On 05/10/2023 12:08, Andy Bennett wrote:
> On 05/10/2023 10:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> Christ, what a dogs breakfast, Nothing works like it did.
>>
>> But I have managed to get a consistent set of fonts, usable colours
>> and download an old fashioned icon set.
>>
>> And make it use default identities. I no longer need an add-on to do
>> the identity managing and the extension was fucking the inbuilt method.
>>
>> Anyone needing  help I *might* be able to aid.
>>
>
> I'm still on 78! If it aint broke etc etc .....

On my office PC I'm still on 60.5.1 having been forced to roll-back on
the subsequent update because it would no longer open up when trying to
e-mail documents from my stand-alone version of QuickBooks.(QB 2015)
No doubt like many other software versions they'll soon make it stop
working with Windows7 too if they haven't already.

On 05/10/2023 10:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Christ, what a dogs breakfast, Nothing works like it did.
>
> But I have managed to get a consistent set of fonts, usable colours and
> download an old fashioned icon set.
>
> And make it use default identities. I no longer need an add-on to do the
> identity managing and the extension was fucking the inbuilt method.
>
> Anyone needing  help I *might* be able to aid.

It took me a while to reset things to make everything acceptable.

With one very big exception that I cannot resolve:
When I select a folder, the old thunderbird would with go to the
first unread message (I think) or certainly go to the same email I had
highlighted the previous time I had the folder open. Now it seems to
open the folder in a random position, even if the same message is selected.

On 10/14/2023 6:18 PM, Fredxx wrote:
> On 05/10/2023 10:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> Christ, what a dogs breakfast, Nothing works like it did.
>>
>> But I have managed to get a consistent set of fonts, usable colours and download an old fashioned icon set.
>>
>> And make it use default identities. I no longer need an add-on to do the identity managing and the extension was fucking the inbuilt method.
>>
>> Anyone needing  help I *might* be able to aid.
>
> It took me a while to reset things to make everything acceptable.
>
> With one very big exception that I cannot resolve:
>   When I select a folder, the old thunderbird would with go to the first unread message (I think) or certainly go to the same email I had highlighted the previous time I had the folder open. Now it seems to open the folder in a random position, even if the same message is selected.
>
>

There are several storage spots (of course).

The .rc file, keeps track of the unread messages. I have trimmed this line
down a bit, as it was too long to post. A tool could pick any arbitrary
portion of this as a marker or as a place to start. the syntax here is
kind of a standard, and has been around since at least 1990 or so.
I added space characters 0x20, to make it easier to read.

uk.d-i-y: 1-1266029, 1266031-1266036, 1266038-1266067, 1266746, 1266751

*******

The USENET in Thunderbird, at a minimum there is the .msf file. That's the Mork file,
and it is a database. And it has a multitude of flags. Some are global
flags for a group, some are flags on a per-message basis (delete flag). That
affords a place to store a "focus" reference, as a global. There are two dumper utilities,
but one is written in Python, complete with version issues. This means if you
dig up the code, you'll have some trouble running it.

I am unaware of a simple web page stating the database schema. You have
to use a dumper, if you want to know. I have edited a .msf with code
(I removed the "VPN flood" from a group, with my code),
but at the time I did that, it turned out I didn't know all the
"tricks" in there. It turns out that Mork supports aliasing for example,
and if a line of text is seen, another part of the file can simply
"link" to the previous line of text. My code didn't handle that.

*******

When you operate a group in "offline/sync" mode, then the body of
the messages is stored in your profile. The header of the message is augmented
with two lines of status fiags. But since not all users operate the
newsreader this way, that would be a poor choice for a "this is the current message"
flag. I had to dig into my archive, to find this example, as none
of these files are in my Profile currently.

From - Sat Mar 13 01:42:46 2021
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
Path: eternal-september.org!...

Since Thunderbird is cross-platform, it cannot cheat and resort to using the Registry.

It has plenty of other files it could use, but their use would not be logical.
For example, I can see some activity in cache2 folder, but I haven't
looked at that in any detail (except to delete it).

Since the usage of the browsing capability is strictly limited by
Thunderbird, it's not likely that files such as "places.sqlite" will
ever grow.

Logically, the flag belongs in a Mork file. And the rate of the
Mork API changing, is pretty low, because nobody likes Mork, and
nobody is going to want to edit the code for it.

Paul

On 05/10/2023 10:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Christ, what a dogs breakfast, Nothing works like it did.
>
> But I have managed to get a consistent set of fonts, usable colours and
> download an old fashioned icon set.
>
> And make it use default identities. I no longer need an add-on to do the
> identity managing and the extension was fucking the inbuilt method.
>
> Anyone needing  help I *might* be able to aid.

Mine has just updated (yesterday), and I thought I might have a major
issue....

Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the
responses, in the reading panel, but if I tried to actually read the
entire post, the reading panel just went completely blank.

It was the same this morning, but in the past few minutes, the posts are
readable, and able to reply as normal.

Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:

> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the
> responses, in the reading panel

That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to
tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.

On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>
>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the
>> responses, in the reading panel
>
> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to
> tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.

Can I say thanks for that as well. seems to have fixed my problems. Odd
when I asked a similar question on the support forums i didn't get an
answer..

Dave

On 15/10/2023 22:00, David Wade wrote:
> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>>
>>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the
>>> responses, in the reading panel
>>
>> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to
>> tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.
>
> Can I say thanks for that as well. seems to have fixed my problems. Odd
> when I asked a similar question on the support forums i didn't get an
> answer..
>
> Dave
Seems to have fixed it for me - it was ridiculous
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On 15/10/2023 01:53, Paul wrote:
> On 10/14/2023 6:18 PM, Fredxx wrote:

<snip>

>> It took me a while to reset things to make everything acceptable.
>>
>> With one very big exception that I cannot resolve: When I select a
>> folder, the old thunderbird would with go to the first unread
>> message (I think) or certainly go to the same email I had
>> highlighted the previous time I had the folder open. Now it seems
>> to open the folder in a random position, even if the same message
>> is selected.
>>
>>
>
> There are several storage spots (of course).
>
> The .rc file, keeps track of the unread messages.

Many thanks.

I've checked that the .rc files and these are only associated with
newsgroups. The issue surrounds the email file folders.

On 16/10/2023 03:40, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Seems to have fixed it for me - it was ridiculous

Have you noticed the the --space signature separator is not displayed in
115 and so anything after the separator often looks as though its part
of the body of the posting.
The separator must be there because on a followup the signature is
automatically removed.

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alan_m wrote:

> Have you noticed the the --space signature separator is not displayed in 115

Do you have the QuoteColours addon installed? that has an option to
display the .sig in grey without the separator

On 16/10/2023 18:57, Andy Burns wrote:
> alan_m wrote:
>
>> Have you noticed the the --space signature separator is not displayed
>> in 115
>
> Do you have the QuoteColours addon installed? that has an option to
> display the .sig in grey without the separator

No, QuoteColours is not installed.

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On 16/10/2023 18:43, alan_m wrote:
> On 16/10/2023 03:40, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> Seems to have fixed it for me - it was ridiculous
>
> Have you noticed the the --space signature separator is not displayed in
> 115 and so anything after the separator often looks as though its part
> of the body of the posting.
> The separator must be  there because on a followup the signature is
> automatically removed.
>

It is here for me.

Possibly you have selected font colours (somehow! Who knows how!) that
match the sig colour

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news paper, you are mis-informed."

Mark Twain

On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>
>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the
>> responses, in the reading panel
>
> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to
> tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.

I guess all the people in the TBird forum don't know about this either.
Mine is now behaving sanely. Many thanks!

(copied there!)

Andy

On 10/18/2023 12:10 PM, Vir Campestris wrote:
> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>>
>>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the
>>> responses, in the reading panel
>>
>> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to
>> tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.
>
> I guess all the people in the TBird forum don't know about this either.
> Mine is now behaving sanely. Many thanks!
>
> (copied there!)
>
> Andy
I'm apparently not in conversation view because all I see is the subject
title of thread, no lines of any of the responses. When I click on a
specific thread posting, the entire posting appears in the reading
panel. That I like.

However, FIFW, my mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads can be set
either to True or False. It doesn't change the fact that every time I
click on the title of a newsgroup, I can either see all threads or only
thread with new messages, but in either case, each thread is fully
expanded. I have to manually hit the "\" key to collapse them. Even
then, leaving TB open, if I select a different newsgroup and then return
to one I've already collapsed, it again displays threads fully expanded.
That, I don't like.

On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>>
>>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the responses, in the reading panel
>>
>> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.
>
> I guess all the people in the TBird forum don't know about this either. Mine is now behaving sanely. Many thanks!
>
> (copied there!)
>
> Andy
You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers in the thread pane to collapsed / expanded.
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Al

On 2023-10-19 05:13, Big Al wrote:
> On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
>> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>>>
>>>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the
>>>> responses, in the reading panel
>>>
>>> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to
>>> tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
>>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.
>>
>> I guess all the people in the TBird forum don't know about this
>> either. Mine is now behaving sanely. Many thanks!
>>
>> (copied there!)
>>
>> Andy
> You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers in the
> thread pane to collapsed / expanded.

What is that 'twisty', do you have a photo or screenshot?

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On 19/10/2023 04:13, Big Al wrote:
> On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
>> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>>>
>>>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the
>>>> responses, in the reading panel
>>>
>>> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to
>>> tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
>>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.
>>
>> I guess all the people in the TBird forum don't know about this
>> either. Mine is now behaving sanely. Many thanks!
>>
>> (copied there!)
>>
>> Andy
> You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers in the
> thread pane to collapsed / expanded.
If the view is set to unread threads, and there is only one unread item
in the thread, this does not work, as there is nothing to expand as the
unread items are hidden.

The read and unread items show in the summary window, and trying to open
the item opens every message in the thread...

Dave.

On 10/19/23 05:26 AM, this is what Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-10-19 05:13, Big Al wrote:
>> On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the responses, in the reading panel
>>>>
>>>> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
>>>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.
>>>
>>> I guess all the people in the TBird forum don't know about this either. Mine is now behaving sanely. Many thanks!
>>>
>>> (copied there!)
>>>
>>> Andy
>> You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers in the thread pane to collapsed / expanded.
>
> What is that 'twisty', do you have a photo or screenshot?
>
https://postimg.cc/qgQ29WGv
It's at the beginning of every expandable item practically everywhere in TB. In this pic it's a down arrow. I changed
the icon via css. It looks like a 'v' otherwise. If I collapse the threads it changes to -> an arrow pointing right.
It twists as you click it, thus the term twisty. This is a TB term used the DOM/programmers stuff.
You see it in front of your news servers, local folders etc so you can expand and collapse them.
Same with Windows folders in the side bar. 'This PC' has one, if you hit it, it will expand/collapse all the drives. The
item is used a lot of places in most Windows and Linux, not sure of MAC.
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Al

On 10/19/23 07:28 AM, this is what David Wade wrote:
> On 19/10/2023 04:13, Big Al wrote:
>> On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of the responses, in the reading panel
>>>>
>>>> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
>>>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.
>>>
>>> I guess all the people in the TBird forum don't know about this either. Mine is now behaving sanely. Many thanks!
>>>
>>> (copied there!)
>>>
>>> Andy
>> You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers in the thread pane to collapsed / expanded.
> If the view is set to unread threads, and there is only one unread item in the thread, this does not work, as there is
> nothing to expand as the unread items are hidden.
>
> The read and unread items show in the summary window, and trying to open the item opens every message in the thread...
>
> Dave.
I used unread/threaded. So one unread shows the entire thread. I myself wish to see some of the previous comments, so
I want the thread, but that's me. So the twisty works in my case. If you feel it's a bug, try posting a bug on
bugzilla.mozilla.org.
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Al

On 2023-10-19 13:30, Big Al wrote:
> On 10/19/23 05:26 AM, this is what Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2023-10-19 05:13, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
>>>> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of
>>>>>> the responses, in the reading panel
>>>>>
>>>>> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to
>>>>> tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
>>>>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.
>>>>
>>>> I guess all the people in the TBird forum don't know about this
>>>> either. Mine is now behaving sanely. Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>> (copied there!)
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>> You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers in
>>> the thread pane to collapsed / expanded.
>>
>> What is that 'twisty', do you have a photo or screenshot?
>>
> https://postimg.cc/qgQ29WGv
> It's at the beginning of every expandable item practically everywhere in
> TB.  In this pic it's a down arrow.  I changed the icon via css. It
> looks like a 'v' otherwise.   If I collapse the threads it changes to ->
> an arrow pointing right. It twists as you click it, thus the term
> twisty.  This is a TB term used the DOM/programmers stuff.
> You see it in front of your news servers, local folders etc so you can
> expand and collapse them.

Ah, of course. But it collapses/expand just one thread.

> Same with Windows folders in the side bar. 'This PC' has one, if you hit
> it, it will expand/collapse all the drives. The item is used a lot of
> places in most Windows and Linux, not sure of MAC.

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On 19/10/2023 13:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-10-19 13:30, Big Al wrote:
>> On 10/19/23 05:26 AM, this is what Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2023-10-19 05:13, Big Al wrote:
>>>> On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
>>>>> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>>> Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clicking to read a thread, it would show a few lines of some of
>>>>>>> the responses, in the reading panel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's called "conversation view", if you don't like it, go to
>>>>>> tools/settings/config editor and change the value of
>>>>>> mail.operate_on_msgs_in_collapsed_threads to false.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess all the people in the TBird forum don't know about this
>>>>> either. Mine is now behaving sanely. Many thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> (copied there!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>> You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers in
>>>> the thread pane to collapsed / expanded.
>>>
>>> What is that 'twisty', do you have a photo or screenshot?
>>>
>> https://postimg.cc/qgQ29WGv
>> It's at the beginning of every expandable item practically everywhere
>> in TB.  In this pic it's a down arrow.  I changed the icon via css. It
>> looks like a 'v' otherwise.   If I collapse the threads it changes to
>> -> an arrow pointing right. It twists as you click it, thus the term
>> twisty.  This is a TB term used the DOM/programmers stuff.
>> You see it in front of your news servers, local folders etc so you can
>> expand and collapse them.
>
> Ah, of course. But it collapses/expand just one thread.
>
* does the lot

>> Same with Windows folders in the side bar. 'This PC' has one, if you
>> hit it, it will expand/collapse all the drives. The item is used a lot
>> of places in most Windows and Linux, not sure of MAC.
>

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true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

On 2023-10-19 14:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 19/10/2023 13:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2023-10-19 13:30, Big Al wrote:
>>> On 10/19/23 05:26 AM, this is what Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2023-10-19 05:13, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:

....

>>>>>> Andy
>>>>> You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers in
>>>>> the thread pane to collapsed / expanded.
>>>>
>>>> What is that 'twisty', do you have a photo or screenshot?
>>>>
>>> https://postimg.cc/qgQ29WGv
>>> It's at the beginning of every expandable item practically everywhere
>>> in TB.  In this pic it's a down arrow.  I changed the icon via css.
>>> It looks like a 'v' otherwise.   If I collapse the threads it changes
>>> to -> an arrow pointing right. It twists as you click it, thus the
>>> term twisty.  This is a TB term used the DOM/programmers stuff.
>>> You see it in front of your news servers, local folders etc so you
>>> can expand and collapse them.
>>
>> Ah, of course. But it collapses/expand just one thread.
>>
> * does the lot

I know. * expands, \ collapses.

But I thought, reading this thread, that there was a mouse click
somewhere that did the same.

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Carlos E.R.

On 10/19/23 11:06 AM, this is what Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-10-19 14:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 19/10/2023 13:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2023-10-19 13:30, Big Al wrote:
>>>> On 10/19/23 05:26 AM, this is what Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-10-19 05:13, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>
> ...
>
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers in the thread pane to collapsed / expanded.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is that 'twisty', do you have a photo or screenshot?
>>>>>
>>>> https://postimg.cc/qgQ29WGv
>>>> It's at the beginning of every expandable item practically everywhere in TB.  In this pic it's a down arrow.  I
>>>> changed the icon via css. It looks like a 'v' otherwise.   If I collapse the threads it changes to -> an arrow
>>>> pointing right. It twists as you click it, thus the term twisty.  This is a TB term used the DOM/programmers stuff.
>>>> You see it in front of your news servers, local folders etc so you can expand and collapse them.
>>>
>>> Ah, of course. But it collapses/expand just one thread.
>>>
>> * does the lot
>
> I know. * expands, \ collapses.
>
> But I thought, reading this thread, that there was a mouse click somewhere that did the same.
>
So you say you don't have the twisty like this, see arrow.
https://i.postimg.cc/W3X5F0q1/Thread-collapsed.png
and when clicked you get this, see arrow.
https://i.postimg.cc/SRRDWjc7/Thread-expanded.png
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Al

On 19/10/2023 17:27, Big Al wrote:
> On 10/19/23 11:06 AM, this is what Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2023-10-19 14:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 19/10/2023 13:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2023-10-19 13:30, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> On 10/19/23 05:26 AM, this is what Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-10-19 05:13, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>> You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers
>>>>>>> in the thread pane to collapsed / expanded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is that 'twisty', do you have a photo or screenshot?
>>>>>>
>>>>> https://postimg.cc/qgQ29WGv
>>>>> It's at the beginning of every expandable item practically
>>>>> everywhere in TB.  In this pic it's a down arrow.  I changed the
>>>>> icon via css. It looks like a 'v' otherwise.   If I collapse the
>>>>> threads it changes to -> an arrow pointing right. It twists as you
>>>>> click it, thus the term twisty.  This is a TB term used the
>>>>> DOM/programmers stuff.
>>>>> You see it in front of your news servers, local folders etc so you
>>>>> can expand and collapse them.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, of course. But it collapses/expand just one thread.
>>>>
>>> * does the lot
>>
>> I know. * expands, \ collapses.
>>
>> But I thought, reading this thread, that there was a mouse click
>> somewhere that did the same.
>>
> So you say you don't have the twisty like this, see arrow.
> https://i.postimg.cc/W3X5F0q1/Thread-collapsed.png
> and when clicked you get this, see arrow.

If you want that on the toolbar right click on the tool bar and from the
list of things that cam be displayed on the toolbar select "thread"

> https://i.postimg.cc/SRRDWjc7/Thread-expanded.png

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On 2023-10-19 18:27, Big Al wrote:
> On 10/19/23 11:06 AM, this is what Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2023-10-19 14:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 19/10/2023 13:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 2023-10-19 13:30, Big Al wrote:
>>>>> On 10/19/23 05:26 AM, this is what Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-10-19 05:13, Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/18/23 12:10 PM, this is what Vir Campestris wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 15/10/2023 20:01, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>> You can also click on the little 'twisty' to toggle the headers
>>>>>>> in the thread pane to collapsed / expanded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is that 'twisty', do you have a photo or screenshot?
>>>>>>
>>>>> https://postimg.cc/qgQ29WGv
>>>>> It's at the beginning of every expandable item practically
>>>>> everywhere in TB.  In this pic it's a down arrow.  I changed the
>>>>> icon via css. It looks like a 'v' otherwise.   If I collapse the
>>>>> threads it changes to -> an arrow pointing right. It twists as you
>>>>> click it, thus the term twisty.  This is a TB term used the
>>>>> DOM/programmers stuff.
>>>>> You see it in front of your news servers, local folders etc so you
>>>>> can expand and collapse them.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, of course. But it collapses/expand just one thread.
>>>>
>>> * does the lot
>>
>> I know. * expands, \ collapses.
>>
>> But I thought, reading this thread, that there was a mouse click
>> somewhere that did the same.
>>
> So you say you don't have the twisty like this, see arrow.
> https://i.postimg.cc/W3X5F0q1/Thread-collapsed.png
> and when clicked you get this, see arrow.
> https://i.postimg.cc/SRRDWjc7/Thread-expanded.png

Yes, I have them.

I just thought, wrongly, that you were talking about somewhere to click
with the mouse and it would collapse/expand *all* threads. An equivalent
of the '\' or '*' keys.

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.