On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:01:37 PM UTC+10, Rodney Ulyate wrote:

As always, your requests for "proof" are futile. This is not the kind of discussion where proofs can be offered.

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:01:37 PM UTC+10, Rodney Ulyate wrote:
> > The deployment, in the end, did nothing. Other than give Russia another excuse to build up troops on the border. They came in handy, didn't they...
> Time is such a malleable, contractable thing. One thing happens, then another. The Russia build-up, which you claim as a response to Trump's, followed it by several years, by which time Trump was gone. Idiot.

I claimed it was "another excuse". There were previous cause for excuse.

On Saturday, 5 March 2022 at 14:10:09 UTC+2, Mike Holmans wrote:
> Oh my gawd, is far-right activist Rodney Dunderhead spreading his
> disinformation again? Hardly a surprise given that his friend Mr Putin
> is being awful. (He'll probably deny being an activist, in which case
> he's just a useful idiot for the far right.)
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/time-to-confront-trump-putin-network

When Holmunculus and I first discussed politics, about four years ago, my support for Messrs Corbyn and Sanders, and my opposition to the corporate control of public goods, had him denouncing me as a soft-left conspiracy theorist.

Now he sees my opposition to a soft-left conspiracy theory and unblinkingly denounces me as "a right-wing activist."

Everyone should have enemies as vulgar and as guileless as mine.

Rodney

On Saturday, 5 March 2022 at 14:10:36 UTC+2, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:01:37 PM UTC+10, Rodney Ulyate wrote:
> As always, your requests for "proof" are futile. This is not the kind of discussion where proofs can be offered.

Which is to say that you believe what you believe without evidence. A stunning admission.

Rodney

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:19:26 PM UTC+10, Rodney Ulyate wrote:
> On Saturday, 5 March 2022 at 14:10:36 UTC+2, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:01:37 PM UTC+10, Rodney Ulyate wrote:
> > As always, your requests for "proof" are futile. This is not the kind of discussion where proofs can be offered.
> Which is to say that you believe what you believe without evidence. A stunning admission.

What kind of useless lawyer are you?
There's a remarkable difference between proof (which you've asked for) and evidence.

On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 00:54:30 UTC+2, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:19:26 PM UTC+10, Rodney Ulyate wrote:
> > On Saturday, 5 March 2022 at 14:10:36 UTC+2, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 10:01:37 PM UTC+10, Rodney Ulyate wrote:
> > > As always, your requests for "proof" are futile. This is not the kind of discussion where proofs can be offered.
> > Which is to say that you believe what you believe without evidence. A stunning admission.
> What kind of useless lawyer are you?
> There's a remarkable difference between proof (which you've asked for) and evidence.

There is. But you're the one who's confused the two. I've been asking for "evidence" throughout, including in the post to which you were responding. To recap:

Rodney: "You don't meet your burden of proof with a 'perhaps.'"
Jack: "As always, your requests for 'proof' are futile. This is not the kind of discussion where proofs can be offered."
Rodney: "Which is to say that you believe what you believe without evidence.. A stunning admission."
Jack: "There's a remarkable difference between proof (which you've asked for) and evidence."

Jack would know, if Jack could read, that my reference to "proof" was actually to the "burden of proof," which is discharged by adducing evidence. If Jack cannot discharge this burden -- and that is what he appears to be admitting in the above -- it follows that he has little or no evidence. QED -- unless you're an idiot.

Rodney

more "proof" of Trump being Putin's little whore;

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/trump-putin-ukraine/index.html

On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 19:57:20 UTC+2, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> more "proof" of Trump being Putin's little whore;
> https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/trump-putin-ukraine/index.html

Why is it always weblinks with you people? Can you not do your own thinking? Can you not make your own arguments? How gormless do you have to be to do this just moments after I've taken you to task for your inability to form a syllogism?

It's never hard news either. It's always* something frantic from the op-ed columns. How does the opinion of some overpaid CNN hack count as evidence of anything? Have some self-respect.

Don't think I haven't noticed your abject abandonment of the stand you were taking on the proof/evidence distinction. Don't think I haven't noticed that every time I get one past, you proceed to a different set of goalposts. Quit while you're behind.

Rodney

* Holmanculus's last was the same. I haven't read either of them.

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 11:28:02 -0800 (PST), Rodney Ulyate wrote:

snip unread.

I've missed all this thread, (was it started by Horrible Henderson?),
soooo... How the hell are you? Still lawyering in London?

alvey

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On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 5:28:03 AM UTC+10, Rodney Ulyate wrote:
> On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 19:57:20 UTC+2, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> > more "proof" of Trump being Putin's little whore;
> > https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/trump-putin-ukraine/index.html
> Why is it always weblinks with you people?

Your posts and style are barely worthy of reply as it is, so you should be happy with weblinks.

On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 23:06:38 UTC+2, alvey wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 11:28:02 -0800 (PST), Rodney Ulyate wrote:
> snip unread.
> I've missed all this thread, (was it started by Horrible Henderson?),
> soooo... How the hell are you?

Very well, thanks. *Too* well, apparently, given the compulsion I seem to have felt to resuscitate an old squabble. You?

I divide my time between extracting value from my law degree and commentating on cricket for the SABC. Much prefer the latter: It's frankly ridiculous that I get paid to watch my favourite sport.

Rodney

On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 23:43:46 UTC+2, Mike Holmans wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 07:06:34 +1000, alvey <al...@is.invalid> wrote:
> >On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 11:28:02 -0800 (PST), Rodney Ulyate wrote:
> >snip unread.
> >I've missed all this thread, (was it started by Horrible Henderson?),
> It was five years ago, when Dunderhead was still keen on proving that
> Donald Trump was wonderful because Russian bots had convinced him,
> following his previous assertions on behalf of Bernie Sanders because
> the Russian bots had convinced hin, so now he's spewing garbage on
> Putin's behalf because Russian bots have convinced him.
> >soooo... How the hell are you? Still lawyering in London?
> He's probably moved on to trying to overturn US elections.

We're all a bit sick, no doubt, as the merest glance at this thread would prove. But this is quite something. I hope you get the help you need.

Rodney

On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 23:54:04 UTC+2, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 5:28:03 AM UTC+10, Rodney Ulyate wrote:
> > On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 19:57:20 UTC+2, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > more "proof" of Trump being Putin's little whore;
> > > https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/trump-putin-ukraine/index.html
> > Why is it always weblinks with you people?
> Your posts and style are barely worthy of reply

Then don't reply. You have nothing to say.

Rodney

On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 00:28:53 -0800 (PST), Rodney Ulyate wrote:

> On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 23:06:38 UTC+2, alvey wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 11:28:02 -0800 (PST), Rodney Ulyate wrote:
>> snip unread.
>> I've missed all this thread, (was it started by Horrible Henderson?),
>> soooo... How the hell are you?
>
> Very well, thanks. *Too* well, apparently, given the compulsion I seem to
> have felt to resuscitate an old squabble. You?

Retired in 2015 and am now living a degenerate and decadent life on SE
Qld's fabulous Sunshine Coast, which is an hours drive north of Brisbane.
Love it. Especially the Optional Underwear aspect.
>
> I divide my time between extracting value from my law degree and
> commentating on cricket for the SABC. Much prefer the latter: It's
> frankly ridiculous that I get paid to watch my favourite sport.

Lucky bastard. Radio comms was always was always my dream job. You can wear
boardies & thongs to work *and* get a good view. Working with Jim Maxwell
could be a deterrent though. But remember to set yourself some serious
goals. Like, see if you can match Richie's tan.

Anyhoo, good luck to you.

cheers
alvey

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