With increasingly ubiquitous iPhones, internet, central air conditioning,
flat-screen TVs, and indoor plumbing, few in the developed world would
want to go back to life 100, 30, or even 10 years ago. Indeed, around the
world, the last two centuries have brought vast improvements in material
living standards; billions of people have been lifted from poverty, and
life expectancy across income levels has broadly risen. Most of that
progress came from capitalist economies.

Yet those economies are not without their problems. In the United States
and the United Kingdom, the gap between the rich and poor has become
intolerably large as business owners and highly educated workers in urban
areas have become richer while workers� wages in rural areas have
stagnated. In most rich countries, more trade has brought a bigger, better
variety of goods, but it has also displaced many jobs.

With social instability in the form of mass protests, Brexit, the rise of
populism, and deep polarization knocking at the capitalist economies�
doors, much of the progress of the last several decades is in peril. For
some pundits and policymakers, the solution is clear: socialism, which
tends to be cited as a method for addressing everything from inequality
and injustice to climate change.

Allison Schrager is an economist, senior fellow at the Manhattan
Institute, and co-founder of LifeCycle Finance Partners, LLC, a risk
advisory firm. Twitter: @AllisonSchrager

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/15/socialism-wont-work-capitalism-still-
best/

RichTravsky <traRvEsTy@hatmmoveail.com> wrote

> With increasingly ubiquitous iPhones, internet, central air conditioning,
> flat-screen TVs, and indoor plumbing, few in the developed world would
> want to go back to life 100, 30, or even 10 years ago.

Irrelevant you stupid claim about socialism.

> Indeed, around the
> world, the last two centuries have brought vast improvements in material
> living standards; billions of people have been lifted from poverty, and
> life expectancy across income levels has broadly risen. Most of that
> progress came from capitalist economies.

Irrelevant to the fact that plenty of socialism has worked fine.

In spades with education, cops, health care, the judicial
system, roads, ports etc etc etc over that time.

> Yet those economies are not without their problems. In the United States
> and the United Kingdom, the gap between the rich and poor has become
> intolerably large

Bullshit on the intolerable. And those at the bottom
who depend entirely on govt handouts do FAR better
now than they used to a couple of centurys ago.

> as business owners and highly educated workers in urban
> areas have become richer while workers’ wages in rural areas have
> stagnated.

What matters is their living standards which are still fine.

> In most rich countries, more trade has brought a bigger, better
> variety of goods, but it has also displaced many jobs.

But in spite of that we see FAR more jobs in the service industrys.

> With social instability in the form of mass protests,

Corse there never was anything like that during
the Vietnam War or with the Bonus Army, eh ?

> Brexit,

Nothing to do with socialism.

> the rise of
> populism, and deep polarization

Corse there never was anything like that during
the Vietnam War or with the Bonus Army, eh ?

> knocking at the capitalist economies’
> doors,

Has no effect on that in fact.

> much of the progress of the last several decades is in peril.

BULLSHIT.

> For
> some pundits and policymakers, the solution is clear: socialism, which
> tends to be cited as a method for addressing everything from inequality
> and injustice to climate change.

Just as true of the rabid capitalists.

> Allison Schrager is an economist, senior fellow at the Manhattan
> Institute, and co-founder of LifeCycle Finance Partners, LLC, a risk
> advisory firm. Twitter: @AllisonSchrager
>
> https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/15/socialism-wont-work-capitalism-still-
> best/

Just because some fool claims something...

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 01:12:22 -0000 (UTC), RichTravsky
<traRvEsTy@hatmMOVEail.com> wrote:

>With increasingly ubiquitous iPhones, internet, central air conditioning,
>flat-screen TVs, and indoor plumbing, few in the developed world would
>want to go back to life 100, 30, or even 10 years ago. Indeed, around the
>world, the last two centuries have brought vast improvements in material
>living standards; billions of people have been lifted from poverty, and
>life expectancy across income levels has broadly risen. Most of that
>progress came from capitalist economies.
>
>Yet those economies are not without their problems. In the United States
>and the United Kingdom, the gap between the rich and poor has become
>intolerably large as business owners and highly educated workers in urban
>areas have become richer while workers’ wages in rural areas have
>stagnated. In most rich countries, more trade has brought a bigger, better
>variety of goods, but it has also displaced many jobs.
>
>With social instability in the form of mass protests, Brexit, the rise of
>populism, and deep polarization knocking at the capitalist economies’
>doors, much of the progress of the last several decades is in peril. For
>some pundits and policymakers, the solution is clear: socialism, which
>tends to be cited as a method for addressing everything from inequality
>and injustice to climate change.
>
>Allison Schrager is an economist, senior fellow at the Manhattan
>Institute, and co-founder of LifeCycle Finance Partners, LLC, a risk
>advisory firm. Twitter: @AllisonSchrager
>
>https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/15/socialism-wont-work-capitalism-still-
>best/

Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.

Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of change
should be throttled back to tolerable levels.

This can by accomplished by tariffs and inventive taxation, and border
restrictions.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 14:44:24 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 01:12:22 -0000 (UTC), RichTravsky
> <traRvEsTy@hatmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
>> With increasingly ubiquitous iPhones, internet, central air
>> conditioning,
>> flat-screen TVs, and indoor plumbing, few in the developed world would
>> want to go back to life 100, 30, or even 10 years ago. Indeed, around
>> the
>> world, the last two centuries have brought vast improvements in material
>> living standards; billions of people have been lifted from poverty, and
>> life expectancy across income levels has broadly risen. Most of that
>> progress came from capitalist economies.
>>
>> Yet those economies are not without their problems. In the United States
>> and the United Kingdom, the gap between the rich and poor has become
>> intolerably large as business owners and highly educated workers in
>> urban
>> areas have become richer while workers’ wages in rural areas have
>> stagnated. In most rich countries, more trade has brought a bigger,
>> better
>> variety of goods, but it has also displaced many jobs.
>>
>> With social instability in the form of mass protests, Brexit, the rise
>> of
>> populism, and deep polarization knocking at the capitalist economies’
>> doors, much of the progress of the last several decades is in peril. For
>> some pundits and policymakers, the solution is clear: socialism, which
>> tends to be cited as a method for addressing everything from inequality
>> and injustice to climate change.
>>
>> Allison Schrager is an economist, senior fellow at the Manhattan
>> Institute, and co-founder of LifeCycle Finance Partners, LLC, a risk
>> advisory firm. Twitter: @AllisonSchrager
>>
>> https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/15/socialism-wont-work-capitalism-still-
>> best/
>
> Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.
>
> Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
> attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of change
> should be throttled back to tolerable levels.
>
> This can by accomplished by tariffs and inventive taxation, and border
> restrictions.

Bullshit.

Have fun coming up with any inventive taxation that hasnt been tried
already.

>>
>> Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.
>>
>> Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
>> attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of change
>> should be throttled back to tolerable levels.
>>
>> This can by accomplished by tariffs and inventive taxation, and border
>> restrictions.
>
>Bullshit.

It is not bullshit, irredeemable one.
>
>Have fun coming up with any inventive taxation that hasnt been tried
>already.

Just because a system of taxation is old does not mean it cannot work
now, fossil.

As an example I would propose an inheritance tax to fund old-age care,
obdurate!

To dull the effect of noxious populism I propose extending the term of
governments; like doubling them, dullard!

Tariffs, border restrictions etc have been around forever. But I
would extend control to airports where a $2000 departure tax would
reduce the number of the idle poor throwing their money away at
oversea's gypsies, then crying poor at the "cost of living". Pay
attention!

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>>> Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.
>>>
>>> Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
>>> attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of change
>>> should be throttled back to tolerable levels.
>>>
>>> This can by accomplished by tariffs and inventive taxation, and border
>>> restrictions.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>
> It is not bullshit

Corse it is.

>> Have fun coming up with any inventive taxation that hasnt been tried
>> already.
>
> Just because a system of taxation is old does not mean it cannot work
> now, fossil.

But it does mean that it isnt INVENTIVE, stupid.

> As an example I would propose an inheritance tax

Nothing INVENTIVE about that, stupid.

> to fund old-age care,

Fuck that.

> To dull the effect of noxious populism I propose extending the term of
> governments; like doubling them,

Fuck that. We would have been stuck with that fool Whitless for twice as
long, stupid.

> Tariffs, border restrictions etc have been around forever.

So nothing INVENTIVE about them, dinosaur.

> But I
> would extend control to airports where a $2000 departure tax would
> reduce the number of the idle poor throwing their money away at
> oversea's gypsies, then crying poor at the "cost of living".

Not a chance of that ever being politically feasible, fool.

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 07:54:29 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>>>> Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.
>>>>
>>>> Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
>>>> attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of change
>>>> should be throttled back to tolerable levels.
>>>>
>>>> This can by accomplished by tariffs and inventive taxation, and border
>>>> restrictions.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> It is not bullshit
>
>Corse it is.

It is not bullshit, though I'm tempted to defer to your specialty,
boy.
>
>>> Have fun coming up with any inventive taxation that hasnt been tried
>>> already.
>>
>> Just because a system of taxation is old does not mean it cannot work
>> now, fossil.
>
>But it does mean that it isnt INVENTIVE, stupid.

I never said it HAD to be, though introducing it might be inventive of
politicians, nit-picker!
>
>> As an example I would propose an inheritance tax
>
>Nothing INVENTIVE about that, stupid.

No, so?
>
>> to fund old-age care,
>
>Fuck that.

Huh! Caught out; you're waiting for your poor old granny to croak,
wastrel!
>
>> To dull the effect of noxious populism I propose extending the term of
>> governments; like doubling them,
>
>Fuck that. We would have been stuck with that fool Whitless for twice as
>long, stupid.

He was thrown out before time, so there, fool!
>
>> Tariffs, border restrictions etc have been around forever.
>
>So nothing INVENTIVE about them, dinosaur.
>

>> But I
>> would extend control to airports where a $2000 departure tax would
>> reduce the number of the idle poor throwing their money away at
>> oversea's gypsies, then crying poor at the "cost of living".
>
>Not a chance of that ever being politically feasible, fool.

See above, about populism.

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:45:37 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 07:54:29 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
>>>>> attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of change
>>>>> should be throttled back to tolerable levels.
>>>>>
>>>>> This can by accomplished by tariffs and inventive taxation, and
>>>>> border
>>>>> restrictions.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>> It is not bullshit
>>
>> Corse it is.

> It is not bullshit,

Corse it is.

>>>> Have fun coming up with any inventive taxation that hasnt been tried
>>>> already.
>>>
>>> Just because a system of taxation is old does not mean it cannot work
>>> now, fossil.
>>
>> But it does mean that it isnt INVENTIVE, stupid.
>
> I never said it HAD to be,

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

> though introducing it might be inventive of
> politicians,

Nope, dope.

>>> As an example I would propose an inheritance tax

>> Nothing INVENTIVE about that, stupid.

> No, so?

So you made a spectacular fool of yourself, as always.

>>> to fund old-age care,

>> Fuck that.

> Huh! Caught out;

Nope, dope.

> you're waiting for your poor old granny to croak,

Nope. The first one to cark it did so just after I was born
and the second one produced no iheritance at all, just a
few towels were offered which I didnt need. She ran a
boarding house and had a stock of unused towels.

>>> To dull the effect of noxious populism I propose extending the term of
>>> governments; like doubling them,

>> Fuck that. We would have been stuck with that fool Whitless for twice as
>> long, stupid.

> He was thrown out before time,

Pity about that fool Gillard.

>>> Tariffs, border restrictions etc have been around forever.

>> So nothing INVENTIVE about them, dinosaur.

>>> But I
>>> would extend control to airports where a $2000 departure tax would
>>> reduce the number of the idle poor throwing their money away at
>>> oversea's gypsies, then crying poor at the "cost of living".
>>
>> Not a chance of that ever being politically feasible, fool.
>
> See above, about populism.

Completely useless as always with your mindless dinosaur shit.

On 1/9/23 8:12 PM, RichTravsky wrote:
> With increasingly ubiquitous iPhones, internet, central air conditioning,
> flat-screen TVs, and indoor plumbing, few in the developed world would
> want to go back to life 100, 30, or even 10 years ago. Indeed, around the
> world, the last two centuries have brought vast improvements in material
> living standards; billions of people have been lifted from poverty, and
> life expectancy across income levels has broadly risen. Most of that
> progress came from capitalist economies.
>
> Yet those economies are not without their problems. In the United States
> and the United Kingdom, the gap between the rich and poor has become
> intolerably large as business owners and highly educated workers in urban
> areas have become richer while workers’ wages in rural areas have
> stagnated. In most rich countries, more trade has brought a bigger, better
> variety of goods, but it has also displaced many jobs.
>
> With social instability in the form of mass protests, Brexit, the rise of
> populism, and deep polarization knocking at the capitalist economies’
> doors, much of the progress of the last several decades is in peril. For
> some pundits and policymakers, the solution is clear: socialism, which
> tends to be cited as a method for addressing everything from inequality
> and injustice to climate change.
>
> Allison Schrager is an economist, senior fellow at the Manhattan
> Institute, and co-founder of LifeCycle Finance Partners, LLC, a risk
> advisory firm. Twitter: @AllisonSchrager
>
> https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/15/socialism-wont-work-capitalism-still-
> best/

Why does my tax bill contain the school taxes. I have no children and no
plans for any children. Is this some kind of socialism that props up the
education industry/unions?

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 10:05:21 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:45:37 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 07:54:29 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>> Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
>>>>>> attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of change
>>>>>> should be throttled back to tolerable levels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This can by accomplished by tariffs and inventive taxation, and
>>>>>> border
>>>>>> restrictions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> It is not bullshit
>>>
>>> Corse it is.
>
>> It is not bullshit,
>
>Corse it is.
>
>>>>> Have fun coming up with any inventive taxation that hasnt been tried
>>>>> already.
>>>>
>>>> Just because a system of taxation is old does not mean it cannot work
>>>> now, fossil.
>>>
>>> But it does mean that it isnt INVENTIVE, stupid.
>>
>> I never said it HAD to be,
>
>You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
>
>> though introducing it might be inventive of
>> politicians,
>
>Nope, dope.
>
>>>> As an example I would propose an inheritance tax
>
>>> Nothing INVENTIVE about that, stupid.
>
>> No, so?
>
>So you made a spectacular fool of yourself, as always.
>
>>>> to fund old-age care,
>
>>> Fuck that.

So much for academic debate!
>
>> Huh! Caught out;
>
>Nope, dope.
>
>> you're waiting for your poor old granny to croak,
>
>Nope. The first one to cark it did so just after I was born
>and the second one produced no iheritance at all, just a
>few towels were offered which I didnt need. She ran a
>boarding house and had a stock of unused towels.

Hmmmmm...! I'm always suspicious of "grannies" who run "boarding
houses" for I've heard these establishments are not above suspicion.
Were there many "Gentleman Callers" at this "Boarding house"?
Well......this explains much! Especially manners!
>
>>>> To dull the effect of noxious populism I propose extending the term of
>>>> governments; like doubling them,
>
>>> Fuck that. We would have been stuck with that fool Whitless for twice as
>>> long, stupid.
>
>> He was thrown out before time,
>
>Pity about that fool Gillard.

Mad women self destruct!
>
>>>> Tariffs, border restrictions etc have been around forever.
>
>>> So nothing INVENTIVE about them, dinosaur.

You've laid an egg, brontosaurus. I never said so!
>
>>>> But I
>>>> would extend control to airports where a $2000 departure tax would
>>>> reduce the number of the idle poor throwing their money away at
>>>> oversea's gypsies, then crying poor at the "cost of living".
>>>
>>> Not a chance of that ever being politically feasible, fool.
>>
>> See above, about populism.
>
>Completely useless as always with your mindless dinosaur shit.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 18:19:59 -0500, Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:

>On 1/9/23 8:12 PM, RichTravsky wrote:
>> With increasingly ubiquitous iPhones, internet, central air conditioning,
>> flat-screen TVs, and indoor plumbing, few in the developed world would
>> want to go back to life 100, 30, or even 10 years ago. Indeed, around the
>> world, the last two centuries have brought vast improvements in material
>> living standards; billions of people have been lifted from poverty, and
>> life expectancy across income levels has broadly risen. Most of that
>> progress came from capitalist economies.
>>
>> Yet those economies are not without their problems. In the United States
>> and the United Kingdom, the gap between the rich and poor has become
>> intolerably large as business owners and highly educated workers in urban
>> areas have become richer while workers’ wages in rural areas have
>> stagnated. In most rich countries, more trade has brought a bigger, better
>> variety of goods, but it has also displaced many jobs.
>>
>> With social instability in the form of mass protests, Brexit, the rise of
>> populism, and deep polarization knocking at the capitalist economies’
>> doors, much of the progress of the last several decades is in peril. For
>> some pundits and policymakers, the solution is clear: socialism, which
>> tends to be cited as a method for addressing everything from inequality
>> and injustice to climate change.
>>
>> Allison Schrager is an economist, senior fellow at the Manhattan
>> Institute, and co-founder of LifeCycle Finance Partners, LLC, a risk
>> advisory firm. Twitter: @AllisonSchrager
>>
>> https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/15/socialism-wont-work-capitalism-still-
>> best/
>
>Why does my tax bill contain the school taxes. I have no children and no
>plans for any children. Is this some kind of socialism that props up the
>education industry/unions?
>

It all gets worse. The inexorable rise in gas & electricity prices
reflect new consumption taxes. I'll bet anything!

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 12:33:15 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 10:05:21 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:45:37 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 07:54:29 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
>>>>>>> attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> should be throttled back to tolerable levels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This can by accomplished by tariffs and inventive taxation, and
>>>>>>> border
>>>>>>> restrictions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not bullshit
>>>>
>>>> Corse it is.
>>
>>> It is not bullshit,
>>
>> Corse it is.
>>
>>>>>> Have fun coming up with any inventive taxation that hasnt been tried
>>>>>> already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just because a system of taxation is old does not mean it cannot work
>>>>> now, fossil.
>>>>
>>>> But it does mean that it isnt INVENTIVE, stupid.
>>>
>>> I never said it HAD to be,
>>
>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>
>>> though introducing it might be inventive of
>>> politicians,
>>
>> Nope, dope.
>>
>>>>> As an example I would propose an inheritance tax
>>
>>>> Nothing INVENTIVE about that, stupid.
>>
>>> No, so?
>>
>> So you made a spectacular fool of yourself, as always.
>>
>>>>> to fund old-age care,
>>
>>>> Fuck that.
>
> So much for academic debate!

You are no academic.

>>> Huh! Caught out;
>>
>> Nope, dope.
>>
>>> you're waiting for your poor old granny to croak,
>>
>> Nope. The first one to cark it did so just after I was born
>> and the second one produced no iheritance at all, just a
>> few towels were offered which I didnt need. She ran a
>> boarding house and had a stock of unused towels.

> Hmmmmm...! I'm always suspicious of "grannies" who run "boarding
> houses" for I've heard these establishments are not above suspicion.

More fool you. I actually stayed there for a few days back in the 50s.
The residents were only older men, one of them a stone mason who
made tombstones with his stuff in the back yard.

<reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

>>>>> To dull the effect of noxious populism I propose extending the term
>>>>> of
>>>>> governments; like doubling them,
>>
>>>> Fuck that. We would have been stuck with that fool Whitless for twice
>>>> as
>>>> long, stupid.
>>
>>> He was thrown out before time,
>>
>> Pity about that fool Gillard.
>
> Mad women self destruct!

She actually got the boot because even Labor had noticed that
she had no chance of winning the upcoming elections. If we had
actually been stupid enough to have double the length of term,
we would have been stuck with that stupid cow for twice as long.

Fuck that.

>>>>> Tariffs, border restrictions etc have been around forever.

>>>> So nothing INVENTIVE about them, dinosaur.

> I never said so!

Everyone can see that you did with taxation, liar.

>>>>> But I
>>>>> would extend control to airports where a $2000 departure tax would
>>>>> reduce the number of the idle poor throwing their money away at
>>>>> oversea's gypsies, then crying poor at the "cost of living".
>>>>
>>>> Not a chance of that ever being politically feasible, fool.
>>>
>>> See above, about populism.
>>
>> Completely useless as always with your mindless dinosaur shit.

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 12:35:09 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 18:19:59 -0500, Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1/9/23 8:12 PM, RichTravsky wrote:
>>> With increasingly ubiquitous iPhones, internet, central air
>>> conditioning,
>>> flat-screen TVs, and indoor plumbing, few in the developed world would
>>> want to go back to life 100, 30, or even 10 years ago. Indeed, around
>>> the
>>> world, the last two centuries have brought vast improvements in
>>> material
>>> living standards; billions of people have been lifted from poverty, and
>>> life expectancy across income levels has broadly risen. Most of that
>>> progress came from capitalist economies.
>>>
>>> Yet those economies are not without their problems. In the United
>>> States
>>> and the United Kingdom, the gap between the rich and poor has become
>>> intolerably large as business owners and highly educated workers in
>>> urban
>>> areas have become richer while workers’ wages in rural areas have
>>> stagnated. In most rich countries, more trade has brought a bigger,
>>> better
>>> variety of goods, but it has also displaced many jobs.
>>>
>>> With social instability in the form of mass protests, Brexit, the rise
>>> of
>>> populism, and deep polarization knocking at the capitalist economies’
>>> doors, much of the progress of the last several decades is in peril.
>>> For
>>> some pundits and policymakers, the solution is clear: socialism, which
>>> tends to be cited as a method for addressing everything from inequality
>>> and injustice to climate change.
>>>
>>> Allison Schrager is an economist, senior fellow at the Manhattan
>>> Institute, and co-founder of LifeCycle Finance Partners, LLC, a risk
>>> advisory firm. Twitter: @AllisonSchrager
>>>
>>> https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/15/socialism-wont-work-capitalism-still-
>>> best/
>>
>> Why does my tax bill contain the school taxes. I have no children and no
>> plans for any children. Is this some kind of socialism that props up the
>> education industry/unions?
>>
>
> It all gets worse. The inexorable rise in gas & electricity prices
> reflect new consumption taxes.

Nope, the ware in the Ukraines.

> I'll bet anything!

But you as such a piker you would never pay up.

Nic in full on anarcho capitalist wanker mode

/idiotic cross posting freak show terminated/

> RichTravsky wrote:
>> With increasingly ubiquitous iPhones, internet, central air conditioning,
>> flat-screen TVs, and indoor plumbing, few in the developed world would
>> want to go back to life 100, 30, or even 10 years ago. Indeed, around the
>> world, the last two centuries have brought vast improvements in material
>> living standards; billions of people have been lifted from poverty, and
>> life expectancy across income levels has broadly risen. Most of that
>> progress came from capitalist economies.
>>
YAWN1
You forgot to mention what else has happened since the glory days of the
unbridled anarcho capitalist dawn a couple of centuries ego:

Well, I list some great capitalist achievement just to refresh your mind:

Try child labor, hunger, poverty, unsafe and virtually intolerable
workplace practices brought on by the unbridled exploitation of working
class "subhumans", robber baron economy, brain dead consumerism,
fascism, two World Wars and dozens of local wars which were/are none the
less quite bloody, and of course, the poisoned and otherwise polluted
and destroyed environment featuring unmitigated AGW. That list is just
for starters....

>>
>> Yet those economies are not without their problems. In the United States
>> and the United Kingdom, the gap between the rich and poor has become
>> intolerably large as business owners and highly educated workers in urban
>> areas have become richer while workers’ wages in rural areas have
>> stagnated. In most rich countries, more trade has brought a bigger,
>> better
>> variety of goods, but it has also displaced many jobs.
>>
>> With social instability in the form of mass protests, Brexit, the rise of
>> populism, and deep polarization knocking at the capitalist economies’
>> doors, much of the progress of the last several decades is in peril. For
>> some pundits and policymakers, the solution is clear: socialism, which
>> tends to be cited as a method for addressing everything from inequality
>> and injustice to climate change.
>>
>> Allison Schrager is an economist, senior fellow at the Manhattan
>> Institute, and co-founder of LifeCycle Finance Partners, LLC, a risk
>> advisory firm. Twitter: @AllisonSchrager
>>
>> https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/15/socialism-wont-work-capitalism-still-
>> best/
>
No, capitalism isn't the best and yes, there are better alternatives
despite your denialism...

~~~
Debunked: "Socialism Has Never Worked"
/David Pakman Show, 1.59M subscribers, 981K views/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k79wCaFgU40>

"Our long form deep dive debunking the false notion that "socialism has
never worked.""
~~~

> Why does my tax bill contain the school taxes. I have no children and no
> plans for any children. Is this some kind of socialism that props up the
> education industry/unions?

Feel free to remove ego maniac rabid capitalist self from our diverse,
mutually respect, egalitarian values and democracy aspiring society to a
deserted island somewhere the middle of nowhere where you can set up
completely undisturbed your preferential anarcho capitalists libertarian
hermit existence w/o any interference from human society and the
associated perks and obligations.

--
Ördög
"A reminder for your mortification"

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:05:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 12:33:15 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 10:05:21 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:45:37 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 07:54:29 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
>>>>>>>> attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of
>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>> should be throttled back to tolerable levels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This can by accomplished by tariffs and inventive taxation, and
>>>>>>>> border
>>>>>>>> restrictions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not bullshit
>>>>>
>>>>> Corse it is.
>>>
>>>> It is not bullshit,
>>>
>>> Corse it is.
>>>
>>>>>>> Have fun coming up with any inventive taxation that hasnt been tried
>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just because a system of taxation is old does not mean it cannot work
>>>>>> now, fossil.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it does mean that it isnt INVENTIVE, stupid.
>>>>
>>>> I never said it HAD to be,
>>>
>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>>
>>>> though introducing it might be inventive of
>>>> politicians,
>>>
>>> Nope, dope.
>>>
>>>>>> As an example I would propose an inheritance tax
>>>
>>>>> Nothing INVENTIVE about that, stupid.
>>>
>>>> No, so?
>>>
>>> So you made a spectacular fool of yourself, as always.
>>>
>>>>>> to fund old-age care,
>>>
>>>>> Fuck that.
>>
>> So much for academic debate!
>
>You are no academic.

How RUDE! And you're the one acting like an ape!
>
>>>> Huh! Caught out;
>>>
>>> Nope, dope.
>>>
>>>> you're waiting for your poor old granny to croak,
>>>
>>> Nope. The first one to cark it did so just after I was born
>>> and the second one produced no iheritance at all, just a
>>> few towels were offered which I didnt need. She ran a
>>> boarding house and had a stock of unused towels.
>
>> Hmmmmm...! I'm always suspicious of "grannies" who run "boarding
>> houses" for I've heard these establishments are not above suspicion.
>
>More fool you. I actually stayed there for a few days back in the 50s.
>The residents were only older men, one of them a stone mason who
>made tombstones with his stuff in the back yard.
>
><reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>belongs>
>
>>>>>> To dull the effect of noxious populism I propose extending the term
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> governments; like doubling them,
>>>
>>>>> Fuck that. We would have been stuck with that fool Whitless for twice
>>>>> as
>>>>> long, stupid.
>>>
>>>> He was thrown out before time,
>>>
>>> Pity about that fool Gillard.
>>
>> Mad women self destruct!
>
>She actually got the boot because even Labor had noticed that
>she had no chance of winning the upcoming elections. If we had
>actually been stupid enough to have double the length of term,
>we would have been stuck with that stupid cow for twice as long.
>
>Fuck that.
>
>>>>>> Tariffs, border restrictions etc have been around forever.
>
>>>>> So nothing INVENTIVE about them, dinosaur.
>
>> I never said so!
>
>Everyone can see that you did with taxation, liar.
>
>>>>>> But I
>>>>>> would extend control to airports where a $2000 departure tax would
>>>>>> reduce the number of the idle poor throwing their money away at
>>>>>> oversea's gypsies, then crying poor at the "cost of living".
>>>>>
>>>>> Not a chance of that ever being politically feasible, fool.
>>>>
>>>> See above, about populism.
>>>
>>> Completely useless as always with your mindless dinosaur shit.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 07:20:31 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:05:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 12:33:15 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 10:05:21 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:45:37 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 07:54:29 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
>>>>>>>>> attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of
>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>> should be throttled back to tolerable levels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This can by accomplished by tariffs and inventive taxation, and
>>>>>>>>> border
>>>>>>>>> restrictions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is not bullshit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Corse it is.
>>>>
>>>>> It is not bullshit,
>>>>
>>>> Corse it is.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have fun coming up with any inventive taxation that hasnt been
>>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just because a system of taxation is old does not mean it cannot
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> now, fossil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it does mean that it isnt INVENTIVE, stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said it HAD to be,
>>>>
>>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>>>
>>>>> though introducing it might be inventive of
>>>>> politicians,
>>>>
>>>> Nope, dope.
>>>>
>>>>>>> As an example I would propose an inheritance tax
>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing INVENTIVE about that, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> No, so?
>>>>
>>>> So you made a spectacular fool of yourself, as always.
>>>>
>>>>>>> to fund old-age care,
>>>>
>>>>>> Fuck that.
>>>
>>> So much for academic debate!
>>
>> You are no academic.
>
> How RUDE!

Just the facts, stupid.

> And you're the one acting like an ape!

Nope, just rubbing your nose in the
basics, nothing ape like about that.

>>>>> Huh! Caught out;
>>>>
>>>> Nope, dope.
>>>>
>>>>> you're waiting for your poor old granny to croak,
>>>>
>>>> Nope. The first one to cark it did so just after I was born
>>>> and the second one produced no iheritance at all, just a
>>>> few towels were offered which I didnt need. She ran a
>>>> boarding house and had a stock of unused towels.
>>
>>> Hmmmmm...! I'm always suspicious of "grannies" who run "boarding
>>> houses" for I've heard these establishments are not above suspicion.
>>
>> More fool you. I actually stayed there for a few days back in the 50s.
>> The residents were only older men, one of them a stone mason who
>> made tombstones with his stuff in the back yard.
>>
>> <reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>> belongs>
>>
>>>>>>> To dull the effect of noxious populism I propose extending the term
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> governments; like doubling them,
>>>>
>>>>>> Fuck that. We would have been stuck with that fool Whitless for
>>>>>> twice
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> long, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> He was thrown out before time,
>>>>
>>>> Pity about that fool Gillard.
>>>
>>> Mad women self destruct!
>>
>> She actually got the boot because even Labor had noticed that
>> she had no chance of winning the upcoming elections. If we had
>> actually been stupid enough to have double the length of term,
>> we would have been stuck with that stupid cow for twice as long.
>>
>> Fuck that.
>>
>>>>>>> Tariffs, border restrictions etc have been around forever.
>>
>>>>>> So nothing INVENTIVE about them, dinosaur.
>>
>>> I never said so!
>>
>> Everyone can see that you did with taxation, liar.
>>
>>>>>>> But I
>>>>>>> would extend control to airports where a $2000 departure tax would
>>>>>>> reduce the number of the idle poor throwing their money away at
>>>>>>> oversea's gypsies, then crying poor at the "cost of living".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a chance of that ever being politically feasible, fool.
>>>>>
>>>>> See above, about populism.
>>>>
>>>> Completely useless as always with your mindless dinosaur shit.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 07:20:31 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:05:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 12:33:15 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 10:05:21 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:45:37 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 07:54:29 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Part, if not all of the problem is the rapid rate of change.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Given that the human life span is roughly constant, and peoples'
>>>>>>>>> attitudes rarely change after the age of about 30, the rate of
>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>> should be throttled back to tolerable levels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This can by accomplished by tariffs

We aren't going to have tariffs again so we have to pay
more for what we need from useless parasites like you.

>>>>>>>>> and inventive taxation, and
>>>>>>>>> border
>>>>>>>>> restrictions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is not bullshit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Corse it is.
>>>>
>>>>> It is not bullshit,
>>>>
>>>> Corse it is.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have fun coming up with any inventive taxation that hasnt been
>>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just because a system of taxation is old does not mean it cannot
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> now, fossil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it does mean that it isnt INVENTIVE, stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said it HAD to be,
>>>>
>>>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>>>
>>>>> though introducing it might be inventive of
>>>>> politicians,
>>>>
>>>> Nope, dope.
>>>>
>>>>>>> As an example I would propose an inheritance tax
>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing INVENTIVE about that, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> No, so?
>>>>
>>>> So you made a spectacular fool of yourself, as always.
>>>>
>>>>>>> to fund old-age care,
>>>>
>>>>>> Fuck that.
>>>
>>> So much for academic debate!
>>
>> You are no academic.
>
> How RUDE! And you're the one acting like an ape!
>>
>>>>> Huh! Caught out;
>>>>
>>>> Nope, dope.
>>>>
>>>>> you're waiting for your poor old granny to croak,
>>>>
>>>> Nope. The first one to cark it did so just after I was born
>>>> and the second one produced no iheritance at all, just a
>>>> few towels were offered which I didnt need. She ran a
>>>> boarding house and had a stock of unused towels.
>>
>>> Hmmmmm...! I'm always suspicious of "grannies" who run "boarding
>>> houses" for I've heard these establishments are not above suspicion.
>>
>> More fool you. I actually stayed there for a few days back in the 50s.
>> The residents were only older men, one of them a stone mason who
>> made tombstones with his stuff in the back yard.
>>
>> <reams of your shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
>> belongs>
>>
>>>>>>> To dull the effect of noxious populism I propose extending the term
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> governments; like doubling them,
>>>>
>>>>>> Fuck that. We would have been stuck with that fool Whitless for
>>>>>> twice
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> long, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> He was thrown out before time,
>>>>
>>>> Pity about that fool Gillard.
>>>
>>> Mad women self destruct!
>>
>> She actually got the boot because even Labor had noticed that
>> she had no chance of winning the upcoming elections. If we had
>> actually been stupid enough to have double the length of term,
>> we would have been stuck with that stupid cow for twice as long.
>>
>> Fuck that.
>>
>>>>>>> Tariffs, border restrictions etc have been around forever.
>>
>>>>>> So nothing INVENTIVE about them, dinosaur.
>>
>>> I never said so!
>>
>> Everyone can see that you did with taxation, liar.
>>
>>>>>>> But I
>>>>>>> would extend control to airports where a $2000 departure tax would
>>>>>>> reduce the number of the idle poor throwing their money away at
>>>>>>> oversea's gypsies, then crying poor at the "cost of living".

We aren't stupid enough to allow any govt tell us what we can do on
holiday.

>>>>>> Not a chance of that ever being politically feasible, fool.
>>>>>
>>>>> See above, about populism.
>>>>
>>>> Completely useless as always with your mindless dinosaur shit.

On 1/11/23 3:31 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> We aren't stupid enough to allow any govt tell us what we can do on
> holiday.

Did you have a Christmas party Dec. 25, 2021?

Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> We aren't stupid enough to allow any govt tell us what we can do on
>> holiday.

> Did you have a Christmas party Dec. 25, 2021?

What I have done about covid has nothing to do with any govt
and I have in fact been much safer than any govt required.

And I am the only one I know who has not been infected as a result.

On 1/11/23 4:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>
>>> We aren't stupid enough to allow any govt tell us what we can do on
>>> holiday.
>
>> Did you have a Christmas party Dec. 25, 2021?
>
> What I have done about covid has nothing to do with any govt
> and I have in fact been much safer than any govt required.
>
> And I am the only one I know who has not been infected as a result.

You have an odd way to evade my question, Did you have a Christmas party
Dec. 25, 2021?

Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote

>>>> We aren't stupid enough to allow any govt tell us what we can do on
>>>> holiday.

>>> Did you have a Christmas party Dec. 25, 2021?

>> What I have done about covid has nothing to do with any govt
>> and I have in fact been much safer than any govt required.

>> And I am the only one I know who has not been infected as a result.

> You have an odd way to evade my question,

I didn't evade your question.

> Did you have a Christmas party Dec. 25, 2021?

Nope, because I choose not to, nothing to do with any govt.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 09:40:51 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>
>>>>> We aren't stupid enough to allow any govt tell us what we can do on
>>>>> holiday.
>
>>>> Did you have a Christmas party Dec. 25, 2021?
>
>>> What I have done about covid has nothing to do with any govt
>>> and I have in fact been much safer than any govt required.
>
>>> And I am the only one I know who has not been infected as a result.
>
>> You have an odd way to evade my question,
>
>I didn't evade your question.
>
>> Did you have a Christmas party Dec. 25, 2021?
>
>Nope, because I choose not to, nothing to do with any govt.

The bitter truth is that having being ejected from countless
festivities, you have become a GRINCH!

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:07:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 12:35:09 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 18:19:59 -0500, Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/9/23 8:12 PM, RichTravsky wrote:
>>>> With increasingly ubiquitous iPhones, internet, central air
>>>> conditioning,
>>>> flat-screen TVs, and indoor plumbing, few in the developed world would
>>>> want to go back to life 100, 30, or even 10 years ago. Indeed, around
>>>> the
>>>> world, the last two centuries have brought vast improvements in
>>>> material
>>>> living standards; billions of people have been lifted from poverty, and
>>>> life expectancy across income levels has broadly risen. Most of that
>>>> progress came from capitalist economies.
>>>>
>>>> Yet those economies are not without their problems. In the United
>>>> States
>>>> and the United Kingdom, the gap between the rich and poor has become
>>>> intolerably large as business owners and highly educated workers in
>>>> urban
>>>> areas have become richer while workers’ wages in rural areas have
>>>> stagnated. In most rich countries, more trade has brought a bigger,
>>>> better
>>>> variety of goods, but it has also displaced many jobs.
>>>>
>>>> With social instability in the form of mass protests, Brexit, the rise
>>>> of
>>>> populism, and deep polarization knocking at the capitalist economies’
>>>> doors, much of the progress of the last several decades is in peril.
>>>> For
>>>> some pundits and policymakers, the solution is clear: socialism, which
>>>> tends to be cited as a method for addressing everything from inequality
>>>> and injustice to climate change.
>>>>
>>>> Allison Schrager is an economist, senior fellow at the Manhattan
>>>> Institute, and co-founder of LifeCycle Finance Partners, LLC, a risk
>>>> advisory firm. Twitter: @AllisonSchrager
>>>>
>>>> https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/15/socialism-wont-work-capitalism-still-
>>>> best/
>>>
>>> Why does my tax bill contain the school taxes. I have no children and no
>>> plans for any children. Is this some kind of socialism that props up the
>>> education industry/unions?
>>>
>>
>> It all gets worse. The inexorable rise in gas & electricity prices
>> reflect new consumption taxes.
>
>Nope, the ware in the Ukraines.
>
>> I'll bet anything!
>
>But you as such a piker you would never pay up.

Wot with? I'm impecunious due to govt policies.

>>>
>>> She actually got the boot because even Labor had noticed that
>>> she had no chance of winning the upcoming elections. If we had
>>> actually been stupid enough to have double the length of term,
>>> we would have been stuck with that stupid cow for twice as long.
>>>
>>> Fuck that.
>>>
>>>>>>>> Tariffs, border restrictions etc have been around forever.
>>>
>>>>>>> So nothing INVENTIVE about them, dinosaur.
>>>
>>>> I never said so!
>>>
>>> Everyone can see that you did with taxation, liar.
>>>
>>>>>>>> But I
>>>>>>>> would extend control to airports where a $2000 departure tax would
>>>>>>>> reduce the number of the idle poor throwing their money away at
>>>>>>>> oversea's gypsies, then crying poor at the "cost of living".
>
>We aren't stupid enough to allow any govt tell us what we can do on
>holiday.

Surely any government can impose currency restrictions, as they
should, especially since the Dear Great Unwashed...

1/ Accept Oz wages and spend these on overseas goods.
2/ And travel to do it!

Only the ignorant need a view!
>
>>>>>>> Not a chance of that ever being politically feasible, fool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See above, about populism.
>>>>>
>>>>> Completely useless as always with your mindless dinosaur shit.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 11:24:53 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:07:19 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 12:35:09 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 18:19:59 -0500, Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/9/23 8:12 PM, RichTravsky wrote:
>>>>> With increasingly ubiquitous iPhones, internet, central air
>>>>> conditioning,
>>>>> flat-screen TVs, and indoor plumbing, few in the developed world
>>>>> would
>>>>> want to go back to life 100, 30, or even 10 years ago. Indeed, around
>>>>> the
>>>>> world, the last two centuries have brought vast improvements in
>>>>> material
>>>>> living standards; billions of people have been lifted from poverty,
>>>>> and
>>>>> life expectancy across income levels has broadly risen. Most of that
>>>>> progress came from capitalist economies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet those economies are not without their problems. In the United
>>>>> States
>>>>> and the United Kingdom, the gap between the rich and poor has become
>>>>> intolerably large as business owners and highly educated workers in
>>>>> urban
>>>>> areas have become richer while workers’ wages in rural areas have
>>>>> stagnated. In most rich countries, more trade has brought a bigger,
>>>>> better
>>>>> variety of goods, but it has also displaced many jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>> With social instability in the form of mass protests, Brexit, the
>>>>> rise
>>>>> of
>>>>> populism, and deep polarization knocking at the capitalist economies’
>>>>> doors, much of the progress of the last several decades is in peril.
>>>>> For
>>>>> some pundits and policymakers, the solution is clear: socialism,
>>>>> which
>>>>> tends to be cited as a method for addressing everything from
>>>>> inequality
>>>>> and injustice to climate change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Allison Schrager is an economist, senior fellow at the Manhattan
>>>>> Institute, and co-founder of LifeCycle Finance Partners, LLC, a risk
>>>>> advisory firm. Twitter: @AllisonSchrager
>>>>>
>>>>> https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/15/socialism-wont-work-capitalism-still-
>>>>> best/
>>>>
>>>> Why does my tax bill contain the school taxes. I have no children and
>>>> no
>>>> plans for any children. Is this some kind of socialism that props up
>>>> the
>>>> education industry/unions?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It all gets worse. The inexorable rise in gas & electricity prices
>>> reflect new consumption taxes.
>>
>> Nope, the ware in the Ukraines.
>>
>>> I'll bet anything!
>>
>> But you as such a piker you would never pay up.
>
> Wot with? I'm impecunious due to govt policies.

Nope, because you can't compete with better operations.