On Friday 22 December 2023 at 11:33:13 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> ...turning on the cold tap and waiting for hot water to come out ;-)

It is also, turning on the Top Oven then putting pizza in the Big Oven and wondering why it's not cooked.

Owain

In message <e4dd8296-f766-4363-a314-d1459038535dn@googlegroups.com>,
Owain Lastname <spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com> writes
>On Friday 22 December 2023 at 11:33:13 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> ...turning on the cold tap and waiting for hot water to come out ;-)
>
>It is also, turning on the Top Oven then putting pizza in the Big Oven
>and wondering why it's not cooked.

Not done that yet. Tap positions are remembered by the numbers of
letters! Cold/right 4/5. Hot/left 3/4!

A birthday card with the right sentiment. Apparently I will be 21 with
59 years experience:-)

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Tim Lamb

Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:
> On 23/12/2023 14:57, Fredxx wrote:
> > On 23/12/2023 14:17, Max Demian wrote:
> >> On 22/12/2023 22:29, Colin Bignell wrote:
> >>> On 22/12/2023 21:07, NY wrote:
> >>
> >>>> *Is* there a standard for the placement of hot and cold taps?
> >>>
> >>> In the USA there is and it is recommended in the UK. The cold should
> >>> be on the right, as most people are right handed. That way, a blind
> >>> or partially sighted person is more likely to turn on the cold first,
> >>> reducing the risk of scalding. It is quite theoretical and far from
> >>> universal. My house has the hot on the right, but, given the time it
> >>> takes for the hot water to come through, scalding is not really a risk.
> > >
> >> Do you have any documentary evidence for that explanation? (The matter
> >> has been discussed here before.)
> >
> > A fuller explanation is here:
> >   https://www.plumbworld.co.uk/blog/hot-bathroom-tap-on-the-left-or-right
>
> That is one of those that I found saying much the same things. However,
> these days, if there is any genuine risk of scalding the answer would be
> to fit a temperature regulating valve to the hot water side.
>
But I *want* my hot water to be too hot to put my hands in! It always
was thus in my youth and that's the wayit should be.

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Chris Green
·

On 23/12/2023 20:51, Chris Green wrote:
> Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 23/12/2023 14:57, Fredxx wrote:
>>> On 23/12/2023 14:17, Max Demian wrote:
>>>> On 22/12/2023 22:29, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>>>> On 22/12/2023 21:07, NY wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> *Is* there a standard for the placement of hot and cold taps?
>>>>>
>>>>> In the USA there is and it is recommended in the UK. The cold should
>>>>> be on the right, as most people are right handed. That way, a blind
>>>>> or partially sighted person is more likely to turn on the cold first,
>>>>> reducing the risk of scalding. It is quite theoretical and far from
>>>>> universal. My house has the hot on the right, but, given the time it
>>>>> takes for the hot water to come through, scalding is not really a risk.
>>> >
>>>> Do you have any documentary evidence for that explanation? (The matter
>>>> has been discussed here before.)
>>>
>>> A fuller explanation is here:
>>>   https://www.plumbworld.co.uk/blog/hot-bathroom-tap-on-the-left-or-right
>>
>> That is one of those that I found saying much the same things. However,
>> these days, if there is any genuine risk of scalding the answer would be
>> to fit a temperature regulating valve to the hot water side.
>>
> But I *want* my hot water to be too hot to put my hands in! It always
> was thus in my youth and that's the wayit should be.
>

So long as that is what you want and you retain the ability both to
recognise the water as being too hot and to remove your body parts from
it when you do, not a problem.

--
Colin Bignell

On 23/12/2023 19:37, Owain Lastname wrote:
> On Friday 22 December 2023 at 11:33:13 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> ...turning on the cold tap and waiting for hot water to come out ;-)
>
> It is also, turning on the Top Oven then putting pizza in the Big Oven and wondering why it's not cooked.
>
> Owain
>

I thought that unless your top oven gets up to about 400C,
your pizza isn't going to cook properly anyway ?.

On 24/12/2023 15:27, Andrew wrote:
> On 23/12/2023 19:37, Owain Lastname wrote:
>> On Friday 22 December 2023 at 11:33:13 UTC, The Natural Philosopher
>> wrote:
>>> ...turning on the cold tap and waiting for hot water to come out ;-)
>>
>> It is also, turning on the Top Oven then putting pizza in the Big Oven
>> and wondering why it's not cooked.
>>
>> Owain
>>
>
> I thought that unless your top oven gets up to about 400C,
> your pizza isn't going to cook properly anyway ?.

The frozen ones I buy cook at 180C.

--
Colin Bignell

On 23/12/2023 17:40, Max Demian wrote:

> With only one tap, I would have thought you would put it in the middle
> for symmetry.

I've found that with smaller bathroom type sinks placing the single
(mixer) tap in the middle restricts access when trying to rinse hair
etc. You cannot get your head low enough, without hitting thee tap, to
douse the head with water without it ending on the floor. Possibly even
a bigger problem if people fit some of the designer type taps with
longer or wider spouts such as waterfall taps :) Having a single tap to
one side would give better access to the basin.

It's little things like this I hadn't considered when buying bathroom
fittings.

I biggest mistake I once made was buying a "modern" square shaped
toilet, but later rectified with a replacement traditional shaped toilet.

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On 24/12/2023 16:21, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 24/12/2023 15:27, Andrew wrote:
>> On 23/12/2023 19:37, Owain Lastname wrote:
>>> On Friday 22 December 2023 at 11:33:13 UTC, The Natural Philosopher
>>> wrote:
>>>> ...turning on the cold tap and waiting for hot water to come out ;-)
>>>
>>> It is also, turning on the Top Oven then putting pizza in the Big
>>> Oven and wondering why it's not cooked.
>>>
>>> Owain
>>>
>>
>> I thought that unless your top oven gets up to about 400C,
>> your pizza isn't going to cook properly anyway ?.
>
> The frozen ones I buy cook at 180C.
>
I cook my home mades about that. Not uber crispy, but very tasty

--
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to
rule.
– H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956

On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 11:33:08 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>...turning on the cold tap and waiting for hot water to come out ;-)

Or to be seniler than thou, turning on the hot tap and waiting for it
to run cold.
--

Mike

On 24/12/2023 17:35, alan_m wrote:
> On 23/12/2023 17:40, Max Demian wrote:
>
>> With only one tap, I would have thought you would put it in the middle
>> for symmetry.
>
> I've found that with smaller bathroom type sinks placing the single
> (mixer) tap in the middle restricts access when trying to rinse hair
> etc. You cannot get your head low enough, without hitting thee tap, to
> douse the head with water without it ending on the floor. Possibly even
> a bigger problem if people fit some of the designer type taps with
> longer or wider spouts such as waterfall taps :)  Having a single tap to
> one side would give better access to the basin.

I would have thought you would always rinse (or wet) your hair with a
nozzle on the end of a hose. Such as a shower hose. I expect domestic
versions exist of the kind of basin+hose found in hairdressers.

> It's little things like this I hadn't considered when buying bathroom
> fittings.
>
> I biggest mistake I once made was buying a "modern" square shaped
> toilet, but later rectified with a replacement traditional shaped toilet.

What are they like to sit on? Do you need a square bum?

--
Max Demian

On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 11:55:34 +0000, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>On 24/12/2023 17:35, alan_m wrote:
>> On 23/12/2023 17:40, Max Demian wrote:
>>
>>> With only one tap, I would have thought you would put it in the middle
>>> for symmetry.
>>
>> I've found that with smaller bathroom type sinks placing the single
>> (mixer) tap in the middle restricts access when trying to rinse hair
>> etc. You cannot get your head low enough, without hitting thee tap, to
>> douse the head with water without it ending on the floor. Possibly even
>> a bigger problem if people fit some of the designer type taps with
>> longer or wider spouts such as waterfall taps :)  Having a single tap to
>> one side would give better access to the basin.
>
>I would have thought you would always rinse (or wet) your hair with a
>nozzle on the end of a hose. Such as a shower hose. I expect domestic
>versions exist of the kind of basin+hose found in hairdressers.
>
>> It's little things like this I hadn't considered when buying bathroom
>> fittings.
>>
>> I biggest mistake I once made was buying a "modern" square shaped
>> toilet, but later rectified with a replacement traditional shaped toilet.
>
>What are they like to sit on? Do you need a square bum?

Only if you're Michael Bentine

--
Chris

On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 22:55:34 +1100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

> On 24/12/2023 17:35, alan_m wrote:
>> On 23/12/2023 17:40, Max Demian wrote:
>>
>>> With only one tap, I would have thought you would put it in the middle
>>> for symmetry.
>> I've found that with smaller bathroom type sinks placing the single
>> (mixer) tap in the middle restricts access when trying to rinse hair
>> etc. You cannot get your head low enough, without hitting thee tap, to
>> douse the head with water without it ending on the floor. Possibly even
>> a bigger problem if people fit some of the designer type taps with
>> longer or wider spouts such as waterfall taps :) Having a single tap
>> to one side would give better access to the basin.
>
> I would have thought you would always rinse (or wet) your hair with a
> nozzle on the end of a hose. Such as a shower hose. I expect domestic
> versions exist of the kind of basin+hose found in hairdressers.
>
>> It's little things like this I hadn't considered when buying bathroom
>> fittings.
>> I biggest mistake I once made was buying a "modern" square shaped
>> toilet, but later rectified with a replacement traditional shaped
>> toilet.
>
> What are they like to sit on? Do you need a square bum?

There have always been some squares.