On 30/09/2023 04:12 pm, S Mason wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:01:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 30/09/2023 14:30, charles wrote:
>>> In article <hBURM.181840$MU78.165776@usenetxs.com>,
>>> Radio Man <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. Why don't "The Motorists"
>>>> just cycle or walk instead? The "Motorists" who are too old, too
>>>> fucked, too fat, too idle, or too up themselves to walk or to cycle
>>>> can get a taxi or use the fantastic, efficient, reasonably priced
>>>> public transport that the wonderful Conservative party had the
>>>> foresight to deregulate and privatise for them.
>>>
>>>> Grow Up, Motorists!
>>>
>>> I used to cycle for local journeys but I was knocked off my bike -
>>> receiving a badly broken arm - I lost my nerve after that. Too many
>>> motorist who don't give adequate room when passing.
>>>
>> On the roads rind here the LycraLouts™ insist on riding down the
>> center. They patently have no idea how to control a bicycle accurately
>> enough with anything less than a 1,5m gap either side and more if they
>> can arrange it, but of course they never took a test, have no insurance
>> , and these days have effective immunity under the Law.
>> Their very saddles stink with the odour of sanctity of their non carbon
>> emittiung bicycles.
>
> I hope you've got some sort of spittle guard on that keyboard of yours...

....says May Sun, a laughing stock over on uk.r.c

On 30/09/2023 05:34 pm, S Mason wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:25:37 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
>
>> On 30 Sep 2023 at 16:08:41 BST, "John J" <johnjessop46@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, 30 September 2023 at 15:01:08 UTC+1, The Natural
>>> Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 30/09/2023 14:30, charles wrote:
>>>>> In article <hBURM.181840$MU78....@usenetxs.com>,
>>>>> Radio Man <no....@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. Why don't "The Motorists"
>>>>>> just cycle or walk instead?
>>
>> So that would be 6 miles to Morrison's and 6 miles back - carrying two
>> large shopping bags each. And that's not counting the two large folds on
>> the Downs in between. Admittedly there is a village shop some 3 miles
>> from here.
>>
>
> Cargo bike.

You can possibly borrow one from the clowns the next time the circus is
nearby.

On 30/09/2023 08:18 pm, S Mason wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 18:23:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 30/09/2023 16:12, S Mason wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:01:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/09/2023 14:30, charles wrote:
>>>>> In article <hBURM.181840$MU78.165776@usenetxs.com>,
>>>>> Radio Man <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. Why don't "The Motorists"
>>>>>> just cycle or walk instead? The "Motorists" who are too old, too
>>>>>> fucked, too fat, too idle, or too up themselves to walk or to cycle
>>>>>> can get a taxi or use the fantastic, efficient, reasonably priced
>>>>>> public transport that the wonderful Conservative party had the
>>>>>> foresight to deregulate and privatise for them.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Grow Up, Motorists!
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to cycle for local journeys but I was knocked off my bike -
>>>>> receiving a badly broken arm - I lost my nerve after that. Too many
>>>>> motorist who don't give adequate room when passing.
>>>>>
>>>> On the roads rind here the LycraLouts™ insist on riding down the
>>>> center. They patently have no idea how to control a bicycle accurately
>>>> enough with anything less than a 1,5m gap either side and more if they
>>>> can arrange it, but of course they never took a test, have no
>>>> insurance , and these days have effective immunity under the Law.
>>>> Their very saddles stink with the odour of sanctity of their non
>>>> carbon emittiung bicycles.
>>>
>>> I hope you've got some sort of spittle guard on that keyboard of yours.
>>
>> No spittle. Just *facts*. You know the things that cause you to have a
>> panic attack and cover your ears.
>> And leap in to mount an *emotional* attack on the people who divulge
>> them to you.
>
> You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the arse.

Ooh!

What about the fact that you drove an unroadworthy car halfway across a
continent because you were too tight-fisted to get it repaired and made
safe?

And then boasted about it.

Or even better, the fact that you boasted about binge-drinking
home-brew... get this... in a pit in the floor of your garage?

On 01/10/2023 05:37 pm, Brian Gaff wrote:

> Ho ho, are you really a troll or just playing one, or maybe traininng?
>
> I think it has become a very good revenue stream to catch people parking or
> going over the speed limit since the Government have starved local
> authorities of funding for many years now, and its not all going to be
> fundable out of council tax or business rates.

Speed limit fines go the Treasury.

> I do't care which government gets in, in the end running a national debt if
> interest rates rise is unsustainable and running a council without the help
> from central taxation is also unsustainable. Its a bit like everyone has
> painted themselves into a corner. If you have to rely on taxis and busses
> and trains as a blind person, you soon find out how cheap owning a car will
> seem.
> Brian
>

On 01/10/2023 10:40 pm, S Mason wrote:

> [to The Natural Philosopher]:

> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking about
> in your original rant about law abiding cyclists...

....and all the other fantastic creatures - unicorns, dragons, etc...

On 03/10/2023 06:27 am, S Mason wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Oct 2023 20:28:45 -0500, JNugent wrote:
>
>> On 01/10/2023 16:55, S Mason wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 22:49:52 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/10/2023 22:40, S Mason wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 22:23:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/10/2023 11:27, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 10:56:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 20:18, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 18:23:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 16:12, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:01:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 14:30, charles wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <hBURM.181840$MU78.165776@usenetxs.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radio Man <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. Why don't "The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Motorists"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just cycle or walk instead? The "Motorists" who are too old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too fucked, too fat, too idle, or too up themselves to walk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or to cycle can get a taxi or use the fantastic, efficient,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonably priced public transport that the wonderful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conservative party had the foresight to deregulate and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> privatise for them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grow Up, Motorists!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to cycle for local journeys but I was knocked off my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> receiving a badly broken arm - I lost my nerve after that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too many motorist who don't give adequate room when passing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On the roads rind here the LycraLouts™ insist on riding down
>>>>>>>>>>>> the center. They patently have no idea how to control a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bicycle accurately enough with anything less than a 1,5m gap
>>>>>>>>>>>> either side and more if they can arrange it, but of course
>>>>>>>>>>>> they never took a test, have no insurance , and these days
>>>>>>>>>>>> have effective immunity under the Law. Their very saddles
>>>>>>>>>>>> stink with the odour of sanctity of their non carbon emittiung
>>>>>>>>>>>> bicycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you've got some sort of spittle guard on that keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>> of yours.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No spittle. Just *facts*. You know the things that cause you to
>>>>>>>>>> have a panic attack and cover your ears.
>>>>>>>>>> And leap in to mount an *emotional* attack on the people who
>>>>>>>>>> divulge them to you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the arse.
>>>>>>>> Oh dear, more emotional fact free responses.
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> Darling boy, I made my career as a practising engineer. No a BBC
>>>>>>>> newscaster.
>>>>>>>> Machines respond to facts.
>>>>>>>> Not to idle opinions.
>>>>>>>> I cant make my car do another ten miles by promising it that I
>>>>>>>> will fill up at the next fuel station.
>>>>>>>> If my designs are not cosnsistent with the facts, they dont work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I said:
>>>>>>>> On the roads rind here the LycraLouts™ insist on riding down the
>>>>>>>> center.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is an actual fact.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They patently have no idea how to control a bicycle
>>>>>>>> accurately enough with anything less than a 1,5m gap either
>>>>>>>> side and more if they
>>>>>>>> can arrange it,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is also a fact. They are the most selfish road users ever.
>>>>>>>> They have been told how scared they must be of cars but how they
>>>>>>>> can prosecute a driver who doesn't leave a meter gap, which means
>>>>>>>> they can render themselves impossible to overtake, and they do.
>>>>>>>> one mile tailbacks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but of course they never took a test,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is a fact.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have no insurance ,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is a fact.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and these days have effective immunity under the Law.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is a fact.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Their very saddles stink with the odour of sanctity of their
>>>>>>>> non carbon emitting bicycles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Poetic license
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All perfectly legal. I thought you lot liked law and order, or is
>>>>>>> that only when it suits YOU?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Legality does not necessarily equate with good practice.
>>>>>> I see a report in the comic DE that Cambridge, home of the lightless
>>>>>> pavement riding bicycle is the worst town for lethal traffic
>>>>>> accidents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are not legal. Neither is cycling the wrong way down a one way
>>>>>> street or lurching off the pavement in front of a car. Or going
>>>>>> round a roundabout the wrong way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say only one in three cambridge cyclists are fit to be
>>>>>> allowed on the public roads when they decide that the pavement isn't
>>>>>> where they want to be..
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking
>>>>> about in your original rant about law abiding cyclists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same old.
>>>> You are becoming a total fucking bore with your pathetic juvenile
>>>> insults whenever you cant make a rational case.
>>>>
>>>> *plonk*
>>>
>>> And a sore LOOOOOOOOSER TOOOOOOOOOO!
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>
>> Oi! May Sun!
>>
>> Yes... YOU!
>>
>> Aren't you the very same May Sun who has been deceitfully claiming for
>> years that you have a large number of posters killfiled and never see
>> their posts, but then spend hours every week responding in detail to
>> them whilst pretending that you haven't seen them?
>
> No,

Oh yes... I forgot to add the other apt description of you, May Sun:

LIAR.
>
>> :-)
>> LOL indeed...

> Muddleheaded muppet.

Did you get that? LIAR!
>

On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:35:11 +0100, JNugent wrote:

> On 03/10/2023 06:27 am, S Mason wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Oct 2023 20:28:45 -0500, JNugent wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/10/2023 16:55, S Mason wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 22:49:52 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/10/2023 22:40, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 22:23:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/10/2023 11:27, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 10:56:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 20:18, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 18:23:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 16:12, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:01:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 14:30, charles wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <hBURM.181840$MU78.165776@usenetxs.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radio Man <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. Why don't "The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Motorists"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just cycle or walk instead? The "Motorists" who are too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too fucked, too fat, too idle, or too up themselves to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walk or to cycle can get a taxi or use the fantastic,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efficient, reasonably priced public transport that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful Conservative party had the foresight to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deregulate and privatise for them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grow Up, Motorists!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to cycle for local journeys but I was knocked off my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receiving a badly broken arm - I lost my nerve after that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too many motorist who don't give adequate room when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the roads rind here the LycraLouts™ insist on riding down
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the center. They patently have no idea how to control a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bicycle accurately enough with anything less than a 1,5m gap
>>>>>>>>>>>>> either side and more if they can arrange it, but of course
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they never took a test, have no insurance , and these days
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have effective immunity under the Law. Their very saddles
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stink with the odour of sanctity of their non carbon
>>>>>>>>>>>>> emittiung bicycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you've got some sort of spittle guard on that keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>> of yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No spittle. Just *facts*. You know the things that cause you
>>>>>>>>>>> to have a panic attack and cover your ears.
>>>>>>>>>>> And leap in to mount an *emotional* attack on the people who
>>>>>>>>>>> divulge them to you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the arse.
>>>>>>>>> Oh dear, more emotional fact free responses.
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>> Darling boy, I made my career as a practising engineer. No a BBC
>>>>>>>>> newscaster.
>>>>>>>>> Machines respond to facts.
>>>>>>>>> Not to idle opinions.
>>>>>>>>> I cant make my car do another ten miles by promising it that I
>>>>>>>>> will fill up at the next fuel station.
>>>>>>>>> If my designs are not cosnsistent with the facts, they dont
>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I said:
>>>>>>>>> On the roads rind here the LycraLouts™ insist on riding down
>>>>>>>>> the center.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is an actual fact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They patently have no idea how to control a bicycle
>>>>>>>>> accurately enough with anything less than a 1,5m gap
>>>>>>>>> either side and more if they
>>>>>>>>> can arrange it,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is also a fact. They are the most selfish road users ever.
>>>>>>>>> They have been told how scared they must be of cars but how they
>>>>>>>>> can prosecute a driver who doesn't leave a meter gap, which
>>>>>>>>> means they can render themselves impossible to overtake, and
>>>>>>>>> they do. one mile tailbacks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but of course they never took a test,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have no insurance ,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and these days have effective immunity under the Law.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Their very saddles stink with the odour of sanctity of
>>>>>>>>> their non carbon emitting bicycles.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Poetic license
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All perfectly legal. I thought you lot liked law and order, or is
>>>>>>>> that only when it suits YOU?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Legality does not necessarily equate with good practice.
>>>>>>> I see a report in the comic DE that Cambridge, home of the
>>>>>>> lightless pavement riding bicycle is the worst town for lethal
>>>>>>> traffic accidents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These are not legal. Neither is cycling the wrong way down a one
>>>>>>> way street or lurching off the pavement in front of a car. Or
>>>>>>> going round a roundabout the wrong way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would say only one in three cambridge cyclists are fit to be
>>>>>>> allowed on the public roads when they decide that the pavement
>>>>>>> isn't where they want to be..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking
>>>>>> about in your original rant about law abiding cyclists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same old.
>>>>> You are becoming a total fucking bore with your pathetic juvenile
>>>>> insults whenever you cant make a rational case.
>>>>>
>>>>> *plonk*
>>>>
>>>> And a sore LOOOOOOOOSER TOOOOOOOOOO!
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Oi! May Sun!
>>>
>>> Yes... YOU!
>>>
>>> Aren't you the very same May Sun who has been deceitfully claiming for
>>> years that you have a large number of posters killfiled and never see
>>> their posts, but then spend hours every week responding in detail to
>>> them whilst pretending that you haven't seen them?
>>
>> No,
>
> Oh yes... I forgot to add the other apt description of you, May Sun:
>
> LIAR.
>>
>>> :-)
>>> LOL indeed...
>
>> Muddleheaded muppet.
>
> Did you get that? LIAR!
>>

On 12/10/2023 15:30, JNugent wrote:
> On 01/10/2023 05:37 pm, Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> Ho ho, are you really a troll or just playing one, or maybe traininng?
>>
>> I think it has become a very good revenue stream to catch people
>> parking or
>> going over the speed limit since the Government have starved local
>> authorities of funding for many years now, and its not all going to be
>> fundable out of council tax or business rates.
>
> Speed limit fines go the Treasury.
speed awareraness courses dont

>
>>   I do't care which government gets in, in the end running a national
>> debt if
>> interest rates rise is unsustainable and running a council without the
>> help
>> from central taxation is also unsustainable. Its a bit like everyone has
>> painted themselves into a corner. If you have to rely on taxis and busses
>> and trains as a blind person, you soon find out how cheap owning a car
>> will
>> seem.
>>   Brian
>>
>

--
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

"Saki"

On 12/10/2023 15:32, JNugent wrote:
> On 01/10/2023 10:40 pm, S Mason wrote:
>
>> [to The Natural Philosopher]:
>
>> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking about
>> in your original rant about law abiding cyclists...
>
> ...and all the other fantastic creatures - unicorns, dragons, etc...
Only seen Lycra louts.

--
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

"Saki"

JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
> On 01/10/2023 10:40 pm, S Mason wrote:

>> [to The Natural Philosopher]:

>> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking about
>> in your original rant about law abiding cyclists...

> ...and all the other fantastic creatures - unicorns, dragons, etc...

:-)

--
Spike

JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:

Keep in mind that this particular version of Simon Mason might not be the
same one that has occupied ukrc for the past few years. Different software,
different Usenet account, different English. I’m not sure that Simon Mason
(original version) could spell ‘muddleheaded’ even with a spellchecker.

Also, I don’t recall Simon Mason (original version) cross-posting to other
groups, for example.

--
Spike

On 12 Oct 2023 at 15:30:33 BST, "JNugent" <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:

> On 01/10/2023 05:37 pm, Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> Ho ho, are you really a troll or just playing one, or maybe traininng?
>>
>> I think it has become a very good revenue stream to catch people parking or
>> going over the speed limit since the Government have starved local
>> authorities of funding for many years now, and its not all going to be
>> fundable out of council tax or business rates.
>
> Speed limit fines go the Treasury.

And it's quite right that they should do so.

--
"Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc

On 13/10/23 03:32, JNugent wrote:
> On 01/10/2023 10:40 pm, S Mason wrote:
>
>> [to The Natural Philosopher]:
>
>> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking about
>> in your original rant about law abiding cyclists...
>
> ...and all the other fantastic creatures - unicorns, dragons, etc...

... and intelligent non-corrupt ethical politicians --
(I am supposed to vote today in our election)

On 13/10/2023 09:06 am, Peter Keller wrote:

> On 13/10/23 03:32, JNugent wrote:
>> On 01/10/2023 10:40 pm, S Mason wrote:
>
>>> [to The Natural Philosopher]:
>
>>> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking about
>>> in your original rant about law abiding cyclists...
>
>> ...and all the other fantastic creatures - unicorns, dragons, etc...
>
> .. and intelligent non-corrupt ethical politicians --
> (I am supposed to vote today in our election)

Best of luck, Peter.

On 12/10/2023 03:52 pm, S Mason wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:35:11 +0100, JNugent wrote:
>
>> On 03/10/2023 06:27 am, S Mason wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Oct 2023 20:28:45 -0500, JNugent wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/10/2023 16:55, S Mason wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 22:49:52 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/10/2023 22:40, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 22:23:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 01/10/2023 11:27, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 10:56:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 20:18, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 18:23:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 16:12, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:01:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 14:30, charles wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <hBURM.181840$MU78.165776@usenetxs.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radio Man <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. Why don't "The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Motorists"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just cycle or walk instead? The "Motorists" who are too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too fucked, too fat, too idle, or too up themselves to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walk or to cycle can get a taxi or use the fantastic,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efficient, reasonably priced public transport that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful Conservative party had the foresight to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deregulate and privatise for them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grow Up, Motorists!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to cycle for local journeys but I was knocked off my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receiving a badly broken arm - I lost my nerve after that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too many motorist who don't give adequate room when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the roads rind here the LycraLouts™ insist on riding down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the center. They patently have no idea how to control a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bicycle accurately enough with anything less than a 1,5m gap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either side and more if they can arrange it, but of course
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they never took a test, have no insurance , and these days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have effective immunity under the Law. Their very saddles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stink with the odour of sanctity of their non carbon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emittiung bicycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you've got some sort of spittle guard on that keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No spittle. Just *facts*. You know the things that cause you
>>>>>>>>>>>> to have a panic attack and cover your ears.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And leap in to mount an *emotional* attack on the people who
>>>>>>>>>>>> divulge them to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the arse.
>>>>>>>>>> Oh dear, more emotional fact free responses.
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> Darling boy, I made my career as a practising engineer. No a BBC
>>>>>>>>>> newscaster.
>>>>>>>>>> Machines respond to facts.
>>>>>>>>>> Not to idle opinions.
>>>>>>>>>> I cant make my car do another ten miles by promising it that I
>>>>>>>>>> will fill up at the next fuel station.
>>>>>>>>>> If my designs are not cosnsistent with the facts, they dont
>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I said:
>>>>>>>>>> On the roads rind here the LycraLouts™ insist on riding down
>>>>>>>>>> the center.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is an actual fact.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They patently have no idea how to control a bicycle
>>>>>>>>>> accurately enough with anything less than a 1,5m gap
>>>>>>>>>> either side and more if they
>>>>>>>>>> can arrange it,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is also a fact. They are the most selfish road users ever.
>>>>>>>>>> They have been told how scared they must be of cars but how they
>>>>>>>>>> can prosecute a driver who doesn't leave a meter gap, which
>>>>>>>>>> means they can render themselves impossible to overtake, and
>>>>>>>>>> they do. one mile tailbacks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but of course they never took a test,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have no insurance ,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and these days have effective immunity under the Law.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Their very saddles stink with the odour of sanctity of
>>>>>>>>>> their non carbon emitting bicycles.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Poetic license
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All perfectly legal. I thought you lot liked law and order, or is
>>>>>>>>> that only when it suits YOU?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Legality does not necessarily equate with good practice.
>>>>>>>> I see a report in the comic DE that Cambridge, home of the
>>>>>>>> lightless pavement riding bicycle is the worst town for lethal
>>>>>>>> traffic accidents.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These are not legal. Neither is cycling the wrong way down a one
>>>>>>>> way street or lurching off the pavement in front of a car. Or
>>>>>>>> going round a roundabout the wrong way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would say only one in three cambridge cyclists are fit to be
>>>>>>>> allowed on the public roads when they decide that the pavement
>>>>>>>> isn't where they want to be..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking
>>>>>>> about in your original rant about law abiding cyclists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same old.
>>>>>> You are becoming a total fucking bore with your pathetic juvenile
>>>>>> insults whenever you cant make a rational case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *plonk*
>>>>>
>>>>> And a sore LOOOOOOOOSER TOOOOOOOOOO!
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Oi! May Sun!
>>>>
>>>> Yes... YOU!
>>>>
>>>> Aren't you the very same May Sun who has been deceitfully claiming for
>>>> years that you have a large number of posters killfiled and never see
>>>> their posts, but then spend hours every week responding in detail to
>>>> them whilst pretending that you haven't seen them?
>>>
>>> No,
>>
>> Oh yes... I forgot to add the other apt description of you, May Sun:
>>
>> LIAR.
>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>> LOL indeed...
>>
>>> Muddleheaded muppet.
>>
>> Did you get that? LIAR!
>>>
>
> You mental cunt.

On 12/10/2023 04:05 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 12/10/2023 15:30, JNugent wrote:
>> On 01/10/2023 05:37 pm, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>
>>> Ho ho, are you really a troll or just playing one, or maybe traininng?
>>>
>>> I think it has become a very good revenue stream to catch people
>>> parking or
>>> going over the speed limit since the Government have starved local
>>> authorities of funding for many years now, and its not all going to be
>>> fundable out of council tax or business rates.
>>
>> Speed limit fines go the Treasury.

> speed awareraness courses dont

Do they go to the local police (who, I assume, run the courses)?

>>>   I do't care which government gets in, in the end running a national
>>> debt if
>>> interest rates rise is unsustainable and running a council without
>>> the help
>>> from central taxation is also unsustainable. Its a bit like everyone has
>>> painted themselves into a corner. If you have to rely on taxis and
>>> busses
>>> and trains as a blind person, you soon find out how cheap owning a
>>> car will
>>> seem.
>>>   Brian
>>>
>>
>

On 12/10/2023 04:36 pm, Spike wrote:
> JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that this particular version of Simon Mason might not be the
> same one that has occupied ukrc for the past few years. Different software,
> different Usenet account, different English. I’m not sure that Simon Mason
> (original version) could spell ‘muddleheaded’ even with a spellchecker.
>
> Also, I don’t recall Simon Mason (original version) cross-posting to other
> groups, for example.

It has been known. Not recently. But it has been known.

On 12/10/2023 06:12 pm, Tim Streater wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2023 at 15:30:33 BST, "JNugent" <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 01/10/2023 05:37 pm, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>
>>> Ho ho, are you really a troll or just playing one, or maybe traininng?
>>>
>>> I think it has become a very good revenue stream to catch people parking or
>>> going over the speed limit since the Government have starved local
>>> authorities of funding for many years now, and its not all going to be
>>> fundable out of council tax or business rates.
>>
>> Speed limit fines go the Treasury.
>
> And it's quite right that they should do so.

Oh... no argument from me!

I'd rather that London speeding fines and FPN receipts went to the
Treasury than to Genghis Khan.

On 13/10/2023 11:28, JNugent wrote:
> On 12/10/2023 04:05 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 12/10/2023 15:30, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 01/10/2023 05:37 pm, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ho ho, are you really a troll or just playing one, or maybe traininng?
>>>>
>>>> I think it has become a very good revenue stream to catch people
>>>> parking or
>>>> going over the speed limit since the Government have starved local
>>>> authorities of funding for many years now, and its not all going to be
>>>> fundable out of council tax or business rates.
>>>
>>> Speed limit fines go the Treasury.
>
>> speed awareraness courses dont
>
> Do they go to the local police (who, I assume, run the courses)?
>
No, they are subbed out to private firms.

Crony capitalism at its finest.
--
“A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader,
who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
“We did this ourselves.”

― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

On 13 Oct 2023 at 11:30:33 BST, "JNugent" <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:

> On 12/10/2023 06:12 pm, Tim Streater wrote:
>> On 12 Oct 2023 at 15:30:33 BST, "JNugent" <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/10/2023 05:37 pm, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ho ho, are you really a troll or just playing one, or maybe traininng?
>>>>
>>>> I think it has become a very good revenue stream to catch people parking or
>>>> going over the speed limit since the Government have starved local
>>>> authorities of funding for many years now, and its not all going to be
>>>> fundable out of council tax or business rates.
>>>
>>> Speed limit fines go the Treasury.
>>
>> And it's quite right that they should do so.
>
> Oh... no argument from me!
>
> I'd rather that London speeding fines and FPN receipts went to the
> Treasury than to Genghis Khan.

It's not a question of disliking some politician or other: it's about getting
your political structures right. In the US of A, while I lived there, I got a
speeding ticket and went to traffic school to reduce the fine. This one was
run, that day, by an off-duty San Francisco cop. As we were about to pack up
for the day, he said "Any questions?" and a little old lady asked: "Is it true
that there are quotas?" He thought for a bit, and then said: "Yes, but no one
would ever admit it publicly."

What this was about, I eventually discovered to be as follows: the city is
running out of money, so the Mayor phones up his mate the Chief of Police
(elected on the same political ticket), and drops him the hint. The Chief then
calls down to the head of the Traffic Division, and passes it on to him.
Traffic cops then going out for their shift are told "Don't come back without
getting 4 sitters and 5 movers (sitters - parking violations, movers -
speeding motorists). These will turn our to those whose infractions are minor
(doing 25.001mph in a 25 limit etc), who would otherwise have either been
ignored or just given a wigging. All these fines accrue to the local authority
- the city.

To me, this is no more than a shakedown - legalised banditry, and is part of
what contributes to the way their cops are viewed. The takeaways from thsi
are:

1) Keep your police and local politicians well separated

2) Never let the local politicians get their hands on revenue from fines (it's
already bad enough that they have control over parking matters).

--
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:27:48 +0100, JNugent wrote:

> On 12/10/2023 03:52 pm, S Mason wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:35:11 +0100, JNugent wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/10/2023 06:27 am, S Mason wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 02 Oct 2023 20:28:45 -0500, JNugent wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/10/2023 16:55, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 22:49:52 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/10/2023 22:40, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 22:23:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 01/10/2023 11:27, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 10:56:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 20:18, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 18:23:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 16:12, S Mason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:01:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/09/2023 14:30, charles wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <hBURM.181840$MU78.165776@usenetxs.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radio Man <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what all the fuss is about. Why don't "The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Motorists"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just cycle or walk instead? The "Motorists" who are too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too fucked, too fat, too idle, or too up themselves to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walk or to cycle can get a taxi or use the fantastic,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efficient, reasonably priced public transport that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful Conservative party had the foresight to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deregulate and privatise for them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grow Up, Motorists!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to cycle for local journeys but I was knocked off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my bike -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receiving a badly broken arm - I lost my nerve after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. Too many motorist who don't give adequate room when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the roads rind here the LycraLouts™ insist on riding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down the center. They patently have no idea how to control
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bicycle accurately enough with anything less than a 1,5m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gap either side and more if they can arrange it, but of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course they never took a test, have no insurance , and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these days have effective immunity under the Law. Their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very saddles stink with the odour of sanctity of their non
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carbon emittiung bicycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you've got some sort of spittle guard on that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard of yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No spittle. Just *facts*. You know the things that cause you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have a panic attack and cover your ears.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And leap in to mount an *emotional* attack on the people who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> divulge them to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the arse.
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh dear, more emotional fact free responses.
>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>> Darling boy, I made my career as a practising engineer. No a
>>>>>>>>>>> BBC newscaster.
>>>>>>>>>>> Machines respond to facts.
>>>>>>>>>>> Not to idle opinions.
>>>>>>>>>>> I cant make my car do another ten miles by promising it that I
>>>>>>>>>>> will fill up at the next fuel station.
>>>>>>>>>>> If my designs are not cosnsistent with the facts, they dont
>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I said:
>>>>>>>>>>> On the roads rind here the LycraLouts™ insist on riding down
>>>>>>>>>>> the center.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is an actual fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They patently have no idea how to control a bicycle
>>>>>>>>>>> accurately enough with anything less than a 1,5m gap
>>>>>>>>>>> either side and more if they
>>>>>>>>>>> can arrange it,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is also a fact. They are the most selfish road users
>>>>>>>>>>> ever. They have been told how scared they must be of cars but
>>>>>>>>>>> how they can prosecute a driver who doesn't leave a meter gap,
>>>>>>>>>>> which means they can render themselves impossible to overtake,
>>>>>>>>>>> and they do. one mile tailbacks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but of course they never took a test,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> have no insurance ,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and these days have effective immunity under the Law.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Their very saddles stink with the odour of sanctity of
>>>>>>>>>>> their non carbon emitting bicycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Poetic license
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All perfectly legal. I thought you lot liked law and order, or
>>>>>>>>>> is that only when it suits YOU?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Legality does not necessarily equate with good practice.
>>>>>>>>> I see a report in the comic DE that Cambridge, home of the
>>>>>>>>> lightless pavement riding bicycle is the worst town for lethal
>>>>>>>>> traffic accidents.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These are not legal. Neither is cycling the wrong way down a one
>>>>>>>>> way street or lurching off the pavement in front of a car. Or
>>>>>>>>> going round a roundabout the wrong way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would say only one in three cambridge cyclists are fit to be
>>>>>>>>> allowed on the public roads when they decide that the pavement
>>>>>>>>> isn't where they want to be..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking
>>>>>>>> about in your original rant about law abiding cyclists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same old.
>>>>>>> You are becoming a total fucking bore with your pathetic juvenile
>>>>>>> insults whenever you cant make a rational case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *plonk*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And a sore LOOOOOOOOSER TOOOOOOOOOO!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oi! May Sun!
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes... YOU!
>>>>>
>>>>> Aren't you the very same May Sun who has been deceitfully claiming
>>>>> for years that you have a large number of posters killfiled and
>>>>> never see their posts, but then spend hours every week responding in
>>>>> detail to them whilst pretending that you haven't seen them?
>>>>
>>>> No,
>>>
>>> Oh yes... I forgot to add the other apt description of you, May Sun:
>>>
>>> LIAR.
>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>> LOL indeed...
>>>
>>>> Muddleheaded muppet.
>>>
>>> Did you get that? LIAR!
>>>>
>>>>
>> You mental cunt.
>
> That's better!
>
> That's more like the Simon May Sun that everyone knows (but need not
> necessarily love).
>
> BTW: have you done any more flying practice recently?

On 13/10/2023 12:15 pm, Tim Streater wrote:
> On 13 Oct 2023 at 11:30:33 BST, "JNugent" <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/10/2023 06:12 pm, Tim Streater wrote:
>>> On 12 Oct 2023 at 15:30:33 BST, "JNugent" <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/10/2023 05:37 pm, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ho ho, are you really a troll or just playing one, or maybe traininng?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it has become a very good revenue stream to catch people parking or
>>>>> going over the speed limit since the Government have starved local
>>>>> authorities of funding for many years now, and its not all going to be
>>>>> fundable out of council tax or business rates.
>>>>
>>>> Speed limit fines go the Treasury.
>>>
>>> And it's quite right that they should do so.
>>
>> Oh... no argument from me!
>>
>> I'd rather that London speeding fines and FPN receipts went to the
>> Treasury than to Genghis Khan.
>
> It's not a question of disliking some politician or other:

I'll agree to the extent that it doesn't usually happen. But there are
always edge case exceptions.

> it's about getting
> your political structures right. In the US of A, while I lived there, I got a
> speeding ticket and went to traffic school to reduce the fine. This one was
> run, that day, by an off-duty San Francisco cop. As we were about to pack up
> for the day, he said "Any questions?" and a little old lady asked: "Is it true
> that there are quotas?" He thought for a bit, and then said: "Yes, but no one
> would ever admit it publicly."

I have heard this before in respect of certain USA smaller towns or
counties.
> What this was about, I eventually discovered to be as follows: the city is
> running out of money, so the Mayor phones up his mate the Chief of Police
> (elected on the same political ticket), and drops him the hint. The Chief then
> calls down to the head of the Traffic Division, and passes it on to him.
> Traffic cops then going out for their shift are told "Don't come back without
> getting 4 sitters and 5 movers (sitters - parking violations, movers -
> speeding motorists). These will turn our to those whose infractions are minor
> (doing 25.001mph in a 25 limit etc), who would otherwise have either been
> ignored or just given a wigging. All these fines accrue to the local authority
> - the city.
>
> To me, this is no more than a shakedown - legalised banditry, and is part of
> what contributes to the way their cops are viewed. The takeaways from thsi
> are:
>
> 1) Keep your police and local politicians well separated

> 2) Never let the local politicians get their hands on revenue from fines (it's
> already bad enough that they have control over parking matters).
>

On 13/10/23 23:19, JNugent wrote:
> On 13/10/2023 09:06 am, Peter Keller wrote:
>
>> On 13/10/23 03:32, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 01/10/2023 10:40 pm, S Mason wrote:
>>
>>>> [to The Natural Philosopher]:
>>
>>>> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking about
>>>> in your original rant about law abiding cyclists...
>>
>>> ...and all the other fantastic creatures - unicorns, dragons, etc...
>>
>> .. and intelligent non-corrupt ethical politicians --
>> (I am supposed to vote today in our election)
>
> Best of luck, Peter.

Thanks.
No luck, though

On 14/10/2023 09:16 am, Peter Keller wrote:

> On 13/10/23 23:19, JNugent wrote:
>> On 13/10/2023 09:06 am, Peter Keller wrote:
>>> On 13/10/23 03:32, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 01/10/2023 10:40 pm, S Mason wrote:
>
>>>>> [to The Natural Philosopher]:
>
>>>>> Lots of additional spittle-flecked stuff that you weren't talking
>>>>> about in your original rant about law abiding cyclists...
>
>>>> ...and all the other fantastic creatures - unicorns, dragons, etc...
>
>>> .. and intelligent non-corrupt ethical politicians --
>>> (I am supposed to vote today in our election)
>
>> Best of luck, Peter.
>
> Thanks.
> No luck, though

I haven't heard any Australian election results. Just the referendum result.

The NZ elections have been getting some coverage, though.

S Mason <sm@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:27:48 +0100, JNugent wrote:

>> BTW: have you done any more flying practice recently?
>
> I've already told you that I'm not Simon Mason, or May Sun, you leadheaded
> loon.
> .
> Now, take your surfeit of spittle, fuck off, and jump on someone else's
> hook, you deluded Clownfish cunt.
>

Amusing as these childish exchanges aren’t, can it be a coincidence that it
wasn’t that long ago that you posted a test message with your original
email address? It seems you’ve decided to hide your address now but the
temporal association is hard to ignore.

Get help Simon, USENET isn’t your friend when it comes to your mental
health.

Tim

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