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Subject: Re: Wrong Wrong Wrong
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 21:33:24 +1000
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 by: JONZ - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 11:33 UTC

On 7/21/2022 12:14 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 20/07/2022 9:06 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 20/07/2022 8:38 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>> On 7/19/2022 11:04 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>>>> An odd comment from the irrelevant mudflap fitter considering that
>>>>>> he's
>>>>>> never so much as been within 3 suburbs of one of these things
>>>>>> whereas I
>>>>>> have the workshop manual detailing the correct adjustment process
>>>>>> right
>>>>>> here in my workshop bookcase :)
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Yes well, true to form tikkytoc has run away from the question i
>>> asked of him re the operation/repair of said equipment. :(
>>>      The only conclusion relevant here, is that as per, the tosser
>>> really hasn`t a clue....(Bit of a windscreen moment for him.) <FBG>
>>
>> You'd be nuts to expect otherwise. He's big on noise, but goes *very*
>> quiet when it comes to anything technical.
>>
>
> LOL, that from the pleb that creates white noise instead of proving he
> is qualified when asked.
>
> *You* claim to have the manual but evidently *still* don't understand
> it's basic operation so why don't don't explain how it works to your
> dumb mate so you both remain clueless and us mechanics can have another
> good laugh at your incompetence?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

No I asked *YOU* you gutless runaway cunt!... :

"Yes well, true to form tikkytoc has run away from the question i
>>> asked of him re the operation/repair of said equipment. :(
>>> The only conclusion relevant here, is that as per, the tosser
>>> really hasn`t a clue....(Bit of a windscreen moment for him.) <FBG>"
>
>
> Off you go, lad.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yep, c'mon motormouth!.
>

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Newsgroups: aus.cars
Subject: Re: Wrong Wrong Wrong
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 06:53:54 +1000
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 by: alvey - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 20:53 UTC

On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 16:31:37 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 21/07/2022 3:11 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 21/07/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 21/07/2022 12:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> the fraudster does talk technical stuff but he usually gets things
>>>> wrong thru lack of knowledge
>>>
>>> How would you know? Your technical knowledge is on a par with my
>>> great-grandson's. He has an excuse, he's only 3.
>>
>> that's just your worthless, untrue, opinion. the reality is if you paid
>> more attention to what is posted you would know that I don't depend on
>> my knowledge. I see him proven wrong time and again by others here who
>> are more knowledgeable. I recall YOU challenging his claims about
>> aircraft engines at one time.
>
> So you don't claim any relevant knowledge then, you just rely on what
> others say.
>
>> but that was before you moved over to the
>> dark side. now you are just a lackey.
>
> ROTFL are you too thick to understand that I'm not backing noddy just
> criticising the endless repetition from you and the rest of "The Team".

Well you're certainly using the Fraudsters' main (only?) tactic here keith.
The old, 'you're too thick' standard. If you can't demonstrate your
'superiority' by argument keith then you're not. Chanting "endless" insults
is only going to make you look like a desperate and inadequate loser.

Oh, and the rest of your post is just nonsense. I'd argue it with you
except we've been there and done that, with the result being that, again,
just like Fraudster, you just won't/can't answer and runaway.

alvey

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 by: alvey - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 21:01 UTC

On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 21:33:15 +1000, Xeno wrote:

> He's a fraud and the
> motor trade really doesn't need frauds like him spouting bullshit and
> misinformation on forums. No small wonder this is the *only* forum he
> infests with his bullshit.

Eh? It's not.

> The serious automotive forums would cotton on
> to his bullshit and lies in an instant and boot him out on his arse.

Iirc, he was very obsequious in the ones I spotted him in. Probably due to
him wanting help, and the forums being modded.

alvey
ps. That email address of mine you have is not currently accessible to me.
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 by: Clocky - Fri, 22 Jul 2022 01:54 UTC

On 21/07/2022 7:33 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 21/7/2022 7:29 am, DonB wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 23:06:04 +1000, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You'd be nuts to expect otherwise. He's big on noise, but goes *very*
>>> quiet when it comes to anything technical.
>>
>> I'd opine, very confidently, that poor old Fraudster could not possibly
>> make conceding an own goal any easier. Jaysus Fraudster! You *must* be
>> able
>> to make it more challenging!
>>
>> Obvious Retort: 'Not as quiet as you when any proof of your "big
>> noise" is
>> requested Fraudster. Buffoon'.
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
> These were Darren's first words on the LSP Valve fitted to the Fiat 124.
> From any conceivable technical viewpoint, it shows Darren hasn't a clue
> how the LSPV works, absolutely no idea.
>
> On 17/7/2022 9:07 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
> > Just reminded me of another problem the thing had, which was with
> > the rear brakes.
> >
> > As I said the things were a bit nose heavy and would dive under
> > hard braking, and Fiat was obviously aware of that so they fitted
> > a shut-off valve to the rear brakes that was operated by mechanical
> > link to the rear suspension. The idea being that in the event that
> > the nose dived heavily under brakes, the upward movement of the
> > rear suspension would close the valve and shut off hydraulic
> > pressure to the rear callipers which in turn would prevent the rear
> > brakes from locking up as the weight transferred to the front.
> >
> > It was a stupid idea, and the best part about it was that it didn't
> > work :)
> >
> > In fact it worked in reverse in that by the time the car nose dived
> > hard enough to operate the valve the rear brakes were already
> > heavily loaded and all the valve managed to do was to close *after*
> > the event and keep the rear brakes fully pressurised and allow the
> > wheels to lock under the reduced weight bias. You had to actually
> > get off the brakes to get the rear wheels rolling again, and then
> > hope you had enough road left to pedal your way out of trouble
> > without doing it all over again. Not so bad on a straight dry road,
> > but dicey in the wet :)
> >
> Let's analyse that. The first point of note;
>
> > As I said the things were a bit nose heavy and would dive under
> > hard braking,
>
> A bit *nose heavy* and would *dive under hard braking*. Really? That
> shows a clear cut case of bullshit right there. The cars were *not* nose
> heavy. FWD cars were a bit nose heavy but the Fiat 124 was a FE_RWD. The
> cause of the dive under hard braking was the lack of or insufficient
> *anti-dive geometry* built into the suspension design. There's a reason
> for that, the anti-dive geometry can reduce front dip under braking to
> *zero* but that reduces the driver's road feel. That means, a typical
> car uses a maximum of 80% anti-dive. But the diving isn't the problem,
> it's the *lift* at the rear because of weight transfer that causes the
> rear to lose traction under braking and that is much harder to address.
> The rear of the 124, because it is a FE-RWD, needs *anti-squat* tuning
> in the rear suspension to limit rear end squat under acceleration.
> Unfortunately that is the *opposite* of what is required under braking
> since the rear will *lift* through weight transfer. Basically, the
> designer is confronted by opposing aims and needs anti-lift *and*
> anti-dive. That's a hard ask, the more you design for one, the more you
> lose the other. The easier solution was to control the brakes and that
> was the option chosen by Fiat in the late 60s on both FWD and RWD cars -
> and later by most other car manufacturers. The Morris Mini used a simple
> pressure limiter valve on their split brake systems - extremely basic
> but it worked. Other manufacturers went to a *proportioning valve* that,
> from a given crack point, would proportion rear brake pressure
> differently to that applied at the front brakes. This valve could be a
> separate unit in the brake lines or incorporated into the master
> cylinder. On FWD vehicles this wasn't adequate given the huge variation
> in rear brake traction depending on vehicle loading. The load sensing
> proportioning valve took care of this by connecting the proportioning
> spring to a *lever* linked to the vehicle suspension. This meant that,
> as the ride height varied, the brake line pressure to the rear varied
> commensurately and *proportionately*. Note, in most cases this took care
> of *weight transfer* as well. In extreme cases, an inertia sensing valve
> was added and all this did was lock off the *pressure increase* to a
> *variable maximum value* dependent upon inertia forces. Well, that
> shoots down Darren's *interpretation* of what happens inside the LSPV.
> Darren wrote this about the operation of the unit;
>
> > Fiat was obviously aware of that so they fitted a shut-off
> > valve to the rear brakes that was operated by mechanical
> > link to the rear suspension.
>
> Bzzztt! Wrong, totally wrong, a clear misunderstanding and, worse, a
> *misrepresentation* of the reality of how the *LSPV* actually works.
> The link he speaks of connects only to the *proportioning valve* and
> even then only to the *spring* that operates on the valve and which
> controls the crack point, the valve itself being actuated by
> *differential hydraulic pressure*. The inertia valve is a *separate
> entity* entirely and, in its simplest form, is just a large ball valve.
>
> When he wrote this;
>
> > It was a stupid idea, and the best part about it was that it didn't
> > work :)
>
> Odd then, isn't it, how most FWDs cars and commercial utes had them
> fitted and - never gave much trouble. His Navara likely has a load
> sensing proportioning valve at the rear of it. Has he ever been under it
> to see?
>
> https://www.amayama.com/en/catalogs/nissan/navara/2-pickup-left-d40-2010-r-1732/chassis-and-transmission-7/brake-piping-chassis-546
>
>
> Yep, they have one tucked in under there, top left of top pic.
>
> I must say here, again, Fiat did not design these valves nor did they
> manufacture them. They were made by OEM suppliers and are slightly
> customised (brackets, pressure spring, etc.) to suit the particular
> vehicle to which they are fitted. They work perfectly if adjusted
> correctly and maintained properly. Of course, they age and should be
> renewed whenever major brake works are carried out. For instance, if you
> are replacing/reconditioning the master cylinder and wheel
> cylinders/calipers, then it might be as well to renew this little mostly
> forgotten valve at the same time. Generally they cannot be reconditioned
> so replacement is the only option but, when you consider what can happen
> when one goes faulty when you least expect it, it's a wise move.
>
> But this last part he wrote is classic!
>
> > In fact it worked in reverse in that by the time the car nose dived
> > hard enough to operate the valve the rear brakes were already
> > heavily loaded and all the valve managed to do was to close *after*
> > the event and keep the rear brakes fully pressurised and allow the
> > wheels to lock under the reduced weight bias.
>
> Here you see Darren's clear lack of understanding of *hydraulics*. The
> LSVP is *hydraulically actuated* and is therefore pretty much
> *instantaneous* in its operation. The inertia valve operates on the
> *level* of braking once it's *limit point* has been reached and provides
> a pressure limit above and beyond that provided by the proportioning
> valve - though that limit point will be affected by inertia and will
> vary. The limit point will be lower under hard braking, higher under
> moderate braking and no limit point at all when the car is driven and
> braked normally in traffic, the proportioning valve carrying out all
> required fluid pressure modulation. The effect Darren describes as
> happening only occurs when the valve becomes faulty or is incorrectly
> adjusted. A typical fault is *corrosion* causing a sticking inertia
> valve or, more likely, an inertia valve that won't seal therefore can't
> lock off the fluid pressure increases to the rear brakes. Guess what
> happens then?  ;-)
>
> Good *text books* on brake systems will also cover this topic to varying
> degrees but even the Repco PBR Guide to Hydraulic Brake Service that I
> have here pays scant regard to proportioning valves and none at all to
> load sensing, lock off or inertia valves. It does show how to test a
> proportioning valve however.
>
> Darren's limited and incorrect understanding of *brake systems* shows he
> has quite clearly never set foot into a TAFE college as a motor mechanic
> apprentice. I'll guarantee he doesn't know anything about other kinds of
> brake hydraulic valves either.
>
> This is a classic example of what bugs me about these frauds and liars
> spouting their limited understanding of the trade on the internet. What
> Darren wrote would sound plausible to the average person but it falls
> apart under even minor scrutiny. Worse though, Darren *claims* to be
> dual qualified in automotive and this particular topic makes it quite
> apparent that he knows dick about brake hydraulics. He's a fraud and the
> motor trade really doesn't need frauds like him spouting bullshit and
> misinformation on forums. No small wonder this is the *only* forum he
> infests with his bullshit. The serious automotive forums would cotton on
> to his bullshit and lies in an instant and boot him out on his arse.
> Hey, maybe they did and this is the only forum left for him? Quite likely.
>
>
It's why he hates the people who challenge his bullshit. You know,
people with technical training, people with real trade experience and
qualified mechanics. He's expects all those who know this stuff to just
shut the fuck up and remain complicit to this outright nonsense he spouts.


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 by: Clocky - Fri, 22 Jul 2022 02:09 UTC

On 21/07/2022 7:33 pm, JONZ wrote:
> On 7/21/2022 12:14 PM, Clocky wrote:
>> On 20/07/2022 9:06 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 20/07/2022 8:38 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>> On 7/19/2022 11:04 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> An odd comment from the irrelevant mudflap fitter considering
>>>>>>> that he's
>>>>>>> never so much as been within 3 suburbs of one of these things
>>>>>>> whereas I
>>>>>>> have the workshop manual detailing the correct adjustment process
>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>> here in my workshop bookcase :)
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> Yes well, true to form tikkytoc has run away from the question i
>>>> asked of him re the operation/repair of said equipment. :(
>>>>      The only conclusion relevant here, is that as per, the tosser
>>>> really hasn`t a clue....(Bit of a windscreen moment for him.) <FBG>
>>>
>>> You'd be nuts to expect otherwise. He's big on noise, but goes *very*
>>> quiet when it comes to anything technical.
>>>
>>
>> LOL, that from the pleb that creates white noise instead of proving he
>> is qualified when asked.
>>
>> *You* claim to have the manual but evidently *still* don't understand
>> it's basic operation so why don't don't explain how it works to your
>> dumb mate so you both remain clueless and us mechanics can have
>> another good laugh at your incompetence?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> No I asked *YOU* you gutless runaway cunt!... :

Good onya, but I don't answer to the abusive and mindless gibberish from
a fraud enabler.

Back in the killfile you go.

>
>  "Yes well, true to form tikkytoc has run away from the question i
> >>> asked of him re the operation/repair of said equipment. :(
> >>>      The only conclusion relevant here, is that as per, the tosser
> >>> really hasn`t a clue....(Bit of a windscreen moment for him.) <FBG>"
>>
>>
>> Off you go, lad.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Yep, c'mon motormouth!.
>>
>

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Xeno - Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:26 UTC

On 22/7/2022 7:01 am, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 21:33:15 +1000, Xeno wrote:
>
>> He's a fraud and the
>> motor trade really doesn't need frauds like him spouting bullshit and
>> misinformation on forums. No small wonder this is the *only* forum he
>> infests with his bullshit.
>
> Eh? It's not.

Note my specific use of the word "infests".
>
>> The serious automotive forums would cotton on
>> to his bullshit and lies in an instant and boot him out on his arse.
>
> Iirc, he was very obsequious in the ones I spotted him in. Probably due to
> him wanting help, and the forums being modded.
>
My point exactly. He doesn't *infest* those forums with bullshit.
>
>
>
> alvey
> ps. That email address of mine you have is not currently accessible to me.
> ('When Upates Attack!')
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Fri, 22 Jul 2022 07:52 UTC

On 22/07/2022 12:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 21/07/2022 7:33 pm, JONZ wrote:
>> On 7/21/2022 12:14 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 20/07/2022 9:06 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 20/07/2022 8:38 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>> On 7/19/2022 11:04 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> An odd comment from the irrelevant mudflap fitter considering
>>>>>>>> that he's
>>>>>>>> never so much as been within 3 suburbs of one of these things
>>>>>>>> whereas I
>>>>>>>> have the workshop manual detailing the correct adjustment
>>>>>>>> process right
>>>>>>>> here in my workshop bookcase :)
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes well, true to form tikkytoc has run away from the question i
>>>>> asked of him re the operation/repair of said equipment. :(
>>>>>      The only conclusion relevant here, is that as per, the tosser
>>>>> really hasn`t a clue....(Bit of a windscreen moment for him.) <FBG>
>>>>
>>>> You'd be nuts to expect otherwise. He's big on noise, but goes
>>>> *very* quiet when it comes to anything technical.
>>>>
>>>
>>> LOL, that from the pleb that creates white noise instead of proving
>>> he is qualified when asked.
>>>
>>> *You* claim to have the manual but evidently *still* don't
>>> understand it's basic operation so why don't don't explain how it
>>> works to your dumb mate so you both remain clueless and us mechanics
>>> can have another good laugh at your incompetence?
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> No I asked *YOU* you gutless runaway cunt!... :
>
> Good onya, but I don't answer to the abusive and mindless gibberish
> from a fraud enabler.
>
> Back in the killfile you go.
>
>

poor old jonzie. if the fraudster and his mate ever give him the boot he
won't have anyone to talk to

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Clocky - Fri, 22 Jul 2022 13:24 UTC

On 22/07/2022 3:52 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 22/07/2022 12:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 21/07/2022 7:33 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>> On 7/21/2022 12:14 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 20/07/2022 9:06 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 20/07/2022 8:38 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/19/2022 11:04 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An odd comment from the irrelevant mudflap fitter considering
>>>>>>>>> that he's
>>>>>>>>> never so much as been within 3 suburbs of one of these things
>>>>>>>>> whereas I
>>>>>>>>> have the workshop manual detailing the correct adjustment
>>>>>>>>> process right
>>>>>>>>> here in my workshop bookcase :)
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes well, true to form tikkytoc has run away from the question i
>>>>>> asked of him re the operation/repair of said equipment. :(
>>>>>>      The only conclusion relevant here, is that as per, the tosser
>>>>>> really hasn`t a clue....(Bit of a windscreen moment for him.) <FBG>
>>>>>
>>>>> You'd be nuts to expect otherwise. He's big on noise, but goes
>>>>> *very* quiet when it comes to anything technical.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LOL, that from the pleb that creates white noise instead of proving
>>>> he is qualified when asked.
>>>>
>>>> *You* claim to have the manual but evidently *still* don't
>>>> understand it's basic operation so why don't don't explain how it
>>>> works to your dumb mate so you both remain clueless and us mechanics
>>>> can have another good laugh at your incompetence?
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> No I asked *YOU* you gutless runaway cunt!... :
>>
>> Good onya, but I don't answer to the abusive and mindless gibberish
>> from a fraud enabler.
>>
>> Back in the killfile you go.
>>
>>
>
> poor old jonzie. if the fraudster and his mate ever give him the boot he
> won't have anyone to talk to
>
>

I feel a bit sorry for him. He's never contributed anything intelligent
or of value to any group and is only tolerated by the fraud for as long
as he serves as his proxy and doesn't ask questions.
That he has to align himself with an abusive narcissist and terminal
liar just to get some kind of attention is pretty sad actually.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Fri, 22 Jul 2022 13:46 UTC

On 22/07/2022 11:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 22/07/2022 3:52 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 22/07/2022 12:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 21/07/2022 7:33 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>> On 7/21/2022 12:14 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 20/07/2022 9:06 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 20/07/2022 8:38 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/19/2022 11:04 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> An odd comment from the irrelevant mudflap fitter considering
>>>>>>>>>> that he's
>>>>>>>>>> never so much as been within 3 suburbs of one of these things
>>>>>>>>>> whereas I
>>>>>>>>>> have the workshop manual detailing the correct adjustment
>>>>>>>>>> process right
>>>>>>>>>> here in my workshop bookcase :)
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes well, true to form tikkytoc has run away from the question i
>>>>>>> asked of him re the operation/repair of said equipment. :(
>>>>>>>      The only conclusion relevant here, is that as per, the
>>>>>>> tosser really hasn`t a clue....(Bit of a windscreen moment for
>>>>>>> him.) <FBG>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You'd be nuts to expect otherwise. He's big on noise, but goes
>>>>>> *very* quiet when it comes to anything technical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL, that from the pleb that creates white noise instead of
>>>>> proving he is qualified when asked.
>>>>>
>>>>> *You* claim to have the manual but evidently *still* don't
>>>>> understand it's basic operation so why don't don't explain how it
>>>>> works to your dumb mate so you both remain clueless and us
>>>>> mechanics can have another good laugh at your incompetence?
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> No I asked *YOU* you gutless runaway cunt!... :
>>>
>>> Good onya, but I don't answer to the abusive and mindless gibberish
>>> from a fraud enabler.
>>>
>>> Back in the killfile you go.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> poor old jonzie. if the fraudster and his mate ever give him the boot
>> he won't have anyone to talk to
>>
>>
>
> I feel a bit sorry for him. He's never contributed anything
> intelligent or of value to any group and is only tolerated by the
> fraud for as long as he serves as his proxy and doesn't ask questions.
> That he has to align himself with an abusive narcissist and terminal
> liar just to get some kind of attention is pretty sad actually.
>
>

yes it is. we treated him ok tho, but he dumped on us. his choice. he
made his bed to lie on.

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: JONZ - Sat, 23 Jul 2022 06:03 UTC

On 7/23/2022 1:10 PM, JONZ wrote:
> On 7/22/2022 11:46 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 22/07/2022 11:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 22/07/2022 3:52 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 22/07/2022 12:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 21/07/2022 7:33 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/21/2022 12:14 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 20/07/2022 9:06 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 20/07/2022 8:38 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/19/2022 11:04 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> An odd comment from the irrelevant mudflap fitter
>>>>>>>>>>>> considering that he's
>>>>>>>>>>>> never so much as been within 3 suburbs of one of these
>>>>>>>>>>>> things whereas I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have the workshop manual detailing the correct adjustment
>>>>>>>>>>>> process right
>>>>>>>>>>>> here in my workshop bookcase :)
>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes well, true to form tikkytoc has run away from the question
>>>>>>>>> i asked of him re the operation/repair of said equipment. :(
>>>>>>>>>      The only conclusion relevant here, is that as per, the
>>>>>>>>> tosser really hasn`t a clue....(Bit of a windscreen moment for
>>>>>>>>> him.) <FBG>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You'd be nuts to expect otherwise. He's big on noise, but goes
>>>>>>>> *very* quiet when it comes to anything technical.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL, that from the pleb that creates white noise instead of
>>>>>>> proving he is qualified when asked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *You* claim to have the manual but evidently *still* don't
>>>>>>> understand it's basic operation so why don't don't explain how it
>>>>>>> works to your dumb mate so you both remain clueless and us
>>>>>>> mechanics can have another good laugh at your incompetence?
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No I asked *YOU* you gutless runaway cunt!... :
>>>>>
>>>>> Good onya, but I don't answer to the abusive and mindless gibberish
>>>>> from a fraud enabler.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Nup, yer simply a gutless runaway cunt. <shrug> (BTW, you just did.
> <FBG>)
>>>>>
>>>>> Back in the killfile you go.
> ~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Oh no!!!...<chuckle>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> poor old jonzie. if the fraudster and his mate ever give him the
>>>> boot he won't have anyone to talk to
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Only here for comic relief. (I`ve explained myself a couple of
> times...) However *some* of the inmates of this asylum should (maybe too
> late) realise there is more to life than trying out for fuckwit of the
> week!.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I feel a bit sorry for him. He's never contributed anything
>>> intelligent or of value to any group.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Do you now,(don`t bother),? poor ol' ticcy, I realise that words of
> more than  two syllables are er, difficult for ya ;).. Intelligence ?,
> *you* being the old sheila that commented when i posted a pic of the
> Jeep I bought for *a slab of beer* "The roof is rusty" An attempted
> putdown, dismal failure.:) (which it wasn`t, and *still* is not.) FFS,
> That was just a small fraction of *ticcytelligence* The like of which
> can be seen everyday (aided and abetted by the institution of idiots) in
> here. Like I said *comic relief*..
>
>
>  and is only tolerated by the
>>> fraud for as long as he serves as his proxy and doesn't ask questions.
>>> That he has to align himself with an abusive narcissist and terminal
>>> liar just to get some kind of attention is pretty sad actually.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I serve *no one*!.
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> yes it is. we treated him ok tho, but he dumped on us. his choice. he
>> made his bed to lie on.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  A mouse type squeak from the toadies toady just to finish with... <FBG>
>>
>

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 23 Jul 2022 07:57 UTC

On 22/07/2022 9:46 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 22/07/2022 11:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 22/07/2022 3:52 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 22/07/2022 12:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 21/07/2022 7:33 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>> On 7/21/2022 12:14 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 20/07/2022 9:06 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 20/07/2022 8:38 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/19/2022 11:04 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> An odd comment from the irrelevant mudflap fitter considering
>>>>>>>>>>> that he's
>>>>>>>>>>> never so much as been within 3 suburbs of one of these things
>>>>>>>>>>> whereas I
>>>>>>>>>>> have the workshop manual detailing the correct adjustment
>>>>>>>>>>> process right
>>>>>>>>>>> here in my workshop bookcase :)
>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes well, true to form tikkytoc has run away from the question i
>>>>>>>> asked of him re the operation/repair of said equipment. :(
>>>>>>>>      The only conclusion relevant here, is that as per, the
>>>>>>>> tosser really hasn`t a clue....(Bit of a windscreen moment for
>>>>>>>> him.) <FBG>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You'd be nuts to expect otherwise. He's big on noise, but goes
>>>>>>> *very* quiet when it comes to anything technical.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL, that from the pleb that creates white noise instead of
>>>>>> proving he is qualified when asked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *You* claim to have the manual but evidently *still* don't
>>>>>> understand it's basic operation so why don't don't explain how it
>>>>>> works to your dumb mate so you both remain clueless and us
>>>>>> mechanics can have another good laugh at your incompetence?
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> No I asked *YOU* you gutless runaway cunt!... :
>>>>
>>>> Good onya, but I don't answer to the abusive and mindless gibberish
>>>> from a fraud enabler.
>>>>
>>>> Back in the killfile you go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> poor old jonzie. if the fraudster and his mate ever give him the boot
>>> he won't have anyone to talk to
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I feel a bit sorry for him. He's never contributed anything
>> intelligent or of value to any group and is only tolerated by the
>> fraud for as long as he serves as his proxy and doesn't ask questions.
>> That he has to align himself with an abusive narcissist and terminal
>> liar just to get some kind of attention is pretty sad actually.
>>
>>
>
> yes it is. we treated him ok tho, but he dumped on us. his choice. he
> made his bed to lie on.
>

Compared to the abuse he copped from his new mate we still treat him
like a king.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 23 Jul 2022 08:56 UTC

On 23/07/2022 5:57 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 22/07/2022 9:46 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 22/07/2022 11:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 22/07/2022 3:52 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 22/07/2022 12:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 21/07/2022 7:33 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/21/2022 12:14 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 20/07/2022 9:06 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 20/07/2022 8:38 pm, JONZ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/19/2022 11:04 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> An odd comment from the irrelevant mudflap fitter
>>>>>>>>>>>> considering that he's
>>>>>>>>>>>> never so much as been within 3 suburbs of one of these
>>>>>>>>>>>> things whereas I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have the workshop manual detailing the correct adjustment
>>>>>>>>>>>> process right
>>>>>>>>>>>> here in my workshop bookcase :)
>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes well, true to form tikkytoc has run away from the question
>>>>>>>>> i asked of him re the operation/repair of said equipment. :(
>>>>>>>>>      The only conclusion relevant here, is that as per, the
>>>>>>>>> tosser really hasn`t a clue....(Bit of a windscreen moment for
>>>>>>>>> him.) <FBG>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You'd be nuts to expect otherwise. He's big on noise, but goes
>>>>>>>> *very* quiet when it comes to anything technical.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL, that from the pleb that creates white noise instead of
>>>>>>> proving he is qualified when asked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *You* claim to have the manual but evidently *still* don't
>>>>>>> understand it's basic operation so why don't don't explain how
>>>>>>> it works to your dumb mate so you both remain clueless and us
>>>>>>> mechanics can have another good laugh at your incompetence?
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No I asked *YOU* you gutless runaway cunt!... :
>>>>>
>>>>> Good onya, but I don't answer to the abusive and mindless
>>>>> gibberish from a fraud enabler.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back in the killfile you go.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> poor old jonzie. if the fraudster and his mate ever give him the
>>>> boot he won't have anyone to talk to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I feel a bit sorry for him. He's never contributed anything
>>> intelligent or of value to any group and is only tolerated by the
>>> fraud for as long as he serves as his proxy and doesn't ask questions.
>>> That he has to align himself with an abusive narcissist and terminal
>>> liar just to get some kind of attention is pretty sad actually.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> yes it is. we treated him ok tho, but he dumped on us. his choice. he
>> made his bed to lie on.
>>
>
> Compared to the abuse he copped from his new mate we still treat him
> like a king.
>
>
>

true

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: keithr0 - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 08:11 UTC

On 21/07/2022 7:58 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 21/07/2022 4:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 21/07/2022 3:11 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 21/07/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 21/07/2022 12:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the fraudster does talk technical stuff but he usually gets things
>>>>> wrong thru lack of knowledge
>>>>
>>>> How would you know? Your technical knowledge is on a par with my
>>>> great-grandson's. He has an excuse, he's only 3.
>>>
>>>
>>> that's just your worthless, untrue, opinion. the reality is if you
>>> paid more attention to what is posted you would know that I don't
>>> depend on my knowledge. I see him proven wrong time and again by
>>> others here who are more knowledgeable. I recall YOU challenging his
>>> claims about aircraft engines at one time.
>>
>> So you don't claim any relevant knowledge then,
>
>
> I have some knowledge of automotive matters, but certainly not on par
> with auto mechanics here, not even close in fact. most of what knowledge
> i have relates to when i worked on my own cars in my teenage years and
> early twenties, so it relates mostly to older cars. I don't have much
> knowledge about modern cars.
>
>
>> you just rely on what others say.
>
>
> it's not a matter of what's said, but of who is ultimately proven right,
> or wrong
>
>
>>
>>> but that was before you moved over to the dark side. now you are just
>>> a lackey.
>>
>> ROTFL are you too thick to understand that I'm not backing noddy just
>> criticising the endless repetition
>
>
> but you do back him. I never seen you take the other side in any
> argument against him, or agree with anything said against him.

Actually I don't, I simply take issue with the reams of useless shit
posted about him.

>> from you and the rest of "The Team".
>>
>>
>
> I can't speak for others, but I don't post much here, and often just
> agree with what someone else said, so there's hardly any 'endless
> repetition' from me

That is repetition as well.

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 by: Noddy - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 10:16 UTC

On 26/07/2022 6:11 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 21/07/2022 7:58 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:

>>
>> I can't speak for others, but I don't post much here, and often just
>> agree with what someone else said, so there's hardly any 'endless
>> repetition' from me
>
> That is repetition as well.

And bullshit, too.

Felix makes as much noise as anyone else around here when the subject
turns to me. He might like to kid himself that he doesn't, but kidding
himself is all he does :)

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Noddy.

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 10:42 UTC

On 26/7/2022 8:16 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/07/2022 6:11 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 21/07/2022 7:58 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I can't speak for others, but I don't post much here, and often just
>>> agree with what someone else said, so there's hardly any 'endless
>>> repetition' from me
>>
>> That is repetition as well.
>
> And bullshit, too.
>
> Felix makes as much noise as anyone else around here when the subject
> turns to me. He might like to kid himself that he doesn't, but kidding
> himself is all he does :)
>
>
>
You make the claims, you get to prove them.

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 by: Clocky - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 13:43 UTC

On 26/07/2022 6:16 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/07/2022 6:11 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 21/07/2022 7:58 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I can't speak for others, but I don't post much here, and often just
>>> agree with what someone else said, so there's hardly any 'endless
>>> repetition' from me
>>
>> That is repetition as well.
>
> And bullshit, too.
>
> Felix makes as much noise as anyone else around here when the subject
> turns to me. He might like to kid himself that he doesn't, but kidding
> himself is all he does :)
>
>
>

Prove you are qualified and all your enemies disappear. It couldn't be
simpler, fraud... Post the only thing that matters you fake incompetent
clown, let's go!

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

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 by: alvey - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:24 UTC

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 18:11:28 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 21/07/2022 7:58 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 21/07/2022 4:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 21/07/2022 3:11 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 21/07/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 21/07/2022 12:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> the fraudster does talk technical stuff but he usually gets things
>>>>>> wrong thru lack of knowledge
>>>>>
>>>>> How would you know? Your technical knowledge is on a par with my
>>>>> great-grandson's. He has an excuse, he's only 3.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> that's just your worthless, untrue, opinion. the reality is if you
>>>> paid more attention to what is posted you would know that I don't
>>>> depend on my knowledge. I see him proven wrong time and again by
>>>> others here who are more knowledgeable. I recall YOU challenging his
>>>> claims about aircraft engines at one time.
>>>
>>> So you don't claim any relevant knowledge then,
>>
>> I have some knowledge of automotive matters, but certainly not on par
>> with auto mechanics here, not even close in fact. most of what knowledge
>> i have relates to when i worked on my own cars in my teenage years and
>> early twenties, so it relates mostly to older cars. I don't have much
>> knowledge about modern cars.
>>
>>> you just rely on what others say.
>>
>> it's not a matter of what's said, but of who is ultimately proven right,
>> or wrong
>>
>>>
>>>> but that was before you moved over to the dark side. now you are just
>>>> a lackey.
>>>
>>> ROTFL are you too thick to understand that I'm not backing noddy just
>>> criticising the endless repetition
>>
>> but you do back him. I never seen you take the other side in any
>> argument against him, or agree with anything said against him.
>
> Actually I don't,

Poorly expressed.
You "don't" *what* keith? You don't back him? You don't "take the other
side"? Or you don't "agree with anything said against him"?
The only "don't" I can clearly decipher here is that you literally don't
make any sense.

> I simply take issue with the reams of useless shit posted about him.

"simple" is correct. It's been explained sufficient times to you why 'we'
continue to point out Fraudsters inadequacies and, as you claim to dislike
repetition, there is no point in doing so again.

alvey

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 by: alvey - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:32 UTC

On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 20:16:59 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> On 26/07/2022 6:11 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 21/07/2022 7:58 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I can't speak for others, but I don't post much here, and often just
>>> agree with what someone else said, so there's hardly any 'endless
>>> repetition' from me
>>
>> That is repetition as well.
>
> And bullshit, too.

Yep. And it's allll from you Fraudster. Plus hypocrisy, cowardice and
kiddie level abuse.

But you can stop all this objectionable "repetition" in a couple of minutes
Fraudboy. All you need to do is prove your Big Claims. You know. What you
used to demand others do.

oty Gibbens.

alvey

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 by: keithr0 - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 06:22 UTC

On 27/07/2022 7:24 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 18:11:28 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 21/07/2022 7:58 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 21/07/2022 4:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 21/07/2022 3:11 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 21/07/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 21/07/2022 12:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the fraudster does talk technical stuff but he usually gets things
>>>>>>> wrong thru lack of knowledge
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How would you know? Your technical knowledge is on a par with my
>>>>>> great-grandson's. He has an excuse, he's only 3.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> that's just your worthless, untrue, opinion. the reality is if you
>>>>> paid more attention to what is posted you would know that I don't
>>>>> depend on my knowledge. I see him proven wrong time and again by
>>>>> others here who are more knowledgeable. I recall YOU challenging his
>>>>> claims about aircraft engines at one time.
>>>>
>>>> So you don't claim any relevant knowledge then,
>>>
>>> I have some knowledge of automotive matters, but certainly not on par
>>> with auto mechanics here, not even close in fact. most of what knowledge
>>> i have relates to when i worked on my own cars in my teenage years and
>>> early twenties, so it relates mostly to older cars. I don't have much
>>> knowledge about modern cars.
>>>
>>>> you just rely on what others say.
>>>
>>> it's not a matter of what's said, but of who is ultimately proven right,
>>> or wrong
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> but that was before you moved over to the dark side. now you are just
>>>>> a lackey.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL are you too thick to understand that I'm not backing noddy just
>>>> criticising the endless repetition
>>>
>>> but you do back him. I never seen you take the other side in any
>>> argument against him, or agree with anything said against him.
>>
>> Actually I don't,
>
> Poorly expressed.
> You "don't" *what* keith? You don't back him? You don't "take the other
> side"? Or you don't "agree with anything said against him"?
> The only "don't" I can clearly decipher here is that you literally don't
> make any sense.
>
>> I simply take issue with the reams of useless shit posted about him.
>
> "simple" is correct. It's been explained sufficient times to you why 'we'
> continue to point out Fraudsters inadequacies and, as you claim to dislike
> repetition, there is no point in doing so again.

Lots of words no meaning, just alve droning on as usual.

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