On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 09:10:51 +1100, Fran
<gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
wrote:

>On 13/01/2023 10:09 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>> KKKernal Corn wrote on 13/1/23 1:32 am:
>>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 23:14:09 +1100, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> KKKernal Corn wrote on 11/1/23 11:42 pm:
>>>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:31:49 +1100, Fran
>>>>> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <Snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> As I said, your gutter background is evident enough without more
>>>>>> proof.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, your convict and prostitute heritage has made you what you
>>>>> are. If that's not a gutter background, I don't know what is.
>>>>>
>>>> "convict" ... "prostitute" ..... Isn't one a sub-set of the other??
>>>
>>> Not necessarily. The needs of arriving convicts were met by
>>> prostitutes.
>>>
>> "convict" ... "prostitute" ..... Isn't one a sub-set of the other??
>>
>> Or are you suggesting the Prostitutes were legal??
>
>LOL

Found another anus to suck, cunt?

LOL

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 9:06:17 AM UTC+11, Ördög wrote:
Snip Ordog's (hero of his Genrikh Yagoda) Stasi propaganda sniping twisting and lying.
You like comedy this is hilarious
https://twitter.com/CarpeDonktum/status/1613700648218005506
Get in Jack, this car is fully loaded... with classified material.

<https://politicalvelcraft.org/2015/03/15/russia-u-s-masterminds-behind-kiev-ukraine-coup/>
https://tinyurl.com/2hwothkb
The trick of the situation was that outwardly the [Ukrainian] opposition was supported mostly by the Europeans. But we knew for sure that the real masterminds were our American friends,”Putin said in a documentary, ‘Crimea – The Way Home,’ aired by Rossiya 1 news channel.
“They helped training the nationalists, their armed groups, in Western Ukraine, in Poland and to some extent in Lithuania,” he added. “They facilitated the armed coup.”
The West spared no effort to prevent Crimea’s reunification with Russia, “by any means, in any format and under any scheme,” he noted.
Putin said this approach was far from being the best dealing with any country, and a post-Soviet country like Ukraine specifically. Such countries have a short record of living under a new political system and remain fragile. Violating constitutional order in such a country inevitably dealt a lot of damage to its statehood, the president said.
ISIL terrorist leader is CIA agent: Chechen president
The Real Puppet Masters Behind The Ukraine Snipers: Lead By The U.S. Taxpayer’s Money!
--
Petzl
Ordog the Armchair communist
https://ibb.co/B2nG6Tb
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical

On 14/01/2023 8:42 am, Ördög wrote:
> Petz, and his brand new series for 2023 of "The Village Idiot Show"

>> when you hear Trump being mentioned
>
> All people capable of rational thinking with alt-right fanaticism react
> the same when it comes your failed POTUS Orange menace hero...we all
> could laugh uncontrollably at his idiotic lies and stupid antics if only
> he did not represent the worst of the worst kind political trends in US
> world political madness and extremism.

Poor old pretzel. He IS posting into a thread about the Youtube video
called "The lions tweets tonight". If poor old pretzel wasn't such a
fuckwit AND if he knew anything about politics at all he'd be able to
figure out why the lyrics of that song resonate so well and why normal
peopel laugh at Trump and Trump supporters. He'd also know why both
Trump failed in 2022 and why Trump's cohorts failed in 2020.

Normal, middle class people rejected Trump AND his cohorts (which is
also why we got rid of Morrison and his creepy govt). Normal, middle
class people do not like low life grubs, shysters and liars.

And here is another Youtube extolling Trump's faults:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlZg-dObruo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yv80etxATs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us-Pkh0de50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3D7c7Aqs_k

>
> >
>> twitter.com
> >
> One of the worst kind of cesspit on the social media scene, made a lot
> worse that before under the management of your latest alt-right hero,
> Elon, the fully narcissistic ego maniac, golden spoon fed, worker
> exploitation obsessed, conservative capitalist anarcho-libertarian
> creep. One of the worst his ilk has on offer.
> >
> /snip/
>> "We all know that Trump is a liar and a thief.
> >
> Yes we do. He is a born grifter who greatest grift so far has been his
> Presidency.
> >
>> We know that.
> >
> We do!
> >
>> So it’s not that big a jump to say that he obstructed and he lied.
> >
> Correct!
> >
>> We don’t think Biden is a liar and a thief, so we give him the benefit
>> of the doubt."
>>
> Also correct.

Plus the documents were immediately returned to the archive once found
unlike in the Trump situation were he got his lawyers to lie and he kept
saying they were de-classfired and, and. and. Trumps a low life lying
grub. Always was, alwyas will be.

> But that does not mean this serious issue with classified documents do
> not need to be investigated thoroughly. It seems to me that the
> otherwise quite paranoid US state apparatus somehow isn't capable to
> keep important documents under proper protection when it comes to
> privileged people situated at the highest levels of politics and
> business. Unlike the brute force vehemence they go after even the
> smallest security breaches lower level public servants commit they are
> quite lax when someone does the same near or at the top of the hierarchy.
>
> /NOTE:
> All of Petz's completely idiotic and mostly plagiarised alt-right
> propaganda sigs are consigned to cyber nirvana w/o reading/
>
> :-P    :-P    :P
>

In article <2dn3shli27qinc6mscnm74u08i2vnblgbj@4ax.com>,
sick old nazoid paedo Andrew 'Andrzej' Baron ("KKKernal Corn") wrote:

> Found another anus to suck, cunt?

PLEASE stop using foul language in this forum, you shiteating,
pissdrinking, donkeydicksucking, grannyfucking, jizzlicking,
motherless pile of sub-excrement nazoid PAEDO filth who takes
dozens of muzzie dicks up his arse and throat on an hourly basis.

Thank you!

On 13/01/2023 11:13 pm, KKKernal Corn wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 14:21:52 +1100, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 13/01/2023 8:02 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>
> <b'rissed>
>
>>>>>>>>>>> "As the planet circles the sun, three factors affect how much sunlight
>>>>>>>>>>> it gets: its tilt (which ranges from 24.5 degrees to 22.1 degrees on a
>>>>>>>>>>> 41,000-year cycle); its eccentricity (the changing shape of its orbit
>>>>>>>>>>> around the sun, which ranges from a near-circle to an oval-like
>>>>>>>>>>> shape); and its wobble (one full wobble, which looks like a slowly
>>>>>>>>>>> spinning top, happens every 19,000 to 23,000 years), according to
>>>>>>>>>>> Milankovitch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In 1976, a landmark paper in the journal Science provided evidence
>>>>>>>>>>> that these three orbital parameters explained the planet's glacial
>>>>>>>>>>> cycles, Sandstrom said."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Care to refute that with your own hypothesis?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **I don't need to. The planet is warming. You can't have an ice age,
>>>>>>>>>> when the planet is warming.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Until it starts to cool down again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **OK then. YOU tell us: When will the planet begin to cool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL. Do you want an exact date and time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Yes. You claim that it will cool. Tell us when. More importantly: Tell
>>>>>> us by what mechanism, the planet will begin cooling.
>>>>>
>>>>> How about when global warming kills off 95% of the Earth's
>>>>> population...who will keep producing the CO2? How about when the
>>>>> orbit of the Earth gets to the point when the effect of the Sun is at
>>>>> a minimum? How about an asteroid hit like the one that killed off the
>>>>> dinosaurs? How about a nuclear winter? Any one of those is possible.
>>>>
>>>> **You STILL need to explain what mechanism will cause the planet to
>>>> cool. You're the one claiming that the IPCC and Arrhenius are wrong.
>>>
>>> I've just GIVEN youi several scenarios that could cause the planet to
>>> cool. You replied without even fucking READING them.
>>
>> **And YOU need explain:
>>
>> 1) If any of your suggestions will cause the warming to cease.
>
> Any one of them could.

**How? When?

>
>> 2) When any of your suggestions will cause the warming to cease.
>
> Nobody knows the exact date.

**Well, that's a big problem right there.

>
>> 3) If any of your suggestions will work, if the so-called 'tipping
>> point' is reached.
>
> Did you not claim that similar increases in global temperatures were
> reached in the past...and then decreased?

**Nope.

How did THAT happen?

**How did what happen? Something that I never claimed?

>
>>>
>>>>>>>> Which history tells us will
>>>>>>>>> always happen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **No. The history tells us that it DID happen. History cannot tell us
>>>>>>>> what WILL happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> History is a good predictor of what will happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Wrong, moron. History is an excellent indicator of what DID happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, shithead. "Those who do not remember history are doomed to
>>>>> repeat it" - George Santayana (1863-1912)
>>>>
>>>> **So? History is STILL an excellent indicator of what DID happen.
>>>> History does not tell us what WILL happen.
>>>
>>> History has a nasty habit of repeating itself for those who do not
>>> learn its lessons.
>>
>> **History is STILL an excellent indicator of what DID happen. History
>> does not tell us what WILL happen. History tells us what MIGHT happen.
>
> The Earth has had five major Ice Ages, including the current one,
> during the past 2.4 billion years. What makes you think there won't be
> more?

**There may be another. However, there is ZERO chance of an ice age
whilst temperatures are rising.

And, once more: History is STILL an excellent indicator of what DID
happen. History does not tell us what WILL happen. History tells us what
MIGHT happen.

>
>>>>>>>> Surely you don't think temperatures will keep rising
>>>>>>>>> ad infinitum?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **Of course not. I never claimed that they would. That they will rise
>>>>>>>> further is certain though. Depending upon what humans decide to do, will
>>>>>>>> determine how much further the temperatures will rise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they're not going to keep rising indefinitely, then they will stop.
>>>>>>> And what happens next? Do they stay the same or do they start to
>>>>>>> fall?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **That would depend on a very wide range of factors. Temperatures may
>>>>>> rise to equal the historical highs of around 10 ~ 14 degrees C above
>>>>>> today's levels.
>>>>>
>>>>> So how did they DROP from those historical highs?
>>>>
>>>> **No idea.
>>>
>>> The first true thing you've even written.
>>>
>>>> Possibly the growth of flora, sucking up all that CO2. You
>>>> know the stuff? CO2. The same stuff that YOU claim is not causing the
>>>> planet to warm faster than at any time in the past million years or so.
>>>
>>> If it happened before, why can't it happen again?
>>
>> **Maybe, maybe not. No one knows. In any case, it took more than ONE
>> HUNDRED MILLION years for the climate to reach the levels that suit
>> humans. So, although we may cause those temperatures to reach those
>> highs in a few hundred years, it may take hundreds of millions of years
>> to reverse. Maybe never.
>
> As you say, no one knows. Not the IPCC, not any of its detractors.

**Focus on my words. You have continually brought up the historical
temperature records. Those records tell us that some, unknown, natural
process brought temperatures down, but it took more than 100 million
years to do so. We are pushing temperatures UP in a scat few hundred
years. It is completely without precedent. The temperature rise is
occurring AT LEAST 100 times more rapidly than at any time in history.
We are burning fossil fuels at a rate such that we are burning fossil
fuels that took a million years to form each and every year.

>
>>>>>> No one knows. Maybe they'll go higher still. No one
>>>>>> knows, as we are entering unknown levels of CO2 concentration. It is
>>>>>> beyond dispute that temperatures will rise to around 1.5 degrees C above
>>>>>> historical average levels and probably 2 degrees. If humans do nothing,
>>>>>> then temperatures will rise further and, if the so-called 'tipping
>>>>>> point' is reached (which most climate scientists believe is a thing),
>>>>>> then nothing we can do will prevent a runaway warming. We are already
>>>>>> witnessing the beginnings of that runaway effect, with the large
>>>>>> releases of methane from Arctic regions.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you admit, no one knows. Least of all you.
>>>>
>>>> **Actually, the climate scientists are reasonably certain of this.
>>>> Remind us: What are your climate science credentials that we may trust
>>>> your insane claims?
>>>
>>> You first, what are YOUR credentials?
>>
>> **Asked and answered.
>>
>> Now, what are your climate science credentials?
>
> Mine are just like yours.

Petz and his deplorable "village Idiot Show"

> Ördög

> hero of his Genrikh Yagoda

YAWN!
Maybe it is time for you, Petz dear, to finally realise after at least
having seen (even if not quite comprehended) my posts to Usenet by now
for nearly two decades, that I do not follow hero worship of any kinds.
I praise any society that is capable of keeping its population well
balanced egalitarian, reasonably happy and well educated free of
horrible poverty, neglect by the establishment and exploitative
manipulation by a few completely undeserving creeps sitting at the top
of the hierarchy pyramid.

> Stasi propaganda sniping twisting and lying.

Newsflash to all ignorant morons who prefer to live under rocks:
The STASI is no more! And this has been the case for many decades by now!

So stop your childish alt-right hate filled moronic accusations of this
nature, Petz dear!
Do you really believe anyone here would take it seriously?

/snip whataboutist goalpost shifting crap that has bugger all to do with
the stated subject of this thread/

/NOTE:
All of Petz's completely idiotic and mostly plagiarised alt-right hate
propaganda sigs are consigned to cyber nirvana w/o reading/

:-P :-P :-P

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:40:05 +0000, KKKernal Corn <vet@invalid.com>
wrote:

>Found another anus to suck, cunt?
>
>LOL
>
Danirl65/Fran/Ordog all go to bed together
Be careful about what you let them know about you.
They are all Stasi type scum
--
Petzl
We know the inane Dumb3 are lying,
they know they are lying,
they know we know they are lying,
we know they know we know they are lying,
but they are still lying.
"Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn"

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 10:32:31 AM UTC+11, Ördög wrote:
> > Stasi propaganda sniping twisting and lying.
> Newsflash to all ignorant morons who prefer to live under rocks:
> The STASI is no more! And this has been the case for many decades by now!
>
Putin is what remains of the Stasi a arm of the KGB renamed FSB
>
You like comedy this is hilarious
https://twitter.com/CarpeDonktum/status/1613700648218005506
Get in Jack, this car is fully loaded... with classified material.

<https://politicalvelcraft.org/2015/03/15/russia-u-s-masterminds-behind-kiev-ukraine-coup/>
https://tinyurl.com/2hwothkb
The trick of the situation was that outwardly the [Ukrainian] opposition was supported mostly by the Europeans. But we knew for sure that the real masterminds were our American friends,”Putin said in a documentary, ‘Crimea – The Way Home,’ aired by Rossiya 1 news channel.
“They helped training the nationalists, their armed groups, in Western Ukraine, in Poland and to some extent in Lithuania,” he added. “They facilitated the armed coup.”
The West spared no effort to prevent Crimea’s reunification with Russia, “by any means, in any format and under any scheme,” he noted.
Putin said this approach was far from being the best dealing with any country, and a post-Soviet country like Ukraine specifically. Such countries have a short record of living under a new political system and remain fragile. Violating constitutional order in such a country inevitably dealt a lot of damage to its statehood, the president said.
ISIL terrorist leader is CIA agent: Chechen president
The Real Puppet Masters Behind The Ukraine Snipers: Lead By The U.S. Taxpayer’s Money!
--
Petzl
Ordog the Armchair communist
https://ibb.co/B2nG6Tb
As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 10:46:12 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:40:05 +0000, KKKernal Corn <vet@invalid.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Found another anus to suck, cunt?
>>
>>LOL
>>
>Danirl65/Fran/Ordog all go to bed together
>Be careful about what you let them know about you.
>They are all Stasi type scum

My name is KKKernal Corn. There is nothing else to know.

In article <tpse86$1d1d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
Mr Posting Robot <MrPostingRobot@kymhorsell.com> wrote:
>
> In alt.global-warming NoSpamAtAll <spamnot@not.home> wrote:
> >
> > In article <efi2shha279llfqghf9321aqqc21mah012@4ax.com>,
> > sick old nazoid paedo Andrew 'Andrzej' Baron ("KKKernal Corn") wrote:
> >> You suggested yourself that flora might absorb the CO2 when asked how
> >> previously high temperatures on the planet cooled.
> > And where will this flora come from, you poor old 'tard?
> > And how much can it absorb, exactly?
>
> The key is the isotopes.
> In our modern atm we can see C13 and C14 decreasing.
> That indicates to scientists that a source of carbon that was
> once alive but has been out of contact with the biosphere for millions
> of years has been opened up. AKA fossil fuels.
>
> The several Antarctic ice core studies the CO2 trapped in ice
> show around the time of the bottom of the last glaciation there was
> a rise in C13.
> Living things have a preference for absorbing C12 and let C13 slide right
> on by. So plant and animal waste is high in C13 but body tissues are
> low in C13. Animals and plants otherwise also have some C14 content
> unlike fossil fuels.
>
> So the carbon in the CO2 bubbles trapped 20,000 years ago show
> something alive had died. Something big. You dont have to think too
> much to thing about ocean plankton. It's massive.
> It's speculated some places that around the last ice age ended
> the trend was for planton to die off because it wasn't happy about
> the ice age. Colder waters, more clouds, less sunlight. Various reasons.
>
> So it's possible at least the last ice age started and ended because
> of changes in life in the oceans.
> If so, we can see this cycle only started up "recently" -- 2-3 Mya.
>
> One ref:
>
> Carbon isotope constraints on the deglacial CO_2 rise from ice cores
> 2012 May 11;336(6082):711-4.
> doi: 10.1126/science.1217161. Epub 2012 Mar 29.

A cemetary full of dead rotting Democrats will change that.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 10:22:53 +1100, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 13/01/2023 11:13 pm, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 14:21:52 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/01/2023 8:02 am, KKKernal Corn wrote:
>>
>> <b'rissed>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "As the planet circles the sun, three factors affect how much sunlight
>>>>>>>>>>>> it gets: its tilt (which ranges from 24.5 degrees to 22.1 degrees on a
>>>>>>>>>>>> 41,000-year cycle); its eccentricity (the changing shape of its orbit
>>>>>>>>>>>> around the sun, which ranges from a near-circle to an oval-like
>>>>>>>>>>>> shape); and its wobble (one full wobble, which looks like a slowly
>>>>>>>>>>>> spinning top, happens every 19,000 to 23,000 years), according to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Milankovitch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In 1976, a landmark paper in the journal Science provided evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>> that these three orbital parameters explained the planet's glacial
>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles, Sandstrom said."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Care to refute that with your own hypothesis?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> **I don't need to. The planet is warming. You can't have an ice age,
>>>>>>>>>>> when the planet is warming.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Until it starts to cool down again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **OK then. YOU tell us: When will the planet begin to cool.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL. Do you want an exact date and time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Yes. You claim that it will cool. Tell us when. More importantly: Tell
>>>>>>> us by what mechanism, the planet will begin cooling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about when global warming kills off 95% of the Earth's
>>>>>> population...who will keep producing the CO2? How about when the
>>>>>> orbit of the Earth gets to the point when the effect of the Sun is at
>>>>>> a minimum? How about an asteroid hit like the one that killed off the
>>>>>> dinosaurs? How about a nuclear winter? Any one of those is possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> **You STILL need to explain what mechanism will cause the planet to
>>>>> cool. You're the one claiming that the IPCC and Arrhenius are wrong.
>>>>
>>>> I've just GIVEN youi several scenarios that could cause the planet to
>>>> cool. You replied without even fucking READING them.
>>>
>>> **And YOU need explain:
>>>
>>> 1) If any of your suggestions will cause the warming to cease.
>>
>> Any one of them could.
>
>**How? When?

By causing cooling. I can't give you an exact date and time.

>>
>>> 2) When any of your suggestions will cause the warming to cease.
>>
>> Nobody knows the exact date.
>
>**Well, that's a big problem right there.

Not really. We'll all be long dead by then.

>>
>>> 3) If any of your suggestions will work, if the so-called 'tipping
>>> point' is reached.
>>
>> Did you not claim that similar increases in global temperatures were
>> reached in the past...and then decreased?
>
>**Nope.

Yes you did, you lying cunt.

> How did THAT happen?
>
>**How did what happen? Something that I never claimed?

You claimed that perhaps the flora absorbed the CO2. Do you want the
message ID where you wrote that?

>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which history tells us will
>>>>>>>>>> always happen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **No. The history tells us that it DID happen. History cannot tell us
>>>>>>>>> what WILL happen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> History is a good predictor of what will happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Wrong, moron. History is an excellent indicator of what DID happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, shithead. "Those who do not remember history are doomed to
>>>>>> repeat it" - George Santayana (1863-1912)
>>>>>
>>>>> **So? History is STILL an excellent indicator of what DID happen.
>>>>> History does not tell us what WILL happen.
>>>>
>>>> History has a nasty habit of repeating itself for those who do not
>>>> learn its lessons.
>>>
>>> **History is STILL an excellent indicator of what DID happen. History
>>> does not tell us what WILL happen. History tells us what MIGHT happen.
>>
>> The Earth has had five major Ice Ages, including the current one,
>> during the past 2.4 billion years. What makes you think there won't be
>> more?
>
>**There may be another. However, there is ZERO chance of an ice age
>whilst temperatures are rising.

Temperatures ALWAYS rise when an Ice Age is ending. The current
(Quaternary) Ice Age is no different.

>And, once more: History is STILL an excellent indicator of what DID
>happen. History does not tell us what WILL happen. History tells us what
>MIGHT happen.

So you keep saying. And yet 2.4 billion years of Ice Ages tell us
they DO keep happening.

>>>>>>>>> Surely you don't think temperatures will keep rising
>>>>>>>>>> ad infinitum?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **Of course not. I never claimed that they would. That they will rise
>>>>>>>>> further is certain though. Depending upon what humans decide to do, will
>>>>>>>>> determine how much further the temperatures will rise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If they're not going to keep rising indefinitely, then they will stop.
>>>>>>>> And what happens next? Do they stay the same or do they start to
>>>>>>>> fall?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **That would depend on a very wide range of factors. Temperatures may
>>>>>>> rise to equal the historical highs of around 10 ~ 14 degrees C above
>>>>>>> today's levels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So how did they DROP from those historical highs?
>>>>>
>>>>> **No idea.
>>>>
>>>> The first true thing you've even written.
>>>>
>>>>> Possibly the growth of flora, sucking up all that CO2. You
>>>>> know the stuff? CO2. The same stuff that YOU claim is not causing the
>>>>> planet to warm faster than at any time in the past million years or so.
>>>>
>>>> If it happened before, why can't it happen again?
>>>
>>> **Maybe, maybe not. No one knows. In any case, it took more than ONE
>>> HUNDRED MILLION years for the climate to reach the levels that suit
>>> humans. So, although we may cause those temperatures to reach those
>>> highs in a few hundred years, it may take hundreds of millions of years
>>> to reverse. Maybe never.
>>
>> As you say, no one knows. Not the IPCC, not any of its detractors.
>
>**Focus on my words. You have continually brought up the historical
>temperature records. Those records tell us that some, unknown, natural
>process brought temperatures down, but it took more than 100 million
>years to do so. We are pushing temperatures UP in a scat few hundred
>years. It is completely without precedent. The temperature rise is
>occurring AT LEAST 100 times more rapidly than at any time in history.
>We are burning fossil fuels at a rate such that we are burning fossil
>fuels that took a million years to form each and every year.

So what? It'll only take one dramatic natural (or perhaps unnatural)
process to bring them down again.

>>>>>>> No one knows. Maybe they'll go higher still. No one
>>>>>>> knows, as we are entering unknown levels of CO2 concentration. It is
>>>>>>> beyond dispute that temperatures will rise to around 1.5 degrees C above
>>>>>>> historical average levels and probably 2 degrees. If humans do nothing,
>>>>>>> then temperatures will rise further and, if the so-called 'tipping
>>>>>>> point' is reached (which most climate scientists believe is a thing),
>>>>>>> then nothing we can do will prevent a runaway warming. We are already
>>>>>>> witnessing the beginnings of that runaway effect, with the large
>>>>>>> releases of methane from Arctic regions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you admit, no one knows. Least of all you.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Actually, the climate scientists are reasonably certain of this.
>>>>> Remind us: What are your climate science credentials that we may trust
>>>>> your insane claims?
>>>>
>>>> You first, what are YOUR credentials?
>>>
>>> **Asked and answered.
>>>
>>> Now, what are your climate science credentials?
>>
>> Mine are just like yours.
>
>**Then what special expertise do YOU have to proclaim that the IPCC is
>"bullshit"? Why do you ignore all the planet's climate scientists? What
>special knowledge do you possess?

In alt.global-warming Rudy Canoza <notgenx34@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <tpse86$1d1d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
> Mr Posting Robot <MrPostingRobot@kymhorsell.com> wrote:
>> In alt.global-warming NoSpamAtAll <spamnot@not.home> wrote:
>> > In article <efi2shha279llfqghf9321aqqc21mah012@4ax.com>,
>> > sick old nazoid paedo Andrew 'Andrzej' Baron ("KKKernal Corn") wrote:
>> >> You suggested yourself that flora might absorb the CO2 when asked how
>> >> previously high temperatures on the planet cooled.
>> > And where will this flora come from, you poor old 'tard?
>> > And how much can it absorb, exactly?
>> The key is the isotopes.
>> In our modern atm we can see C13 and C14 decreasing.
>> That indicates to scientists that a source of carbon that was
>> once alive but has been out of contact with the biosphere for millions
>> of years has been opened up. AKA fossil fuels.
>> The several Antarctic ice core studies the CO2 trapped in ice
>> show around the time of the bottom of the last glaciation there was
>> a rise in C13.
>> Living things have a preference for absorbing C12 and let C13 slide right
>> on by. So plant and animal waste is high in C13 but body tissues are
>> low in C13. Animals and plants otherwise also have some C14 content
>> unlike fossil fuels.
>> So the carbon in the CO2 bubbles trapped 20,000 years ago show
>> something alive had died. Something big. You dont have to think too
>> much to thing about ocean plankton. It's massive.
>> It's speculated some places that around the last ice age ended
>> the trend was for planton to die off because it wasn't happy about
>> the ice age. Colder waters, more clouds, less sunlight. Various reasons.
>> So it's possible at least the last ice age started and ended because
>> of changes in life in the oceans.
>> If so, we can see this cycle only started up "recently" -- 2-3 Mya.
>> One ref:
>> Carbon isotope constraints on the deglacial CO_2 rise from ice cores
>> 2012 May 11;336(6082):711-4.
>> doi: 10.1126/science.1217161. Epub 2012 Mar 29.
> A cemetary full of dead rotting Democrats will change that.

But -- jeez -- you know how long doz guy lib! Clean air, water,
high ed, high househol incomes, public health systems that work.
Jeez. Youz kood be waiting cenchies!
Wa?
Oh.
Right. You odda guys will prob not be around then coz
of the bad air and water & suchike.

--
States like: %biden20 av lifex(y)
Wyoming 26.6 78.3
Oklahoma 32.05 77.7
South.Dakota 35.2 77.75
Kentucky 36.2 76
Utah 37.55 78.25
Louisiana 39.9 75.7
Montana 41.1333 78.2333
South.Carolina 43.1 77.65
Ohio 45.05 78.75
Texas 46.5 78.5
North.Carolina 48.25 78.6
Wisconsin 49.6667 78.5667
Michigan 50.6 78.2
Minnesota 52.4 81.1
Virginia 54.1 79
Colorado 55.4 80
Oregon 56.5 79.5
Washington 58 79.9
Rhode.Island 59.3 80.35
Hawaii 63.6 81.05
Massachusetts 65.6 80.5
DC 92.1 76.5

y = 0.0331221*x + 77.0017
T test: P(beta>0) = 0.922712
Rank test: P(not connected) = 1%

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 00:31:02 +0000, KKKernal Corn <vet@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 10:46:12 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:40:05 +0000, KKKernal Corn <vet@invalid.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Found another anus to suck, cunt?
>>>
>>>LOL
>>>
>>Danirl65/Fran/Ordog all go to bed together
>>Be careful about what you let them know about you.
>>They are all Stasi type scum
>
>My name is KKKernal Corn. There is nothing else to know.
>
Not me you should worry about
Fran found out Rod Speed's family and showed it to everyone in this
group.
The dumb3 (Danirl65/Fran/Ordog) goad one into giving links.
I are not anti-Vax but some Doctors are concerned, showing their
concern in New Zealand had them de registered, they demanded "links"
I happened to save on of these doctors video of his concerns which I
put on my Youtube site, was there for months but after the Dumb3 got
their link, Youtube took me channel down claiming it was anti-vax (it
wasn't) the channel is under a fake name not a "big thing" easy to
open another

I read were New Zealand can't supply eggs any more after forcing cage
egg farmers to close.
<https://thespinoff.co.nz/business/10-01-2023/eggsplainer-where-did-all-our-eggs-go?fbclid=IwAR0_1DmUMIiEjgeFDy6hEaY99XxiHfqK2fAqGR4Z6pmRH9i80wNRsBAX5Lc>
https://tinyurl.com/2mk5uoe3
Up and down the motu, supermarket egg shelves are empty, mostly empty,
or asking shoppers to please only take two.
End-of-driveway-honesty-box egg businesses are booming.
**********************
Living near a Egg Farm in 80's and had a short job with the Sydney
Water board Crown Street Sydney, I once a month bought the boys a five
dozen really fresh eggs (laid that day) from battery hens, they were
double/triple "yokers" which won't fit into egg cardboard packaging
and sold cheap. by the time grocery stores get them they are around
two weeks old.
They welcomed people to walk through , the hens were happy, really
super clean, each egg was put on a conveyor. washed, electronically
inspected, passed or rejected, sprayed brown and packed.

You gave out you once worked as a psychiatrist ad employer they will
check this out and perhaps dox you also. Be warned!
They are good little Stasi's
--
Petzl
Stalin once ripped all the feathers off a live chicken as a lesson to
his followers. He then set the chicken on the floor a short distance
away. The chicken was bloodied and suffering immensly, yet, when
Stalin began to toss some bits of wheat toward the chicken it followed
him around. He said to his followers This is how easy it is to govern
stupid people, they will follow you no matter how much pain you cause
them, as long as you throw them a little worthless treat once in a
while" , yet, when Stalin began to toss some bits of wheat toward the
chicken it followed him around. He said to his followers This is how
easy it is to govern stupid people, they will follow you no matter how
much pain you cause them, as long as you throw them a little worthless
treat once in a while"

Petz and his major "Village Idiocy" malfunction

> Ördög

/snip/

> Putin is what remains of the Stasi a arm of the KGB renamed FSB

BULLSHIT. Stasi had nothing to do with Russian internal politics, you idiot.

Putin is an authoritarian pro-capitalist oligarchy strongman suffering
from the typical megalomaniac dictator syndrome.

/snip whataboutist goalpost shifting crap that has bugger all to do with
the stated subject of this thread/

/NOTE:
All of Petz's completely idiotic and mostly plagiarised alt-right hate
propaganda sigs are consigned to cyber nirvana w/o reading/

--
Ördög
"A reminder for your mortification"

On 12/01/2023 12:47 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 11:30:52 UTC+11, Max wrote:
>> Re: the proposed 'voice to parliament' to be inserted into the constitution
>
> High time.
>>
>> The 'voice' should not be in the constitution.
>
> That would give a semblance of legality to the constitution from the original owners of the land.
>>
>> What if the High Court does something unexpected like Mabo - the case
>> that recognised native title - and give the 'voice' more powers than
>> people thought it would have?
>
> Good for Australia then. Australia will be Australia, not a wannabe US.
>>
>> Unelected judges should not have the power to give the 'voice' certain
>> powers. That should only be in the hands of the people, via the elected
>> members of parliament.
>
> Evidently a significant portion of the public wants to give a semblance of legality to the constitution from the original owners of the land.
>

Why can't it be that the land now known as Australia was conquered by
the British, just like lots of lands and countries have been conquered
throughout history?

I am not saying I agree with this idea, but just putting it out there
for discussion.

> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
>>
>> This is not a troll, but a genuine question for dicussion.

Petz's village idiocy malfunction continues unabated

/Autosnip all septic trash and home grown trolling retard inputs/
/Please note that idiotic xpossting to mental sewers newsgroups has been
terminated/

> Danirl65/Fran/Ordog all go to bed together

Well, rest assured that none of us three are so kinky, specially given
our ages.

> Be careful about what you let them know about you.

Luckily, I don't see the verbal vomit you are responding to Petz dear,
but given your sucking up conspiratorial tone it must be plain mental
refuse.

> They are all Stasi type scum

Hey, village idiot Petz, your brain (whatever part of your hind quarters
you are currently using as a replacement for the one that was ruined by
your Goon Bags addiction) has short circuited badly and thereafter stuck
on a never ending loop yapping about about an organisation that has been
defunct for decades.

You've fucked up, Petz dear, and that big time. As expected!

--
Ördög
"A reminder for your mortification"

Petz's latest "Village Idiocy" break mental down

/Autosnip all septic trash and home grown trolling retard inputs/
/Please note that idiotic xpossting to mental sewers newsgroups has been
terminated/

> Fran found out Rod Speed's family and showed it to everyone in this
> group.

So what! She only mentioned names on public record already. YAWN!

> The dumb3 (Danirl65/Fran/Ordog) goad one into giving links.

WTF?

When have I ever goaded into giving links?
And since when are World Wide Web links top secret????

Yes, when you make idiotic assertions you will be called on to prove
them with subject relevant links (which you than hardly ever do, because
you simply can't, given the nature of your cyber sewer sources).
All your supplied so called links are either totally irrelevant and
hardly better than trashy alt-right propaganda or simply do not say what
you think they do.

> I are not anti-Vax but some Doctors are concerned, showing their
> concern in New Zealand had them de registered, they demanded "links"
> I happened to save on of these doctors video of his concerns which I
> put on my Youtube site,

Bingo!

I have been wondering what is that endlessly regurgitated complaint
against Fran is all about for a while now. Sorry that I have not
realised what is at the core of your major fuck up, Petz dear!...

Isn't it obvious...you've got busted by YouTube on copy rights violation.
Namely you just can't pinch someone else's video and post it on your own
channel...YouTube is not Twitter nor some other typical social media
cesspit...but you are too stupid to realise it. Go and read the
"reasonable use" clauses applicable to your YouTube subscription.

> was there for months but after the Dumb3 got
> their link, Youtube took me channel down claiming it was anti-vax (it
> wasn't) the channel is under a fake name not a "big thing" easy to
> open another
>
If you post was deemed by the algorithms as antivaxx crap YouTube will
take it down, not a great secret as thank goodness YouTube has been
doing that for a while now.
But YouTube will take down you site for copy rights violations just the
same.

>
> I read were New Zealand can't supply eggs any more after forcing cage
> egg farmers to close.

WTF has that to do with anything...you scatter brain, Petz dear!
/snip whataboutist crap/
>
> You gave out you once worked as a psychiatrist ad employer they will
> check this out and perhaps dox you also. Be warned!
> They are good little Stasi's
>
You should stop binging on Goon Bags, Petz dear, and take your anti
psychotic meds as prescribed, otherwise your unchecked paranoid episodes
get completely out of control.

/NOTE:
All of Petz's completely idiotic and mostly plagiarised alt-right hate
propaganda sigs are consigned to cyber nirvana w/o reading/

--
Ördög
"A reminder for your mortification"

On Saturday, 14 January 2023 at 12:40:16 UTC+11, Max wrote:
> On 12/01/2023 12:47 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 11:30:52 UTC+11, Max wrote:
> >> Re: the proposed 'voice to parliament' to be inserted into the constitution
> >
> > High time.
> >>
> >> The 'voice' should not be in the constitution.
> >
> > That would give a semblance of legality to the constitution from the original owners of the land.
> >>
> >> What if the High Court does something unexpected like Mabo - the case
> >> that recognised native title - and give the 'voice' more powers than
> >> people thought it would have?
> >
> > Good for Australia then. Australia will be Australia, not a wannabe US.
> >>
> >> Unelected judges should not have the power to give the 'voice' certain
> >> powers. That should only be in the hands of the people, via the elected
> >> members of parliament.
> >
> > Evidently a significant portion of the public wants to give a semblance of legality to the constitution from the original owners of the land.
> >
> Why can't it be that the land now known as Australia was conquered by
> the British, just like lots of lands and countries have been conquered
> throughout history?

Australia was not conquered. It was grabbed by deceit and unscrupulousness, thus showing nothing about the superiority of any conqueror.
>
> I am not saying I agree with this idea, but just putting it out there
> for discussion.
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee
> >>
> >> This is not a troll, but a genuine question for dicussion.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 19:06:09 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, 14 January 2023 at 12:40:16 UTC+11, Max wrote:
>> On 12/01/2023 12:47 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 11:30:52 UTC+11, Max wrote:
>> >> Re: the proposed 'voice to parliament' to be inserted into the constitution
>> >
>> > High time.
>> >>
>> >> The 'voice' should not be in the constitution.
>> >
>> > That would give a semblance of legality to the constitution from the original owners of the land.
>> >>
>> >> What if the High Court does something unexpected like Mabo - the case
>> >> that recognised native title - and give the 'voice' more powers than
>> >> people thought it would have?
>> >
>> > Good for Australia then. Australia will be Australia, not a wannabe US.
>> >>
>> >> Unelected judges should not have the power to give the 'voice' certain
>> >> powers. That should only be in the hands of the people, via the elected
>> >> members of parliament.
>> >
>> > Evidently a significant portion of the public wants to give a semblance of legality to the constitution from the original owners of the land.
>> >
>> Why can't it be that the land now known as Australia was conquered by
>> the British, just like lots of lands and countries have been conquered
>> throughout history?
>
>Australia was not conquered.
>It was grabbed by deceit and unscrupulousness,
>thus showing nothing about the superiority of any conqueror.
>
You think that Spain or France would of been a better choice?
Because if not for the British that would of happened.
>>
>> I am not saying I agree with this idea, but just putting it out there
>> for discussion.
>> > Cheers,
>> > Arindam Banerjee
>> >>
>> >> This is not a troll, but a genuine question for dicussion.
--
Petzl
As Winston Churchill once said;

The Monarchy is important,
not for the power it wields,
but for the power it denies others.

"Dieu et mon droit" God is my legal right
<https://www.yourdictionary.com/droit>

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 09:37:40 +1100, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

<your pathetic broken record shit flushed where it belongs>

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:37:55 PM UTC+11, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil wrote:
remove stasi propaganda.
>
https://youtu.be/SYLccpkiThI
Soviet Psychological Torture Methods / True Story / Docudrama Video
--
Petzl
**On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord, one thousand, eight hundred and eighty-three.
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died**

They just weren’t doing Communism properly,
Say all of today’s Communists?

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money.

All governments lie about some things, but Putin's totalitarian
governments lie about everything.

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 12:40:15 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:

> On 12/01/2023 12:47 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 11:30:52 UTC+11, Max wrote:
>>> Re: the proposed 'voice to parliament' to be inserted into the
>>> constitution
>> High time.
>>>
>>> The 'voice' should not be in the constitution.
>> That would give a semblance of legality to the constitution from the
>> original owners of the land.
>>>
>>> What if the High Court does something unexpected like Mabo - the case
>>> that recognised native title - and give the 'voice' more powers than
>>> people thought it would have?
>> Good for Australia then. Australia will be Australia, not a wannabe US.
>>>
>>> Unelected judges should not have the power to give the 'voice' certain
>>> powers. That should only be in the hands of the people, via the elected
>>> members of parliament.
>> Evidently a significant portion of the public wants to give a
>> semblance of legality to the constitution from the original owners of
>> the land.

Hunter gatherers down own land.

> Why can't it be that the land now known as Australia was conquered by
> the British,

Hardly conquered, just occupied, just like the boongs did before them.

> just like lots of lands and countries have been conquered throughout
> history?

Far more were just occupied.

> I am not saying I agree with this idea, but just putting it out there
> for discussion.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 14:06:09 +1100, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 14 January 2023 at 12:40:16 UTC+11, Max wrote:
>> On 12/01/2023 12:47 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 11:30:52 UTC+11, Max wrote:
>> >> Re: the proposed 'voice to parliament' to be inserted into the
>> constitution
>> >
>> > High time.
>> >>
>> >> The 'voice' should not be in the constitution.
>> >
>> > That would give a semblance of legality to the constitution from the
>> original owners of the land.
>> >>
>> >> What if the High Court does something unexpected like Mabo - the case
>> >> that recognised native title - and give the 'voice' more powers than
>> >> people thought it would have?
>> >
>> > Good for Australia then. Australia will be Australia, not a wannabe
>> US.
>> >>
>> >> Unelected judges should not have the power to give the 'voice'
>> certain
>> >> powers. That should only be in the hands of the people, via the
>> elected
>> >> members of parliament.
>> >
>> > Evidently a significant portion of the public wants to give a
>> semblance of legality to the constitution from the original owners of
>> the land.

No hunter gatherers ever owned any land.

>> Why can't it be that the land now known as Australia was conquered by
>> the British, just like lots of lands and countries have been conquered
>> throughout history?

> Australia was not conquered.

Correct, occupied at most.

> It was grabbed by deceit and unscrupulousness,

More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

No deceit involved at all.

> thus showing nothing about the superiority of any conqueror.

Pathetic.

>> I am not saying I agree with this idea, but just putting it out there
>> for discussion.
>> > Cheers,
>> > Arindam Banerjee
>> >>
>> >> This is not a troll, but a genuine question for dicussion.

Petz, reached level GoonCon 4

> Ördög

> stasi propaganda.

There is NO Stasi anywhere, outside you fried brain, Petz dear!

> Soviet

And there is no "soviet" either any more!

Stop the binge drinking! If you did you'd realised long ego that we have
left the 20th century already decades behind in the past.
WTF are you doing here in a *NEWSGROUP* if you can't even move on with
time at all?

/NOTE:
All of Petz's completely idiotic and mostly plagiarised alt-right hate
propaganda sigs are consigned to cyber nirvana w/o reading/

:-P :-P :-P

--
Ördög
"A reminder for your mortification"

On Saturday, 14 January 2023 at 14:21:17 UTC+11, petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 19:06:09 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, 14 January 2023 at 12:40:16 UTC+11, Max wrote:
> >> On 12/01/2023 12:47 am, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, 3 January 2023 at 11:30:52 UTC+11, Max wrote:
> >> >> Re: the proposed 'voice to parliament' to be inserted into the constitution
> >> >
> >> > High time.
> >> >>
> >> >> The 'voice' should not be in the constitution.
> >> >
> >> > That would give a semblance of legality to the constitution from the original owners of the land.
> >> >>
> >> >> What if the High Court does something unexpected like Mabo - the case
> >> >> that recognised native title - and give the 'voice' more powers than
> >> >> people thought it would have?
> >> >
> >> > Good for Australia then. Australia will be Australia, not a wannabe US.
> >> >>
> >> >> Unelected judges should not have the power to give the 'voice' certain
> >> >> powers. That should only be in the hands of the people, via the elected
> >> >> members of parliament.
> >> >
> >> > Evidently a significant portion of the public wants to give a semblance of legality to the constitution from the original owners of the land.
> >> >
> >> Why can't it be that the land now known as Australia was conquered by
> >> the British, just like lots of lands and countries have been conquered
> >> throughout history?
> >
> >Australia was not conquered.
> >It was grabbed by deceit and unscrupulousness,
> >thus showing nothing about the superiority of any conqueror.
> >
> You think that Spain or France would of been a better choice?
> Because if not for the British that would of happened.

Spain was not interested, nor the Dutch.
Yes the French occupation was a possibility.
After my cruise to New Caledonia, it seems to me that the natives are doing well there, better than the original inhabitants of Australia.
In Bruny Island, at the Bligh museum, there were notes from the French explorers that wrote positively about the locals.
So France would have been much better, yes, for the aboriginals.
Who could be worse?
Just look at the way they treat me here. One look, and I am profiled for non-existence.
> >>
> >> I am not saying I agree with this idea, but just putting it out there
> >> for discussion.
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Arindam Banerjee
> >> >>
> >> >> This is not a troll, but a genuine question for dicussion.
> --
> Petzl
> As Winston Churchill once said;
>
> The Monarchy is important,
> not for the power it wields,
> but for the power it denies others.
>
> "Dieu et mon droit" God is my legal right
> <https://www.yourdictionary.com/droit>