Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?

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Op 24/08/2023 om 08:40 schreef Ottavio Caruso:
> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>

Forgot to ask. Is it safe to connect these mats into the electrical
earth? If there is a current leak, would that not go into the mat?

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What for? I know I nearly get electrocuted when taking off the duvet cover
without a mat.
Brian

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"Ottavio Caruso" <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>
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You need just a bleeding resistor to stop sparks. Maybe you would need to
wear rubber soled boots in bed?
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"Ottavio Caruso" <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Op 24/08/2023 om 08:40 schreef Ottavio Caruso:
>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>>
>
> Forgot to ask. Is it safe to connect these mats into the electrical earth?
> If there is a current leak, would that not go into the mat?
>
>
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>

On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?

What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?

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On 24/08/2023 11:10, John Rumm wrote:
> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>
> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>

Sounds like the sort of thing that would have been in the long deceased,
but fun to read, Innovations catalogue.

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On 24/08/2023 11:57, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 24/08/2023 11:10, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>>
>> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>>
>
> Sounds like the sort of thing that would have been in the long deceased,
> but fun to read, Innovations catalogue.

What we referred to as the "walrus polisher" catalogue :-)

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On Thursday, 24 August 2023 at 11:58:02 UTC+1, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 24/08/2023 11:10, John Rumm wrote:
> > On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> >> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
> >
> > What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
> >
> Sounds like the sort of thing that would have been in the long deceased,
> but fun to read, Innovations catalogue.
>
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Like X-Ray spectacles?

John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>
> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>

I am shocked that you’re unaware of the hazards of un-earthed sleeping
John! At the very least you need equipotential bonding to your partner.
;-)

Tim

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On 24/08/2023 11:10, John Rumm wrote:
> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>
> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>

The kind trolls talk about ;-)

On 24/08/2023 14:01, Tim+ wrote:
> John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
>> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>>
>> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>>
>
> I am shocked that you’re unaware of the hazards of un-earthed sleeping
> John! At the very least you need equipotential bonding to your partner.
> ;-)

Don't worry, I have a special probe for that :-)

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On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 14:11:09 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

> On 24/08/2023 14:01, Tim+ wrote:
>> John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
>>> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>>>
>>> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>>>
>>>
>> I am shocked that you’re unaware of the hazards of un-earthed sleeping
>> John! At the very least you need equipotential bonding to your
>> partner.
>> ;-)
>
> Don't worry, I have a special probe for that :-)

....and a warm, moist receptacle.

On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 14:03:38 +0100, mm0fmf wrote:

> On 24/08/2023 11:10, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>>
>> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>>
>>
> The kind trolls talk about ;-)

Everyone is included, no discrimination.

John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
> On 24/08/2023 14:01, Tim+ wrote:
>> John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
>>> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>>>
>>> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>>>
>>
>> I am shocked that you’re unaware of the hazards of un-earthed sleeping
>> John! At the very least you need equipotential bonding to your partner.
>> ;-)
>
> Don't worry, I have a special probe for that :-)
>

Just don’t let your earth rod dry out. ;-)

Tim

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On 24/08/2023 14:11, John Rumm wrote:
> On 24/08/2023 14:01, Tim+ wrote:
>> John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
>>> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>>>
>>> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>>>
>>
>> I am shocked that you’re unaware of the hazards of un-earthed sleeping
>> John!  At the very least you need equipotential bonding to your partner.
>> ;-)
>
> Don't worry, I have a special probe for that :-)
>

It's always much better when you are at different potentials and the
sparks fly.

There have been several over the years, not sure if they are snake oil
though. One used to go over the mattress and earth to the metal frame of
some beds, the others were literally floor mats that you earthed. A bit like
a giant anti static workstation for handling sensitive components like
COMES chips. The idea was to keep everything at the same potential, since
they were not actually like wire is conductive, they were more like having a
bleed resistor so nothing could get charged up. I need one in my bedroom, as
if I get up and touch a filing cabinet in the corner, I get a crack and I'm
fully awake. The same thing happens if I walk about in there for a bit. The
filing cabinet just happens to be big and metal, its not actually earthed.
Brian

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"John Rumm" <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote in message
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> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>
> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
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Many also advocate the magnetic blanket of course. It is supposed to stop
arthritic pain during sleep. I think somebody did some blind tests of these,
and they can actually work, though nobody is quite sure of the mechanism.
Brian

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> On 24/08/2023 11:10, John Rumm wrote:
>> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>>
>> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>>
>
> Sounds like the sort of thing that would have been in the long deceased,
> but fun to read, Innovations catalogue.
>
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>

Yes they had a device called Ray-o-vac, that was supposed to clean vinyl
records by rotating them in a slot with carbon fibre bristles and a tiny
vacuum inside. Most of the time although it took off visible dirt, it did
not clean deep in the groove and managed to charge up the disc as you
removed it so all the much flew back on. There was an even cheaper version
sold by Woolworths, that used foam and chucked the dust out into the air
completely which was even less effective, but then it was made by Ronco.

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> On 24/08/2023 11:57, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 24/08/2023 11:10, John Rumm wrote:
>>> On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>>>
>>> What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like the sort of thing that would have been in the long deceased,
>> but fun to read, Innovations catalogue.
>
> What we referred to as the "walrus polisher" catalogue :-)
>
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>
> John.
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On 25/08/2023 11:50, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Many also advocate the magnetic blanket of course. It is supposed to stop
> arthritic pain during sleep. I think somebody did some blind tests of these,
> and they can actually work, though nobody is quite sure of the mechanism.
> Brian
>

How much magnetic junk do they pick up though?

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I don't think they actually existed. However at one time they sold a little
passive set of badges that were supposed to indicate if you had been near
dangerous radiation by either changing colour or a line appearing. Seemed a
bit pointless telling you if it was already too late!

Did they also not stock the Buttoneer device that was advertised on TV, that
was basically a similar device to those that fitted price tags to clothing
using a nylon attachment that was heated to flatten the ends?

I'd love to know where a lot of their oddities went to. Most of course were
just novelties and had no use at all. They had a kind of perpetual Snow
Globe that needed batteries, a very handy item, not. They also had a so
called anti static record player mat. It seemed to basically be a bit of 3M
conductive foam cut in a circle with a hole in the middle. No it failed
miserably, and often came off with the record.

They also had a rebranded Ambit-Tune for a while. This was a device to
enable reception of BBC long wave on sets that only had Medium wave.
Basically, two ferrite rods, a one transistor oscillator/mixer and a 9v PP3.
You placed it near you radio on a blank part of the band and uses a
screwdriver to tune in Long wave.
Its about as useful today as a chocolate teapot.

Does anyone remember the shop called Proops? They used to be in London near
Edgeware road. They were a bit like Innovations, but they had mostly
novelties. Who remembers the perpetual motion globes?
A spinning set of arms not unlike a wind speed device, inside a vacuum in
a globe shape. One side was dark the other light and these things spun
apparently with nothing to power them at all.
It had something to do with cold body radiation recharged from any light
source that might be around.
Then there were those globes with a high voltage inside that glowed
purple, but when you touched the outside little fingers of lightening cam
across the void inside to where your fingers were but you felt nothing. In
the base these devices had a high voltage generator and the apparently empty
globe had a gas of some sort inside. This was also the company who sold ball
bearing clocks.
Brian

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"John J" <johnjessop46@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thursday, 24 August 2023 at 11:58:02 UTC+1, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 24/08/2023 11:10, John Rumm wrote:
>> > On 24/08/2023 09:40, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> >> Has anybody here ever tried one of these earthing/grounding mats?
>> >
>> > What earthing/grounding mats are you talking about?
>> >
>> Sounds like the sort of thing that would have been in the long deceased,
>> but fun to read, Innovations catalogue.
>>
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> Like X-Ray spectacles?

On 25/08/2023 11:48, Brian Gaff wrote:
> There have been several over the years, not sure if they are snake oil
> though. One used to go over the mattress and earth to the metal frame of
> some beds, the others were literally floor mats that you earthed. A bit like
> a giant anti static workstation for handling sensitive components like
> COMES chips. The idea was to keep everything at the same potential, since
> they were not actually like wire is conductive, they were more like having a
> bleed resistor so nothing could get charged up. I need one in my bedroom, as
> if I get up and touch a filing cabinet in the corner, I get a crack and I'm
> fully awake. The same thing happens if I walk about in there for a bit. The
> filing cabinet just happens to be big and metal, its not actually earthed.
> Brian
>

Well seeing as the "Earth pin" on a mains socket isn't at "earth
potential" and the earth wire usually has large amounts of electrical
noise present I can't see how they can work.

David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> wrote:
> On 25/08/2023 11:48, Brian Gaff wrote:
>> There have been several over the years, not sure if they are snake oil
>> though. One used to go over the mattress and earth to the metal frame of
>> some beds, the others were literally floor mats that you earthed. A bit like
>> a giant anti static workstation for handling sensitive components like
>> COMES chips. The idea was to keep everything at the same potential, since
>> they were not actually like wire is conductive, they were more like having a
>> bleed resistor so nothing could get charged up. I need one in my bedroom, as
>> if I get up and touch a filing cabinet in the corner, I get a crack and I'm
>> fully awake. The same thing happens if I walk about in there for a bit. The
>> filing cabinet just happens to be big and metal, its not actually earthed.
>> Brian
>>
>
> Well seeing as the "Earth pin" on a mains socket isn't at "earth
> potential" and the earth wire usually has large amounts of electrical
> noise present I can't see how they can work.
>

They take money from the gullible. I almost wish I could stoop to that
level. Must be fortunes to be made from “herbal vaccines”, whole body
harmonic stabilisers etc..

Tim

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On 25/08/2023 15:32, Tim+ wrote:
> David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> wrote:
>> On 25/08/2023 11:48, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>> There have been several over the years, not sure if they are snake oil
>>> though. One used to go over the mattress and earth to the metal frame of
>>> some beds, the others were literally floor mats that you earthed. A bit like
>>> a giant anti static workstation for handling sensitive components like
>>> COMES chips. The idea was to keep everything at the same potential, since
>>> they were not actually like wire is conductive, they were more like having a
>>> bleed resistor so nothing could get charged up. I need one in my bedroom, as
>>> if I get up and touch a filing cabinet in the corner, I get a crack and I'm
>>> fully awake. The same thing happens if I walk about in there for a bit. The
>>> filing cabinet just happens to be big and metal, its not actually earthed.
>>> Brian
>>>
>>
>> Well seeing as the "Earth pin" on a mains socket isn't at "earth
>> potential" and the earth wire usually has large amounts of electrical
>> noise present I can't see how they can work.
>>
>
> They take money from the gullible. I almost wish I could stoop to that
> level. Must be fortunes to be made from “herbal vaccines”, whole body
> harmonic stabilisers etc..
>
> Tim
>
Tim,

Perhaps we need to think small, gold plated HDMI & USB leads. Oxygen
free speaker wire, those plug-in electricity power savers...

Dave

On 25/08/2023 12:15, Brian Gaff wrote:
> I don't think they actually existed. However at one time they sold a little
> passive set of badges that were supposed to indicate if you had been near
> dangerous radiation by either changing colour or a line appearing. Seemed a
> bit pointless telling you if it was already too late!

Brian, the point about film badges was to tell whether you were safe to
carry on working in areas with low level radiation.

Andy

On 25/08/2023 21:25, Vir Campestris wrote:
> On 25/08/2023 12:15, Brian Gaff wrote:
>> I don't think they actually existed. However at one time they sold a
>> little
>> passive set of badges that were supposed to indicate if you had been near
>> dangerous radiation by either changing colour or a line appearing.
>> Seemed a
>> bit pointless telling you if it was already too late!
>
> Brian, the point about film badges was to tell whether you were safe to
> carry on working in areas with low level radiation.
>
> Andy
The ignorance surrounding radiation is massive, and deliberately fostered
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