On 15/07/2022 2:52 pm, JONZ wrote:
> On 7/14/2022 2:51 PM, Noddy wrote:

>> And it works very well. From the time I walk into the garage, jump
>> into the car and hit the start button to the time I've opened the
>> garage door, opened the front gate and backed out into the street the
>> steering wheel is already starting to feel warm and the seats aren't
>> far behind.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Fuckin' sook!. ;)

Yep. The older I get the easier I like it.

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On 15/07/2022 3:01 pm, JONZ wrote:
> On 7/15/2022 8:26 AM, Clocky wrote:
>> On 14/07/2022 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 14/07/2022 10:06 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>> On 7/14/2022 8:26 PM, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>   A set of decent seatcovers solves any problems......
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, yeah, but then that defeats the purpose of having leather
>>>>> seats in the first place.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> That purpose being?,
>>>
>>> Having leather seats. It's not a difficult concept.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Yeah, theres the *WANK* factor. What else?..

Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim, or
"Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the seat
itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather seats
more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean. Moreover, leather
trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the povo pack cloth
types, and are usually better quality and offer more comfort and better
support.

>> He's reminding you of why you dubbed him the 'village idiot' :-)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  *YOU* would just *love* leather seats.... *only* for the
> aforementioned *Wankery* Would suit yer personality to a *T*.. :)))

I doubt he would ever be likely to own anything with Leather trim, as he
only ever seems to buy flogged out ex-mine Hiluxes once their value has
hit less than scrap, and ex taxi Dunnydores with cloth clad bench seats.
He'll have to wait a *long* time to find any of those with leather, but
in the mean time he can keep everyone amused about what an utter fuckwit
he is in criticising other people's rides when he'd be lucky to unload
the crap he has for a famil pack of paddle pops :)

Incidentally, it was Jerky Birko who named you the Village Idiot". I
just called you a cunt :)

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On 15/7/2022 7:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/07/2022 2:34 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 7/14/2022 1:43 PM, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> Good god... a clapped out bunky German taxi Merc and now some budget
>>> Porsche we won't hear the end of.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> *WE*?....Nup, just *YOU*!.  You being the sad cunt scanning every
>> poast to see who/what ya can can have a misguided shot at!.
>
> It's always amusing to see criticism of other people's vehicles from an
> imbecile who's own "fleet" consists of nothing other than cast off
> shitheaps that are *well* past their use-by date :)
>
>
How old is that cast off shitheap Ford you use as a *daily driver*
Darren? From what I can ascertain from all your posts thus far, all you
have *ever had* has been cast off shitheaps and that Navara is no
exception. Navara's are past their use by date when the first owners
drive them off the lot. BTW, don't include your wife's cars, she's much
smarter than you and *leases them* - salary sacrifice and all that. You
know, good financial dealings. Oh, that's right, your idea of *finance*
is somewhat fractured. Ah well!

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On 7/15/2022 3:33 PM, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/7/2022 2:43 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 7/14/2022 1:11 PM, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 14/7/2022 12:16 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>> On 7/14/2022 9:44 AM, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 14/07/2022 7:48 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/07/2022 7:39 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 14/07/2022 1:36 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 13/07/2022 7:09 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23204950/bmw-subscriptions-microtransactions-heated-seats-feature
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, old news. Buy a car and subscribe to enable features
>>>>>>>> already fitted to the car as standard...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's been going on in the computer world since the '70s to my
>>>>>>> knowledge. It obviously has advantages to the manufacturer, and,
>>>>>>> in some cases, to the consumer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heaps of manufacturer advantage, but I can't think of any to the
>>>>>> end user. Continually having to pay for something that you would
>>>>>> normally only pay once for is a cunt of an idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you only need heated seats for 3 months of the year, you just
>>>>> pay for that period, if you don't keep the car too long, as many
>>>>> BMW owner do, then it could work out cheaper than buying the option
>>>>> outright.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>   Heated seats??....Why?.
>>>>
>>> I used to think the same till I used them, its one of those features
>>> that you don't think you need till you have it and then you wouldn't
>>> want to be without it, maybe not much need up north but certainly a
>>> good thing to have down south.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>     Up North? me? hardly.. 0 to 2c during the night recently, and
>> 13-16 during the day. No heated seat on my bike either, (or heated
>> gloves or grips) :) Born and bred in the south of NZ, cold dosn`t
>> worry me too much. ;)
>>
>
> Born in a cold place so thick skin and thick blood:-)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thick headed as well, all these traits come in handy! ;)....
>

On 7/15/2022 8:05 PM, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/07/2022 3:01 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 7/15/2022 8:26 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 14/07/2022 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 14/07/2022 10:06 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>> On 7/14/2022 8:26 PM, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>   A set of decent seatcovers solves any problems......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, yeah, but then that defeats the purpose of having leather
>>>>>> seats in the first place.
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> That purpose being?,
>>>>
>>>> Having leather seats. It's not a difficult concept.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Yeah, theres the *WANK* factor. What else?..
>
> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim, or
> "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the seat
> itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather seats
> more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean. Moreover, leather
> trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the povo pack cloth
> types, and are usually better quality and offer more comfort and better
> support.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sure, no disagreement with that.. Still don`t need heat tho. :)))
>
>>> He's reminding you of why you dubbed him the 'village idiot' :-)
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   *YOU* would just *love* leather seats.... *only* for the
>> aforementioned *Wankery* Would suit yer personality to a *T*.. :)))
>
> I doubt he would ever be likely to own anything with Leather trim, as he
> only ever seems to buy flogged out ex-mine Hiluxes once their value has
> hit less than scrap, and ex taxi Dunnydores with cloth clad bench seats.
> He'll have to wait a *long* time to find any of those with leather, but
> in the mean time he can keep everyone amused about what an utter fuckwit
> he is in criticising other people's rides when he'd be lucky to unload
> the crap he has for a famil pack of paddle pops :)
>
> Incidentally, it was Jerky Birko who named you the Village Idiot". I
> just called you a cunt :)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oh, righty O!...Ya cunt!. :)
>
>
>
>

On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 19:56:29 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 15/07/2022 2:34 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 7/14/2022 1:43 PM, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> Good god... a clapped out bunky German taxi Merc and now some budget
>>> Porsche we won't hear the end of.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> *WE*?....Nup, just *YOU*!.  You being the sad cunt scanning every poast
>> to see who/what ya can can have a misguided shot at!.
>
> It's always amusing to see criticism of other people's vehicles from an
> imbecile who's own "fleet" consists of nothing other than cast off
> shitheaps that are *well* past their use-by date :)

Fraudster has made some monumentally hypocritical statements over the years
and this one is, at minimum, in the Top Ten. It's so absurdly and obviously
hypocritical that it raises that old chestnut, is he trolling? Or just
plain stupid? It doesn't actually matter because the bottom line is the
same. He's a buffoon.

alvey

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On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 20:05:00 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> Incidentally, it was Jerky Birko who named you the Village Idiot".

Yep, that's another lie Fraudster.

On 07/01/18 8:58 PM, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:

1)
>>> Alvey, like Jonz, doesn't direct his attention (or inattention)
>>> based on logic or reason. It's all puerile, emotion-based,
>>> schoolyard bullshit. At least Jonz openly admits it.
>>
>> Alvey is right on the money.
> ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
> As am I....puerile, emotion-based,
> schoolyard bullshit is generally my target...As in dickheads that reckon
> they can claim/say anything, with no retribution. You know who you are!.

Look at these soft cocks go. A proven liar and the village idiot. 7/1/18

2) Jonz has already filled the position of village idiot. 14/3/17

3) Is that right? And how would you [Jonz. AS], the in-bred village idiot
who has spent his *entire* existence around here playing "yap tap" to
continually remind everyone what an utter fucktard it is, know anything
about that? 23/10/16

That you lie when it's so easy to disprove, like the above and "My father
fought in Korea", demonstrates what an incompetent and fool you are.

hth

alvey

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On 15/7/2022 9:40 pm, JONZ wrote:
> On 7/15/2022 3:33 PM, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/7/2022 2:43 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>> On 7/14/2022 1:11 PM, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 14/7/2022 12:16 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>> On 7/14/2022 9:44 AM, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/07/2022 7:48 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 14/07/2022 7:39 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 14/07/2022 1:36 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/2022 7:09 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23204950/bmw-subscriptions-microtransactions-heated-seats-feature
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, old news. Buy a car and subscribe to enable features
>>>>>>>>> already fitted to the car as standard...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's been going on in the computer world since the '70s to my
>>>>>>>> knowledge. It obviously has advantages to the manufacturer, and,
>>>>>>>> in some cases, to the consumer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heaps of manufacturer advantage, but I can't think of any to the
>>>>>>> end user. Continually having to pay for something that you would
>>>>>>> normally only pay once for is a cunt of an idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you only need heated seats for 3 months of the year, you just
>>>>>> pay for that period, if you don't keep the car too long, as many
>>>>>> BMW owner do, then it could work out cheaper than buying the
>>>>>> option outright.
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>   Heated seats??....Why?.
>>>>>
>>>> I used to think the same till I used them, its one of those features
>>>> that you don't think you need till you have it and then you wouldn't
>>>> want to be without it, maybe not much need up north but certainly a
>>>> good thing to have down south.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>     Up North? me? hardly.. 0 to 2c during the night recently, and
>>> 13-16 during the day. No heated seat on my bike either, (or heated
>>> gloves or grips) :) Born and bred in the south of NZ, cold dosn`t
>>> worry me too much. ;)
>>>
>>
>> Born in a cold place so thick skin and thick blood:-)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Thick headed as well, all these traits come in handy! ;)....
>>
>
LOL

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On 15/7/2022 8:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/07/2022 3:01 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 7/15/2022 8:26 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 14/07/2022 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 14/07/2022 10:06 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>> On 7/14/2022 8:26 PM, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>   A set of decent seatcovers solves any problems......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, yeah, but then that defeats the purpose of having leather
>>>>>> seats in the first place.
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> That purpose being?,
>>>>
>>>> Having leather seats. It's not a difficult concept.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Yeah, theres the *WANK* factor. What else?..
>
> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim, or
> "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the seat
> itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather seats
> more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean. Moreover, leather
> trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the povo pack cloth
> types, and are usually better quality and offer more comfort and better
> support.

All of our 3 cars have leather seats, never went out looking for that
feature it just happened that way.
IMHO if leather seats are looked after they are more durable than cloth.
>
>>> He's reminding you of why you dubbed him the 'village idiot' :-)
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   *YOU* would just *love* leather seats.... *only* for the
>> aforementioned *Wankery* Would suit yer personality to a *T*.. :)))
>
> I doubt he would ever be likely to own anything with Leather trim, as he
> only ever seems to buy flogged out ex-mine Hiluxes once their value has
> hit less than scrap, and ex taxi Dunnydores with cloth clad bench seats.
> He'll have to wait a *long* time to find any of those with leather, but
> in the mean time he can keep everyone amused about what an utter fuckwit
> he is in criticising other people's rides when he'd be lucky to unload
> the crap he has for a famil pack of paddle pops :)

His carrying on is quite bizzare, even if I hadn't wanted or liked the
Porsche I would have still bought it anyway, the price was a bargain and
that model is appreciating at the moment.
Its only done 90,000km and I could easily sell for $10-15k more than I
paid for it so it was a no brainer.

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On 15/07/2022 9:53 pm, JONZ wrote:
> On 7/15/2022 8:05 PM, Noddy wrote:

>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim, or
>> "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the seat
>> itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather seats
>> more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean. Moreover,
>> leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the povo pack
>> cloth types, and are usually better quality and offer more comfort and
>> better support.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Sure, no disagreement with that.. Still don`t need heat tho. :)))

Not everyone does, but I find it very therapeutic. I often walk around
the shed in Winter with a heatpack against my back.

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On 16/07/2022 10:03 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/7/2022 8:05 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim, or
>> "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the seat
>> itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather seats
>> more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean. Moreover,
>> leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the povo pack
>> cloth types, and are usually better quality and offer more comfort and
>> better support.
>
> All of our 3 cars have leather seats, never went out looking for that
> feature it just happened that way.

That's then thing. In some models you don't get a choice. It's leather,
or it's leather in a different colour. As I mentioned in another post, I
upgraded to the Wildtrak variant of the Ranger principally because it
has heated leather seats whereas the Sport model I was originally
considering has leather without heaters.

The dealer reckons you can have after-market seat heaters fitted which
I've seen before and which they were quoting a grand to supply and fit,
but when I looked at the Sport with those compared to the Wildtrak that
came with heaters as standard plus a shitload of other gear for an ectra
2 and a half grand it was a no brainer.

>> I doubt he would ever be likely to own anything with Leather trim, as
>> he only ever seems to buy flogged out ex-mine Hiluxes once their value
>> has hit less than scrap, and ex taxi Dunnydores with cloth clad bench
>> seats. He'll have to wait a *long* time to find any of those with
>> leather, but in the mean time he can keep everyone amused about what
>> an utter fuckwit he is in criticising other people's rides when he'd
>> be lucky to unload the crap he has for a famil pack of paddle pops :)
>
>
> His carrying on is quite bizzare, even if I hadn't wanted or liked the
> Porsche I would have still bought it anyway, the price was a bargain and
> that model is appreciating at the moment.

I think he suffers from a massive dose of penis envy myself. I mean, he
*always* bags everyone else's ride, yet all he owns is some worn out
povo pack 4 cylinder petrol Hilux that no one else wanted and up until
recently some shit heap ex taxi early Commodore that would have had it's
market value exceeded every time you filled the tank. IIRC that got
written off recently, and while I have no idea what he replaced it with,
if at all, I'll happily bet my left one that it was *another* fucked
old heap of shit Commodore.

He's a fucking junk collector who hates anyone for having anything else
better than what he has, and it's interesting to observe that his bestie
Clueless Clasener is *also* heavily invested at the poverty pack end of
the market. Must be something about the Dutch. They all seem to be penny
pinching mental cases.

> Its only done 90,000km and I could easily sell for $10-15k more than I
> paid for it so it was a no brainer.

Absolutely. Go for it.

You have two choices in life: Do what you want and be happy, or sit on
your arse and whine about other people enjoying themselves while you
continue to be a miserable no life cunt.

I'll leave you to decide who's who in that fairytale :)

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 10:03:25 +1000, Daryl wrote:

> On 15/7/2022 8:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/07/2022 3:01 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>> On 7/15/2022 8:26 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 14/07/2022 8:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 14/07/2022 10:06 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/14/2022 8:26 PM, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>   A set of decent seatcovers solves any problems......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, yeah, but then that defeats the purpose of having leather
>>>>>>> seats in the first place.
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That purpose being?,
>>>>>
>>>>> Having leather seats. It's not a difficult concept.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Yeah, theres the *WANK* factor. What else?..
>>
>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim, or
>> "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the seat
>> itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather seats
>> more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean. Moreover, leather
>> trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the povo pack cloth
>> types, and are usually better quality and offer more comfort and better
>> support.
>
> All of our 3 cars have leather seats, never went out looking for that
> feature it just happened that way.
> IMHO if leather seats are looked after they are more durable than cloth.
>>
>>>> He's reminding you of why you dubbed him the 'village idiot' :-)
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>   *YOU* would just *love* leather seats.... *only* for the
>>> aforementioned *Wankery* Would suit yer personality to a *T*.. :)))
>>
>> I doubt he would ever be likely to own anything with Leather trim, as he
>> only ever seems to buy flogged out ex-mine Hiluxes once their value has
>> hit less than scrap, and ex taxi Dunnydores with cloth clad bench seats.
>> He'll have to wait a *long* time to find any of those with leather, but
>> in the mean time he can keep everyone amused about what an utter fuckwit
>> he is in criticising other people's rides when he'd be lucky to unload
>> the crap he has for a famil pack of paddle pops :)
>
> His carrying on is quite bizzare, even if I hadn't wanted or liked the
> Porsche I would have still bought it anyway, the price was a bargain and
> that model is appreciating at the moment.
> Its only done 90,000km and I could easily sell for $10-15k more than I
> paid for it so it was a no brainer.

Once again you pair have missed the point. This being that, given the vast
number of times Deryl sang the praises of his elderly and (very) average
Benz, then we're unlikely to "hear the end" of his hallelujahs over the
superior Coxster.

hth

alvey

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On 7/16/2022 10:45 AM, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/07/2022 9:53 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 7/15/2022 8:05 PM, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim,
>>> or "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the
>>> seat itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather
>>> seats more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean.
>>> Moreover, leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the
>>> povo pack cloth types, and are usually better quality and offer more
>>> comfort and better support.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>   Sure, no disagreement with that.. Still don`t need heat tho. :)))
>
> Not everyone does, but I find it very therapeutic. I often walk around
> the shed in Winter with a heatpack against my back.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Fairynuff, with my Jeep the heater is *really* efficient, produces
heat within a few minutes. But, (getting real) my back is fucked thru
years of heavy lifting using the back instead of legs!. (How was I to
know. :))) ) Now even doing dishes means stopping every few minutes. :(
Maybe a bit of heat would help with that?. Apparently it`s Facet joint
syndrome, Prolly should take better care of meself........
>
>

On 16/07/2022 1:00 pm, JONZ wrote:
> On 7/16/2022 10:45 AM, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/07/2022 9:53 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>> On 7/15/2022 8:05 PM, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim,
>>>> or "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the
>>>> seat itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather
>>>> seats more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean.
>>>> Moreover, leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the
>>>> povo pack cloth types, and are usually better quality and offer more
>>>> comfort and better support.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>   Sure, no disagreement with that.. Still don`t need heat tho. :)))
>>
>> Not everyone does, but I find it very therapeutic. I often walk around
>> the shed in Winter with a heatpack against my back.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Fairynuff, with my Jeep the heater is *really* efficient, produces
> heat within a few minutes. But, (getting real) my back is fucked thru
> years of heavy lifting using the back instead of legs!. (How was I to
> know. :))) ) Now even doing dishes means stopping every few minutes. :(
> Maybe a bit of heat would help with that?. Apparently it`s Facet joint
> syndrome, Prolly should take better care of meself........

I suffer from a healthy dose of Spondylitis that came about after I
fractured my L3, L4 and L5 vertebrae, and it's at the stage where these
three vertebrae are quite significantly fused. It doesn't make bending
over impossible but it is certainly difficult, and while a surgeon told
me years ago that I'll probably be in a wheelchair by the time I turned
60 I've only got 6 months to go before I reach that milestone and I'm
not there yet.

I'm still quite physically active and do most of the stuff I've been
doing all my life, but I'm a lot slower these days and have to rely on
certain things to help get me through the day. Medications like anti-
inflammatory tablets for example, and to a lesser extent pain relief
like Panadol Osteo. I have a deep tissue remedial massage once a month,
and I also find heat packs and heated seats to be of some considerable
benefit. Especially in the colder months when things get that little bit
stiffer.

I've seen many physios, remedial massage specialists and Orthopaedic
Surgeons over the years and they all suggest different things. I've had
facet injections, I've had fusing surgery, I've had acupuncture, dry
needling, electro therapy, you name it. Some has been beneficial and
some hasn't. However one thing I've learned over the years which also
seems to be the one thing all the medical professionals seem to agree on
unanimously is that there is no one "fix" that works for everyone.

As far as the benefits of heat go, the only thing I can suggest you do
is try it and see how you go. If you have heated seats in your car and
they work well then next you go for a decent drive put them on and see
how you feel when you get to your destination. If after sitting on them
for some time you find it easier to get out of the car and move around
than you normally would then you'll have your answer.

Heat works well. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it works well
for me.

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 10:57:16 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 16/07/2022 10:03 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/7/2022 8:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim, or
>>> "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the seat
>>> itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather seats
>>> more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean. Moreover,
>>> leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the povo pack
>>> cloth types, and are usually better quality and offer more comfort and
>>> better support.
>>
>> All of our 3 cars have leather seats, never went out looking for that
>> feature it just happened that way.
>
> That's then thing. In some models you don't get a choice. It's leather,
> or it's leather in a different colour. As I mentioned in another post, I
> upgraded to the Wildtrak variant of the Ranger principally because it
> has heated leather seats whereas the Sport model I was originally
> considering has leather without heaters.

"Sport model"?
How can you have a "sport model" that gets outcornered by a Corolla?

> The dealer reckons you can have after-market seat heaters fitted which
> I've seen before and which they were quoting a grand to supply and fit,
> but when I looked at the Sport with those compared to the Wildtrak that
> came with heaters as standard plus a shitload of other gear for an ectra
> 2 and a half grand it was a no brainer.
>
>>> I doubt he would ever be likely to own anything with Leather trim, as
>>> he only ever seems to buy flogged out ex-mine Hiluxes once their value
>>> has hit less than scrap, and ex taxi Dunnydores with cloth clad bench
>>> seats. He'll have to wait a *long* time to find any of those with
>>> leather, but in the mean time he can keep everyone amused about what
>>> an utter fuckwit he is in criticising other people's rides when he'd
>>> be lucky to unload the crap he has for a famil pack of paddle pops :)
>>
>> His carrying on is quite bizzare, even if I hadn't wanted or liked the
>> Porsche I would have still bought it anyway, the price was a bargain and
>> that model is appreciating at the moment.
>
> I think he suffers from a massive dose of penis envy myself. I mean, he
> *always* bags everyone else's ride...

Strike me lucky!
So tell me Fraudster, have you forgotten all the sneering and bagging you,
the proud owner of a 2nd hand, clapped out 10yo ute, sent my way for owning
a couple of new, mid-performance Huns?

I wish that for just one day you had the ability to see what an outstanding
hypocrite you are.

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On 16/7/2022 1:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/07/2022 1:00 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 7/16/2022 10:45 AM, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 15/07/2022 9:53 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>> On 7/15/2022 8:05 PM, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim,
>>>>> or "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the
>>>>> seat itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find
>>>>> leather seats more durable than cloth. some find it easier to
>>>>> clean. Moreover, leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats
>>>>> than the povo pack cloth types, and are usually better quality and
>>>>> offer more comfort and better support.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>   Sure, no disagreement with that.. Still don`t need heat tho. :)))
>>>
>>> Not everyone does, but I find it very therapeutic. I often walk
>>> around the shed in Winter with a heatpack against my back.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   Fairynuff, with my Jeep the heater is *really* efficient, produces
>> heat within a few minutes. But, (getting real) my back is fucked thru
>> years of heavy lifting using the back instead of legs!. (How was I to
>> know. :))) ) Now even doing dishes means stopping every few minutes.
>> :( Maybe a bit of heat would help with that?. Apparently it`s Facet
>> joint syndrome, Prolly should take better care of meself........
>
> I suffer from a healthy dose of Spondylitis that came about after I

One minute you vehemently deny having spondylitis, next minute you admit
it. As they say, liars need a good memory.

Tell me Darren, when are you ever *not lying*??

> fractured my L3, L4 and L5 vertebrae, and it's at the stage where these
> three vertebrae are quite significantly fused. It doesn't make bending
> over impossible but it is certainly difficult, and while a surgeon told
> me years ago that I'll probably be in a wheelchair by the time I turned
> 60 I've only got 6 months to go before I reach that milestone and I'm
> not there yet.
>
> I'm still quite physically active and do most of the stuff I've been
> doing all my life, but I'm a lot slower these days and have to rely on
> certain things to help get me through the day. Medications like anti-
> inflammatory tablets for example, and to a lesser extent pain relief
> like Panadol Osteo. I have a deep tissue remedial massage once a month,
> and I also find heat packs and heated seats to be of some considerable
> benefit. Especially in the colder months when things get that little bit
> stiffer.

Now you know why Victorians move *north* to places like Coffs Harbour!

Mid winter and a typically sunny day, currently 19.3C. Who needs heating
with days like this?

;-)

>
> I've seen many physios, remedial massage specialists and Orthopaedic
> Surgeons over the years and they all suggest different things. I've had
> facet injections, I've had fusing surgery, I've had acupuncture, dry
> needling, electro therapy, you name it. Some has been beneficial and
> some hasn't. However one thing I've learned over the years which also
> seems to be the one thing all the medical professionals seem to agree on
> unanimously is that there is no one "fix" that works for everyone.
>
> As far as the benefits of heat go, the only thing I can suggest you do
> is try it and see how you go. If you have heated seats in your car and
> they work well then next you go for a decent drive put them on and see
> how you feel when you get to your destination. If after sitting on them
> for some time you find it easier to get out of the car and move around
> than you normally would then you'll have your answer.
>
> Heat works well. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it works well
> for me.

Well, I'll keep putting the heat on your fraudulent claims of trade
qualifications then! How about it Darren, got that proof handy? how
about stumping up those *unique numbers*? You should have 2, according
to your claims of being *dual qualified*. After all, you want to get
rid of me, that'll be the way to do it. The *only* way. I'd be soooo
embarrassed if you actually could stump up *anything verifiable* but,
Darren, I'm not even raising a sweat at the prospect of you managing
that. Does that tell you something?

You're a liar and a fraud Darren, always have been, always will be!

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 16/7/2022 3:35 pm, Max Height wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 10:57:16 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 16/07/2022 10:03 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 15/7/2022 8:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim, or
>>>> "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the seat
>>>> itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather seats
>>>> more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean. Moreover,
>>>> leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the povo pack
>>>> cloth types, and are usually better quality and offer more comfort and
>>>> better support.
>>>
>>> All of our 3 cars have leather seats, never went out looking for that
>>> feature it just happened that way.
>>
>> That's then thing. In some models you don't get a choice. It's leather,
>> or it's leather in a different colour. As I mentioned in another post, I
>> upgraded to the Wildtrak variant of the Ranger principally because it
>> has heated leather seats whereas the Sport model I was originally
>> considering has leather without heaters.
>
> "Sport model"?
> How can you have a "sport model" that gets outcornered by a Corolla?
>
>> The dealer reckons you can have after-market seat heaters fitted which
>> I've seen before and which they were quoting a grand to supply and fit,
>> but when I looked at the Sport with those compared to the Wildtrak that
>> came with heaters as standard plus a shitload of other gear for an ectra
>> 2 and a half grand it was a no brainer.
>>
>>>> I doubt he would ever be likely to own anything with Leather trim, as
>>>> he only ever seems to buy flogged out ex-mine Hiluxes once their value
>>>> has hit less than scrap, and ex taxi Dunnydores with cloth clad bench
>>>> seats. He'll have to wait a *long* time to find any of those with
>>>> leather, but in the mean time he can keep everyone amused about what
>>>> an utter fuckwit he is in criticising other people's rides when he'd
>>>> be lucky to unload the crap he has for a famil pack of paddle pops :)
>>>
>>> His carrying on is quite bizzare, even if I hadn't wanted or liked the
>>> Porsche I would have still bought it anyway, the price was a bargain and
>>> that model is appreciating at the moment.
>>
>> I think he suffers from a massive dose of penis envy myself. I mean, he
>> *always* bags everyone else's ride...
>
> Strike me lucky!
> So tell me Fraudster, have you forgotten all the sneering and bagging you,
> the proud owner of a 2nd hand, clapped out 10yo ute, sent my way for owning
> a couple of new, mid-performance Huns?
>
> I wish that for just one day you had the ability to see what an outstanding
> hypocrite you are.

No chance of that. No matter how obvious his hypocrisy is to others,
it's squarely in his *blind spot*.
>
> snip unread
>
>
> alvey
>

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On 16/7/2022 10:45 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/07/2022 9:53 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 7/15/2022 8:05 PM, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim,
>>> or "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the
>>> seat itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather
>>> seats more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean.
>>> Moreover, leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the
>>> povo pack cloth types, and are usually better quality and offer more
>>> comfort and better support.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>   Sure, no disagreement with that.. Still don`t need heat tho. :)))
>
> Not everyone does, but I find it very therapeutic. I often walk around
> the shed in Winter with a heatpack against my back.
>
>
I've got a Makita heated jacket, works well.

--
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On 16/7/2022 10:57 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/07/2022 10:03 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 15/7/2022 8:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>
>>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim,
>>> or "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the
>>> seat itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather
>>> seats more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean.
>>> Moreover, leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the
>>> povo pack cloth types, and are usually better quality and offer more
>>> comfort and better support.
>>
>> All of our 3 cars have leather seats, never went out looking for that
>> feature it just happened that way.
>
> That's then thing. In some models you don't get a choice. It's leather,
> or it's leather in a different colour. As I mentioned in another post, I
> upgraded to the Wildtrak variant of the Ranger principally because it
> has heated leather seats whereas the Sport model I was originally
> considering has leather without heaters.
>
> The dealer reckons you can have after-market seat heaters fitted which
> I've seen before and which they were quoting a grand to supply and fit,
> but when I looked at the Sport with those compared to the Wildtrak that
> came with heaters as standard plus a shitload of other gear for an ectra
> 2 and a half grand it was a no brainer.
>
>>> I doubt he would ever be likely to own anything with Leather trim, as
>>> he only ever seems to buy flogged out ex-mine Hiluxes once their
>>> value has hit less than scrap, and ex taxi Dunnydores with cloth clad
>>> bench seats. He'll have to wait a *long* time to find any of those
>>> with leather, but in the mean time he can keep everyone amused about
>>> what an utter fuckwit he is in criticising other people's rides when
>>> he'd be lucky to unload the crap he has for a famil pack of paddle
>>> pops :)
>>
>>
>> His carrying on is quite bizzare, even if I hadn't wanted or liked the
>> Porsche I would have still bought it anyway, the price was a bargain
>> and that model is appreciating at the moment.
>
> I think he suffers from a massive dose of penis envy myself. I mean, he
> *always* bags everyone else's ride, yet all he owns is some worn out
> povo pack 4 cylinder petrol Hilux that no one else wanted and up until
> recently some shit heap ex taxi early Commodore that would have had it's
> market value exceeded every time you filled the tank. IIRC that got
> written off recently, and while I have no idea what he replaced it with,
> if at all,  I'll happily bet my left one that it was *another* fucked
> old heap of shit Commodore.
>
> He's a fucking junk collector who hates anyone for having anything else
> better than what he has, and it's interesting to observe that his bestie
> Clueless Clasener is *also* heavily invested at the poverty pack end of
> the market. Must be something about the Dutch. They all seem to be penny
> pinching mental cases.
>
>> Its only done 90,000km and I could easily sell for $10-15k more than I
>> paid for it so it was a no brainer.
>
> Absolutely. Go for it.
>
> You have two choices in life: Do what you want and be happy,

That's my plan:-)

or sit on
> your arse and whine about other people enjoying themselves while you
> continue to be a miserable no life cunt.

I see no point in dying with a bucket load of money in the bank, its
mine so I intend to enjoy spending it.

--
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On 16/7/2022 8:58 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/7/2022 10:57 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 16/07/2022 10:03 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 15/7/2022 8:05 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim,
>>>> or "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the
>>>> seat itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather
>>>> seats more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean.
>>>> Moreover, leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the
>>>> povo pack cloth types, and are usually better quality and offer more
>>>> comfort and better support.
>>>
>>> All of our 3 cars have leather seats, never went out looking for that
>>> feature it just happened that way.
>>
>> That's then thing. In some models you don't get a choice. It's
>> leather, or it's leather in a different colour. As I mentioned in
>> another post, I upgraded to the Wildtrak variant of the Ranger
>> principally because it has heated leather seats whereas the Sport
>> model I was originally considering has leather without heaters.
>>
>> The dealer reckons you can have after-market seat heaters fitted which
>> I've seen before and which they were quoting a grand to supply and
>> fit, but when I looked at the Sport with those compared to the
>> Wildtrak that came with heaters as standard plus a shitload of other
>> gear for an ectra 2 and a half grand it was a no brainer.
>>
>>>> I doubt he would ever be likely to own anything with Leather trim,
>>>> as he only ever seems to buy flogged out ex-mine Hiluxes once their
>>>> value has hit less than scrap, and ex taxi Dunnydores with cloth
>>>> clad bench seats. He'll have to wait a *long* time to find any of
>>>> those with leather, but in the mean time he can keep everyone amused
>>>> about what an utter fuckwit he is in criticising other people's
>>>> rides when he'd be lucky to unload the crap he has for a famil pack
>>>> of paddle pops :)
>>>
>>>
>>> His carrying on is quite bizzare, even if I hadn't wanted or liked
>>> the Porsche I would have still bought it anyway, the price was a
>>> bargain and that model is appreciating at the moment.
>>
>> I think he suffers from a massive dose of penis envy myself. I mean,
>> he *always* bags everyone else's ride, yet all he owns is some worn
>> out povo pack 4 cylinder petrol Hilux that no one else wanted and up
>> until recently some shit heap ex taxi early Commodore that would have
>> had it's market value exceeded every time you filled the tank. IIRC
>> that got written off recently, and while I have no idea what he
>> replaced it with, if at all,  I'll happily bet my left one that it was
>> *another* fucked old heap of shit Commodore.
>>
>> He's a fucking junk collector who hates anyone for having anything
>> else better than what he has, and it's interesting to observe that his
>> bestie Clueless Clasener is *also* heavily invested at the poverty
>> pack end of the market. Must be something about the Dutch. They all
>> seem to be penny pinching mental cases.
>>
>>> Its only done 90,000km and I could easily sell for $10-15k more than
>>> I paid for it so it was a no brainer.
>>
>> Absolutely. Go for it.
>>
>> You have two choices in life: Do what you want and be happy,
>
> That's my plan:-)
>
>  or sit on
>> your arse and whine about other people enjoying themselves while you
>> continue to be a miserable no life cunt.
>
> I see no point in dying with a bucket load of money in the bank, its
> mine so I intend to enjoy spending it.
>
Well, you made sure that wouldn't happen when your business failed. Had
you even a modicum of business acumen, you might have been able to buy a
*new* Porsche instead of a used one that's reached the nadir of its
depreciation value. Hey, you could have even *leased* one and saved a
motza on tax.

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 16/7/2022 8:51 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/7/2022 10:45 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/07/2022 9:53 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>> On 7/15/2022 8:05 PM, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather trim,
>>>> or "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's about the
>>>> seat itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some find leather
>>>> seats more durable than cloth. some find it easier to clean.
>>>> Moreover, leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end seats than the
>>>> povo pack cloth types, and are usually better quality and offer more
>>>> comfort and better support.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>   Sure, no disagreement with that.. Still don`t need heat tho. :)))
>>
>> Not everyone does, but I find it very therapeutic. I often walk around
>> the shed in Winter with a heatpack against my back.
>>
Aw, that puir wee bairn Darren. He's feeling the cold. Sounds like he
needs to migrate north, at least for the winter anyway. What's your
weather like Daryl. Max of 13C and pissing down rain. I think I getting
the picture of why all you Victorians take your winter holidays in
Northern NSW or Southern Qld. A lot of them migrate here too when they
get to retirement and the freezing cold in Victoria starts hitting them
in their bones. I doubt Darren has ever been up this way, his comments
providing explicit proof of that.

>>
> I've got a Makita heated jacket, works well.

You've got a *what*??? A heated jacket? Oh what a laugh. We haven't
even got a *heater* on in the house here, no need because it's 13.6C at
the present time. I'll wager you've all got your heaters on flat out in
Victoria because, while it's now 9C in Merrimu at the moment, get this,
it currently *feels like* -1.4C. Wind chill factor up on that Mesa, I
guess, especially since they are gusting between 35-55 kp/h today in
*his* neck of the woods. Bacchus Marsh temps are the same as Merrimu but
your "feels like" temp is higher at 3.3C, must be because that Merrimu
Mesa is sheltering Bacchus Marsh from all that wind up on high.

Are you trying to tell Darren he's wrong on his "opinion" of Victorian
weather? Good luck with that! He's a narcissist, remember?

>>> “I remember looking up the average annual weather info between
>>> Coffs and here once, and in just about every way imaginable it
>>> was a worse place to be. On average it was wetter, windier and
>>> colder than here.” Darren (aka Noddy)
>>> 12Mar20

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On 16/07/2022 8:58 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/7/2022 10:57 am, Noddy wrote:

>> You have two choices in life: Do what you want and be happy,
>
> That's my plan:-)
>
>  or sit on
>> your arse and whine about other people enjoying themselves while you
>> continue to be a miserable no life cunt.
>
> I see no point in dying with a bucket load of money in the bank, its
> mine so I intend to enjoy spending it.

Couldn't agree more.

--
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--
Regards,
Noddy.

On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 23:18:17 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 16/07/2022 8:58 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 16/7/2022 10:57 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> You have two choices in life: Do what you want and be happy,
>>
>> That's my plan:-)
>>
>>  or sit on
>>> your arse and whine about other people enjoying themselves while you
>>> continue to be a miserable no life cunt.
>>
>> I see no point in dying with a bucket load of money in the bank, its
>> mine so I intend to enjoy spending it.
>
> Couldn't agree more.

No news there Fraudster. We already know how much you value your kids...

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On 16/07/2022 4:14 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 16/7/2022 1:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 16/07/2022 1:00 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2022 10:45 AM, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 15/07/2022 9:53 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>> On 7/15/2022 8:05 PM, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I don't think there's too much "wank" factor in leather
>>>>>> trim, or "Leatherette" as some of it is called these days. It's
>>>>>> about the seat itself. Some people like the feel of leather. Some
>>>>>> find leather seats more durable than cloth. some find it easier
>>>>>> to clean. Moreover, leather trimmed seats tend to be higher end
>>>>>> seats than the povo pack cloth types, and are usually better
>>>>>> quality and offer more comfort and better support.
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>   Sure, no disagreement with that.. Still don`t need heat tho. :)))
>>>>
>>>> Not everyone does, but I find it very therapeutic. I often walk
>>>> around the shed in Winter with a heatpack against my back.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>   Fairynuff, with my Jeep the heater is *really* efficient, produces
>>> heat within a few minutes. But, (getting real) my back is fucked
>>> thru years of heavy lifting using the back instead of legs!. (How
>>> was I to know. :))) ) Now even doing dishes means stopping every few
>>> minutes. :( Maybe a bit of heat would help with that?. Apparently
>>> it`s Facet joint syndrome, Prolly should take better care of
>>> meself........
>>
>> I suffer from a healthy dose of Spondylitis that came about after I
>
> One minute you vehemently deny having spondylitis, next minute you
> admit it. As they say, liars need a good memory.

reminiscent of the diabetes fiasco. how does one not know they had it?
he said he did then said he didn't!

>
>
> Tell me Darren, when are you ever *not lying*??
>
>> fractured my L3, L4 and L5 vertebrae, and it's at the stage where
>> these three vertebrae are quite significantly fused. It doesn't make
>> bending over impossible but it is certainly difficult, and while a
>> surgeon told me years ago that I'll probably be in a wheelchair by
>> the time I turned 60 I've only got 6 months to go before I reach that
>> milestone and I'm not there yet.
>>
>> I'm still quite physically active and do most of the stuff I've been
>> doing all my life, but I'm a lot slower these days and have to rely
>> on certain things to help get me through the day. Medications like
>> anti- inflammatory tablets for example, and to a lesser extent pain
>> relief like Panadol Osteo. I have a deep tissue remedial massage once
>> a month, and I also find heat packs and heated seats to be of some
>> considerable benefit. Especially in the colder months when things get
>> that little bit stiffer.
>
> Now you know why Victorians move *north* to places like Coffs Harbour!
>
> Mid winter and a typically sunny day, currently 19.3C. Who needs
> heating with days like this?
>
> ;-)
>
>>
>> I've seen many physios, remedial massage specialists and Orthopaedic
>> Surgeons over the years and they all suggest different things. I've
>> had facet injections, I've had fusing surgery, I've had acupuncture,
>> dry needling, electro therapy, you name it. Some has been beneficial
>> and some hasn't. However one thing I've learned over the years which
>> also seems to be the one thing all the medical professionals seem to
>> agree on unanimously is that there is no one "fix" that works for
>> everyone.
>>
>> As far as the benefits of heat go, the only thing I can suggest you
>> do is try it and see how you go. If you have heated seats in your car
>> and they work well then next you go for a decent drive put them on
>> and see how you feel when you get to your destination. If after
>> sitting on them for some time you find it easier to get out of the
>> car and move around than you normally would then you'll have your
>> answer.

heated seats probably would be good for someone with back problems

>>
>> Heat works well. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it works
>> well for me.
>
> Well, I'll keep putting the heat on your fraudulent claims of trade
> qualifications then! How about it Darren, got that proof handy? how
> about stumping up those *unique numbers*? You should have 2, according
> to your claims of being *dual qualified*.  After all, you want to get
> rid of me, that'll be the way to do it. The *only* way. I'd be soooo
> embarrassed if you actually could stump up *anything verifiable* but,
> Darren, I'm not even raising a sweat at the prospect of you managing
> that. Does that tell you something?
>
> You're a liar and a fraud Darren, always have been, always will be!
>

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On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 09:39:51 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> heated seats probably would be good for someone with back problems

So Fraudster should invest in a heated helmet...

alvey

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