
<https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird?fbclid=IwAR1qSB6FRB5e7U3ke-sqqAU7hQTz0_NXgJu6chgTJmeD6NOcUDjlWD3jm6E>
https://tinyurl.com/2qokgd7c
--
Petzl
"What is the cost of lies? It’s not that we’ll mistake them for the truth.
The real danger is that if we hear enough lies,
then we no longer recognize the truth at all."

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 by: Petzl - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 01:28 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 11:48:32 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>
>>>> <https://academic.oup.com/jah/article-abstract/98/4/1075/922221?redirectedFrom=fulltext>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/2fsfa783
>>>> The 1967 Central Intelligence Agency Scandal: Catalyst in a
>>>> Transforming Relationship between State and People
>>>
>>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>>
>>>>> I'm not stupid enough to use any yankee media.
>
Like the feed the chooks ABC?
<https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-30/andrew-tate-arrested-romania-after-greta-thunberg-feud/101817042>
overseas media
<https://news.yahoo.com/pizza-box-didn-t-lead-140414176.html?ref=upstract.com>
--
Petzl
"What is the cost of lies? It’s not that we’ll mistake them for the truth.
The real danger is that if we hear enough lies,
then we no longer recognize the truth at all."

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 01:49 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 11:44:04 +1100, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 2/01/2023 11:19 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 10:40:35 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/01/2023 8:47 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 21:27:37 -0000 (UTC), Lars <lars@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Melting sea ice has only a minor impact on sea level rise because
>>>>> the ice
>>>>> is already in the ocean, but it does cause major changes to the
>>>>> planet.
>>>>> When sea ice melts, more sunlight is absorbed by the Earth, which
>>>>> causes
>>>>> more warming.
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s a vicious cycle. And here’s how it works:
>>>>>
>>>>> When solar radiation hits snow and ice, approximately 90% of it is
>>>>> reflected back out to space. As global warming causes more snow and
>>>>> ice to
>>>>> melt each summer, the ocean underneath the ice is exposed. The dark
>>>>> color
>>>>> of ocean absorbs more incoming solar radiation, reflecting less back
>>>>> out
>>>>> to space. In this way, melting ice causes more warming and so more
>>>>> ice
>>>>> melts. This is known as a feedback. According to a recent scientific
>>>>> study
>>>>> that used computer models to predict the future of Arctic sea ice,
>>>>> there
>>>>> may be no more sea ice left in the Arctic Ocean during summer within
>>>>> the
>>>>> next few decades
>>>>>
>>>>> You can make a simple model that shows how the color of ice and water
>>>>> impacts temperature.
>>>>>
>>>>> What you need:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 thermometers
>>>>> A photo of what sea ice and ocean look like from a satellite (like
>>>>> this
>>>>> one from the NASA Earth Observatory)
>>>>> Tape
>>>>> Watch or stopwatch
>>>>> A lamp with a 75-100 watt incandescent bulb (or sunshine)
>>>>>
>>>>> What you do:
>>>>>
>>>>> Fix thermometers to the back of the picture using tape. One
>>>>> thermometer
>>>>> bulb should be under ice and the other under ocean. Place the
>>>>> thermometers
>>>>> so that when you lay the picture down on a table, they are right
>>>>> side up
>>>>> and can be read.
>>>>> Place the light about a foot above the picture. Don’t turn it on yet!
>>>>> Read the thermometers before the light is turned on.
>>>>> Turn on their light and record the start time.
>>>>> Read the temperature of both thermometers every two minutes. Which
>>>>> warms
>>>>> faster: the thermometer under white ice or the one under dark ocean?
>>>>> Check out more icy science:
>>>>>
>>>>> Types of Ice
>>>>> Climate and Ice
>>>>> Melting Arctic Sea Ice and Ocean Circulation
>>>>> Compare Arctic Sea Ice Extent
>>>>> A classroom version of the activity above: Looking into Surface
>>>>> Albedo
>>>>>
>>>>> https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/sea-ice-and-
>>>>> heat-vicious-cycle
>>>>
>>>> Yebbut how do you explain the next Ice Age?
>>>
>>> **An ice age is ALWAYS preceded by falling temperatures.
>>>
>>> The average temperature of the planet is RISING.
>>>
>>> Therefore, we cannot expect to see an ice age anytime soon.

>> But there will eventually BE one.

> There MIGHT be an ice age. Or not.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist fellas ?

> All present evidence suggests that there is no ice age in our future.

That's just waffle. We don't actually know what
produces ice ages and so there isnt any evidence
about whether we will have another one or not.

> Again: An ice age is ALWAYS preceded by falling temperatures.

Hardly surprising, stupid.

> We are experiencing RISING temperatures.

But it remains to be seen how long that minimal change will continue for..

> Zero chance of an ice age.

BULLSHIT.

Pity about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ice_Age_Temperature.png

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 01:53 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 12:24:20 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 11:40:08 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:36:19 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:20:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 07:46:28 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2023 18:58:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird>
>>>>>>>>> Operation Mockingbird was a CIA project that recruited
>>>>>>>>> journalists
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> write fake stories promoting government ideas while dispelling
>>>>>>>>> communist ones
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They never recruited any of the journos that work for the media I
>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not stupid enough to use any yankee media.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your recounts to me say you do!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, I use our ABC Just In and the BBC RSS.
>>>>
>>>>> Just leftie crap
>>>>
>>>> Nope, plenty of facts.
>>
>>> Chook food Rod
>>
>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>
>>>>> have they mentioned the Elon Musk Twitter files at
>>>>> all?
>>>>
>>>> They don't bother with conspiracy theory shit.
>>
>>> Elon Musk is a registered Democrat who now owns twitter.
>>
>> Both of them did cover the last but weren't actually stupid
>> enough to bother with mentioning the first irrelevant bit
>>
>>> Keep eating your media chook food Rod
>>
>> Keep lapping up every conspiracy theory going.
>>
> "Conspiracy theory" was entered into our Lexicon by the CIA/FBI after
> they murdered President John F Kennedy.

BULLSHIT. There have always been plenty of them,
most obviously with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

> <https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1604139690629730304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1604139690629730304%7Ctwgr%5E6acf623e8e84c092ddb43b8f1ae4190aa05457d4%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fheadlineusa.com%2Frfk-jr-praises-tucker-carlson-for-covering-cias-role-in-jfk-assassination%2F&fbclid=IwAR0NVV-MxBgQeAn_O82L_AHXoY4_-Mz39XKLWzWIp1qD3rH-tN2-cypnY_I>
> https://tinyurl.com/2dra6g77

Just because some fool claims something...

> Then they started making our media feed Chook food to it's
> readers/listeners. Musk's release of the Twitter files prove that they
> did not want the free world to have free speech or free elections!
> <https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird?fbclid=IwAR1qSB6FRB5e7U3ke-sqqAU7hQTz0_NXgJu6chgTJmeD6NOcUDjlWD3jm6E>
> https://tinyurl.com/2qokgd7c

Just because some fool claims something...

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 01:54 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 12:28:55 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 11:48:32 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>>> <https://academic.oup.com/jah/article-abstract/98/4/1075/922221?redirectedFrom=fulltext>
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/2fsfa783
>>>>> The 1967 Central Intelligence Agency Scandal: Catalyst in a
>>>>> Transforming Relationship between State and People
>>>>
>>>> Just because some fool claims something...
>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not stupid enough to use any yankee media.
>>
> Like the feed the chooks ABC?
> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-30/andrew-tate-arrested-romania-after-greta-thunberg-feud/101817042>
> overseas media
> <https://news.yahoo.com/pizza-box-didn-t-lead-140414176.html?ref=upstract.com>

Nothing to do with the CIA, stupid.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 04:29 UTC

On 2/01/2023 12:49 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 11:44:04 +1100, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 2/01/2023 11:19 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 10:40:35 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/01/2023 8:47 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 21:27:37 -0000 (UTC), Lars <lars@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Melting sea ice has only a minor impact on sea level rise because
>>>>>> the ice
>>>>>> is already in the ocean, but it does cause major changes to the
>>>>>> planet.
>>>>>> When sea ice melts, more sunlight is absorbed by the Earth, which
>>>>>> causes
>>>>>> more warming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s a vicious cycle.  And here’s how it works:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When solar radiation hits snow and ice, approximately 90% of it is
>>>>>> reflected back out to space. As global warming causes more snow
>>>>>> and ice to
>>>>>> melt each summer, the ocean underneath the ice is exposed. The
>>>>>> dark color
>>>>>> of ocean absorbs more incoming solar radiation, reflecting less
>>>>>> back out
>>>>>> to space. In this way, melting ice causes more warming and so more
>>>>>> ice
>>>>>> melts. This is known as a feedback. According to a recent
>>>>>> scientific study
>>>>>> that used computer models to predict the future of Arctic sea ice,
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> may be no more sea ice left in the Arctic Ocean during summer
>>>>>> within the
>>>>>> next few decades
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can make a simple model that shows how the color of ice and water
>>>>>> impacts temperature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you need:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2 thermometers
>>>>>> A photo of what sea ice and ocean look like from a satellite (like
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> one from the NASA Earth Observatory)
>>>>>> Tape
>>>>>> Watch or stopwatch
>>>>>> A lamp with a 75-100 watt incandescent bulb (or sunshine)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you do:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fix thermometers to the back of the picture using tape. One
>>>>>> thermometer
>>>>>> bulb should be under ice and the other under ocean. Place the
>>>>>> thermometers
>>>>>> so that when you lay the picture down on a table, they are right
>>>>>> side up
>>>>>> and can be read.
>>>>>> Place the light about a foot above the picture. Don’t turn it on yet!
>>>>>> Read the thermometers before the light is turned on.
>>>>>> Turn on their light and record the start time.
>>>>>> Read the temperature of both thermometers every two minutes. Which
>>>>>> warms
>>>>>> faster: the thermometer under white ice or the one under dark ocean?
>>>>>> Check out more icy science:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Types of Ice
>>>>>> Climate and Ice
>>>>>> Melting Arctic Sea Ice and Ocean Circulation
>>>>>> Compare Arctic Sea Ice Extent
>>>>>> A classroom version of the activity above: Looking into Surface
>>>>>> Albedo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/climate-change-impacts/sea-ice-and-
>>>>>> heat-vicious-cycle
>>>>>
>>>>> Yebbut how do you explain the next Ice Age?
>>>>
>>>> **An ice age is ALWAYS preceded by falling temperatures.
>>>>
>>>> The average temperature of the planet is RISING.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, we cannot expect to see an ice age anytime soon.
>
>>>  But there will eventually BE one.
>
>> There MIGHT be an ice age. Or not.
>
> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist fellas ?
>
>> All present evidence suggests that there is no ice age in our future.
>
> That's just waffle. We don't actually know what
> produces ice ages

**Bullshit. We know EXACTLY what causes an ice age - FALLING
temperatures and falling CO2 levels.

We are presently experiencing RISING temperatures and RISING CO2 levels.
While those two things occur, there is zero chance of an ice age. It's
just physics.

Falling temperatures = ice age.
Rising temperatures = no ice age.

It really is that simple.

and so there isnt any evidence
> about whether we will have another one or not.

**Unless temperatures begin to fall, there is zero chance of an ice age.

>
>> Again: An ice age is ALWAYS preceded by falling temperatures.
>
> Hardly surprising, stupid.

**Clearly, it needs to be stated. Some of the morons reading these pages
still don't understand:

Falling temperatures = ice age.
Rising temperatures = no ice age.

>
>> We are experiencing RISING temperatures.
>
> But it remains to be seen how long that minimal change will continue for.

**As long as CO2 levels continue to rise, so will temperatures.

>
>> Zero chance of an ice age.
>
> BULLSHIT.
>
> Pity about
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ice_Age_Temperature.png

**Again:

Falling temperatures = ice age.
Rising temperatures = no ice age.

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