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* UMRA BookgroupMike Ruddock
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| |   || ||| ||        `- Re: UMRA BookgroupMike McMillan
| |   || ||| |`- Re: UMRA BookgroupBrritSki
| |   || ||| `* Re: UMRA BookgroupKate B
| |   || |||  +- Re: UMRA BookgroupJohn Ashby
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| |   || |+- Re: UMRA BookgroupJoe Kerr
| |   || |`- Re: UMRA BookgroupTony Smith
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| |   || `- Re: UMRA BookgroupTony Smith
| |   |`- Re: UMRA BookgroupSam Plusnet
| |   +- Re: UMRA BookgroupLinda Fox
| |   +* Re: UMRA BookgroupJenny M Benson
| |   |`- Re: UMRA BookgroupVicky
| |   `* Re: UMRA BookgroupHellerat
| |    `* Re: UMRA BookgroupSam Plusnet
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| |     |`* Re: UMRA BookgroupJ. P. Gilliver (John)
| |     | `* Re: UMRA BookgroupJoe Kerr
| |     |  `* Re: UMRA BookgroupJ. P. Gilliver (John)
| |     |   `* Re: UMRA BookgroupMike McMillan
| |     |    `* Re: UMRA BookgroupNick Odell
| |     |     +* Re: UMRA Bookgroupkrw
| |     |     |+* Re: UMRA BookgroupChris J Dixon
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| |     |     || `* Re: UMRA BookgroupJohn Ashby
| |     |     ||  `- Re: UMRA BookgroupMike McMillan
| |     |     |`* Re: UMRA BookgroupMike McMillan
| |     |     | `- Re: UMRA BookgroupSam Plusnet
| |     |     `* Re: UMRA BookgroupJohn Ashby
| |     |      `- Re: UMRA BookgroupNick Odell
| |     +* Re: UMRA BookgroupSid Nuncius
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| |     || |`* ageing (was: Re: UMRA Bookgroup)J. P. Gilliver (John)
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| |     || |      +* Re: ageing (was: Re: UMRA Bookgroup)Mike McMillan
| |     || |      |`- Re: ageing (was: Re: UMRA Bookgroup)Sid Nuncius
| |     || |      +* Re: ageing (was: Re: UMRA Bookgroup)Penny
| |     || |      |`- Re: ageing (was: Re: UMRA Bookgroup)Mike Ruddock
| |     || |      `* Re: ageing (was: Re: UMRA Bookgroup)BrritSki
| |     || |       `- Re: ageing (was: Re: UMRA Bookgroup)Mike McMillan
| |     || `* Re: UMRA BookgroupChris J Dixon
| |     ||  `- Re: UMRA Bookgroupkrw
| |     |`* Re: UMRA BookgroupJ. P. Gilliver (John)
| |     | `* Re: UMRA BookgroupSid Nuncius
| |     |  `- Re: UMRA BookgroupJ. P. Gilliver (John)
| |     `- Re: UMRA BookgroupKate B
| +* Re: UMRA BookgroupPenny
| |+- Re: UMRA BookgroupMike McMillan
| |`* Re: UMRA BookgroupJ. P. Gilliver (John)
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| `* Re: UMRA BookgroupKate B
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From: krw...@whitnet.uk (krw)
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Subject: Re: UMRA Bookgroup
Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 13:13:50 +0100
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 by: krw - Mon, 30 May 2022 12:13 UTC

On 30.5.22 12:02, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> krw wrote:
>
>> I think it was 7/6 and they stopped it when they realised that much of
>> the money was being paid to the Post Office to issue them.
>
> ISTR that it was said that dog licences cost more in
> administration than they brought in.
>
> Chris

Come to think of it dog licences were 7/6. My apologies for confusing a
dog and a wireless.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

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 by: Nick Odell - Mon, 30 May 2022 12:20 UTC

On Mon, 30 May 2022 12:26:45 +0100, John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 30/05/2022 11:12, Nick Odell wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 07:17:00 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 at 13:14:43, Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote
>>>> (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>>>>> On 29/05/2022 01:11, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>>>>> Not that any UMRAt would ever be guilty of it, but the "the book is
>>>>>> infinitely better than the film" view _often_ has more than a whiff of
>>>>>> snobbishness about it - rather like (remember this one?) "Oh yes - we
>>>>>> have a television set; it is mostly for the servants".
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't find that too surprising. When I got my first TV permit[1] not
>>>>> all that long ago[2] I carefully read it from start to finish to see
>>>>> exactly what was covered. It said that the permit[3] covered my family
>>>>> and domestic servants to watch and record TV and radio programmes.
>>>>> There was no mention of friends, relatives or neighbours.
>>>> []
>>>> I miss the TV tax receipt of old: they've "dumbed it down" now. It's not
>>>> _that_ long ago (well, it probably is, but it doesn't seem so to me)
>>>> that (a) it talked about "wireless telegraphy receiving apparatus" (or
>>>> some similar phrase), and (b) told me it was only for receiving certain
>>>> signals, and if I received anything else, I was to inform the secretary
>>>> of state and no-one else, or something like that. [And no, both (a) and
>>>> (b) were definitely for TV - I don't remember ever reading a wireless
>>>> licence.]
>>>
>>> I can recall going to our local P.O. to purchase a wireless licence (10/6d.
>>> Seems to ring a bell) though I can’t recall ever reading the small print…
>>
>> With that price ticket on it, you're sure you bought the item at the
>> Post Office, not from the Haberdasher?
>>
>> Nick
>
>Milliner, Shirley.
>
I think you could be right.

I was thinking of the old meaning of the word but I suspect that by
the time of Alice, the modern meaning was probably current.

Nick

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Mon, 30 May 2022 13:11 UTC

On Mon, 30 May 2022 at 07:20:31, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>On 29/05/2022 21:24, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>
>> Then there are the cases (I think we discussed this recently) where
>>alternative words stick in your mind - especially comic ones: Ill Wind
>>(Mozart HC1),
>
>Er...I think it's the rondo finale of Mozart's 4th Horn concerto, not
>his first.
>
>DINTAFPOU?
>
Not at all, of course. My bad for not checking. It _is_ Elgar's PCM1
that' LOH&G, though - although I do quite like PCM4 too. (But don't know
any words to that.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Mon, 30 May 2022 13:15 UTC

On Mon, 30 May 2022 at 09:29:05, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote (my
responses usually FOLLOW):
>On 30.5.22 09:21, steve hague wrote:
>> The Band Played Waltzing Matilda by her about fifty years ago
>
>I am really hoping it was not quite that long ago, although I see she
>recorded it in 1976 which would probably have been my first hearing of
>it.
>
>Suddenly feel much older.
>
I'm finding a lot of things that I remember, are now fifty years ago (or
vice versa). Rather than feeling older as a bad thing, I'm rather
enjoying it this time - sort of the feeling of getting into a club to
which I don't really feel entitled. (Probably because - touch wood - I'm
in reasonable health, so don't _feel_ old.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
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 by: John Ashby - Mon, 30 May 2022 13:44 UTC

On 30/05/2022 13:13, krw wrote:
> On 30.5.22 12:02, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>> krw wrote:
>>
>>> I think it was 7/6 and they stopped it when they realised that much of
>>> the money was being paid to the Post Office to issue them.
>>
>> ISTR that it was said that dog licences cost more in
>> administration than they brought in.
>>
>> Chris
>
> Come to think of it dog licences were 7/6.  My apologies for confusing a
> dog and a wireless.
>

On the Internet nobody knows you're a crystal set.

john

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 by: Mike McMillan - Mon, 30 May 2022 13:46 UTC

John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 30/05/2022 13:13, krw wrote:
>> On 30.5.22 12:02, Chris J Dixon wrote:
>>> krw wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it was 7/6 and they stopped it when they realised that much of
>>>> the money was being paid to the Post Office to issue them.
>>>
>>> ISTR that it was said that dog licences cost more in
>>> administration than they brought in.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> Come to think of it dog licences were 7/6.  My apologies for confusing a
>> dog and a wireless.
>>
>
> On the Internet nobody knows you're a crystal set.
>
> john
>

Purrrrrrrrrrrr

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Mon, 30 May 2022 18:41 UTC

On 30-May-22 12:03, Mike McMillan wrote:
> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>> On 30.5.22 11:12, Nick Odell wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 07:17:00 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
>>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 29 May 2022 at 13:14:43, Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote
>>>>> (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>>>>>> On 29/05/2022 01:11, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>>>>>> Not that any UMRAt would ever be guilty of it, but the "the book is
>>>>>>> infinitely better than the film" view _often_ has more than a whiff of
>>>>>>> snobbishness about it - rather like (remember this one?) "Oh yes - we
>>>>>>> have a television set; it is mostly for the servants".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't find that too surprising. When I got my first TV permit[1] not
>>>>>> all that long ago[2] I carefully read it from start to finish to see
>>>>>> exactly what was covered. It said that the permit[3] covered my family
>>>>>> and domestic servants to watch and record TV and radio programmes.
>>>>>> There was no mention of friends, relatives or neighbours.
>>>>> []
>>>>> I miss the TV tax receipt of old: they've "dumbed it down" now. It's not
>>>>> _that_ long ago (well, it probably is, but it doesn't seem so to me)
>>>>> that (a) it talked about "wireless telegraphy receiving apparatus" (or
>>>>> some similar phrase), and (b) told me it was only for receiving certain
>>>>> signals, and if I received anything else, I was to inform the secretary
>>>>> of state and no-one else, or something like that. [And no, both (a) and
>>>>> (b) were definitely for TV - I don't remember ever reading a wireless
>>>>> licence.]
>>>>
>>>> I can recall going to our local P.O. to purchase a wireless licence (10/6d.
>>>> Seems to ring a bell) though I can’t recall ever reading the small print…
>>>
>>> With that price ticket on it, you're sure you bought the item at the
>>> Post Office, not from the Haberdasher?
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>> I think it was 7/6 and they stopped it when they realised that much of
>> the money was being paid to the Post Office to issue them.
>>
>
> The licence cost 10 shillings in 1923. [
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom ]
>
The TV licence (as a separate entity from the radio licence) was first
introduced, in 1946, @ £2.
In 1954, it increased by 50% in a single jump!

--
Sam Plusnet

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From: spa...@labyrinth.freeuk.com (Penny)
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Subject: Re: ageing (was: Re: UMRA Bookgroup)
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 by: Penny - Mon, 30 May 2022 20:39 UTC

On Mon, 30 May 2022 14:15:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> scrawled in the dust...

>On Mon, 30 May 2022 at 09:29:05, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote (my
>responses usually FOLLOW):
>>On 30.5.22 09:21, steve hague wrote:
>>> The Band Played Waltzing Matilda by her about fifty years ago
>>
>>I am really hoping it was not quite that long ago, although I see she
>>recorded it in 1976 which would probably have been my first hearing of
>>it.
>>
>>Suddenly feel much older.
>>
>I'm finding a lot of things that I remember, are now fifty years ago (or
>vice versa). Rather than feeling older as a bad thing, I'm rather
>enjoying it this time - sort of the feeling of getting into a club to
>which I don't really feel entitled. (Probably because - touch wood - I'm
>in reasonable health, so don't _feel_ old.)

I'm feeling very old at the moment.
Memory is a weird thing, never improved by sleeping poorly, as I have been
lately (I'm blaming indigestion).

Yesterday, when I solved Wordle, it brought half-way into my mind a couple
of songs*. Later I discovered a number of people with whom I share Wordle
scores, said they had never come across the word at all, so I assume they
are younger than I am.

* in that I knew I had met it in at least 2 American pop songs, probably in
the '60s, but I could not recall either of the songs, just a few words of
one of them. lyrics.com helped me find them later, plus at least one more
I vaguely recalled. I also remembered misunderstanding/hearing one of the
lyrics.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: Nick Odell - Mon, 30 May 2022 20:53 UTC

On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:39:48 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 May 2022 14:15:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
><G6JPG@255soft.uk> scrawled in the dust...
>
>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 at 09:29:05, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote (my
>>responses usually FOLLOW):
>>>On 30.5.22 09:21, steve hague wrote:
>>>> The Band Played Waltzing Matilda by her about fifty years ago
>>>
>>>I am really hoping it was not quite that long ago, although I see she
>>>recorded it in 1976 which would probably have been my first hearing of
>>>it.
>>>
>>>Suddenly feel much older.
>>>
>>I'm finding a lot of things that I remember, are now fifty years ago (or
>>vice versa). Rather than feeling older as a bad thing, I'm rather
>>enjoying it this time - sort of the feeling of getting into a club to
>>which I don't really feel entitled. (Probably because - touch wood - I'm
>>in reasonable health, so don't _feel_ old.)
>
>I'm feeling very old at the moment.
>Memory is a weird thing, never improved by sleeping poorly, as I have been
>lately (I'm blaming indigestion).
>
>Yesterday, when I solved Wordle, it brought half-way into my mind a couple
>of songs*. Later I discovered a number of people with whom I share Wordle
>scores, said they had never come across the word at all, so I assume they
>are younger than I am.
>
>* in that I knew I had met it in at least 2 American pop songs, probably in
>the '60s, but I could not recall either of the songs, just a few words of
>one of them. lyrics.com helped me find them later, plus at least one more
>I vaguely recalled. I also remembered misunderstanding/hearing one of the
>lyrics.

So what was the Wordle word? I wonder if the word association would
work for me or others?

Nick

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 by: Vicky - Mon, 30 May 2022 21:49 UTC

On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:42 +0100, Nick Odell
<nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:39:48 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 14:15:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 at 09:29:05, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote (my
>>>responses usually FOLLOW):
>>>>On 30.5.22 09:21, steve hague wrote:
>>>>> The Band Played Waltzing Matilda by her about fifty years ago
>>>>
>>>>I am really hoping it was not quite that long ago, although I see she
>>>>recorded it in 1976 which would probably have been my first hearing of
>>>>it.
>>>>
>>>>Suddenly feel much older.
>>>>
>>>I'm finding a lot of things that I remember, are now fifty years ago (or
>>>vice versa). Rather than feeling older as a bad thing, I'm rather
>>>enjoying it this time - sort of the feeling of getting into a club to
>>>which I don't really feel entitled. (Probably because - touch wood - I'm
>>>in reasonable health, so don't _feel_ old.)
>>
>>I'm feeling very old at the moment.
>>Memory is a weird thing, never improved by sleeping poorly, as I have been
>>lately (I'm blaming indigestion).
>>
>>Yesterday, when I solved Wordle, it brought half-way into my mind a couple
>>of songs*. Later I discovered a number of people with whom I share Wordle
>>scores, said they had never come across the word at all, so I assume they
>>are younger than I am.
>>
>>* in that I knew I had met it in at least 2 American pop songs, probably in
>>the '60s, but I could not recall either of the songs, just a few words of
>>one of them. lyrics.com helped me find them later, plus at least one more
>>I vaguely recalled. I also remembered misunderstanding/hearing one of the
>>lyrics.
>
>So what was the Wordle word? I wonder if the word association would
>work for me or others?
>
>Nick
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 by: Penny - Mon, 30 May 2022 22:41 UTC

On Mon, 30 May 2022 22:49:31 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> scrawled
in the dust...

>On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:42 +0100, Nick Odell
><nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:39:48 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 14:15:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
>>><G6JPG@255soft.uk> scrawled in the dust...
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 30 May 2022 at 09:29:05, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote (my
>>>>responses usually FOLLOW):
>>>>>On 30.5.22 09:21, steve hague wrote:
>>>>>> The Band Played Waltzing Matilda by her about fifty years ago
>>>>>
>>>>>I am really hoping it was not quite that long ago, although I see she
>>>>>recorded it in 1976 which would probably have been my first hearing of
>>>>>it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Suddenly feel much older.
>>>>>
>>>>I'm finding a lot of things that I remember, are now fifty years ago (or
>>>>vice versa). Rather than feeling older as a bad thing, I'm rather
>>>>enjoying it this time - sort of the feeling of getting into a club to
>>>>which I don't really feel entitled. (Probably because - touch wood - I'm
>>>>in reasonable health, so don't _feel_ old.)
>>>
>>>I'm feeling very old at the moment.
>>>Memory is a weird thing, never improved by sleeping poorly, as I have been
>>>lately (I'm blaming indigestion).
>>>
>>>Yesterday, when I solved Wordle, it brought half-way into my mind a couple
>>>of songs*. Later I discovered a number of people with whom I share Wordle
>>>scores, said they had never come across the word at all, so I assume they
>>>are younger than I am.
>>>
>>>* in that I knew I had met it in at least 2 American pop songs, probably in
>>>the '60s, but I could not recall either of the songs, just a few words of
>>>one of them. lyrics.com helped me find them later, plus at least one more
>>>I vaguely recalled. I also remembered misunderstanding/hearing one of the
>>>lyrics.
>>
>>So what was the Wordle word? I wonder if the word association would
>>work for me or others?
>>
>>Nick
>s
>
>p
>
>o
>
>i
>
>l
>
>e
>
>r
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>v
>v
>v
>v
>v
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No, Vikki, the previous day.

Bayou
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: Sid Nuncius - Tue, 31 May 2022 06:00 UTC

On 30/05/2022 23:41, Penny wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:42 +0100, Nick Odell
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:39:48 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>

>>>> Yesterday, when I solved Wordle, it brought half-way into my mind a couple
>>>> of songs*. Later I discovered a number of people with whom I share Wordle
>>>> scores, said they had never come across the word at all, so I assume they
>>>> are younger than I am.
>>>>
>>>> * in that I knew I had met it in at least 2 American pop songs, probably in
>>>> the '60s, but I could not recall either of the songs, just a few words of
>>>> one of them. lyrics.com helped me find them later, plus at least one more
>>>> I vaguely recalled. I also remembered misunderstanding/hearing one of the
>>>> lyrics.
>>>
>>> So what was the Wordle word? I wonder if the word association would
>>> work for me or others?

> Bayou

Works for me.
Blue Bayou - Roy Orbison
Jambalaya - Hank Williams (although I probably first heard it by The
Carpenters)
Born On The Bayou - Creedence Clearwater Revival...and I suspect there
are others which will come bck to me.

Levee is another evocative word which I've only really met in pop
songs[1], and which brings a few lyrics back strongly and instantly.

[1]At least until 2005, Hurricane Katrina and the New Orleans floods,
when it was used in a few news reports.
--
Sid
(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

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Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 30/05/2022 23:41, Penny wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:42 +0100, Nick Odell
>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:39:48 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>
>>>>> Yesterday, when I solved Wordle, it brought half-way into my mind a couple
>>>>> of songs*. Later I discovered a number of people with whom I share Wordle
>>>>> scores, said they had never come across the word at all, so I assume they
>>>>> are younger than I am.
>>>>>
>>>>> * in that I knew I had met it in at least 2 American pop songs, probably in
>>>>> the '60s, but I could not recall either of the songs, just a few words of
>>>>> one of them. lyrics.com helped me find them later, plus at least one more
>>>>> I vaguely recalled. I also remembered misunderstanding/hearing one of the
>>>>> lyrics.
>>>>
>>>> So what was the Wordle word? I wonder if the word association would
>>>> work for me or others?
>
>> Bayou
>
> Works for me.
> Blue Bayou - Roy Orbison
> Jambalaya - Hank Williams (although I probably first heard it by The
> Carpenters)
> Born On The Bayou - Creedence Clearwater Revival...and I suspect there
> are others which will come bck to me.
>
> Levee is another evocative word which I've only really met in pop
> songs[1], and which brings a few lyrics back strongly and instantly.
>
>
> [1]At least until 2005, Hurricane Katrina and the New Orleans floods,
> when it was used in a few news reports.

The word became so popular, they considered putting a levy on its’ use.
;-)))

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: Penny - Tue, 31 May 2022 08:55 UTC

On Tue, 31 May 2022 07:00:55 +0100, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>On 30/05/2022 23:41, Penny wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:42 +0100, Nick Odell
>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:39:48 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>
>>>>> Yesterday, when I solved Wordle, it brought half-way into my mind a couple
>>>>> of songs*. Later I discovered a number of people with whom I share Wordle
>>>>> scores, said they had never come across the word at all, so I assume they
>>>>> are younger than I am.
>>>>>
>>>>> * in that I knew I had met it in at least 2 American pop songs, probably in
>>>>> the '60s, but I could not recall either of the songs, just a few words of
>>>>> one of them. lyrics.com helped me find them later, plus at least one more
>>>>> I vaguely recalled. I also remembered misunderstanding/hearing one of the
>>>>> lyrics.
>>>>
>>>> So what was the Wordle word? I wonder if the word association would
>>>> work for me or others?
>
>> Bayou
>
>Works for me.
>Blue Bayou - Roy Orbison

That was my mondegreen - a weird usage of 'blue by you' which, now I come
to think of it, may have been deliberate.

>Jambalaya - Hank Williams (although I probably first heard it by The
>Carpenters)

I'm not sure now whose version I first heard. I did watch a film with/about
Hank Williams as a B movie in my teens, which impressed me greatly.

Lots of people have recorded it. It's a very odd song, including English,
French and Spanish, much of which is mangled in various transcripts of the
lyrics.

>Born On The Bayou - Creedence Clearwater Revival...and I suspect there
>are others which will come bck to me.

lyrics.com found "1,271 lyrics, 22 artists and 50 albums matching 'bayou'"
and "109 lyrics, 23 artists and 50 albums matching 'Jambalaya bayou'"

>Levee is another evocative word which I've only really met in pop
>songs[1], and which brings a few lyrics back strongly and instantly.

Oh yes, but the context of going to the levee and the levee was dry helped
in understanding.

>[1]At least until 2005, Hurricane Katrina and the New Orleans floods,
>when it was used in a few news reports.

Doing the NYT mini crossword daily is, erm, educational, at least in the US
culture they expect their readers to know.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: BrritSki - Tue, 31 May 2022 09:01 UTC

On 31/05/2022 07:00, Sid Nuncius wrote:
> On 30/05/2022 23:41, Penny wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:42 +0100, Nick Odell
>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:39:48 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>
>>>>> Yesterday, when I solved Wordle, it brought half-way into my mind a
>>>>> couple
>>>>> of songs*. Later I discovered a number of people with whom I share
>>>>> Wordle
>>>>> scores, said they had never come across the word at all, so I
>>>>> assume they
>>>>> are younger than I am.
>>>>>
>>>>> * in that I knew I had met it in at least 2 American pop songs,
>>>>> probably in
>>>>> the '60s, but I could not recall either of the songs, just a few
>>>>> words of
>>>>> one of them.  lyrics.com helped me find them later, plus at least
>>>>> one more
>>>>> I vaguely recalled. I also remembered misunderstanding/hearing one
>>>>> of the
>>>>> lyrics.
>>>>
>>>> So what was the Wordle word? I wonder if the word association would
>>>> work for me or others?
>
>> Bayou
>
> Works for me.
> Blue Bayou - Roy Orbison
> Jambalaya - Hank Williams (although I probably first heard it by The
> Carpenters)
> Born On The Bayou - Creedence Clearwater Revival...and I suspect there
> are others which will come bck to me.

And there was Cat Bayou...

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 by: Sid Nuncius - Tue, 31 May 2022 09:14 UTC

On 31/05/2022 08:10, Mike McMillan wrote:
> Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>> Levee is another evocative word which I've only really met in pop
>> songs[1], and which brings a few lyrics back strongly and instantly.
>>
>> [1]At least until 2005, Hurricane Katrina and the New Orleans floods,
>> when it was used in a few news reports.
>
> The word became so popular, they considered putting a levy on its’ use.
> ;-)))

I think the conservative Mississippi politician who proposed that was
known as a Leveetory.

--
Sid
(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

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 by: Mike McMillan - Tue, 31 May 2022 09:49 UTC

BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEAWAY@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 31/05/2022 07:00, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>> On 30/05/2022 23:41, Penny wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:42 +0100, Nick Odell
>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:39:48 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>>
>>>>>> Yesterday, when I solved Wordle, it brought half-way into my mind a
>>>>>> couple
>>>>>> of songs*. Later I discovered a number of people with whom I share
>>>>>> Wordle
>>>>>> scores, said they had never come across the word at all, so I
>>>>>> assume they
>>>>>> are younger than I am.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * in that I knew I had met it in at least 2 American pop songs,
>>>>>> probably in
>>>>>> the '60s, but I could not recall either of the songs, just a few
>>>>>> words of
>>>>>> one of them.  lyrics.com helped me find them later, plus at least
>>>>>> one more
>>>>>> I vaguely recalled. I also remembered misunderstanding/hearing one
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> lyrics.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what was the Wordle word? I wonder if the word association would
>>>>> work for me or others?
>>
>>> Bayou
>>
>> Works for me.
>> Blue Bayou - Roy Orbison
>> Jambalaya - Hank Williams (although I probably first heard it by The
>> Carpenters)
>> Born On The Bayou - Creedence Clearwater Revival...and I suspect there
>> are others which will come bck to me.
>
> And there was Cat Bayou...
>
>
>

I found they usually prefer to sit on my lap or shoulder…

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 by: Mike Ruddock - Tue, 31 May 2022 18:06 UTC

On 31/05/2022 09:55, Penny wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2022 07:00:55 +0100, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> On 30/05/2022 23:41, Penny wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:53:42 +0100, Nick Odell
>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2022 21:39:48 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>>
>>>>>> Yesterday, when I solved Wordle, it brought half-way into my mind a couple
>>>>>> of songs*. Later I discovered a number of people with whom I share Wordle
>>>>>> scores, said they had never come across the word at all, so I assume they
>>>>>> are younger than I am.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * in that I knew I had met it in at least 2 American pop songs, probably in
>>>>>> the '60s, but I could not recall either of the songs, just a few words of
>>>>>> one of them. lyrics.com helped me find them later, plus at least one more
>>>>>> I vaguely recalled. I also remembered misunderstanding/hearing one of the
>>>>>> lyrics.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what was the Wordle word? I wonder if the word association would
>>>>> work for me or others?
>>
>>> Bayou
>>
>> Works for me.
>> Blue Bayou - Roy Orbison
>
> That was my mondegreen - a weird usage of 'blue by you' which, now I come
> to think of it, may have been deliberate.
>
>> Jambalaya - Hank Williams (although I probably first heard it by The
>> Carpenters)
>
> I'm not sure now whose version I first heard. I did watch a film with/about
> Hank Williams as a B movie in my teens, which impressed me greatly.
>
> Lots of people have recorded it. It's a very odd song, including English,
> French and Spanish, much of which is mangled in various transcripts of the
> lyrics.
>
>> Born On The Bayou - Creedence Clearwater Revival...and I suspect there
>> are others which will come bck to me.
>
> lyrics.com found "1,271 lyrics, 22 artists and 50 albums matching 'bayou'"
> and "109 lyrics, 23 artists and 50 albums matching 'Jambalaya bayou'"
>
>> Levee is another evocative word which I've only really met in pop
>> songs[1], and which brings a few lyrics back strongly and instantly.
>
> Oh yes, but the context of going to the levee and the levee was dry helped
> in understanding.

I could never understand that. The levee is an artificial raising of the
river bank and is meant to be dry, otherwise it isn't doing its job.

Mike Ruddock

>
>> [1]At least until 2005, Hurricane Katrina and the New Orleans floods,
>> when it was used in a few news reports.
>
>
> Doing the NYT mini crossword daily is, erm, educational, at least in the US
> culture they expect their readers to know.

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