On 02/03/2023 17:13, Brian Gaff wrote:
> If we are onto place names, the UK mainland has a few odd ones.
> Piddle Trentide is one, ant the other is the only place in the UK that
> contains a non letter in its name, namely Westward Ho!
>
> Brian

Care to refine that?

Appleby-in-Westmorland.
Barrow-in-Ferness.
Henley-in-Arden.
Kirton-in-Lindsey.
Burnham-on-Crouch.
Chapel-en-le-Frith.
Stockton-on-Tees.

Tone

On 02/03/2023 20:50, Mike Spencer wrote:
> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Hereford Cathedral is on a road called Cathedral Close, to which the
>> appropriate reply would be "no kidding".
>
> Digression: Hereford Cathedral also has a chained library, each book
> attached to the shelf by a (neccessarily hand-forged) chain. Were the
> 13th c. monks subject to attacks of kleptomania?
>
Not especially, but in those days, books were very valuable and
expensive to copy, and Abbots and Bishops had been known to "borrow"
books to copy at their place and "forget" to return them.

There was also an element of controlled access, and making sure the
books could only be read in that room was part of it. You didn't take
the book to a table, the staff took a table to the book for you. If you
weren't senior enough, you didn't get in.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 02-Mar-23 20:50, Mike Spencer wrote:
> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Hereford Cathedral is on a road called Cathedral Close, to which the
>> appropriate reply would be "no kidding".
>
> Digression: Hereford Cathedral also has a chained library, each book
> attached to the shelf by a (neccessarily hand-forged) chain. Were the
> 13th c. monks subject to attacks of kleptomania?
>

Dunno.
Were monks the only people allowed in the library?
Many of the books would be effectively irreplaceable, or cost a fortune
in labour and materials to replace - assuming you could manage to borrow
another copy from some other library.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 02-Mar-23 7:31, Tone wrote:
> On 02/03/2023 01:48, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 01/03/2023 14:35, Tone wrote:
>>> On 01/03/2023 14:24, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
>>>> On 28/02/2023 15:54, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>>>>   The four corners of the globe or world. If the World was a cube,
>>>>> fine, but
>>>>> its not. Nor is it square and 2D.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> North South East West?
>>>>
>>>
>>> They do talk about boxing the compass, and a box has eight corners.
>>
>> I bid you a small Rose's choklit bocks, the box they bury you in, and
>> the one you might sit in in the theatre.
>>
>
> You'll get your ears boxed!

Is that what they did with van Gogh's cast-offs?

--
Sam Plusnet

On 02-Mar-23 12:58, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 02/03/2023 01:48, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 01/03/2023 14:35, Tone wrote:
>>> On 01/03/2023 14:24, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
>>>> On 28/02/2023 15:54, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>>>>   The four corners of the globe or world. If the World was a cube,
>>>>> fine, but
>>>>> its not. Nor is it square and 2D.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> North South East West?
>>>>
>>>
>>> They do talk about boxing the compass, and a box has eight corners.
>>
>> I bid you a small Rose's choklit bocks, the box they bury you in, and
>> the one you might sit in in the theatre.
>
> Not to mention a Celebrations box and a Quality Street box, and
> Toblerone boxes for the big ones.

Don't see many Toblerone boxes these days. Everyone's got a mobile.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 2023-03-02, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>
> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Hereford Cathedral is on a road called Cathedral Close, to which the
>> appropriate reply would be "no kidding".
>
> Digression: Hereford Cathedral also has a chained library, each book
> attached to the shelf by a (neccessarily hand-forged) chain. Were the
> 13th c. monks subject to attacks of kleptomania?
>

Books were valuable back then, handcopied, and sometimes carried into
battle by warring tribes. There was something about St. Columnkill being
sentenced to go to Iona for something like that.

--
greymausg@mail.com
where is our money gone, Dude?

On 2023-03-02, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 02-Mar-23 20:50, Mike Spencer wrote:
>> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Hereford Cathedral is on a road called Cathedral Close, to which the
>>> appropriate reply would be "no kidding".
>>
>> Digression: Hereford Cathedral also has a chained library, each book
>> attached to the shelf by a (neccessarily hand-forged) chain. Were the
>> 13th c. monks subject to attacks of kleptomania?
>>
>
> Dunno.
> Were monks the only people allowed in the library?
> Many of the books would be effectively irreplaceable, or cost a fortune
> in labour and materials to replace - assuming you could manage to borrow
> another copy from some other library.
>

`The name of the rose' which I relooked at recently.

--
greymausg@mail.com
where is our money gone, Dude?

In article <ttr2s5$cuv9$2@dont-email.me>, Tone <tone@email.com> on
Thu, 2 Mar 2023 at 21:01:57 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On 02/03/2023 17:13, Brian Gaff wrote:
>> If we are onto place names, the UK mainland has a few odd ones.
>> Piddle Trentide is one, ant the other is the only place in the UK that
>> contains a non letter in its name, namely Westward Ho!
>>
>> Brian
>
>Care to refine that?
>
> Appleby-in-Westmorland.
> Barrow-in-Ferness.
> Henley-in-Arden.
> Kirton-in-Lindsey.
> Burnham-on-Crouch.
> Chapel-en-le-Frith.
> Stockton-on-Tees.
>
>Tone
Stoke-on-Trent & Newcastle-under-Lyme but oddly Newcastle upon Tyne.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 02/03/2023 21:13, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 02-Mar-23 20:50, Mike Spencer wrote:
>> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Hereford Cathedral is on a road called Cathedral Close, to which the
>>> appropriate reply would be "no kidding".
>>
>> Digression: Hereford Cathedral also has a chained library, each book
>> attached to the shelf by a (neccessarily hand-forged) chain. Were the
>> 13th c. monks subject to attacks of kleptomania?
>>
>
> Dunno.
> Were monks the only people allowed in the library?

They were often the only local people who could read the contents. Even
a lot of the secular heirarchy were illiterate. A lot of the books were
in Latin, anyway.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 02/03/2023 21:15, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>
> Don't see many Toblerone boxes these days.  Everyone's got a mobile.
>
<Laughter and applause>

--
Nev
It causes me a great deal of regret and remorse
that so many people are unable to understand what I write.

On 01/03/2023 22:11, maus wrote:

> Do you remember the story of the couple in NYC who had so many books
> stacked along the passageway that the books collapsed and blocked the
> exit and they starved to death.

Extremely unlikely. Three weeks to starve to death.
You could chew through the walls in less time than that

soup said:
> On 01/03/2023 22:11, maus wrote:
>
>> Do you remember the story of the couple in NYC who had so many books
>> stacked along the passageway that the books collapsed and blocked the
>> exit and they starved to death.
>
>
> Extremely unlikely. Three weeks to starve to death.
> You could chew through the walls in less time than that

"It's only a story, dear"

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 02/03/2023 20:50, Mike Spencer wrote:
> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Hereford Cathedral is on a road called Cathedral Close, to which the
>> appropriate reply would be "no kidding".
>
> Digression: Hereford Cathedral also has a chained library, each book
> attached to the shelf by a (neccessarily hand-forged) chain. Were the
> 13th c. monks subject to attacks of kleptomania?
>

So does the Unseen University.

--
Chris Elvidge
England

On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 11:32:14 +0000
soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 01/03/2023 22:11, maus wrote:
>
> > Do you remember the story of the couple in NYC who had so many books
> > stacked along the passageway that the books collapsed and blocked the
> > exit and they starved to death.
>
>
> Extremely unlikely. Three weeks to starve to death.
> You could chew through the walls in less time than that

Yes but they stopped to read each book as they dug it out of the
way.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 2023-03-03, soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 01/03/2023 22:11, maus wrote:
>
>> Do you remember the story of the couple in NYC who had so many books
>> stacked along the passageway that the books collapsed and blocked the
>> exit and they starved to death.
>
>
> Extremely unlikely. Three weeks to starve to death.
> You could chew through the walls in less time than that
>

Consider that you would e-merge out to NYCity, perhaps they didn't
bother. Never been there, never want to.

--
greymausg@mail.com
where is our money gone, Dude?

On 2023-03-03, Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:
> On 02/03/2023 20:50, Mike Spencer wrote:
>> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Hereford Cathedral is on a road called Cathedral Close, to which the
>>> appropriate reply would be "no kidding".
>>
>> Digression: Hereford Cathedral also has a chained library, each book
>> attached to the shelf by a (neccessarily hand-forged) chain. Were the
>> 13th c. monks subject to attacks of kleptomania?
>>
>
> So does the Unseen University.
>

Ook, Ook!.

--
greymausg@mail.com
where is our money gone, Dude?

Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote in news:ttspc9$kr11$1@dont-email.me:

> On 02/03/2023 20:50, Mike Spencer wrote:
>> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Hereford Cathedral is on a road called Cathedral Close, to which the
>>> appropriate reply would be "no kidding".
>>
>> Digression: Hereford Cathedral also has a chained library, each book
>> attached to the shelf by a (neccessarily hand-forged) chain. Were the
>> 13th c. monks subject to attacks of kleptomania?
>>
>
> So does the Unseen University.
>

Yes, but for rather different reasons.

--
Peter
-----

On 03/03/2023 11:32, soup wrote:
> On 01/03/2023 22:11, maus wrote:
>
>> Do you remember the story of the couple in NYC who had so many books
>> stacked along the passageway that the books collapsed and blocked the
>> exit and they starved to death.
>
>
> Extremely unlikely.  Three weeks to starve to death.
> You could chew through the walls in less time than that

And certainly methodically pick the books up, stack them against the
wall(s) or elsewhere in an hour or two.

</Trump>

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 03/03/2023 17:28, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 03/03/2023 11:32, soup wrote:
>> On 01/03/2023 22:11, maus wrote:
>>
>>> Do you remember the story of the couple in NYC who had so many books
>>> stacked along the passageway that the books collapsed and blocked the
>>> exit and they starved to death.
>>
>>
>> Extremely unlikely.  Three weeks to starve to death.
>> You could chew through the walls in less time than that
>
> And certainly methodically pick the books up, stack them against the
> wall(s) or elsewhere in an hour or two.
>
> </Trump>
>

But then if you start reading them as you pick them up?

It's very hard not to do that IMHE.

Tone

On 02/03/2023 21:47, maus wrote:
> On 2023-03-02, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>>
>> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Hereford Cathedral is on a road called Cathedral Close, to which the
>>> appropriate reply would be "no kidding".
>>
>> Digression: Hereford Cathedral also has a chained library, each book
>> attached to the shelf by a (neccessarily hand-forged) chain. Were the
>> 13th c. monks subject to attacks of kleptomania?
>>
>
> Books were valuable back then, handcopied, and sometimes carried into
> battle by warring tribes. There was something about St. Columnkill being
> sentenced to go to Iona for something like that.

St Calumchille...

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 03/03/2023 09:35, nev young wrote:
> On 02/03/2023 21:15, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>
>> Don't see many Toblerone boxes these days.  Everyone's got a mobile.
>>
> <Laughter and applause>
>
'sWhoosed me...

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

RustyHinge said:
> On 03/03/2023 09:35, nev young wrote:
>> On 02/03/2023 21:15, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't see many Toblerone boxes these days.  Everyone's got a mobile.
>>>
>> <Laughter and applause>
>>
> 'sWhoosed me...

I'm guessing it's rhyming slang, based on the fact that in the Old Days,
phone boxes were triangular. Not many people know that.

For good reasons.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> writes:

> Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote in news:ttspc9$kr11$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 02/03/2023 20:50, Mike Spencer wrote:
>>
>>> Digression: Hereford Cathedral also has a chained library, each book
>>> attached to the shelf by a (neccessarily hand-forged) chain. Were the
>>> 13th c. monks subject to attacks of kleptomania?
>>>
>>
>> So does the Unseen University.
>>
>
> Yes, but for rather different reasons.

And the Octavo was a special case.

--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

On 03/03/2023 11:32, soup wrote:
> On 01/03/2023 22:11, maus wrote:
>
>> Do you remember the story of the couple in NYC who had so many books
>> stacked along the passageway that the books collapsed and blocked the
>> exit and they starved to death.
>
>
> Extremely unlikely.  Three weeks to starve to death.
> You could chew through the walls in less time than that

Or eat the books.

On 02/03/2023 13:13, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On 2 Mar 2023 11:18:08 GMT
> maus <maus@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cork to Dublin road, you pass a sign that orders ``Kill''
>
> Many drivers seem to take it that way.
>
> I quite often go to Kill Arney.

Do you say "I'll be back"?