On 13/04/2023 17:18, Java Jive wrote:
> On 13/04/2023 15:00, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 13/04/2023 09:46, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>
>>>   There is a campaign to capitalise Braille, as its the name of the
>>> inventor
>>> of the code in the same way to Morse for Morse code.
>>>   I was wondering what brought this thread back to life after all
>>> this time.
>>
>> My spellchecker insists on capitalising Negro and derivatives which I
>> suppose it all right. Christian too. But not unchristian. The Grauniad
>> likes to capitalise Black but keep white uncapitalised.
>
> FALSE!
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/02/race-today-archive-chronicling-black-britons-lives-launches-online
>
> Headline reads: "Race Today archive chronicling lives of black Britons
> to launch online" and in the 15 examples on one page, the only
> capitalised 'black' is part of a title of a Day-of-Action.

They're not very consistent. I think it's up to the subeditors to
"correct" the capitalisation.

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Max Demian

On 13/04/2023 17:53, Max Demian wrote:
>
> On 13/04/2023 17:18, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 13/04/2023 15:00, Max Demian wrote:
>>>
>>> The
>>> Grauniad likes to capitalise Black but keep white uncapitalised.
>>
>> FALSE!
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/02/race-today-archive-chronicling-black-britons-lives-launches-online
>>
>> Headline reads: "Race Today archive chronicling lives of black Britons
>> to launch online" and in the 15 examples on one page, the only
>> capitalised 'black' is part of a title of a Day-of-Action.
>
> They're not very consistent. I think it's up to the subeditors to
> "correct" the capitalisation.

You'll have to do better than that. You used the word 'likes', but have
given zero evidence in support of your claim, meanwhile I have given
contradictory evidence against it. So in the absence of any evidence in
support of your claim, we'll just assume that it's another piece of bigotry.

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On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 15:00:55 +0100, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>On 13/04/2023 09:46, Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> There is a campaign to capitalise Braille, as its the name of the inventor
>> of the code in the same way to Morse for Morse code.
>> I was wondering what brought this thread back to life after all this time.
>
>My spellchecker insists on capitalising Negro and derivatives which I
>suppose it all right. Christian too. But not unchristian. The Grauniad
>likes to capitalise Black but keep white uncapitalised.

I have a book by Christopher Hitchens, the title of which is shown as
"god is not Great" [sic], but I think this is a deliberate part of the
point the author wants to make.

Rod.

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 13/04/2023 15:00, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 13/04/2023 09:46, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>
>>>   There is a campaign to capitalise Braille, as its the name of the
>>> inventor
>>> of the code in the same way to Morse for Morse code.
>>>   I was wondering what brought this thread back to life after all this
>>> time.
>>
>> My spellchecker insists on capitalising Negro and derivatives which I
>> suppose it all right. Christian too. But not unchristian. The Grauniad
>> likes to capitalise Black but keep white uncapitalised.
>
> FALSE!
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/02/race-today-archive-chronicling-black-britons-lives-launches-online
>
> Headline reads: "Race Today archive chronicling lives of black Britons
> to launch online" and in the 15 examples on one page, the only
> capitalised 'black' is part of a title of a Day-of-Action.

A glance over the results of searching The Grauniad
for the word Black when related to people suggests that where not used to
start a sentence, it is capitalised rather more than not.

You might like to carry out a more comprehensive survey for the use of the
word, than a single article.

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Spike

On 13/04/2023 18:19, Java Jive wrote:
> On 13/04/2023 17:53, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 13/04/2023 17:18, Java Jive wrote:
>>> On 13/04/2023 15:00, Max Demian wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Grauniad likes to capitalise Black but keep white uncapitalised.
>>>
>>> FALSE!
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/02/race-today-archive-chronicling-black-britons-lives-launches-online
>>> Headline reads: "Race Today archive chronicling lives of black
>>> Britons to launch online" and in the 15 examples on one page, the
>>> only capitalised 'black' is part of a title of a Day-of-Action.
>>
>> They're not very consistent. I think it's up to the subeditors to
>> "correct" the capitalisation.
>
> You'll have to do better than that.  You used the word 'likes', but have
> given zero evidence in support of your claim, meanwhile I have given
> contradictory evidence against it.  So in the absence of any evidence in
> support of your claim, we'll just assume that it's another piece of
> bigotry.

Maybe you don't read the online Guardian much. (I only read it for the
spot-the-ball contest (Kenneth Horne joke).)

Examples:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/12/tennessee-three-justin-pearson-justin-jones
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/02/blackout-tuesday-tv-boardrooms-still-very-white
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/23/black-history-diverse-curriculum-football-teacher
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/23/buying-black-affirmation-tower-minority-real-estate-development

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Max Demian

On 14/04/2023 12:22, Max Demian wrote:
> On 13/04/2023 18:19, Java Jive wrote:
>> On 13/04/2023 17:53, Max Demian wrote:
>>> On 13/04/2023 17:18, Java Jive wrote:
>>>> On 13/04/2023 15:00, Max Demian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Grauniad likes to capitalise Black but keep white uncapitalised.
>>>>
>>>> FALSE!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/02/race-today-archive-chronicling-black-britons-lives-launches-online
>>>>
>>>> Headline reads: "Race Today archive chronicling lives of black
>>>> Britons to launch online" and in the 15 examples on one page, the
>>>> only capitalised 'black' is part of a title of a Day-of-Action.
>>>
>>> They're not very consistent. I think it's up to the subeditors to
>>> "correct" the capitalisation.
>>
>> You'll have to do better than that.  You used the word 'likes', but
>> have given zero evidence in support of your claim, meanwhile I have
>> given contradictory evidence against it.  So in the absence of any
>> evidence in support of your claim, we'll just assume that it's another
>> piece of bigotry.
>
> Maybe you don't read the online Guardian much. (I only read it for the
> spot-the-ball contest (Kenneth Horne joke).)

More that I mainly read its news items and not much else.

> Examples:
> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/12/tennessee-three-justin-pearson-justin-jones
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/02/blackout-tuesday-tv-boardrooms-still-very-white
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/23/black-history-diverse-curriculum-football-teacher
> https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/23/buying-black-affirmation-tower-minority-real-estate-development

I accept that evidence, perhaps you'd've done better to have provided it
when you made your initial claim. Although two of the pieces were
Opinion pieces, so can't be ascribed to any Guardian policy as such, the
two news items do support your claim.

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