On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 20:08:12 +0100, RustyHinge
<rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

>These range from acting as a base for adding more material to in order
>to molish remoulds, cutting them about a bit and turning them inside-out
>to molish plant containers, tying them on the side of boats to prevent
>them getting damaged when in harbours, they make fine barriers to
>protect spectators when piled, joined or just piled, round racetracks
>etc, for being hung-up for kids to swing about in and loads of other uses.
>
>Not enough, thobut.

Also for cement, the making of.

Used to fire the kilns, and the iron in the wires also does something useful,
apparently.

Thomas Prufer

"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
news:471xW5BvjDnkFA3e@salmiron.com:

> In article <XnsB03193E4CB1C9Factura3476@135.181.20.170>, Peter
> <myshed@prune.org.uk> on Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 13:32:19 awoke Nicholas
> from his slumbers and wrote
>>Julian Macassey <julian@n6are.com> wrote in
>>news:slrnu9o5ta.1ip83.julian@n6are.com:
>>
>>> On 27 Jun 2023 20:42:09 GMT, maus <maus@darkstar.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They were widely used here for covering silage pits, then that was
>>>> made illegal. Dunno why. the weirdos think uplaws like that, then
>>>> forget why,
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mosquitoes. Rain collects in them and mosquitoes lay eggs
>>> in them.
>>>
>>
>>Huge tonnages of them were being exported to developing countries just
>>to dump, not recycle. It was the mosquito problem that got that
>>stopped. Eventually. But there are stll enourmous piles of discarded
>>European tyres in Africa. (the transpondian ones used to go to South
>>America - might still do, AFAIK).
>>
> They can be turned into sort of mastic and used to repair potholes.
> Not sure how friendly that is to the environment.

Quite benign, I would have thought. Better than leaving them to catch fire
- a big pile of them is a nightmare to extinguish if it combusts.

--
Peter
-----

Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote in
news:dblo9ipio6b0vo7ac1262ir6aj8ujegmuk@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 20:08:12 +0100, RustyHinge
> <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>These range from acting as a base for adding more material to in
>>order to molish remoulds, cutting them about a bit and turning them
>>inside-out to molish plant containers, tying them on the side of boats
>>to prevent them getting damaged when in harbours, they make fine
>>barriers to protect spectators when piled, joined or just piled, round
>>racetracks etc, for being hung-up for kids to swing about in and loads
>>of other uses.
>>
>>Not enough, thobut.
>
> Also for cement, the making of.
>
> Used to fire the kilns, and the iron in the wires also does something
> useful, apparently.

There's quite a lot of controversy about using cement kilns to burn
industrial waste, including tyres. It's a way of getting round the
regulations that impose strict limits on incinerator emmissions.

--
Peter
-----

On 28/06/2023 16:57, Peter wrote:
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
> news:471xW5BvjDnkFA3e@salmiron.com:
>
>> In article <XnsB03193E4CB1C9Factura3476@135.181.20.170>, Peter
>> <myshed@prune.org.uk> on Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 13:32:19 awoke Nicholas
>> from his slumbers and wrote
>>> Julian Macassey <julian@n6are.com> wrote in
>>> news:slrnu9o5ta.1ip83.julian@n6are.com:
>>>
>>>> On 27 Jun 2023 20:42:09 GMT, maus <maus@darkstar.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> They were widely used here for covering silage pits, then that was
>>>>> made illegal. Dunno why. the weirdos think uplaws like that, then
>>>>> forget why,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mosquitoes. Rain collects in them and mosquitoes lay eggs
>>>> in them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Huge tonnages of them were being exported to developing countries just
>>> to dump, not recycle. It was the mosquito problem that got that
>>> stopped. Eventually. But there are stll enourmous piles of discarded
>>> European tyres in Africa. (the transpondian ones used to go to South
>>> America - might still do, AFAIK).
>>>
>> They can be turned into sort of mastic and used to repair potholes.
>> Not sure how friendly that is to the environment.
>
> Quite benign, I would have thought. Better than leaving them to catch fire
> - a big pile of them is a nightmare to extinguish if it combusts.

ITY(S)M 'if someone comusts it'.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:57:42 +0100
Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:

> In message <pxImM.245512$mzn5.143100@fx09.ams1>, Sam Plusnet
> <not@home.com> writes
> >The Past: You can't get there from here.
> >
>
> There are some who like a challenge.
>
I personally, have seen a TV program that featured a flint-knapper and an
olde archery type. Not sure to what extent they get their
fhfgranapr from eating wild deer.
(meh)^

vapburerapr

better!

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On 2023-06-28, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:57:42 +0100
> Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> wrote:
>
>> In message <pxImM.245512$mzn5.143100@fx09.ams1>, Sam Plusnet
>> <not@home.com> writes
>> >The Past: You can't get there from here.
>> >
>>
>> There are some who like a challenge.
>>
> I personally, have seen a TV program that featured a flint-knapper and an
> olde archery type. Not sure to what extent they get their
> fhfgranapr from eating wild deer.
> (meh)^
>
> vapburerapr
>
> better!
>
>

Looking at my favourite utube video, Queen at Wembley, 1986, makes me
think that all the young people there are approaching 60 now.

--
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RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote in
news:u7hnr2$1qjhp$1@dont-email.me:

> On 28/06/2023 16:57, Peter wrote:
>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
>> news:471xW5BvjDnkFA3e@salmiron.com:
>>
>>> In article <XnsB03193E4CB1C9Factura3476@135.181.20.170>, Peter
>>> <myshed@prune.org.uk> on Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 13:32:19 awoke
>>> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>>> Julian Macassey <julian@n6are.com> wrote in
>>>> news:slrnu9o5ta.1ip83.julian@n6are.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27 Jun 2023 20:42:09 GMT, maus <maus@darkstar.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They were widely used here for covering silage pits, then that
>>>>>> was made illegal. Dunno why. the weirdos think uplaws like that,
>>>>>> then forget why,
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mosquitoes. Rain collects in them and mosquitoes lay eggs
>>>>> in them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Huge tonnages of them were being exported to developing countries
>>>> just to dump, not recycle. It was the mosquito problem that got
>>>> that stopped. Eventually. But there are stll enourmous piles of
>>>> discarded European tyres in Africa. (the transpondian ones used to
>>>> go to South America - might still do, AFAIK).
>>>>
>>> They can be turned into sort of mastic and used to repair potholes.
>>> Not sure how friendly that is to the environment.
>>
>> Quite benign, I would have thought. Better than leaving them to catch
>> fire - a big pile of them is a nightmare to extinguish if it
>> combusts.
>
> ITY(S)M 'if someone comusts it'.
>

Not nessy cellery. Spontaneous combustion can happen in these big tyre
dumps.

--
Peter
-----

On 28/06/2023 17:41, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 28/06/2023 16:57, Peter wrote:

>> Quite benign, I would have thought. Better than leaving them to catch
>> fire
>> - a big pile of them is a nightmare to extinguish if it combusts.
>
> ITY(S)M 'if someone comusts it'.
>
There are many scrapyards and recycling centres who will swear blind
that they are prone to spontaneous combustion. The last one within sight
of where I was living took three days to put out.

Near the Dunlop factory in Birmingham, where they make hairyplane tyres
now and used to make tyres for Jaguar cars, which were made in a factory
next door, there is a plant to burn them cleanly to produce electrickery.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 28/06/2023 18:02, Peter wrote:
> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote in
> news:u7hnr2$1qjhp$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 28/06/2023 16:57, Peter wrote:
>>> Quite benign, I would have thought. Better than leaving them to catch
>>> fire - a big pile of them is a nightmare to extinguish if it
>>> combusts.
>>
>> ITY(S)M 'if someone comusts it'.
>>
>
> Not nessy cellery. Spontaneous combustion can happen in these big tyre
> dumps.
>
You do sometimes need to search hard to find the matches, but they will
be there somewhere.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 28/06/2023 18:02, Peter wrote:
> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote in
> news:u7hnr2$1qjhp$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 28/06/2023 16:57, Peter wrote:
>>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
>>> news:471xW5BvjDnkFA3e@salmiron.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <XnsB03193E4CB1C9Factura3476@135.181.20.170>, Peter
>>>> <myshed@prune.org.uk> on Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 13:32:19 awoke
>>>> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>>>> Julian Macassey <julian@n6are.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:slrnu9o5ta.1ip83.julian@n6are.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27 Jun 2023 20:42:09 GMT, maus <maus@darkstar.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They were widely used here for covering silage pits, then that
>>>>>>> was made illegal. Dunno why. the weirdos think uplaws like that,
>>>>>>> then forget why,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mosquitoes. Rain collects in them and mosquitoes lay eggs
>>>>>> in them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Huge tonnages of them were being exported to developing countries
>>>>> just to dump, not recycle. It was the mosquito problem that got
>>>>> that stopped. Eventually. But there are stll enourmous piles of
>>>>> discarded European tyres in Africa. (the transpondian ones used to
>>>>> go to South America - might still do, AFAIK).
>>>>>
>>>> They can be turned into sort of mastic and used to repair potholes.
>>>> Not sure how friendly that is to the environment.
>>>
>>> Quite benign, I would have thought. Better than leaving them to catch
>>> fire - a big pile of them is a nightmare to extinguish if it
>>> combusts.
>>
>> ITY(S)M 'if someone comusts it'.
>>
>
> Not nessy cellery. Spontaneous combustion can happen in these big tyre
> dumps.
>

Esp. in Springfield

--

Chris Elvidge, England
I SAW NOTHING UNUSUAL IN THE TEACHER'S LOUNGE

On 28/06/2023 14:32, Peter wrote:
> Julian Macassey <julian@n6are.com> wrote in
> news:slrnu9o5ta.1ip83.julian@n6are.com:
>
>> On 27 Jun 2023 20:42:09 GMT, maus <maus@darkstar.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> They were widely used here for covering silage pits, then that was made
>>> illegal. Dunno why. the weirdos think uplaws like that, then forget
>>> why,
>>>
>>
>> Mosquitoes. Rain collects in them and mosquitoes lay eggs
>> in them.
>>
>
> Huge tonnages of them were being exported to developing countries just to
> dump, not recycle. It was the mosquito problem that got that stopped.
> Eventually. But there are stll enourmous piles of discarded European tyres
> in Africa. (the transpondian ones used to go to South America - might still
> do, AFAIK).
>

Just to the NW of the A638 junction of the A1(M) north of Doncaster,
there is an infilled quarry that is full of tyres. They were dumping
them in there for years in the 70s & 80s when I ran plant in and out of
the adjacent yard.

Useta have photos prior to the last divorce.

Tone

On 28/06/2023 00:09, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 27/06/2023 22:29, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 27/06/2023 09:51, maus wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-27, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>     Going backwards is always a mistake, the past cannot be reached.
>>>
>>> Someone once said that you start out going to where you want to go, and
>>> finish up going where you have to go. Most of the proposals that city
>>> folk propose are time wasting things.
>>
>> The Past:  You can't get there from here.
>
> All one-way-streets that connect to here and now, and all feeding inwards.
>
> And reversing doesn't help, I've tried.
>
Despite the number of unguents SWMBO buys, which claim to reverse the
signs of ageing.

On 28/06/2023 14:43, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <XnsB03193E4CB1C9Factura3476@135.181.20.170>, Peter
> <myshed@prune.org.uk> on Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 13:32:19 awoke Nicholas
> from his slumbers and wrote
>> Julian Macassey <julian@n6are.com> wrote in
>> news:slrnu9o5ta.1ip83.julian@n6are.com:
>>
>>> On 27 Jun 2023 20:42:09 GMT, maus <maus@darkstar.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They were widely used here for covering silage pits, then that was made
>>>> illegal. Dunno why. the weirdos think uplaws like that, then forget
>>>> why,
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mosquitoes. Rain collects in them and mosquitoes lay eggs
>>> in them.
>>>
>>
>> Huge tonnages of them were being exported to developing countries just to
>> dump, not recycle. It was the mosquito problem that got that stopped.
>> Eventually. But there are stll enourmous piles of discarded European tyres
>> in Africa. (the transpondian ones used to go to South America - might still
>> do, AFAIK).
>>
> They can be turned into sort of mastic and used to repair potholes. Not
> sure how friendly that is to the environment.

There was a flourishing trade, in some countries, in turning sections of
tyre tread into footwear.
Terrific grip in wet conditions.

On 28/06/2023 16:45, Thomas Prufer wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 20:08:12 +0100, RustyHinge
> <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> These range from acting as a base for adding more material to in order
>> to molish remoulds, cutting them about a bit and turning them inside-out
>> to molish plant containers, tying them on the side of boats to prevent
>> them getting damaged when in harbours, they make fine barriers to
>> protect spectators when piled, joined or just piled, round racetracks
>> etc, for being hung-up for kids to swing about in and loads of other uses.
>>
>> Not enough, thobut.
>
> Also for cement, the making of.
>
> Used to fire the kilns, and the iron in the wires also does something useful,
> apparently.

Garden irrigation hose (leaky hose type) useta be made from finely
chopped tyres. I don't know if they still do, since there were concerns
about the contamination in tyres entering the food chain.

On 28/06/2023 22:04, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 28/06/2023 16:45, Thomas Prufer wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 20:08:12 +0100, RustyHinge
>> <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> These range from  acting as a base for adding more material to in order
>>> to molish remoulds, cutting them about a bit and turning them inside-out
>>> to molish plant containers, tying them on the side of boats to prevent
>>> them getting damaged when in harbours, they make fine barriers to
>>> protect spectators when piled, joined or just piled, round racetracks
>>> etc, for being hung-up for kids to swing about in and loads of other
>>> uses.
>>>
>>> Not enough, thobut.
>>
>> Also for cement, the making of.
>>
>> Used to fire the kilns, and the iron in the wires also does something
>> useful,
>> apparently.
>
> Garden irrigation hose (leaky hose type) useta be made from finely
> chopped tyres.  I don't know if they still do, since there were concerns
> about the contamination in tyres entering the food chain.

Town & Country carrots? Low Profile runner beans? Roadster rhubarb?
Radiaol radishes?

Yum!

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 2023-06-28, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 28/06/2023 14:43, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>> In article <XnsB03193E4CB1C9Factura3476@135.181.20.170>, Peter
>> <myshed@prune.org.uk> on Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 13:32:19 awoke Nicholas
>>> do, AFAIK).
>>>
>> They can be turned into sort of mastic and used to repair potholes. Not
>> sure how friendly that is to the environment.
>
> There was a flourishing trade, in some countries, in turning sections of
> tyre tread into footwear.
> Terrific grip in wet conditions.

Common in Vietnam during their problem with the US.

I have worn crocs for several years.

--
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Boris, The Once and Future P.M.
Fe, Fi, Fo, Fum, I smell the stench of Influencers

Sam Plusnet wrote:

> Garden irrigation hose (leaky hose type) useta be made from finely
> chopped tyres.

Path and lawn edging molished from upcycled tyres seems to be quite
geraql at the moment

On 27/06/2023 20:08, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 27/06/2023 14:34, maus wrote:
>
>> Tyres are made, as far as I know (tm) of treesap, and are like the big
>> battery, have now way of being used for anything after
>>
> Tyres are made from (mainly) oil-based compounds, carbon, other
> chemicals to adjust basic properties to suit vehicular use and have many
> uses once all-wore-up.
>
> These range from  acting as a base for adding more material to in order
> to molish remoulds, cutting them about a bit and turning them inside-out
> to molish plant containers, tying them on the side of boats to prevent
> them getting damaged when in harbours, they make fine barriers to
> protect spectators when piled, joined or just piled, round racetracks
> etc, for being hung-up for kids to swing about in and loads of other uses.
>
> Not enough, thobut.

My last-but-one employer aTmpca pioneered using shredded tyres as a
component in road construction.

On 29/06/2023 17:41, Mike Fleming wrote:
>
> aTmpca

Where did that p come from? aTmrca

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:41:01 +0100
Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:

> My last-but-one employer aTmpca pioneered using shredded tyres as a
> component in road construction.

Is that the stuff that doesn't pothole ?

--
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Host: Beautiful Theory meet Inconvenient Fact
Obit: Beautiful Theory died today of factual inconsistency

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 18:26:32 +0100
Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:

> On 29/06/2023 17:41, Mike Fleming wrote:
> >
> > aTmpca
>
> Where did that p come from? aTmrca

You yanks have a rubbish railway system and even worse spelin.

It's /AmTrak/, ffs. </idiot ranter>

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On 29/06/2023 18:24, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:41:01 +0100
> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> My last-but-one employer aTmpca pioneered using shredded tyres as a
>> component in road construction.
>
> Is that the stuff that doesn't pothole ?
>
Dunno, but if the road is rubber, will we be able to have tarmac tyres?