Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote

> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?

Yep

> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

Yep.

> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

Just because some silly cow claims something...

On 12/27/2023 7:54 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>
> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>

What I find interesting, is a Google search on the guys name,
allows 19 pages of results to come back. I'm never allowed
19 pages of results in the year 2023. Some days, I get one page
of results and that is it.

In the 19 pages, I see absolutely no rebuttal. It appears
no one is interested in writing a rebuttal. Or, for some
reason, the Google result does not include rebuttals.

I have to do one of these. It only went to 10 pages. No snopes
results came back.

snopes Angus Dalgleish

One of the problems with making anecdotal claims, is without
a submitted paper to comment on, there's no real interest
in just yacking. No one wants to Gish Gallop with the guy.

Once you write a paper, that is accepted into a journal, then...
you get feedback. First there is peer review. Then... there
is anecdotal commentary and media feedback, once you produce
a result of note.

You can write papers which are meta-studies, and use the
selected results of a lot of other research, to draw conclusions.
Valuable science can be done that way. No soap box needed.

*******

This is an example of an animal study. Notice, that the experimenter
does not "jump to any conclusions" nor "run down the street with hair on fire".
There are some offhand comments about previous (non-mRNA) vaccines
also having interesting side effects.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10183601/

Now, that's how you do science. And that particular item, is effectively
a call to others, to do their own well-designed animal study. The
experimenter in that paper, does not have a proposed mechanism. And that's
why they did the post-mortem workup, to collect as many useful
observations as possible. Others will build on that work (one way
or another).

Paul

On 28/12/2023 00:54, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
I already had one
> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>
It is irrelevant.

> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

Oh dear oh dear.

--
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have
forgotten your aim."

George Santayana

On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom
<cd@notformail.com> wrote in <0khpoipdasq1i45i0cvpcfkmt72t83tc5s@4ax.com>:

>Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>
>https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

Yes, it is the US Medical Industrial Complex
making dangerous stuff in far from their bed locations (other countries)
to increase sales of dangerous snake oil vaccines.
It is _capitalism_ at its worst,
just like the US Military Industrial Complex is creating wars in many far from their bed locations
to increase weapon sales.
For the true capitalist human lives are irrelevant and only dollars count.
Pity dollars are no longer coupled to gold and they are still making a loss
and is kept going by taxing the poor so the poor have to live on the streets
CIA pawn nethanyahoo had as task to provoke Hamas so more war would start
and more US weapons could be sold.
US demon-crates have used and played the masses even as cannon food, all through history.
FREE yourself, revolt!!!

On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>
> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

Righttarded fruitcake.

On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>
>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>
> Righttarded fruitcake.
>
No, just a fruitcake.

The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she listens to the BBC and
reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).

Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making money,
and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be
in the Communist party.

De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
by telling tales about its government.

The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain with
Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change,
immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general
anything they take a political stance on.

If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what reason
would they have to exist any more?

Look at UKIP...

--
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>
>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>
> Righttarded fruitcake.
>

I got as far as this:

"First the ‘vaccine’ did not stay at the site of injection as promised
but travelled throughout the body and were found at post-mortems to be
everywhere. "

Nobody promised that the vaccines would stay at the point of injection.
How could they work if they did that?

If that is the standard of this guy's pseudo-scientific work, you can
see why nobody reputable would publish his 2020 paper, which he claims
was suppressed.

On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>
>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>
>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>
> No, just a fruitcake.
>
> The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
> qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
> most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
> most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
> know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
> position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
> sister remark 'on which websites you read'  (she listens to the BBC and
> reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).
>
> Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making money,
> and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
> It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be
> in the Communist party.
>
> De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
> by telling tales about its government.
>
> The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.
>
> E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain with
> Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
> for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change,
> immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general
> anything they take a political stance on.
>
> If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
> fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*,  what reason
> would they have to exist any more?

If they demonstrated competence in solving the problem, then they'd have
demonstrated that they would likely be competent to solve other problems
and therefore be eminently re-electable. The trouble is none of the
parties shows any competence and even where they do start to work on a
problem, the end point is so far down the line that the next government
cancels the work on it or takes the credit for the result.

On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>
>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>
>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>
> No, just a fruitcake.

Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'

I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
right wing views.

>
> The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
> qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
> most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
> most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
> know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
> position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
> sister remark 'on which websites you read'  (she listens to the BBC and
> reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).
>
> Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making money,
> and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
> It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be
> in the Communist party.
>
> De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
> by telling tales about its government.
>
> The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.
>
> E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain with
> Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
> for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change,
> immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general
> anything they take a political stance on.
>
> If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
> fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*,  what reason
> would they have to exist any more?
>
> Look at UKIP...
>
>
>

--
Colin Bignell

On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
> > Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
> >> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
> >>
> >> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
> >
> > Righttarded fruitcake.
> >
> No, just a fruitcake.
>
> The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
> qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy
> - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
> salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing,
> because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their
> salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid
> leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she
> listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well
> misinformed).
>
> Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
> money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not
> right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people
> who used to be in the Communist party.
>
> De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
> within by telling tales about its government.
>
> The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.
>
> E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
> with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the
> Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate
> change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in
> general anything they take a political stance on.
>
> If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we
> will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what
> reason would they have to exist any more?
>
> Look at UKIP...
>
>

Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?

On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
<cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

>On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>>
>>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>>
>> No, just a fruitcake.
>
>Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:
>
>'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
>problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'
>
>I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
>right wing views.

What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
time later.

>
>>
>> The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
>> qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
>> most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
>> most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
>> know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
>> position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
>> sister remark 'on which websites you read'  (she listens to the BBC and
>> reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).
>>
>> Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making money,
>> and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
>> It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be
>> in the Communist party.
>>
>> De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
>> by telling tales about its government.
>>
>> The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.
>>
>> E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain with
>> Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
>> for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change,
>> immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general
>> anything they take a political stance on.
>>
>> If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
>> fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*,  what reason
>> would they have to exist any more?
>>
>> Look at UKIP...
>>
>>
>>

On 12/28/23 15:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>>>
>>>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>>>
>>> No, just a fruitcake.
>>
>> Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:
>>
>> 'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
>> problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'
>>
>> I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
>> right wing views.
>
> What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
> concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
> dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
> time later.

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc. One of the better known errors
of reasoning.

Jeroen Belleman

On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>>>
>>>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>>>
>>> No, just a fruitcake.
>>
>> Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:
>>
>> 'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
>> problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'
>>
>> I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
>> right wing views.
>
> What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
> concerned about the vaccines. ...

I agree that there are nutters everywhere, but the point being discussed
was political leanings of that particular site.

--
Colin Bignell

On 28/12/2023 12:55, SteveW wrote:
> On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>>
>>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>>
>> No, just a fruitcake.
>>
>> The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
>> qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy
>> - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
>> salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing,
>> because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their
>> salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid
>> leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you read'  (she
>> listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well
>> misinformed).
>>
>> Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
>> money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right
>> wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who
>> used to be in the Communist party.
>>
>> De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
>> within by telling tales about its government.
>>
>> The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.
>>
>> E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
>> with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the
>> Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate
>> change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in
>> general anything they take a political stance on.
>>
>> If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
>> fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*,  what reason
>> would they have to exist any more?
>
> If they demonstrated competence in solving the problem, then they'd have
> demonstrated that they would likely be competent to solve other problems
> and therefore be eminently re-electable. The trouble is none of the
> parties shows any competence and even where they do start to work on a
> problem, the end point is so far down the line that the next government
> cancels the work on it or takes the credit for the result.
>
>
Amen to all that.

Which is why the hidden secret state of corrupt Whitehall and Brussels
mandarins got all the power and the politicians merely were allowed to
sell what *they* decided to do as best they could.

The best government is the least government that can maintain law and order.
Today's government is the most government the taxpayer can stand without
riots in the streets, and fuck law and order.

--
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>>
>>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>>
>> No, just a fruitcake.
>>
>> The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
>> qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy
>> - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
>> salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing,
>> because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their
>> salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid
>> leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she
>> listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well
>> misinformed).
>>
>> Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
>> money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not
>> right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people
>> who used to be in the Communist party.
>>
>> De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
>> within by telling tales about its government.
>>
>> The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.
>>
>> E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
>> with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the
>> Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate
>> change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in
>> general anything they take a political stance on.
>>
>> If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we
>> will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what
>> reason would they have to exist any more?
>>
>> Look at UKIP...
>>
>>
>
> Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
>
I don't answer leading questions.
When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

(shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )

>
>

--
“Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of
other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

- John K Galbraith

On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> There are people on the Left who are equally
> concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
> dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
> time later.

Is plowcunt dead? I had him killfiled so I never noticed. And how did
you know what he died of?

--
“Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of
other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

- John K Galbraith

On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 01:10:27 +1100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>>>
>>>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>>>
>>> No, just a fruitcake.
>>
>> Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:
>>
>> 'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
>> problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our
>> liberty.'
>>
>> I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
>> right wing views.
>
> What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
> concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
> dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
> time later.

It was the prostate cancer that killed him, not the vaccination.

>>> The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
>>> qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
>>> most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
>>> most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
>>> know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
>>> position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
>>> sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she listens to the BBC and
>>> reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).
>>>
>>> Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
>>> money,
>>> and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
>>> It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be
>>> in the Communist party.
>>>
>>> De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
>>> by telling tales about its government.
>>>
>>> The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.
>>>
>>> E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
>>> with
>>> Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
>>> for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change,
>>> immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general
>>> anything they take a political stance on.
>>>
>>> If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
>>> fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what reason
>>> would they have to exist any more?
>>>
>>> Look at UKIP...
>>>
>>>

On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 04:02:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 01:10:27 +1100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
>> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>>>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>>>>
>>>>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>>>>
>>>> No, just a fruitcake.
>>>
>>> Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:
>>>
>>> 'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
>>> problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our
>>> liberty.'
>>>
>>> I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
>>> right wing views.
>>
>> What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
>> concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
>> dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
>> time later.
>
>It was the prostate cancer that killed him, not the vaccination.

Wrong as ever, my antipodean friend. Bowel cancer actually - which had
been successfully treated until he had his covid jab. Flared up again
shortly after. Poor bastard.

>
>>>> The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
>>>> qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
>>>> most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
>>>> most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
>>>> know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
>>>> position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
>>>> sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she listens to the BBC and
>>>> reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).
>>>>
>>>> Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
>>>> money,
>>>> and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
>>>> It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be
>>>> in the Communist party.
>>>>
>>>> De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
>>>> by telling tales about its government.
>>>>
>>>> The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.
>>>>
>>>> E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
>>>> with
>>>> Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
>>>> for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change,
>>>> immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general
>>>> anything they take a political stance on.
>>>>
>>>> If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
>>>> fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what reason
>>>> would they have to exist any more?
>>>>
>>>> Look at UKIP...
>>>>
>>>>

On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:02:06 +0000, Colin Bignell
<cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

>On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
>> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>>>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>>>>
>>>>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>>>>
>>>> No, just a fruitcake.
>>>
>>> Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:
>>>
>>> 'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
>>> problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'
>>>
>>> I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
>>> right wing views.
>>
>> What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
>> concerned about the vaccines. ...
>
>I agree that there are nutters everywhere, but the point being discussed
>was political leanings of that particular site.

Er, no. What was being discussed was the emerging link between mRNA
vaccines and cancer (see the subject line!) It was you and "Steve" who
as usual were attempting your usual Marxist tactic of diverting the
thread into something completely different.

On 28/12/2023 17:13, Cursitor Doom wrote:

> Wrong as ever, my antipodean friend. Bowel cancer actually - which had
> been successfully treated until he had his covid jab. Flared up again
> shortly after. Poor bastard.

I can well understand that people with cancer unfortunately die. The
time of their dying may coincide with other things. Christmas, for
example. Some people with cancer die soon after Christmas, but only an
utter lunatic would claim that Christmas causes cancer to flare up.

On 28/12/2023 17:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:

> Er, no. What was being discussed was the emerging link between mRNA
> vaccines and cancer

There's no emerging link, just a fringe article in a non-scientific
magazine. When you have some worthwhile evidence, there'll be something
to discuss.

The medical and scientific professions are happy to keep an open mind
about mRNA vaccines, but they need evidence to work on. How about you
also keeping an open mind?

On 28/12/2023 17:13, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 04:02:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 01:10:27 +1100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>> wrote:

>>> What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
>>> concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
>>> dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
>>> time later.
>>
>> It was the prostate cancer that killed him, not the vaccination.
>
> Wrong as ever, my antipodean friend. Bowel cancer actually - which had
> been successfully treated until he had his covid jab. Flared up again
> shortly after. Poor bastard.
>
My friend died of bowel cancer in 2017 but that was before Covid.

Another friend died of it back in 2013.

I think you are the only fruitcake who has ever claimed a link between
Covid vaccinations and bowel cancer recurrence.

You will be telling me there is a link between CO2 emissions and
climate, next,

--
Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!

On 28/12/2023 17:19, GB wrote:
> On 28/12/2023 17:13, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>
>
>> Wrong as ever, my antipodean friend. Bowel cancer actually - which had
>> been successfully treated until he had his covid jab. Flared up again
>> shortly after. Poor bastard.
>
>
> I can well understand that people with cancer unfortunately die. The
> time of their dying may coincide with other things. Christmas, for
> example. Some people with cancer die soon after Christmas, but only an
> utter lunatic would claim that Christmas causes cancer to flare up.
>
>
I think you could probably get a government grant to investigate that,
especially if you linked it to 'climate change'.

--
"First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your
oppressors."
- George Orwell

On 28/12/2023 17:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:02:06 +0000, Colin Bignell
> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
>>> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
>>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
>>>>>>> Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Righttarded fruitcake.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, just a fruitcake.
>>>>
>>>> Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:
>>>>
>>>> 'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
>>>> problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'
>>>>
>>>> I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
>>>> right wing views.
>>>
>>> What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
>>> concerned about the vaccines. ...
>>
>> I agree that there are nutters everywhere, but the point being discussed
>> was political leanings of that particular site.
>
> Er, no. What was being discussed was the emerging link between mRNA
> vaccines and cancer (see the subject line!) It was you and "Steve" who
> as usual were attempting your usual Marxist tactic of diverting the
> thread into something completely different.

The reality of Usenet is that threads diverge into other areas,
particularly, as in this case, they start with total rubbish.

--
Colin Bignell