On 6/01/2023 11:13 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 10:07:16 +1100, Fran
> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/01/2023 12:17 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 15:52:37 +1100, Fran
>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/01/2023 11:16 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 10:22:06 +1100, Fran
>>>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/01/2023 11:20 pm, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 17:00:26 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.ipcc.ch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UN? You cannot be serious!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trevor please stop arguing with this moron as all his responses (and
>>>>>> especially this one) reveal that that he's just another ill-educated,
>>>>>> parochial, ignorant boob.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that the best you can do, you obsequious asslicking piece of shite?
>>>>
>>>> More proof of your lack of education and your ignorance. Learn to read.
>>>> Or ask someone to explain arse licking.
>>>
>>> No need. Do you even know what 'obsequious' MEANS?
>>
>> Of course. Clearly you don't. Learn to read as currently you aren't
>> competent.
>
> Pathetic. What are you, 5 years old?
>
>>>> I didn't do any arse licking. I did describe you.
>>>
>>> You have been licking Twevor's ass wholesale. It describes YOU,
>>> shithead.
>>
>> That's your fantasy.
>
> It's your daily obligation.

Your fantasy is all your own work.

>> You clearly don't read well enough to understand that my words described
>> you. I never implied that Trevor's arse has been, or needs, licking.
>> Effectively I told you that you are a know nothing, uneducated and
>> narrow minded fuckwit and I asked Trevor to stop playing with you.
>> But I'm sure you still won't get that message despite my repeating it.
>
> Are you going to make ANY contribution to the topic of this thread or
> are you simply going to keep brown-nosing Twevor?

I never have brown nosed Trevor. But then to someone like you, my using
the word 'please' probably does constitute brown nosing.

In alt.global-warming Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
> On 7/01/2023 11:23 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:47:40 -0000 (UTC), R Kym Horsell
>> <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote:
>>> In alt.global-warming Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> If you dont tune the motor every
>>>>>>>> week that can drop to 20%.
>>>>>>> More bullshit with current ICE cars which tune themselves continuously.
>>>>>> Sort of correct.
>>>>> According to Rod, if a robot does it then it doesn't happen.
>>>> In fact I actually said that it happens continuously, you pathetic excuse
>>>> for a bullshit artist.
>>> So if it happens "continuously" (or every few seconds because
>>> digital) that is not happening at all and older MV dont exist anymore?
>>> We all know who the dipstick is. You supply more material every day.
>> Might not like agreeing with Rod, but he is mostly correct!
>> <https://www.tiktok.com/@make_thetruth_greatagain/video/7179113681651813675?_r=1&_t=8YlGWzqGFJB&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7179113681651813675>
>> https://tinyurl.com/2palpy4w
>> 6 times more mining to produce an electric vehicle comparable to
>> combustion engined vehicle. Also might I add electric vehicles have a
>> lifespan. There are vintage combustion engined vehicles still on the
>> road today.
> **LOL. Like my old Commodore. Two engines, a replacement gearbox and a
> bunch of other stuff. Same car though.

I think the byline was "fools seldom differ".
Wonks seem to pull one foot out of their mouth to immediately stick
both feet in.
Misconstruing "you" as literally the car owner, ignorning older
vehicles, trying to be real Pre-Sise and Real Mod-rean and then somehow,
but slipping up to show current makers are still supposedly in the analog
control era.
The kinda people that get a glowing reference from the boss with
a list of contacts to get them a job working with the chief compeditor.

--
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fundamentally erroneous.
-- BONZO@27-32-240-172 [daily nymshifter], 19 Jan 2011 15:29 +1100
[Bonzo has elsewhere claimed the germ theory of disease is an "erroneous
consensus view"].

On 7/01/2023 12:57 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:38:32 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:13:05 +0000, KKKernal Corn <vet@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 10:07:16 +1100, Fran
>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/01/2023 12:17 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 15:52:37 +1100, Fran
>>>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/01/2023 11:16 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 10:22:06 +1100, Fran
>>>>>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> No need. Do you even know what 'obsequious' MEANS?
>>>>
>>>> Of course. Clearly you don't. Learn to read as currently you aren't
>>>> competent.
>>>
>>> Pathetic. What are you, 5 years old?
>>>
>>>>>> I didn't do any arse licking. I did describe you.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have been licking Twevor's ass wholesale. It describes YOU,
>>>>> shithead.
>>>>
>>>> That's your fantasy.
>>>
>>> It's your daily obligation.
>>>
>>>> You clearly don't read well enough to understand that my words described
>>>> you. I never implied that Trevor's arse has been, or needs, licking.
>>>> Effectively I told you that you are a know nothing, uneducated and
>>>> narrow minded fuckwit and I asked Trevor to stop playing with you.
>>>> But I'm sure you still won't get that message despite my repeating it.
>>>
>>> Are you going to make ANY contribution to the topic of this thread or
>>> are you simply going to keep brown-nosing Twevor?
>>>
>> "Fran" never does she is obsequious only to the far lefty loons.
>> You will now be plonked she does this to all those intelligent

Poor old pretzel. I'm sure you can't help being the village idiot of
aus.pol and that your dementia is now going off the scale but you could
do something about your obsession with me. I've told you that I have
never reported you or your channel to Youtube and that I am not
responsbile for having your channel removed. Whoever did so was
probably doing the world a favour but it was nto me (and givne how often
yu lie, I'm still nto convinced that you ever had any such channel).
I'm not interested enough in you to do anything other than to insult you
on usenet.

> That would be appreciated. She adds nothing to the discussion.

LOL. Your fantasy is that you do add something to the thread but you
are, and remain, an ignorant troll.

On 7/01/2023 9:41 am, frodo2 wrote:
> On 05 Jan 2023, Fran
> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com> posted
> some news:tp7l74$2ulfs$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 6/01/2023 12:17 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 15:52:37 +1100, Fran
>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/01/2023 11:16 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 10:22:06 +1100, Fran
>>>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/01/2023 11:20 pm, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 17:00:26 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.ipcc.ch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UN? You cannot be serious!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trevor please stop arguing with this moron as all his responses
>>>>>> (and especially this one) reveal that that he's just another
>>>>>> ill-educated, parochial, ignorant boob.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that the best you can do, you obsequious asslicking piece of
>>>>> shite?
>>>>
>>>> More proof of your lack of education and your ignorance. Learn to
>>>> read.
>>>> Or ask someone to explain arse licking.
>>>
>>> No need. Do you even know what 'obsequious' MEANS?
>>
>> Of course. Clearly you don't. Learn to read as currently you aren't
>> competent.
>
> If one is posting on Usenet they are competent!
Nope. Posting on usenet is certainly not an indicator of competent
reading skills. Reading competence requires comprehension. Corn cant'
differentiate a simple request from obsequiousness so he's failed at
reading competence.

In alt.global-warming Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
....
>> If one is posting on Usenet they are competent!
> Nope. Posting on usenet is certainly not an indicator of competent
> reading skills. Reading competence requires comprehension. Corn cant'
> differentiate a simple request from obsequiousness so he's failed at
> reading competence.

It's a kind of competence with many possible causes.
I'm speaking as a former junior prison shrink here (HMP Pentridge 80s).
There is brain damage or birth defects, incl genetic factors.
And there is apparently just plumb mental laziness.
One case I saw (actually, now the memories are flooding back and I'll
need a stiff ginger ale in a minute) was a close parallel with a book
and/or film some people might remember "Flowers For Algernon".
Part of some assessment was giving the fellow some basic tests
among which included showing photographs and getting them to
explain what the people were doing and feeling in the photos.
The only case in 10y of practice the guy just could not come up with anything.
He also couldnt come up with the number of corners on a capital F.
It depended on the F, he explained. Maybe R.S.'s secret younger brother.

--
[From the Wayback Machine:]

Mission Accomplished!
ABC News, 29 Mar 2014
PM Tony Abbott has declared the defeat of people smugglers
today, saying there has been no successful landing of
a boatload of asylum seekers for 100 days.
Under previous conservative govts outlying AUS territories,
coastal waters, and finally the AUS coast were removed
from the immigration zone. A successful landing of asylum seekers
apparently now requires a boat to tie up some distance inland.
As a second-string defence, a news blackout on any asylum boat
arrivals was declared when the Abbott govt was elected in late 2013
because the prev policy of loudly publicising each arrival as practised
by the then-opposition was now seen as assisting traffickers.
While there were initially weekly news briefs after the ban came into
place -- to keep the public informed -- these were later cancelled after
AUS journalists discovered they could get reliable info from Youtube
and Indonesian and PNG authorities.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 11:36:19 +1100, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 7/01/2023 11:23 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:47:40 -0000 (UTC), R Kym Horsell
>> <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In alt.global-warming Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you dont tune the motor every
>>>>>>>> week that can drop to 20%.
>>>>>>> More bullshit with current ICE cars which tune themselves continuously.
>>>>>> Sort of correct.
>>>>> According to Rod, if a robot does it then it doesn't happen.
>>>> In fact I actually said that it happens continuously, you pathetic excuse
>>>> for a bullshit artist.
>>>
>>> So if it happens "continuously" (or every few seconds because
>>> digital) that is not happening at all and older MV dont exist anymore?
>>>
>>> We all know who the dipstick is. You supply more material every day.
>>>
>> Might not like agreeing with Rod, but he is mostly correct!
>> <https://www.tiktok.com/@make_thetruth_greatagain/video/7179113681651813675?_r=1&_t=8YlGWzqGFJB&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7179113681651813675>
>> https://tinyurl.com/2palpy4w
>> 6 times more mining to produce an electric vehicle comparable to
>> combustion engined vehicle. Also might I add electric vehicles have a
>> lifespan. There are vintage combustion engined vehicles still on the
>> road today.
>
>**LOL. Like my old Commodore. Two engines, a replacement gearbox and a
>bunch of other stuff. Same car though.
>
You realize the mining for batteries is real nasties!
destroys life in water supplies.
<https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries/>
https://tinyurl.com/yz38hb4f
Your old gearbox would be repaired. been through this myself.
Rust is what eventually put my old cars off the road, then they were
then sent to be melted down for the metals.

The Capital Wind Farm commissioned 2009 needs tearing down as their
wind generators, so far one has exploded, indicating the others use by
date is up! before this some of their turbine propellers had broken
off, one of them in 2015 (the first?) ending up in lake George which
is some miles away!
<https://www.google.com/maps/place/Capital+Wind+Farm/@-35.1661165,149.4920128,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x8f310b5078d82eb4!8m2!3d-35.1661165!4d149.518277>
https://tinyurl.com/2pbnzrqk
--
Petzl
Rarely see anyone on a ballot form that looks even employable.
It is the voter that employs these unemployables

Biggest fraud is allowing only parties to choose candidates by putting
one in the ballot square. Parties always end up run by overseas
interests, which become overseas landlords!

This should be for every candidate not a party only,

For instance Jane Bloggs I want employed, putting one beside her name
would allow her candidate preference choices to continue. the count,
simple, but you can number more than one if you chose (all 197 if you
are keen)
example
If you number, say ten employables (1 to 10)
As the tenth selection is your last count that selection get gets to
Finish the preference count

R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote

>>>>>> If you dont tune the motor every
>>>>>> week that can drop to 20%.
>>>>> More bullshit with current ICE cars which tune themselves
>>>>> continuously.
>>>> Sort of correct.
>>> According to Rod, if a robot does it then it doesn't happen.
>> In fact I actually said that it happens continuously, you pathetic
>> excuse
>> for a bullshit artist.

> So if it happens "continuously" (or every few seconds because
> digital) that is not happening at all and older MV dont exist anymore?

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

In alt.global-warming Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>> If you dont tune the motor every
>>>>>>> week that can drop to 20%.
>>>>>> More bullshit with current ICE cars which tune themselves
>>>>>> continuously.
>>>>> Sort of correct.
>>>> According to Rod, if a robot does it then it doesn't happen.
>>> In fact I actually said that it happens continuously, you pathetic
>>> excuse
>>> for a bullshit artist.
>> So if it happens "continuously" (or every few seconds because
>> digital) that is not happening at all and older MV dont exist anymore?
> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
> <reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
> belongs>

Dont worry what people think. Cry if you have to.

WORLD NEAR OR ABOVE RECORD TEMPERATURES FOR 2022
------------------------------------------------

While there are still December's numbers to come, dozens of datasets
for global temps -- essentially every national met bureau and science
agency on the planet runs their own tally of global temps to
cross-check each other -- show many regions were either near record
warm (i.e. top 10 of the past 170+ years of modern data) or were well
over 1C above 19th century norms. One month is not going to change that,
esp given the end of Dec is when the earth is getting closest to the sun.

Data Series Jan-Nov Rank
rel pre ind (/173years)
aravgNTemp 1.812 1 NEW RECORD
aravgSTemp 0.815 2 ALMOST NEW RECORD
aravgArcland 2.944 5
aravgArc 2.378 5
aravgNHland 2.009 6
aravgArcocean 1.668 10
hadcrut5nh 1.638 6
nhtsdsst 1.550 6
aravgNH 1.505 6
hadcrut5 1.324 6
uah_globe6NoPolLand 1.268 5
glbtsdsst 1.250 5
aravgSHland 1.239 11
uah_globe6NoExtLand 1.237 5
uah_globe6NoPol 1.236 6
uah_globe6SoPolLand 1.208 11
uah_globe6NoPolOcean 1.198 6
aravg 1.195 6
uah_globe6NoExt 1.188 5
aravgNHocean 1.184 5
uah_globe6NoExtOcean 1.143 6
uah_globe6NHLand 1.138 6
aravgAntarcland 1.090 4
uah_globe6USA48 1.088 11
uah_globe6USA49 1.078 10
uah_globe6GlobeLand 1.075 8
aravgEquat 1.013 19
uah_globe6NH 1.012 9
hadcrut5sh 1.010 6
uah_globe6SoExtOcean 0.978 8
uah_globe6SoExt 0.976 8
uah_globe6SoExtLand 0.960 15
shtsdsst 0.951 6
jma 0.949 6
uah_globe6SHLand 0.936 11
uah_globe6 0.930 10
uah_globe6NHOcean 0.930 11

--
Kruger and Dunning argue that for a given skill, incompetent people will:
1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, only if
they can be trained to substantially improve [their own performance].
Dunning later drew an analogy with anosognosia in which a person who
suffers a physical disability because of brain injury seems unaware of
or denies the existence of the disability, even for dramatic
impairments such as blindness or paralysis.
Dunning & Kruger & others concluded that the root cause is that, in
contrast to high performers, "poor performers do not learn from
feedback suggesting a need to improve".
Ehrlinger, Joyce; Johnson, Kerri; Banner, Matthew; Dunning, David;
Kruger, Justin (2008). "Why the unskilled are unaware: Further
explorations of (absent) self-insight among the incompetent".
Organizational Behavior and Human Decision Processes 105 (105): 98-121.

On 7/01/2023 12:52 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 11:36:19 +1100, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 7/01/2023 11:23 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:47:40 -0000 (UTC), R Kym Horsell
>>> <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In alt.global-warming Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you dont tune the motor every
>>>>>>>>> week that can drop to 20%.
>>>>>>>> More bullshit with current ICE cars which tune themselves continuously.
>>>>>>> Sort of correct.
>>>>>> According to Rod, if a robot does it then it doesn't happen.
>>>>> In fact I actually said that it happens continuously, you pathetic excuse
>>>>> for a bullshit artist.
>>>>
>>>> So if it happens "continuously" (or every few seconds because
>>>> digital) that is not happening at all and older MV dont exist anymore?
>>>>
>>>> We all know who the dipstick is. You supply more material every day.
>>>>
>>> Might not like agreeing with Rod, but he is mostly correct!
>>> <https://www.tiktok.com/@make_thetruth_greatagain/video/7179113681651813675?_r=1&_t=8YlGWzqGFJB&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7179113681651813675>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/2palpy4w
>>> 6 times more mining to produce an electric vehicle comparable to
>>> combustion engined vehicle. Also might I add electric vehicles have a
>>> lifespan. There are vintage combustion engined vehicles still on the
>>> road today.
>>
>> **LOL. Like my old Commodore. Two engines, a replacement gearbox and a
>> bunch of other stuff. Same car though.
>>
> You realize the mining for batteries is real nasties!

**Do you realise that there are other battery technologies?

Like:

Al-Ion
H2 fuel cell
Etc

Li-Ion batteries are a stop-gap notion only. Al-Ion batteries will
completely dominate that particular segment. H2 fuel cell batteries will
likely dominate a significant segment of automotive use.

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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> The Capital Wind Farm commissioned 2009 needs tearing down

Nope.

> as their
> wind generators, so far one has exploded, indicating the others use by
> date is up!

Corse no coal fired generator has ever gone bang, eh ?

> before this some of their turbine propellers had broken
> off, one of them in 2015 (the first?) ending up in lake George which
> is some miles away!
> <https://www.google.com/maps/place/Capital+Wind+Farm/@-35.1661165,149.4920128,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x8f310b5078d82eb4!8m2!3d-35.1661165!4d149.518277>
> https://tinyurl.com/2pbnzrqk

Corse no coal fired generator has ever gone bang, eh ?

On 1/3/23 11:30, Max wrote:
> Re: the proposed 'voice to parliament' to be inserted into the constitution
>
> The 'voice' should not be in the constitution.
>
> What if the High Court does something unexpected like Mabo - the case
> that recognised native title - and give the 'voice' more powers than
> people thought it would have?
>
> Unelected judges should not have the power to give the 'voice' certain
> powers.  That should only be in the hands of the people, via the elected
> members of parliament.
>
> This is not a troll, but a genuine question for dicussion.

They already have a voice, same as every other citizen, neither more nor
less: one man, one vote.

The 'voice' is empty virtue signalling. If the Government thinks there
should be some other consultative or advisory body, they could create
one by legislation. And this would avoid the problem of the High Court
potentially getting involved in unexpected ways which could not then be
rectified by parliament.

The Constitution should not be toyed with. Only truly necessary and well
grounded referenda should be considered.

R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote

>>>>>>>> If you dont tune the motor every
>>>>>>>> week that can drop to 20%.
>>>>>>> More bullshit with current ICE cars which tune themselves
>>>>>>> continuously.
>>>>>> Sort of correct.
>>>>> According to Rod, if a robot does it then it doesn't happen.
>>>> In fact I actually said that it happens continuously, you pathetic
>>>> excuse
>>>> for a bullshit artist.
>>> So if it happens "continuously" (or every few seconds because
>>> digital) that is not happening at all and older MV dont exist anymore?
>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

> WORLD NEAR

So nothing unusual.

> OR ABOVE RECORD TEMPERATURES FOR 2022

Nope, dope. And its very far from clear that even if it is 1C
above record temperatures, that is actually a bad thing.

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 13:27:45 +1100, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 7/01/2023 12:52 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2023 11:36:19 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/01/2023 11:23 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 23:47:40 -0000 (UTC), R Kym Horsell
>>>> <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In alt.global-warming Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you dont tune the motor every
>>>>>>>>>> week that can drop to 20%.
>>>>>>>>> More bullshit with current ICE cars which tune themselves
>>>>>>>>> continuously.
>>>>>>>> Sort of correct.
>>>>>>> According to Rod, if a robot does it then it doesn't happen.
>>>>>> In fact I actually said that it happens continuously, you pathetic
>>>>>> excuse
>>>>>> for a bullshit artist.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if it happens "continuously" (or every few seconds because
>>>>> digital) that is not happening at all and older MV dont exist
>>>>> anymore?
>>>>>
>>>>> We all know who the dipstick is. You supply more material every day.
>>>>>
>>>> Might not like agreeing with Rod, but he is mostly correct!
>>>> <https://www.tiktok.com/@make_thetruth_greatagain/video/7179113681651813675?_r=1&_t=8YlGWzqGFJB&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7179113681651813675>
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/2palpy4w
>>>> 6 times more mining to produce an electric vehicle comparable to
>>>> combustion engined vehicle. Also might I add electric vehicles have a
>>>> lifespan. There are vintage combustion engined vehicles still on the
>>>> road today.
>>>
>>> **LOL. Like my old Commodore. Two engines, a replacement gearbox and a
>>> bunch of other stuff. Same car though.
>>>
>> You realize the mining for batteries is real nasties!
>
> Do you realise that there are other battery technologies?
>
> Like:
>
> Al-Ion
> H2 fuel cell
> Etc

None of which are actually used in significant volume.

> Li-Ion batteries are a stop-gap notion only.

Easy to claim.

> Al-Ion batteries will completely dominate that particular segment.

Easy to claim without a shred of evidence for that claim.

> H2 fuel cell batteries will likely dominate a significant segment of
> automotive use.

Nope, because of the problem with storage of hydrogen
in car, the lack of any real distribution network and the
fact that the vast bulk of hydrogen comes from fossil fuels.

In alt.global-warming Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>> If you dont tune the motor every
>>>>>>>>> week that can drop to 20%.
>>>>>>>> More bullshit with current ICE cars which tune themselves
>>>>>>>> continuously.
>>>>>>> Sort of correct.
>>>>>> According to Rod, if a robot does it then it doesn't happen.
>>>>> In fact I actually said that it happens continuously, you pathetic
>>>>> excuse
>>>>> for a bullshit artist.
>>>> So if it happens "continuously" (or every few seconds because
>>>> digital) that is not happening at all and older MV dont exist anymore?
>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
> <reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
> belongs>
....

Have a little cry now. The world will try to carry on without your (whatever you contribute -- a good laugh every couple hrs maybe).

--

WORLD NEAR OR ABOVE RECORD TEMPERATURES FOR 2022
------------------------------------------------

While there are still December's numbers to come, dozens of datasets
for global temps -- essentially every national met bureau and science
agency on the planet runs their own tally of global temps to
cross-check each other -- show many regions were either near record
warm (i.e. top 10 of the past 170+ years of modern data) or were well
over 1C above 19th century norms. One month is not going to change that,
esp given the end of Dec is when the earth is getting closest to the sun.

I've included the Hillbilly's Friend -- atm temps gathered by the U of
Bammy Huntsville -- that have increasingly embarrassed some of the
sentient rock-heads there-abouts by showing pretty much what everyone
else gets even though they apparently tried to rig it by measuring the
atm temps rather than the surface temps and aimed their instruments
above 2 km where most greenhouse warming is happening ("the mirror in
the sky").

Items are mostly ordered by the value of the temp above pre ind times.
Since the UAH data comes from sats and started in the 1970s I've taken
some care to adjust their temps back to an equivalent they would have
seen in the 19th cent, so everything is more or less comparable.

To show how accurate my "adjustment" was, the UAH stuff comes in the
middle of the pack. Yea. You don't score above 2 million other
scientists registered at kaggle.com for not getting things right some
of the time: <kaggle.com/kymhorsell1>.

The N Temp zone according to the NOAA scores a NEW RECORD for the
Jan-Nov 2022 at 1.8C above pre ind. They also find the S Hem
registered .82C and is the 2nd-warmest in more than 150y. They find
the Arctic is way above what it was in the 19th cent and Arctic land
is almost 3C warmer than before we started the fossil pipelines
up. The Antarctic is up just over 1C.

NASA's numbers are a little less where comparable but have similar
patterns, with global temps even in a triple La Nina up 1.3C on
pre-ind, the NH up 1.6C, and the SH up almost 1C. NASA unfortunately
don't tend to look at areas as "small" as the Antarctic, let alone some
nitwit's flat.

The JMA and Hadley pretty much agree with the NASA numbers.

The UAH finds the atm above Arctic land was 1.3C higher in 2022 than
it would have been in the 19th cent. Above the N Temp zone and the
Antarctic were 1.2C higher. And above the S Temp zone almost 1C higher.

X28+ 2003/11/04, 19:53 UTC

Duration: 10083184 minutes

10083184 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 6 / 5 / 4 / 3 / 2 / 1 = 27.78655203

27 * 0.7865520282 = 21.23690476
....
2 * 0.6999999994 = 1.399999999

( 999999993 - 399999999 ) / 9 = 66666666

, / 6 = 99999999

99999999 - 66666666 = 33333333

33333333 / 101 = 330033

On 7/01/2023 12:16 pm, R Kym Horsell wrote:
> In alt.global-warming Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> If one is posting on Usenet they are competent!
>> Nope. Posting on usenet is certainly not an indicator of competent
>> reading skills. Reading competence requires comprehension. Corn cant'
>> differentiate a simple request from obsequiousness so he's failed at
>> reading competence.
>
> It's a kind of competence with many possible causes.

Indeed. The possible causes can be many but whatever the cause, usenet
has many posters who fail when it comes to being able to read well.

> I'm speaking as a former junior prison shrink here (HMP Pentridge 80s).

:-)) That must have been interesting.

> There is brain damage or birth defects, incl genetic factors.
> And there is apparently just plumb mental laziness.
> One case I saw (actually, now the memories are flooding back and I'll
> need a stiff ginger ale in a minute) was a close parallel with a book
> and/or film some people might remember "Flowers For Algernon".
> Part of some assessment was giving the fellow some basic tests
> among which included showing photographs and getting them to
> explain what the people were doing and feeling in the photos.
> The only case in 10y of practice the guy just could not come up with anything.
> He also couldnt come up with the number of corners on a capital F.

OMG!!!!!

> It depended on the F, he explained. Maybe R.S.'s secret younger brother.

LOL. Possibly.
>

On Sat, 07 Jan 2023 13:28:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> The Capital Wind Farm commissioned 2009 needs tearing down
>
>Nope.
>
>> as their
>> wind generators, so far one has exploded, indicating the others use by
>> date is up!
>
>Corse no coal fired generator has ever gone bang, eh ?
>
>> before this some of their turbine propellers had broken
>> off, one of them in 2015 (the first?) ending up in lake George which
>> is some miles away!
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/place/Capital+Wind+Farm/@-35.1661165,149.4920128,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x8f310b5078d82eb4!8m2!3d-35.1661165!4d149.518277>
>> https://tinyurl.com/2pbnzrqk
>
>Corse no coal fired generator has ever gone bang, eh ?
>
Not in Australia after the year our Lord 2000?
Other than South Australia blew one up and switched to candles!
--
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On 6/01/2023 10:19 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 09:55:02 +1100, Fran
> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/01/2023 12:11 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 08:23:17 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/01/2023 7:53 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 07:20:20 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/01/2023 11:20 pm, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 17:00:26 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/01/2023 4:29 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  <reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed
>>>>>>>>>>> where it belongs>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ice core data tells us that sometimes, temperature rise precedes CO2
>>>>>>>>>>>> rise and sometimes it lags.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Because they aren't as correlated as you have previously stupidly
>>>>>>>>>>> claimed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit. They are closely linked. When one goes up, the other follows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pathetic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **"Pathetic"? It's a fact you boob.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> RIGHT NOW, we are experiencing a period where CO2 rise is leading
>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature rise. I expect that may change when CO2 levels reach
>>>>>>>>>>>> approximately 500ppm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  And you will discover that it doesn't when that happens.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <reams of your endlessly repeated shit flushed where it belongs>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> At that point, we will see an increase in CO2 levels (and methane
>>>>>>>>>>>> levels), as the gases are released from oceans and Arctic regions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, of course, temperature levels will increase further. Then
>>>>>>>>>>>> CO2/methane levels and process repeats.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  We'll see, and even it it does, that will not see a climate
>>>>>>>>>>> catastrophe as you have previously stupidly claimed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> YOU made that stupid claim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Actually, I did not. I merely repeated what the climate scientists
>>>>>>>> have told us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By repeating it, the anus[sic] is on you to prove it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **No, it isn't. I have provided links to the best science available. If
>>>>>> YOU dispute that science, then it is up to YOU to submit your refutation
>>>>>> of that science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, over to you: Provide your page by page refutation of the science:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The report is extensive and I expect that it will take you quite some
>>>>>> time to read, understand and then submit your refutation of the science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> *You* call it the 'best science available', I don't. *I* call it yet
>>>>> more UN bullshit. Back over to you.
>>>>
>>>> **Good. You have called it bullshit. I assume you've read all the IPCC
>>>> reports and understood them. Submit your page by page refutation of the
>>>> IPCC reports. Or shut the fuck up.
>>>
>>> Listen here, convict spawn:
>>
>> Yep. Having had British convicts shipped to our shores is a history we
>> share with the US which also had convicts shipped to the shores of it's[sic]
>> colonies.
>
> Nothing on the scale of Oztralia's transportations.

?????? Nothing I wrote referred to number of convicts transported. But
then you never can read well.

And illiteracy
> noted.

> Oztralian immigration officer to new arrival: Do you have a criminal
> record?
> New arrival: I didn't know that was still a requirement.

Nah, that was the immigration officer at Ellis Island.
>
>> It's amazing how many Americans are ignorant of their nation's convict
>> history. They parade their ignorance when they try to insult
>> Australians about our convict past.
>
> STFU, convict spawn.

Nope. Sadly I don't have a single convict ancestor. They are highly
desirable to have in one's tree.

I see that you haven't added a single comment
> relevant to climate change or Ice Ages.

Neither have you so it's not a requirement.

On 6/01/2023 7:58 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> KKKernal Corn wrote on 6/1/23 12:11 am:
>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 08:23:17 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>>> **Good. You have called it bullshit. I assume you've read all the
>>> IPCC reports and understood them. Submit your page by page
>>> refutation of the IPCC reports. Or shut the fuck up.
>>
>> Listen here, convict spawn:  if it has been excreted by the UN then
>> it's bullshit by definition. Nothing of value EVER gets excreted by
>> the Turd World dominated UN.
> "Turd World dominated UN"?? Yes, you're correct, it is dominated by the
> U.S. of A.!! ;-P

:-)) Has the US paid up it's dues to the UN yet? Last I checked (which
is now some time ago) it owed about $2 billion.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>> The Capital Wind Farm commissioned 2009 needs tearing down

>> Nope.

>>> as their
>>> wind generators, so far one has exploded, indicating the others use by
>>> date is up!

>> Corse no coal fired generator has ever gone bang, eh ?

>>> before this some of their turbine propellers had broken
>>> off, one of them in 2015 (the first?) ending up in lake George which
>>> is some miles away!
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/place/Capital+Wind+Farm/@-35.1661165,149.4920128,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x8f310b5078d82eb4!8m2!3d-35.1661165!4d149.518277>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/2pbnzrqk

>> Corse no coal fired generator has ever gone bang, eh ?

> Not in Australia after the year our Lord 2000?

Bullshit. Pity about Callide C in 2021

> Other than South Australia blew one up and switched to candles!

petzl wrote on 6/1/23 9:44 pm:
> On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 7:33:51 PM UTC+11, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Petzl wrote on 6/1/23 11:29 am:
>>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 11:02:14 +1100, abc <automa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 12/24/22 08:39, Petzl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
>>>> and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
>>>> "The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
>>>> Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
>>>> the religion of Christ."
>>>>
>>>> No - that cant be true. That is only 5 or 10 years after the death of
>>>> Christ. It spread fast, but cant have spread that fast.
>>>>
>>> The Vatican first believed the scroll real, but could not verify it
>>> was 100% genuine, but probably is.
>>> The same for the Shroud of Christ
>>>
>> What "scroll", Petzl!!
>>
> One of a number unearthed by archeologists believed written by
> Tiberius Caesar and given to the Vatican.
>
Ah, so you don't know, Petzl.
--
Daniel

Fran wrote on 7/1/23 4:58 pm:
> On 6/01/2023 10:19 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 09:55:02 +1100, Fran
>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>> wrote:

<Snip>

>>> It's amazing how many Americans are ignorant of their nation's convict
>>> history.  They parade their ignorance when they try to insult
>>> Australians about our convict past.
>>
>> STFU, convict spawn.
>
> Nope.  Sadly I don't have a single convict ancestor.  They are highly
> desirable to have in one's tree.

Yeap!! I've got a Second Fleeter somewhere back there!! ;-)
--
Daniel

Fran wrote on 7/1/23 5:00 pm:
> On 6/01/2023 7:58 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> KKKernal Corn wrote on 6/1/23 12:11 am:
>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 08:23:17 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>> **Good. You have called it bullshit. I assume you've read all the
>>>> IPCC reports and understood them. Submit your page by page
>>>> refutation of the IPCC reports. Or shut the fuck up.
>>>
>>> Listen here, convict spawn:  if it has been excreted by the UN then
>>> it's bullshit by definition. Nothing of value EVER gets excreted by
>>> the Turd World dominated UN.
>> "Turd World dominated UN"?? Yes, you're correct, it is dominated by
>> the U.S. of A.!! ;-P
>
> :-))  Has the US paid up it's dues to the UN yet?  Last I checked (which
> is now some time ago) it owed about $2 billion.

I had a bit of a look around the UN site but could not find any mention
of Country Debts to UN.

DDG didn't help either!
--
Daniel

Max wrote on 3/1/23 11:30 am:
> Re: the proposed 'voice to parliament' to be inserted into the constitution
>
> The 'voice' should not be in the constitution.
>
> What if the High Court does something unexpected like Mabo - the case
> that recognised native title - and give the 'voice' more powers than
> people thought it would have?
>
> Unelected judges should not have the power to give the 'voice' certain
> powers.  That should only be in the hands of the people, via the elected
> members of parliament.

Judges should NOT be elected .... except by panel of Senior
Lawyers/Barristers/etc. People who know about the law.
>
> This is not a troll, but a genuine question for dicussion.

This is not a troll, but a genuine response!
--
Daniel

R Kym Horsell wrote on 7/1/23 1:59 am:
> In alt.global-warming KKKernal Corn <vet@invalid.com> wrote:
>> https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_AnnexVII.pdf
>>
>>
>>
Have you even READ the report you keep babbling about? If you had,
>> you'd have noticed a reference to the Quaternary Ice Age in the
>> glossary:
>>
>> "Ice age An informal term for a geological period characterized by
>> a long-term reduction in the temperature of the Earth?s climate,
>> resulting in the presence or expansion of ice sheets and glaciers.
>> Among the Earth?s ice ages is the current Quaternary Period,
>> characterized by alternating glacial and interglacial intervals.
>> See also Deglacial or deglaciation or glacial termination and
>> Glacial? interglacial cycles."
>>
>> This is consistent with the information I presented earlier and
>> which you found convenient to ignore:
> ....
>
> Not really. The current periodic glaciations started 2-3 MILLION
> years ago. Not billions. There is obviously a big 260 million year
> gap so we suspect the old ones are not the same kind of thing.

"we suspect" ... Who's this 'we'??

> The Cryogenian for example had a couple cycles with 20 MILLION years
> of ice each. The current (Milankovitch) cycles have only THOUSANDS
> of years of ice.
>
>> "The five major ice ages in the paleo record include the Huronian
>> glaciation (2.4 billion to 2.1 billion years ago), the Cryogenian
>> glaciation (720 million to 635 million years ago), the
>> Andean-Saharan glaciation (450 million to 420 million years ago),
>> the Late Paleozoic ice age (335 million to 260 million years ago)
>> and the Quaternary glaciation (2.7 million years ago to present).
>>
>

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