ogden wrote:

> I'd suggest doing another one, but is it just you and me around
> London these days?

I think so but Steve has his senior railcard, now he's retired.

--
Simon

On Monday, 8 August 2022 at 16:16:17 UTC+1, sweller wrote:
> ogden wrote:
>
> > I'd suggest doing another one, but is it just you and me around
> > London these days?
> I think so but Steve has his senior railcard, now he's retired.

Hmm. 18 months until I qualify for one of those I think.

On 8/5/2022 7:33 AM, Mark Olson wrote:
>
>
> https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/kawasaki/motorcycle/2018/zx1002ajf-ninja-h2-sx/owner-s-tools
>

Harumpf. Apparently they don't carry an FJR tool kit.

https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2008/fjr-1300a-fjr13axb

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 23:22:22 +0100, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 07/08/2022 11:12, Pipl wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 02:09:08 +0100, petrolcan <petrolcan@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <48btehddc6k6hm899jg125lpucqgho673e@4ax.com>, Pipl says...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, absolutely. 'Er Ladyships Vauxhall requires half the front bumper
>>>> undoing, as you say.
>>>
>>> Vectra?
>>
>> Yup!
>
>Bastard piles of shit. Has yours flooded the passenger footwell yet?

No, never did in >230K miles. Apart from the indicator, the windscreen
blower fan went twice (been dead for at least a couple of years);
radiator finally split a few weeks ago, held up until today with K
Seal; wiper linkage broke, replaced from scrap yard; a particularoy
large pothole broke the glove box, now held together with ally plate
and rivets; exhaust heatshield needed repair washers after the
mounting holes cracked oversize; driver's door window no longer opens;
driver's door has to be locked manually. But most of those things were
well after 150K miles.

--

-Pip

On 07/08/2022 23:22, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 07/08/2022 11:12, Pipl wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 02:09:08 +0100, petrolcan <petrolcan@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <48btehddc6k6hm899jg125lpucqgho673e@4ax.com>, Pipl says...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, absolutely. 'Er Ladyships Vauxhall requires half the front bumper
>>>> undoing, as you say.
>>>
>>> Vectra?
>>
>> Yup!
>
> Bastard piles of shit. Has yours flooded the passenger footwell yet?

Our Corsa did. Started Googling and found it was so common that an
entire industry has evolved around it. Found a company in Stockport who
come down South every couple of weeks and do a batch. They replaced all
the engine bulkhead seals in about 2.5 hours on our front drive.

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/5/2022 7:33 AM, Mark Olson wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/kawasaki/motorcycle/2018/zx1002ajf-ninja-h2-sx/owner-s-tools
>>
>
> Harumpf. Apparently they don't carry an FJR tool kit.
>
> https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2008/fjr-1300a-fjr13axb

Not obvious but it's on the "Fender" fiche.

https://www.partzilla.com/product/yamaha/5JW-28100-00-00

Believe it or not I actually bought a genuine Yamaha FJR tool kit
(used) on ebay, after we were robbed in Pisa back in 2016 of all the
gear we brought with us for our Italian bike adventure. I had brought
a lot of tools (foolishly) including the FJR's tool kit. [1]

https://i.imgur.com/C8MFb1L.png

[1] Two things that pissed me off more than anything was my insurance
company valuing my late dad's leather Dopp bag (shaving kit) from
the 1940s and an older Snap-On 1/4" drive socket at $0 simply because
they were old. Both were perfectly serviceable (ratchet had just had
a new mechanism) and had a nice patina...

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

On Monday, 8 August 2022 at 21:16:54 UTC+1, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> On 07/08/2022 23:22, Mike Fleming wrote:
> > On 07/08/2022 11:12, Pipl wrote:
> >> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 02:09:08 +0100, petrolcan <petr...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <48btehddc6k6hm899...@4ax.com>, Pipl says...
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, absolutely. 'Er Ladyships Vauxhall requires half the front bumper
> >>>> undoing, as you say.
> >>>
> >>> Vectra?
> >>
> >> Yup!
> >
> > Bastard piles of shit. Has yours flooded the passenger footwell yet?
> Our Corsa did. Started Googling and found it was so common that an
> entire industry has evolved around it. Found a company in Stockport who
> come down South every couple of weeks and do a batch. They replaced all
> the engine bulkhead seals in about 2.5 hours on our front drive.

One year of Sierras leaked like sieves around the windscreen seal with the water
pooling in the passenger's footwell (maybe 1987?). At the time I was fitting carphones
and we'd often fit them in the dealers before the car was collected by the customer.

Once the water came in the customer would go to the dealer and the dealer would point
at the antenna saying that was leaking (it wasn't). After a few weeks of this the
solution we found was to er... drill a few holes through the floorpan in the passenger
footwell (the water ran down the windscreen surround/bulkhead under the carpets
and eventually came to the surface soaking through the carpet so the holes stopped it
building up).

Eventually the dealer accepted there was an issue since cars with no fitted phone
having the same issue and the solution was to reseal the screen. But there were
probably 20 or 30 late 1980s sierras that had rotten floors pointed out at the
first MOT...

On 08/08/2022 21:16, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> On 07/08/2022 23:22, Mike Fleming wrote:
>> On 07/08/2022 11:12, Pipl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 02:09:08 +0100, petrolcan <petrolcan@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <48btehddc6k6hm899jg125lpucqgho673e@4ax.com>, Pipl says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, absolutely. 'Er Ladyships Vauxhall requires half the front bumper
>>>>> undoing, as you say.
>>>>
>>>> Vectra?
>>>
>>> Yup!
>>
>> Bastard piles of shit. Has yours flooded the passenger footwell yet?
>
> Our Corsa did. Started Googling and found it was so common that an
> entire industry has evolved around it. Found a company in Stockport who
> come down South every couple of weeks and do a batch. They replaced all
> the engine bulkhead seals in about 2.5 hours on our front drive.

The Vectra does it because if parked where leaves can get into the moat
between bonnet and windscreen, the rubber vulva which drains that area
gets clogged up and the rain takes the alternative route into the
passenger footwell.

Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
news:jlfih1FifisU1@mid.individual.net:

> The Vectra does it because if parked where leaves can get into the
> moat between bonnet and windscreen, the rubber vulva which drains that
> area gets clogged up and the rain takes the alternative route into the
> passenger footwell.
>

that happens on most cars, well the ones I have owned at least

I just use a long cable tie as a drain rod then flush out with hot soapy
water

In article <jlfih1FifisU1@mid.individual.net>, Mike Fleming says...
>
> On 08/08/2022 21:16, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> > On 07/08/2022 23:22, Mike Fleming wrote:
> >> On 07/08/2022 11:12, Pipl wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 02:09:08 +0100, petrolcan <petrolcan@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <48btehddc6k6hm899jg125lpucqgho673e@4ax.com>, Pipl says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, absolutely. 'Er Ladyships Vauxhall requires half the front bumper
> >>>>> undoing, as you say.
> >>>>
> >>>> Vectra?
> >>>
> >>> Yup!
> >>
> >> Bastard piles of shit. Has yours flooded the passenger footwell yet?
> >
> > Our Corsa did. Started Googling and found it was so common that an
> > entire industry has evolved around it. Found a company in Stockport who
> > come down South every couple of weeks and do a batch. They replaced all
> > the engine bulkhead seals in about 2.5 hours on our front drive.
>
> The Vectra does it because if parked where leaves can get into the moat
> between bonnet and windscreen, the rubber vulva which drains that area
> gets clogged up and the rain takes the alternative route into the
> passenger footwell.

Never happened on my Signum but that was because I'd followed the advice to remove the vulva.

On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 08:58:55 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>> When the H2 SX was launched, there was a promo video (like this, I
>> think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH7_ujvFE34) showing the bike

>Just an observation, while taking a sweeping left hand bend bot the
>rider and pillion heads were across the white line.[1] An oncoming
>vehicle could have got interesting :-)

Oh pish tosh. I do this all the time, often with a lot more than my
head over the line. It all depends on your forward visibility. And,
if something comes the other way unexpectedly, you just pick the bike
up and adjust your line
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 09:52:31 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 08:58:55 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>> When the H2 SX was launched, there was a promo video (like this, I
>>> think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH7_ujvFE34) showing the bike
>
>>Just an observation, while taking a sweeping left hand bend bot the
>>rider and pillion heads were across the white line.[1] An oncoming
>>vehicle could have got interesting :-)
>
>Oh pish tosh. I do this all the time, often with a lot more than my
>head over the line. It all depends on your forward visibility. And,
>if something comes the other way unexpectedly, you just pick the bike
>up and adjust your line

Mmmm, I'm not so sure on this. I've often commented on the drive down
to Thonon on how many bikers do this, even when there is oncoming
traffic, i.e. me. That road does have a lot of accidents on it, and
I'm sure many of them are riders who justify their road positioning in
the same way, but perhaps fail to give themselves enough space and
time to take the avoiding action you suggest.

If one can see that the road is clear then there's no need to remain
on your side of the line anyway, if you can't then you're taking an
unnecessary risk.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:01:37 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 09:52:31 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 08:58:55 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>> When the H2 SX was launched, there was a promo video (like this, I
>>>> think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH7_ujvFE34) showing the bike
>>
>>>Just an observation, while taking a sweeping left hand bend bot the
>>>rider and pillion heads were across the white line.[1] An oncoming
>>>vehicle could have got interesting :-)
>>
>>Oh pish tosh. I do this all the time, often with a lot more than my
>>head over the line. It all depends on your forward visibility. And,
>>if something comes the other way unexpectedly, you just pick the bike
>>up and adjust your line
>
>Mmmm, I'm not so sure on this. I've often commented on the drive down
>to Thonon on how many bikers do this, even when there is oncoming
>traffic, i.e. me. That road does have a lot of accidents on it, and
>I'm sure many of them are riders who justify their road positioning in
>the same way, but perhaps fail to give themselves enough space and
>time to take the avoiding action you suggest.
>
>If one can see that the road is clear then there's no need to remain
>on your side of the line anyway, if you can't then you're taking an
>unnecessary risk.

Quite. Plus, on a right-hand bend in the UK or left-hander abroad,
you'd normally be positioned closer to the kerb in order to see
further round the bend, so you should be safe anyway.

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

On 10/08/2022 14:29, Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 13:01:37 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 09:52:31 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 08:58:55 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> When the H2 SX was launched, there was a promo video (like this, I
>>>>> think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH7_ujvFE34) showing the bike
>>>
>>>> Just an observation, while taking a sweeping left hand bend bot the
>>>> rider and pillion heads were across the white line.[1] An oncoming
>>>> vehicle could have got interesting :-)
>>>
>>> Oh pish tosh. I do this all the time, often with a lot more than my
>>> head over the line. It all depends on your forward visibility. And,
>>> if something comes the other way unexpectedly, you just pick the bike
>>> up and adjust your line
>>
>> Mmmm, I'm not so sure on this. I've often commented on the drive down
>> to Thonon on how many bikers do this, even when there is oncoming
>> traffic, i.e. me. That road does have a lot of accidents on it, and
>> I'm sure many of them are riders who justify their road positioning in
>> the same way, but perhaps fail to give themselves enough space and
>> time to take the avoiding action you suggest.
>>
>> If one can see that the road is clear then there's no need to remain
>> on your side of the line anyway, if you can't then you're taking an
>> unnecessary risk.
>
> Quite. Plus, on a right-hand bend in the UK or left-hander abroad,
> you'd normally be positioned closer to the kerb in order to see
> further round the bend, so you should be safe anyway.
>

Yeah, we kn ow where we should be, but I find I like to be near the
line. When I think about it I tend to correct it on later bends.

When Jean is pillion (rare as she prefers to ride), she lets me know .....

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 04:35:38 -0700 (PDT), Stephen Packer
<stephen.packer@gmail.com> wrote:

>Then of course as you say the oil pump either doesn't pump or pumps in the
>wrong direction.

Talking of oil pumps running the wrong way, I once heard a tale,
possibly apocryphal, where a certain make of car (one I cannot recall,
American, I think) had a camchain tensioner that ran off oil pressure.
Suppsoedly, if the car were left in a forward gear up a stepe hill and
rolled backwards, it would depressurize the oil line and slacken off
the camchain.

Not quite sure why ordinary leakdown wouldn't also cause this, but as
I said, possibly apocryphal, or it had a separate pump system. Or
maybe it actuall drew the piston backwards against spring pressure or
something.

--

-Pip