On 2/06/2022 11:42 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 2/06/2022 11:11 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 1/06/2022 4:16 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>
>>>
>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>> spiels..
>>
>> Who made you spokesman?
>>
>>
>>
>
> that would be no one. the ppl here with the biggest egos ie. noddy,
> lindsay, and keefy, are the ones who make these pontifications,

There's a lie...

as they
> clearly but wrongly believe they have some right to do so.

So explain this, spazpecker the dull. What happens when your mates do it?

"We all know NoddyLiar's bullshit bar is.... Clocky

"*** EVERYONE*** knows that you are a liar" Alvey

"Now ***EVERYONE*** knows that you're lazy,..." Alvey

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On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:32:05 +1000, lindsay wrote:

> On 2/06/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:16:08 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>
>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>
>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>> spiels..
>>
>> "no-one"? Elected yourself leader then.
>
> "*** EVERYONE*** knows that you are a liar" Alvey
>
> "Now ***EVERYONE*** knows that you're lazy,..." Alvey
>
> There's something satisfying watching you fuck up, Elmer Fudd.

There you go! Theorising *again*

FFS. I'm parodying another of you faux spokesthings!

alvey
Trump & the FLC. Both are guilty of killing satire and parody.

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On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:34:01 +1000, lindsay wrote:

> On 2/06/2022 11:11 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 1/06/2022 4:16 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>
>>>
>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>> spiels..
>>
>> Who made you spokesman?
>
> Hahahaha
>
> "We all know NoddyLiar's bullshit bar is just another delusion anyway."
> Clocky
>

You should be in a circus tent. "Watch man turn himself into a goose!"

alvey

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On 3/06/2022 7:32 am, lindsay wrote:
> On 2/06/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:16:08 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>
>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>
>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>> spiels..
>>
>> "no-one"? Elected yourself leader then.
>
>
> "*** EVERYONE*** knows that you are a liar" Alvey
>
> "Now ***EVERYONE*** knows that you're lazy,..." Alvey
>
> There's something satisfying watching you fuck up, Elmer Fudd.

Lol :)

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On 3/06/2022 7:34 am, lindsay wrote:
> On 2/06/2022 11:11 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 1/06/2022 4:16 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>
>>>
>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>
>>>
>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>> spiels..
>>
>> Who made you spokesman?
>
> Hahahaha
>
> "We all know NoddyLiar's bullshit bar is just another delusion anyway."
> Clocky
>
> People in glass houses...

Funny, huh?

Despite all the rancid bullshit around here which comes directly from
the FLC headquarters, they all see themselves as doing no wrong at all
and it's always someone *else* that causes each and every shit fight.

"Delusional" just doesn't go far enough to describe it... :)

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On 3/06/2022 6:53 am, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:32:05 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>
>> On 2/06/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:16:08 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>>
>>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>>
>>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>>> spiels..
>>>
>>> "no-one"? Elected yourself leader then.
>>
>> "*** EVERYONE*** knows that you are a liar" Alvey
>>
>> "Now ***EVERYONE*** knows that you're lazy,..." Alvey
>>
>> There's something satisfying watching you fuck up, Elmer Fudd.
>
> There you go! Theorising *again*
>
> FFS. I'm parodying another of you faux spokesthings!
>
>

I thought that was rather obvious.

>
> alvey
> Trump & the FLC. Both are guilty of killing satire and parody.
>

Heh.

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it is unproven, he is lying."

On 2/06/2022 9:51 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 2/06/2022 8:10 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, 2 June 2022 at 11:42:20 UTC+10, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>> that would be no one. the ppl here with the biggest egos ie. noddy,
>>> lindsay, and keefy, are the ones who make these pontifications, as they
>>> clearly but wrongly believe they have some right to do so.
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> EVERY RIGHT!.... This is a PUBLIC Forum ..........
>
> Absolutely. He has just as much right as Felix has to tell anyone to
> "go fuck themselves" which he has done a number of times.
>
>
>

I used the term 'right' in the sense of 'authority' not as 'ability'.
since this is an unmoderated forum, of course anyone has the 'right' to
say anything in the sense that they can. but no one has the 'right' to
assume they have any authority in this forum to speak for anyone else,
or to tell others to 'fuck off' as you often do. IOW such comments are
without merit ie. right, or justification. HTH.

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"So some infantile nonsense and running away again
I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy

FUCK PUTIN!!

On 2/06/2022 6:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 2/06/2022 8:10 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, 2 June 2022 at 11:42:20 UTC+10, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 2/06/2022 11:11 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 1/06/2022 4:16 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>>>> spiels..
>>>> Who made you spokesman?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> that would be no one. the ppl here with the biggest egos ie. noddy,
>>> lindsay, and keefy, are the ones who make these pontifications, as they
>>> clearly but wrongly believe they have some right to do so.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> EVERY RIGHT!.... This is a PUBLIC Forum ..........
>
>
> they can say what they like but they have no right conferred on them by
> anyone or anything to behave in any manner of authoritative position on
> this forum
>
>

The fraud believes he can have private conversations in a public forum
FFS. What hope is there?

>>>
>>> "So some infantile nonsense and running away again
>>> I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Your M/O right there..
>
>
> nup! I just don't argue with fools. which is why i mostly ignore
> anything you say.
>

Jonz gets a little bit of attention attention by being a proxy (IOW
used) by the bloke who considers him the "village idiot". How low would
you have to get to allow yourself to be used by a narcissistic abusive
habitual liar because you're so desperately reaching for some attention,
any attention.

It's pathetic and sad to be honest.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 2/06/2022 7:51 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 2/06/2022 8:10 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, 2 June 2022 at 11:42:20 UTC+10, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>> that would be no one. the ppl here with the biggest egos ie. noddy,
>>> lindsay, and keefy, are the ones who make these pontifications, as they
>>> clearly but wrongly believe they have some right to do so.
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> EVERY RIGHT!.... This is a PUBLIC Forum ..........
>
> Absolutely. He has just as much right as Felix has to tell anyone to "go
> fuck themselves" which he has done a number of times.*
>
>
>

*Except when NoddyLiar is have a private conversation with someone in
this public forum, that's different. Then everyone gets to mind their
own business.

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"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 3/06/2022 6:59 am, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:34:01 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>
>> On 2/06/2022 11:11 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 1/06/2022 4:16 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>>> spiels..
>>>
>>> Who made you spokesman?
>>
>> Hahahaha
>>
>> "We all know NoddyLiar's bullshit bar is just another delusion anyway."
>> Clocky
>>
>
> You should be in a circus tent. "Watch man turn himself into a goose!"
>
>

lol, indeed :-)

>
> alvey
>

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"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 3/6/2022 9:46 am, Noddy wrote:

>
> Despite all the rancid bullshit around here which comes directly from
> the FLCJC headquarters, they all see themselves as doing no wrong at all
> and it's always someone *else* that causes each and every shit fight.

Nah Darren, you post, you lie - so expect a reaction.
>
> "Delusional" just doesn't go far enough to describe it... :)
>
You're right Darren, delusional certainly doesn't cover what ails you.

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 3/06/2022 11:02 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 3/06/2022 6:53 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:32:05 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/06/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:16:08 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>>>
>>>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>>>> spiels..
>>>>
>>>> "no-one"? Elected yourself leader then.
>>>
>>> "*** EVERYONE*** knows that you are a liar" Alvey
>>>
>>> "Now ***EVERYONE*** knows that you're lazy,..." Alvey
>>>
>>> There's something satisfying watching you fuck up, Elmer Fudd.
>>
>> There you go! Theorising *again*
>>
>> FFS. I'm parodying another of you faux spokesthings!
>>
>>
>
> I thought that was rather obvious.

no. such subtleties are never obvious to the CJC. everything has to be
explained to them, and even then they often don't get it. education and
intellect are sadly lacking with them. boganism is their forte.

>
>>
>> alvey
>> Trump & the FLC. Both are guilty of killing satire and parody.
>>
>
> Heh.
>

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"So some infantile nonsense and running away again
I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy

FUCK PUTIN!!

On 3/06/2022 11:12 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 2/06/2022 6:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 2/06/2022 8:10 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 2 June 2022 at 11:42:20 UTC+10, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 2/06/2022 11:11 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 1/06/2022 4:16 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>>>>> spiels..
>>>>> Who made you spokesman?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> that would be no one. the ppl here with the biggest egos ie. noddy,
>>>> lindsay, and keefy, are the ones who make these pontifications, as
>>>> they
>>>> clearly but wrongly believe they have some right to do so.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> EVERY RIGHT!.... This is a PUBLIC Forum ..........
>>
>>
>> they can say what they like but they have no right conferred on them
>> by anyone or anything to behave in any manner of authoritative
>> position on this forum
>>
>>
>
> The fraud believes he can have private conversations in a public forum
> FFS. What hope is there?

poor old noddy. he got in the wrong queue when brains were being given
out  :)

>
>>>>
>>>> "So some infantile nonsense and running away again
>>>> I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Your M/O right there..
>>
>>
>> nup! I just don't argue with fools. which is why i mostly ignore
>> anything you say.
>>
>
> Jonz gets a little bit of attention attention by being a proxy (IOW
> used) by the bloke who considers him the "village idiot". How low
> would you have to get to allow yourself to be used by a narcissistic
> abusive habitual liar because you're so desperately reaching for some
> attention, any attention.
>
> It's pathetic and sad to be honest.
>

yes indeed!

and btw..speaking of pathetic, i see keefy has done a runner just as
predicted

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I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy

FUCK PUTIN!!

On 3/6/2022 11:31 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 3/06/2022 11:12 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 2/06/2022 6:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 2/06/2022 8:10 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 2 June 2022 at 11:42:20 UTC+10, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 2/06/2022 11:11 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/06/2022 4:16 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>>>>>> spiels..
>>>>>> Who made you spokesman?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> that would be no one. the ppl here with the biggest egos ie. noddy,
>>>>> lindsay, and keefy, are the ones who make these pontifications, as
>>>>> they
>>>>> clearly but wrongly believe they have some right to do so.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> EVERY RIGHT!.... This is a PUBLIC Forum ..........
>>>
>>>
>>> they can say what they like but they have no right conferred on them
>>> by anyone or anything to behave in any manner of authoritative
>>> position on this forum
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The fraud believes he can have private conversations in a public forum
>> FFS. What hope is there?
>
>
> poor old noddy. he got in the wrong queue when brains were being given
> out  :)
>
What? Darren wasn't even aware they were being issued - missed out
entirely ya see!
>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "So some infantile nonsense and running away again
>>>>> I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Your M/O right there..
>>>
>>>
>>> nup! I just don't argue with fools. which is why i mostly ignore
>>> anything you say.
>>>
>>
>> Jonz gets a little bit of attention attention by being a proxy (IOW
>> used) by the bloke who considers him the "village idiot". How low
>> would you have to get to allow yourself to be used by a narcissistic
>> abusive habitual liar because you're so desperately reaching for some
>> attention, any attention.
>>
>> It's pathetic and sad to be honest.
>>
>
> yes indeed!
>
> and btw..speaking of pathetic, i see keefy has done a runner just as
> predicted
>

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On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 09:46:17 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 3/06/2022 7:34 am, lindsay wrote:
>> On 2/06/2022 11:11 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 1/06/2022 4:16 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>>> spiels..
>>>
>>> Who made you spokesman?
>>
>> Hahahaha
>>
>> "We all know NoddyLiar's bullshit bar is just another delusion anyway."
>> Clocky
>>
>> People in glass houses...
>
> Funny, huh?
>
> Despite all the rancid bullshit around here which comes directly from
> the FLC headquarters, they all see themselves as doing no wrong at all
> and it's always someone *else* that causes each and every shit fight.
>
> "Delusional" just doesn't go far enough to describe it... :)

Opinion Fraudster, your mere opinion. Otoh, *anybody* can describe you as a
liar, fraud, coward and massive hypocrite in complete confidence and
'safety'. You're coping a pasting Fraudster.

alvey

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On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 11:26:45 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 3/06/2022 11:02 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 3/06/2022 6:53 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:32:05 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/06/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:16:08 +1000, lindsay wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're on U-tube!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
>>>>>> spiels..
>>>>>
>>>>> "no-one"? Elected yourself leader then.
>>>>
>>>> "*** EVERYONE*** knows that you are a liar" Alvey
>>>>
>>>> "Now ***EVERYONE*** knows that you're lazy,..." Alvey
>>>>
>>>> There's something satisfying watching you fuck up, Elmer Fudd.
>>>
>>> There you go! Theorising *again*
>>>
>>> FFS. I'm parodying another of you faux spokesthings!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I thought that was rather obvious.
>
> no. such subtleties are never obvious to the CJC. everything has to be
> explained to them, and even then they often don't get it. education and
> intellect are sadly lacking with them. boganism is their forte.

Well, yes.

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On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:12:09 UTC+10, Clocky wrote:
> On 2/06/2022 6:47 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> > On 2/06/2022 8:10 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, 2 June 2022 at 11:42:20 UTC+10, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>> On 2/06/2022 11:11 am, Clocky wrote:
> >>>> On 1/06/2022 4:16 pm, lindsay wrote:
> >>>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You're on U-tube!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
> >>>>> spiels..
> >>>> Who made you spokesman?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> that would be no one. the ppl here with the biggest egos ie. noddy,
> >>> lindsay, and keefy, are the ones who make these pontifications, as they
> >>> clearly but wrongly believe they have some right to do so.
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> EVERY RIGHT!.... This is a PUBLIC Forum ..........
> >
> >
> > they can say what they like but they have no right conferred on them by
> > anyone or anything to behave in any manner of authoritative position on
> > this forum
> >
> >
> The fraud believes he can have private conversations in a public forum
> FFS. What hope is there?
> >>>
> >>> "So some infantile nonsense and running away again
> >>> I see. Your standard MO." -Clocky on Keefy
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Your M/O right there..
> >
> >
> > nup! I just don't argue with fools. which is why i mostly ignore
> > anything you say.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Nope, yer just another runaway........
> >
> Jonz gets a little bit of attention attention by being a proxy (IOW
> used) by the bloke who considers him the "village idiot".
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
OH NO!!! Ise hurt!.......<FBG>

How low would
> you have to get to allow yourself to be used by a narcissistic abusive
> habitual liar because you're so desperately reaching for some attention,
> any attention.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Haha, you could/should write scripts for Coronation st, or days of our lives etc. (Bet you were bullied at school.)
>
> It's pathetic and sad to be honest.

Hell yeah!, but thats the way you roll eh.?. Have a Bex and a wee lie down saddo. <FBG>
> --
> keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
> "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
> it is unproven, he is lying."

On 2/6/2022 11:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 2/06/2022 9:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 2/6/2022 7:59 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>   No problems with comprehension here (Or for noddy (and others) for
>>> that matter)
>>
>> The lack of comprehension is his in that he assumes quite wrongly that
>> "every apprentice mechanic" received exactly the same training which
>> certainly wasn't the case in the early 70's.
>> In the early 70's there were 2 trade schools in Vic that trained motor
>> mechanic apprentices, Richmond and Batman in Coburg, I went to Batman
>> but some of the apprentices that I worked with (company always had at
>> least 5 apprentices) went to Richmond and what they and I learned
>> wasn't exactly the same.
>> I don't know if the curriculum was the same but each school had
>> different teachers and they all had there own way of doing things.
>
> Which was the same in any workshop you worked in. Each tradesman had
> their own way of doing things, and each one would insist that *their*
> way was the best way and everyone who did it differently was wrong. That
> mentality has existed everywhere that I've worked from Management down
> to plebs, and I'm sure it still does to this day.
>
> Did you know John Marshall at Batman? He was a good friend of mine who
> taught there, but you might have been a bit before him. He was an
> excellent auto transmission specialist, and I mean a *real* one. Not an
> imaginary one like Clueless Clasener :)

The name doesn't ring any bells but I started there the first year it
opened which was 1970, I very vaguely remember looking at auto
transmissions but can't remember who taught me.
Only trade teacher I can remember the name of was Bart Pridmore, he was
memorable because he had a racing Mini which was often in our classroom
>
>> We worked on forklifts, trucks, tractors and machinery whereas
>> apprentices from other employers worked on cars or trucks so what I
>> was taught was a lot different from an apprentice who worked at a car
>> dealership.
>> For example I spent about 12mths being taught how to overhaul diesel
>> fuel pumps and injectors, most apprentices that I went to trade school
>> with had never put a spanner on a diesel.
>> School training is only a small part of an apprentices training, most
>> is done on the job, if you were lucky like me you had some excellent
>> mechanics to teach you but others weren't so lucky.
>
> And that's the thing. There are some fucking morons out there. Trade
> qualified, but morons just the same.
>
>> I even recall some older mechanics who wouldn't help teach apprentices
>> because once they were qualified "they might take my job", there was
>> quite a bit of that mentality around, luckily we had designated
>> "apprentice masters" who were generally older blokes close to
>> retirement who were no longer capable of doing hard physical work so
>> they were given the job of looking after us apprentices.
>
> When I finished my time at Repco I was one of a small handful of blokes
> that could do any job and operate any machine in the place which was
> what they wanted at the time. There was around 14 staff worked in the
> workshop when I started and not all of them could comfortably move from
> one section to another. One bloke who I remember named Frank was in his
> 60's at the time and he operated the boring bar and hone and that's all
> he ever did. He did it *exceptionally* well and could hone a cylinder to
> within half a thousandth of it's finished size just by feel, but if you
> took him away from that part of the workshop and tried to get him to do
> something else he would have been completely out of his depth.
>
> So blokes like me they liked having around as whenever someone went on
> holidays I could move into their section and do whatever they did while
> they were off enjoying themselves. They cylinder head section was my
> normal day to day routine as that was the busiest section of the whole
> shop and I shared that section with a bloke named Alex who I got on
> famously with and we worked very well together, but if I needed to be on
> the crank grinder, or the line bore machine, or in the piston and pin
> section, or in the balancing section, or in the engine assembly room
> because someone was off sick or on holidays I was able to do that and
> the workshop continued on as per normal.
>
> The other thing I did a lot of was be master of apprentices :)
>
> We usually had two tarpeters kicking around, and when they weren't over
> in Maidstone or Carlton doing their schooling they'd be handing around
> me like a bad smell doing whatever I was doing. They got moved around
> the shop into each section to learn all about the many different tasks
> that went into automotive machining, and one of the really cool thing
> about the Footscray workshop was that we had a lot of old equipment like
> piston knurling machines or skirt grinding machines that could be fired
> up to demonstrate processes that were largely redundant but still useful
> in terms of providing a degree of understanding.
>
> It was a great shop for stuff like that and we used to do all kinds of
> weird and wonderful things like custom making white metal bearings, cast
> iron & alloy welding, cylindrical grinding, custom piston making, you
> name it we did it. All under one roof with people who had been doing it
> for decades which made it such a great place to learn.
>
> Sadly now it's all gone.
>

The equipment and also the skills to use most of it is sadly mostly gone.

--
Daryl

On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 12:51:26 UTC+10, alvey wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 09:46:17 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
> > On 3/06/2022 7:34 am, lindsay wrote:
> >> On 2/06/2022 11:11 am, Clocky wrote:
> >>> On 1/06/2022 4:16 pm, lindsay wrote:
> >>>> On 1/06/2022 3:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Class dismissed! Dont forget your homework, children.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You're on U-tube!
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpRrtHzlVs
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> FFS, Tommy, no-one gives a shit about your mind-numbing 200+ line
> >>>> spiels..
> >>>
> >>> Who made you spokesman?
> >>
> >> Hahahaha
> >>
> >> "We all know NoddyLiar's bullshit bar is just another delusion anyway."
> >> Clocky
> >>
> >> People in glass houses...
> >
> > Funny, huh?
> >
> > Despite all the rancid bullshit around here which comes directly from
> > the FLC headquarters, they all see themselves as doing no wrong at all
> > and it's always someone *else* that causes each and every shit fight.
> >
> > "Delusional" just doesn't go far enough to describe it... :)

> Opinion Fraudster, your mere opinion.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*Opinion*? Hmmmm, indeed, however an opinion held by a few in here. Espousing an opinion is a valid form of idea sharing in all walks of life!.

Otoh, *anybody* can describe you as a
> liar, fraud, coward and massive hypocrite in complete confidence and
> 'safety'. You're coping a pasting Fraudster.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*Opinion * once again, *however* this time proffered by a mouth breathing oxygen thief, an old saddo acting as mouthpiece for the other old saddo`s, with, i must add, the combined intelligence of a *newt*..
The said person(s) would *not* have the intestinal fortitude to spray *any* of the recipients of their crap in a face to face situation!!
Suck it up your newtness.

> alvey
>
> --
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On 3/6/2022 6:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 2/6/2022 11:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 2/06/2022 9:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 2/6/2022 7:59 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>   No problems with comprehension here (Or for noddy (and others) for
>>>> that matter)
>>>
>>> The lack of comprehension is his in that he assumes quite wrongly
>>> that "every apprentice mechanic" received exactly the same training
>>> which certainly wasn't the case in the early 70's.
>>> In the early 70's there were 2 trade schools in Vic that trained
>>> motor mechanic apprentices, Richmond and Batman in Coburg, I went to
>>> Batman but some of the apprentices that I worked with (company always
>>> had at least 5 apprentices) went to Richmond and what they and I
>>> learned wasn't exactly the same.
>>> I don't know if the curriculum was the same but each school had
>>> different teachers and they all had there own way of doing things.
>>
>> Which was the same in any workshop you worked in. Each tradesman had
>> their own way of doing things, and each one would insist that *their*
>> way was the best way and everyone who did it differently was wrong.
>> That mentality has existed everywhere that I've worked from Management
>> down to plebs, and I'm sure it still does to this day.
>>
>> Did you know John Marshall at Batman? He was a good friend of mine who
>> taught there, but you might have been a bit before him. He was an
>> excellent auto transmission specialist, and I mean a *real* one. Not
>> an imaginary one like Clueless Clasener :)
>
> The name doesn't ring any bells but I started there the first year it
> opened which was 1970, I very vaguely remember looking at auto
> transmissions but can't remember who taught me.

Hmmm, that surprises me. At Richmond, all motor mechanic apprentices had
to completely rebuild at least two (2) automatic transmissions in second
year and another two full strip down, diagnose and rebuilds in third
year. I doubt there would be a single apprentice who passed through
Richmond TAFE would could *forget* the names of their auto trans
teachers. That was because, after the rebuild, the trans had to be
tested on the trans tester and, if it failed, do it all again. For
Richmond TAFE students, the trans workshop was akin to a torture
chamber, no opportunity to slack off. It appears there was a lot of
difference in the quality of teaching and what was delivered between
Richmond and Coburg if you have only a vague memory of *looking at* auto
trans.

> Only trade teacher I can remember the name of was Bart Pridmore, he was
> memorable because he had a racing Mini which was often in our classroom

Bart Pridmore became a lecturer at Hawthorn Technical Teachers College
and was one of my lecturers during my 6 years at that institution.

https://rest.neptune-prod.its.unimelb.edu.au/server/api/core/bitstreams/3c78826e-5c40-5b54-8bd9-a35fd07744c6/content

Top of page 12. A lot of the names in that yearbook are familiar to me.
>>
>>> We worked on forklifts, trucks, tractors and machinery whereas
>>> apprentices from other employers worked on cars or trucks so what I
>>> was taught was a lot different from an apprentice who worked at a car
>>> dealership.
>>> For example I spent about 12mths being taught how to overhaul diesel
>>> fuel pumps and injectors, most apprentices that I went to trade
>>> school with had never put a spanner on a diesel.
>>> School training is only a small part of an apprentices training, most
>>> is done on the job, if you were lucky like me you had some excellent
>>> mechanics to teach you but others weren't so lucky.
>>
>> And that's the thing. There are some fucking morons out there. Trade
>> qualified, but morons just the same.
>>
>>> I even recall some older mechanics who wouldn't help teach
>>> apprentices because once they were qualified "they might take my
>>> job", there was quite a bit of that mentality around, luckily we had
>>> designated "apprentice masters" who were generally older blokes close
>>> to retirement who were no longer capable of doing hard physical work
>>> so they were given the job of looking after us apprentices.
>>
>> When I finished my time at Repco I was one of a small handful of

Read: when Darren was given the flick!

All apprentice auto machinists from ~1978 attended Richmond TAFE, Gwynne
Street Campus and Darren was most definitely never there.

<snipped bullshit>

Darren never did an apprenticeship as an auto machinist. Had he ever
done so, he would most definitely have been taught that what holds
bearing shells in place is *crush* and *not the bearing tags*. All the
tags are for is assembly location of the shells *until* the bearing caps
are tightened down and torqued and that *fact* is clearly stated in the
*Repco Engine Manual*, a book written by people Darren considers to be
the *All Knowing Gods* at Repco. Oh the irony. If the bearings lose
crush for any reason, those tags flatten out in no time and the shells
spin in the housing. In fact, *you* should have been taught this same
thing at Batman. *You* should have *corrected* Darren's assertion - but
you didn't. Yes, a big difference between training at Richmond and
Batman and I know which I preferred.
<
>> The other thing I did a lot of was be master of apprentices :)

More of Darren's utter bullshit. It was *Apprentice Master* and not
master of apprentices. Anyone who actually had that role would know
exactly what it was called.
>>

<more bullshit snipped>
>>
>> Sadly now it's all gone.
>>
>
> The equipment and also the skills to use most of it is sadly mostly gone.
>
>
If the trade no longer needs those skills, then the equipment is no
longer needed. White metal bearing pouring for instance. When I was an
apprentice there were still a few old Chev 6 engines around that had
poured whitemetal bearings. Occasionally one of these would run a
bearing and we would send the rod(s) into Repco Launceston to be
remetaled. This occurred until some time around 1972 when we were
advised by Repco that they were no longer able to supply the service and
they had discarded all the equipment. From that point on remetaling of
poured bearings dropped from the mainstream and became niche.
Unsurprising since whitemetal bearings were no longer used by car
makers, the preference being multilayered precision insert bearing
shells more suited to modern high speed engines.
You can still get white metal bearings poured but, because it is a
labour intensive and highly specialised task, you can expect to pay
through the nose for it. I think marine winches still use poured
whitemetal bearings so there will be a longer term demand beyond
automotive but it is definitely niche.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Saturday, 4 June 2022 at 03:26:27 UTC+1, Xeno wrote:
> On 3/6/2022 6:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
> > On 2/6/2022 11:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
> >> On 2/06/2022 9:38 pm, Daryl wrote:
> >>> On 2/6/2022 7:59 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>> No problems with comprehension here (Or for noddy (and others) for
> >>>> that matter)
> >>>
> >>> The lack of comprehension is his in that he assumes quite wrongly
> >>> that "every apprentice mechanic" received exactly the same training
> >>> which certainly wasn't the case in the early 70's.
> >>> In the early 70's there were 2 trade schools in Vic that trained
> >>> motor mechanic apprentices, Richmond and Batman in Coburg, I went to
> >>> Batman but some of the apprentices that I worked with (company always
> >>> had at least 5 apprentices) went to Richmond and what they and I
> >>> learned wasn't exactly the same.
> >>> I don't know if the curriculum was the same but each school had
> >>> different teachers and they all had there own way of doing things.
> >>
> >> Which was the same in any workshop you worked in. Each tradesman had
> >> their own way of doing things, and each one would insist that *their*
> >> way was the best way and everyone who did it differently was wrong.
> >> That mentality has existed everywhere that I've worked from Management
> >> down to plebs, and I'm sure it still does to this day.
> >>
> >> Did you know John Marshall at Batman? He was a good friend of mine who
> >> taught there, but you might have been a bit before him. He was an
> >> excellent auto transmission specialist, and I mean a *real* one. Not
> >> an imaginary one like Clueless Clasener :)
> >
> > The name doesn't ring any bells but I started there the first year it
> > opened which was 1970, I very vaguely remember looking at auto
> > transmissions but can't remember who taught me.
> Hmmm, that surprises me. At Richmond, all motor mechanic apprentices had
> to completely rebuild at least two (2) automatic transmissions in second
> year and another two full strip down, diagnose and rebuilds in third
> year. I doubt there would be a single apprentice who passed through
> Richmond TAFE would could *forget* the names of their auto trans
> teachers. That was because, after the rebuild, the trans had to be
> tested on the trans tester and, if it failed, do it all again. For
> Richmond TAFE students, the trans workshop was akin to a torture
> chamber, no opportunity to slack off. It appears there was a lot of
> difference in the quality of teaching and what was delivered between
> Richmond and Coburg if you have only a vague memory of *looking at* auto
> trans.
> > Only trade teacher I can remember the name of was Bart Pridmore, he was
> > memorable because he had a racing Mini which was often in our classroom
> Bart Pridmore became a lecturer at Hawthorn Technical Teachers College
> and was one of my lecturers during my 6 years at that institution.
>
> https://rest.neptune-prod.its.unimelb.edu.au/server/api/core/bitstreams/3c78826e-5c40-5b54-8bd9-a35fd07744c6/content
>
> Top of page 12. A lot of the names in that yearbook are familiar to me.
> >>
> >>> We worked on forklifts, trucks, tractors and machinery whereas
> >>> apprentices from other employers worked on cars or trucks so what I
> >>> was taught was a lot different from an apprentice who worked at a car
> >>> dealership.
> >>> For example I spent about 12mths being taught how to overhaul diesel
> >>> fuel pumps and injectors, most apprentices that I went to trade
> >>> school with had never put a spanner on a diesel.
> >>> School training is only a small part of an apprentices training, most
> >>> is done on the job, if you were lucky like me you had some excellent
> >>> mechanics to teach you but others weren't so lucky.
> >>
> >> And that's the thing. There are some fucking morons out there. Trade
> >> qualified, but morons just the same.
> >>
> >>> I even recall some older mechanics who wouldn't help teach
> >>> apprentices because once they were qualified "they might take my
> >>> job", there was quite a bit of that mentality around, luckily we had
> >>> designated "apprentice masters" who were generally older blokes close
> >>> to retirement who were no longer capable of doing hard physical work
> >>> so they were given the job of looking after us apprentices.
> >>
> >> When I finished my time at Repco I was one of a small handful of
> Read: when Darren was given the flick!
>
> All apprentice auto machinists from ~1978 attended Richmond TAFE, Gwynne
> Street Campus and Darren was most definitely never there.
>
> <snipped bullshit>
>
> Darren never did an apprenticeship as an auto machinist. Had he ever
> done so, he would most definitely have been taught that what holds
> bearing shells in place is *crush* and *not the bearing tags*. All the
> tags are for is assembly location of the shells *until* the bearing caps
> are tightened down and torqued and that *fact* is clearly stated in the
> *Repco Engine Manual*, a book written by people Darren considers to be
> the *All Knowing Gods* at Repco. Oh the irony. If the bearings lose
> crush for any reason, those tags flatten out in no time and the shells
> spin in the housing. In fact, *you* should have been taught this same
> thing at Batman. *You* should have *corrected* Darren's assertion - but
> you didn't. Yes, a big difference between training at Richmond and
> Batman and I know which I preferred.
> <
> >> The other thing I did a lot of was be master of apprentices :)
> More of Darren's utter bullshit. It was *Apprentice Master* and not
> master of apprentices. Anyone who actually had that role would know
> exactly what it was called.
> >>
>
> <more bullshit snipped>
> >>
> >> Sadly now it's all gone.
> >>
> >
> > The equipment and also the skills to use most of it is sadly mostly gone.
> >
> >
> If the trade no longer needs those skills, then the equipment is no
> longer needed. White metal bearing pouring for instance. When I was an
> apprentice there were still a few old Chev 6 engines around that had
> poured whitemetal bearings. Occasionally one of these would run a
> bearing and we would send the rod(s) into Repco Launceston to be
> remetaled. This occurred until some time around 1972 when we were
> advised by Repco that they were no longer able to supply the service and
> they had discarded all the equipment. From that point on remetaling of
> poured bearings dropped from the mainstream and became niche.
> Unsurprising since whitemetal bearings were no longer used by car
> makers, the preference being multilayered precision insert bearing
> shells more suited to modern high speed engines.
> You can still get white metal bearings poured but, because it is a
> labour intensive and highly specialised task, you can expect to pay
> through the nose for it. I think marine winches still use poured
> whitemetal bearings so there will be a longer term demand beyond
> automotive but it is definitely niche.
> --
> Xeno
>
>
> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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