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by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 9 Nov 2022 20:07 UTC

On 09-Nov-22 17:39, Chris wrote:

> Jpeg could explain this better of course.

I saw what you did there.

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by: Joe Kerr - Thu, 10 Nov 2022 21:53 UTC

On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>
> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>
Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.

--
Ric

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by: Sid Nuncius - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 06:25 UTC

On 10/11/2022 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>
>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>
> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.

I'm glad you provided a translation there, Joe. I thought it was a
reference to the emission of the gaseous products of digestion.

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(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

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by: Chris - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 11:21 UTC

Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 09-Nov-22 17:39, Chris wrote:
>
>> Jpeg could explain this better of course.
>
> I saw what you did there.
>

Cos I was replying to John (and there is only one jpeg)

Mrs McT

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by: Joe Kerr - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 13:43 UTC

On 09/11/2022 19:57, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 08-Nov-22 20:12, Penny wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 19:30:23 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> scrawled in
>> the dust...
>>
>>> On 07-Nov-22 20:04, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> On 07-Nov-22 16:11, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>>> This morning I was sent the tracking number for a parcel. Apparently
>>>>> my parcel is scheduled for collection on 09 Nov and estimated delivery
>>>>> is 08 Nov.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that I ever expect that company to get things right - my past
>>>>> experience and that of many others.
>>>>
>>>> May I append my tale of woe to yours?
>>>>
>>>> I was awaiting a delivery on Friday.
>>>> First I received an email saying they 'ran into an issue' and "We will
>>>> try again".
>>>> A second email a couple of hours later claimed that they had delivered
>>>> the parcel by handing it to the resident.
>>>> Not true of course, and since they has insisted that the recipient must
>>>> quote a 'One Time Password' to the driver, I don't see how they could
>>>> leave it anywhere else.
>>>>
>>>> I immediately raised it with the Amazon Help answer-bot, and was
>>>> (politely) told to go away and not bother them until Tuesday.
>>>>
>>>> Since the 'system' is insistent that the item has been safely
>>>> delivered,
>>>> I can't see what will change it the interim.
>>>>
>>>> The item is a laptop, and thus falls into the "I might hang on to
>>>> this."
>>>> category.
>>>>
>>> Follow up to my own post.
>>> It now being Tuesday, I contacted Amazon customer services via a
>>> chat-box thingy.
>>> The concise version is that, as the delivery involved a 'One Time
>>> Password' then the delivery is complete - and there is nothing we can or
>>> will to do about it.
>>> Sorry about your 'inconvenience' of losing around £400.
>>>
>>> I then did the "Let me speak(sic) to your supervisor" thing.
>>>
>>> The supervisor then reversed the company position, and offered a refund
>>> "within 5 working days". I happily accepted.
>>>
>>> Whenever I do one of these chat-box things I always copy & paste the
>>> full text to a file on my machine, in case I ever need it, but this time
>>> the box closed before I could do so. Hope this doesn't come back to
>>> bite me.
>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>
>> No bother at all.
>> Pleased to hear you are getting a refund.
>
> Yep. An email today to confirm it. <Phew>
>
>> Are you assuming this was fraud/theft by the delivery bod or has your
>> phone
>> been hacked?
>
> I don't wish to blacken anyone's character, but if a driver has (say)
> 100 deliveries to make, but 3 of them have 'One Time Passwords' attached
> (and are thus evidently valuable and attractive items), does that place
> more temptation in their path?
>
> If there wasn't an "OTP" involved, I could have believed that the driver
> left it with 'a neighbour' or some 'safe place' (there are so many
> stories about parcels chucked into wheely bins etc.), but that can't be
> true - if they claimed to have received that 'password'.
>
> Even if someone had hacked my phone to learn the 'password', they would
> have had no way to change the delivery address without my discovering it.
>
You would think that a driver would have more sense than to nudge an
item off the back of his lorry and claim it was delivered when proof of
delivery is required.

If the van was fitted with GPS tracking you would not only know when to
expect the delivery but they would know whether it even visited your road.

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by: Sam Plusnet - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:23 UTC

On 11-Nov-22 11:21, Chris wrote:
> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>> On 09-Nov-22 17:39, Chris wrote:
>>
>>> Jpeg could explain this better of course.
>>
>> I saw what you did there.
>>
>
> Cos I was replying to John (and there is only one jpeg)
>
> Mrs McT

I thought it was a tease to tempt him back to umra.
(That was before I read that he has connection problems.)

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Sam Plusnet

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by: Sam Plusnet - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:26 UTC

On 11-Nov-22 13:43, Joe Kerr wrote:
> On 09/11/2022 19:57, Sam Plusnet wrote:

>> If there wasn't an "OTP" involved, I could have believed that the
>> driver left it with 'a neighbour' or some 'safe place' (there are so
>> many stories about parcels chucked into wheely bins etc.), but that
>> can't be true - if they claimed to have received that 'password'.
>>
>> Even if someone had hacked my phone to learn the 'password', they
>> would have had no way to change the delivery address without my
>> discovering it.
>>
> You would think that a driver would have more sense than to nudge an
> item off the back of his lorry and claim it was delivered when proof of
> delivery is required.
>
> If the van was fitted with GPS tracking you would not only know when to
> expect the delivery but they would know whether it even visited your road.
>
I know that sometimes you can have fun watching the little marker crawl
across the map, as it wends its way towards your house. This wasn't one
of those deliveries.

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Sam Plusnet

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by: Sam Plusnet - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27 UTC

On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>
>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>
> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.

Ventissimo.

--
Sam Plusnet

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by: Paul Herber - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34 UTC

On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>
>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>
>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>
>Ventissimo.

Ventnor.

--
Regards, Paul Herber
https://www.paulherber.co.uk/

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by: Vicky - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 21:31 UTC

On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
<paul@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>
>>On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>
>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>
>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>
>>Ventissimo.
>
>Ventnor.

Cowes

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by: Mike McMillan - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:42 UTC

Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
> <paul@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>
>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>
>>> Ventissimo.
>>
>> Ventnor.
>
> Cowes
>
>

You are just milking it now.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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by: Vicky - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:51 UTC

On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:42:32 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
>> <paul@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>>
>>>> Ventissimo.
>>>
>>> Ventnor.
>>
>> Cowes
>>
>>
>
>You are just milking it now.

Well this is a newsgroup about a farming community. Even if TA doesn't
seem to be any more.

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by: Paul Herber - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 09:08 UTC

On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:42:32 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com>
wrote:

and the cream floats to the surface, just like dead bodies.

--
Regards, Paul Herber
https://www.paulherber.co.uk/

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by: krw - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13 UTC

On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
> <paul@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>
>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>
>>> Ventissimo.
>>
>> Ventnor.
>
> Cowes
>

Mornington Crescent.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

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by: Vicky - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:34 UTC

On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13:30 +0000, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

>On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
>> <paul@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
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>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>>
>>>> Ventissimo.
>>>
>>> Ventnor.
>>
>> Cowes
>>
>
>Mornington Crescent.

I don't think you can do that because there is E and W Cowes and you
need a ferry to cross between them, which is 2 extra stops you missed
out.

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by: Sam Plusnet - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 19:10 UTC

On 12-Nov-22 17:34, Vicky wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13:30 +0000, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
>>> <paul@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ventissimo.
>>>>
>>>> Ventnor.
>>>
>>> Cowes
>>>
>>
>> Mornington Crescent.
>
>
> I don't think you can do that because there is E and W Cowes and you
> need a ferry to cross between them, which is 2 extra stops you missed
> out.

Do the latest rules allow a helicopter transfer?

Seems un-british to me.

--
Sam Plusnet

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by: BrritSki - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 19:44 UTC

On 11/11/2022 19:34, Paul Herber wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
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>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>
>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>
>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>
>> Ventissimo.
>
> Ventnor.
>
Bugger. Oh no, that was Bognor weren't it ?

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by: Penny - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 23:19 UTC

On Saturday, 12 November 2022 at 17:34:51 UTC, Vicky wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13:30 +0000, krw <k...@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>
> >On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
> >> <pa...@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <n...@home.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
> >>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> >>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
> >>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ventissimo.
> >>>
> >>> Ventnor.
> >>
> >> Cowes
> >>
> >
> >Mornington Crescent.
> I don't think you can do that because there is E and W Cowes and you
> need a ferry to cross between them, which is 2 extra stops you missed
> out.

Is the ferry working again? I know they've had a lot of trouble with the
expensive new one since it was launched so a lengthy detour would be
needed. My understanding of Island Rules is rusty - where would that leave you?

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by: Mike McMillan - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 08:37 UTC

Penny <2pence@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, 12 November 2022 at 17:34:51 UTC, Vicky wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13:30 +0000, krw <k...@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
>>>> <pa...@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <n...@home.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ventissimo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ventnor.
>>>>
>>>> Cowes
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mornington Crescent.
>> I don't think you can do that because there is E and W Cowes and you
>> need a ferry to cross between them, which is 2 extra stops you missed
>> out.
>
> Is the ferry working again? I know they've had a lot of trouble with the
> expensive new one since it was launched so a lengthy detour would be
> needed. My understanding of Island Rules is rusty - where would that leave you?
>

Might it be a sub-set of CalMac rules?

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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by: Vicky - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 09:28 UTC

On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 15:19:46 -0800 (PST), Penny <2pence@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Saturday, 12 November 2022 at 17:34:51 UTC, Vicky wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13:30 +0000, krw <k...@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
>> >> <pa...@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <n...@home.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>> >>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>> >>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>> >>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ventissimo.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ventnor.
>> >>
>> >> Cowes
>> >>
>> >
>> >Mornington Crescent.
>> I don't think you can do that because there is E and W Cowes and you
>> need a ferry to cross between them, which is 2 extra stops you missed
>> out.
>
>Is the ferry working again? I know they've had a lot of trouble with the
>expensive new one since it was launched so a lengthy detour would be
>needed. My understanding of Island Rules is rusty - where would that leave you?

I think you'd have to double back the way you arrived there.

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by: Joe Kerr - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 10:11 UTC

On 13/11/2022 09:28, Vicky wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 15:19:46 -0800 (PST), Penny <2pence@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, 12 November 2022 at 17:34:51 UTC, Vicky wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13:30 +0000, krw <k...@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
>>>>> <pa...@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <n...@home.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ventissimo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ventnor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cowes
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mornington Crescent.
>>> I don't think you can do that because there is E and W Cowes and you
>>> need a ferry to cross between them, which is 2 extra stops you missed
>>> out.
>>
>> Is the ferry working again? I know they've had a lot of trouble with the
>> expensive new one since it was launched so a lengthy detour would be
>> needed. My understanding of Island Rules is rusty - where would that leave you?
>
> I think you'd have to double back the way you arrived there.
>
Isn't that the Westminster rules where you have to follow a U-turn with
a U-turn?

--
Ric

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by: Mike McMillan - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 10:40 UTC

Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
> On 13/11/2022 09:28, Vicky wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 15:19:46 -0800 (PST), Penny <2pence@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, 12 November 2022 at 17:34:51 UTC, Vicky wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13:30 +0000, krw <k...@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
>>>>>> <pa...@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <n...@home.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>>>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ventissimo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ventnor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cowes
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mornington Crescent.
>>>> I don't think you can do that because there is E and W Cowes and you
>>>> need a ferry to cross between them, which is 2 extra stops you missed
>>>> out.
>>>
>>> Is the ferry working again? I know they've had a lot of trouble with the
>>> expensive new one since it was launched so a lengthy detour would be
>>> needed. My understanding of Island Rules is rusty - where would that leave you?
>>
>> I think you'd have to double back the way you arrived there.
>>
> Isn't that the Westminster rules where you have to follow a U-turn with
> a U-turn?
>

:-)))

--
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by: krw - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:34 UTC

On 12.11.22 17:34, Vicky wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13:30 +0000, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
>>> <paul@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ventissimo.
>>>>
>>>> Ventnor.
>>>
>>> Cowes
>>>
>>
>> Mornington Crescent.
>
>
> I don't think you can do that because there is E and W Cowes and you
> need a ferry to cross between them, which is 2 extra stops you missed
> out.

I am sure there are Underground trains on the IoW and once there was a
plan to connect the line at Lymington with the one at Yarmouth, so I was
just assuming it had been built with Underground trains being used.

--
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www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
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by: Chris - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:44 UTC

krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
> On 12.11.22 17:34, Vicky wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13:30 +0000, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
>>>> <paul@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ventissimo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ventnor.
>>>>
>>>> Cowes
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mornington Crescent.
>>
>>
>> I don't think you can do that because there is E and W Cowes and you
>> need a ferry to cross between them, which is 2 extra stops you missed
>> out.
>
> I am sure there are Underground trains on the IoW and once there was a
> plan to connect the line at Lymington with the one at Yarmouth, so I was
> just assuming it had been built with Underground trains being used.
>

Ooohhh nooooaaahhh. Underground trains have been replaced by less ancient
trains. (Pretty sure IOW didn’t get spanking new hot off the factory floor
ones)

Sincerely Chris

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by: krw - Sun, 13 Nov 2022 23:20 UTC

On 13.11.22 20:44, Chris wrote:
> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>> On 12.11.22 17:34, Vicky wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:13:30 +0000, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11.11.22 21:31, Vicky wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:34:55 +0000, Paul Herber
>>>>> <paul@paulherber.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 19:27:22 +0000, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10-Nov-22 21:53, Joe Kerr wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 09/11/2022 09:39, krw wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8.11.22 19:30, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother you all, but sometimes you need to vent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Entirely welcome - one of the beauties of umra is that we know why we
>>>>>>>>> are listening and sometimes we might even be able to help!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vidi. Veni. Venti. I saw. I came. I vented.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ventissimo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ventnor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cowes
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mornington Crescent.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think you can do that because there is E and W Cowes and you
>>> need a ferry to cross between them, which is 2 extra stops you missed
>>> out.
>>
>> I am sure there are Underground trains on the IoW and once there was a
>> plan to connect the line at Lymington with the one at Yarmouth, so I was
>> just assuming it had been built with Underground trains being used.
>>
>
> Ooohhh nooooaaahhh. Underground trains have been replaced by less ancient
> trains. (Pretty sure IOW didn’t get spanking new hot off the factory floor
> ones)
>

The new IoW trains are still ex-London Underground trains.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

Subject	Author
OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Jenny M Benson
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Jim Easterbrook
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Mike McMillan
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Iain Archer
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Chris
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Penny
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Vicky
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Jenny M Benson
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	steve hague
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Mike Ruddock
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Vicky
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Jenny M Benson
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	krw
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Jenny M Benson
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Vicky
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Philip Hole
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Mike McMillan
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Chris
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Chris
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Joe Kerr
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Mike McMillan
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	krw
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Joe Kerr
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sid Nuncius
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Paul Herber
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Vicky
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Mike McMillan
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Vicky
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Paul Herber
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	krw
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Vicky
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Penny
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Mike McMillan
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Vicky
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Joe Kerr
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Mike McMillan
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	krw
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Chris
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	krw
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Penny
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Vicky
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	John Ashby
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Nick Odell
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	John Ashby
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Nick Odell
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Sam Plusnet
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	John Ashby
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Joe Kerr
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Mike McMillan
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	Chris
Re: OT: Yet more proof that Hermes/Evri is useless	BrritSki