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 by: Spike - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 18:40 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 6:22:54 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Whatever happened?
>>
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fnaw-h5XEBMO2iw?format=jpg&name=medium
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> Win - win.
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> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnaybEwXECIXhub?format=jpg&name=medium

182g/km for a passenger car? You’re joking.

What is an ‘electric bus’?

Why are no figures mentioned for the bicycle?

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Spike

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 18:48 UTC

Really, 52/48 is a bigger democratic mandate than the 1975 European Communities membership referendum in which the people voted to join the EEC 67/32? You know, the democratic vote that you and your fellow leavers spent 40 years trying to overturn?

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 by: Spike - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:33 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> Really, 52/48 is a bigger democratic mandate than the 1975 European
> Communities membership referendum in which the people voted to join the
> EEC 67/32? You know, the democratic vote that you and your fellow leavers
> spent 40 years trying to overturn?

We never voted to join the EEC.

HTH.

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 by: JNugent - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:41 UTC

On 26/01/2023 06:48 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Really, 52/48 is a bigger democratic mandate than the 1975 European Communities membership referendum in which the people voted to join the EEC 67/32? You know, the democratic vote that you and your fellow leavers spent 40 years trying to overturn?

There was *no* vote on joining the Common market (which is all it was in
those days).

Got that?

There was *no* vote on it.

The UK was taken into the Common Market by Parliament without even a
hint of public consultation.

And the relevant Act of Parliament was passed in 1971, with an accession
date in 1973.

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 by: JNugent - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:42 UTC

On 26/01/2023 06:22 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Whatever happened?
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fnaw-h5XEBMO2iw?format=jpg&name=medium

What? Other than COVID and annual mileage falling off a cliff, you mean?

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 by: JNugent - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 19:44 UTC

On 26/01/2023 06:40 pm, Spike wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 6:22:54 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Whatever happened?
>>>
>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fnaw-h5XEBMO2iw?format=jpg&name=medium
>>
>> Win - win.
>>
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnaybEwXECIXhub?format=jpg&name=medium
>
> 182g/km for a passenger car? You’re joking.
>
> What is an ‘electric bus’?
>
> Why are no figures mentioned for the bicycle?

Because it won't take you anywhere that you need to go.

You know... like London to Leeds, or Exeter to Preston.

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On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:25:59 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 707 posts | 7 hours ago
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> The Confederation of British Industry said exactly the same recently. Millions of sensible and knowledgeable people said this would happen. Brexit has increased red tape and shrunk growth. Exactly as was predicted - except by the swivel eyed brigade.

Brexit always brings to mind the (supposed) Churchill remark,

"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter!"

SPOT ON.

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 by: Peter Granger - Fri, 27 Jan 2023 07:39 UTC

On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 05:47:33 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:25:59 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 707 posts | 7 hours ago
> > 7 likes
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> > The Confederation of British Industry said exactly the same recently. Millions of sensible and knowledgeable people said this would happen. Brexit has increased red tape and shrunk growth. Exactly as was predicted - except by the swivel eyed brigade.
>
> Brexit always brings to mind the (supposed) Churchill remark,
>
> "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter!"
>
> SPOT ON.

And yet you keep posting skewed polls “showing” that voters want us to go back in.

Now that you have cloned your views from The Grauniad, you “think” that democracy is great when the people agree with you, and “broken” when they don’t.

I’m not necessarily against the idea of people having to show they’re at least somewhat informed and non-parasitic before being allowed to vote, but you shouldn’t assume for a minute that you would be allowed to vote under such a system - or that results under such a system would be more what you (or rather The Grauniad) wanted.

Careful what you wish for, thicko. (Applied for any fruit-picking jobs yet? Is it OK if we apply for some on your behalf to get the ball rolling?)

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 27 Jan 2023 11:20 UTC

I think the essential problem was that "We won't change anything, and nothing will change" is a rubbish concept to market, whereas "Everything will change, there will be sunshine and unicorns and a magic money tree" is easier to market (even if it's all at best exaggeration and at worst, utter lies).

I'm not sure the Leave campaign found their magic money tree lies that easy to market. Much baser emotions were available to exploit which is why they went balls-deep on immigration lies for the later part of the campaign.

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 by: Spike - Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:17 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think the essential problem was that "We won't change anything, and
> nothing will change" is a rubbish concept to market, whereas "Everything
> will change, there will be sunshine and unicorns and a magic money tree"
> is easier to market (even if it's all at best exaggeration and at worst, utter lies).

> I'm not sure the Leave campaign found their magic money tree lies that
> easy to market. Much baser emotions were available to exploit which is
> why they went balls-deep on immigration lies for the later part of the campaign.

Keep clinging to your child’s comforter.

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 by: Simon Mason - Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:42 UTC

On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 11:20:43 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> I think the essential problem was that "We won't change anything, and nothing will change" is a rubbish concept to market, whereas "Everything will change, there will be sunshine and unicorns and a magic money tree" is easier to market (even if it's all at best exaggeration and at worst, utter lies).
>
> I'm not sure the Leave campaign found their magic money tree lies that easy to market. Much baser emotions were available to exploit which is why they went balls-deep on immigration lies for the later part of the campaign.

Lies all round by the Brextard morons.

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 by: Peter Granger - Fri, 27 Jan 2023 17:21 UTC

On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 16:42:41 UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 11:20:43 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I think the essential problem was that "We won't change anything, and nothing will change" is a rubbish concept to market, whereas "Everything will change, there will be sunshine and unicorns and a magic money tree" is easier to market (even if it's all at best exaggeration and at worst, utter lies).
> >
> > I'm not sure the Leave campaign found their magic money tree lies that easy to market. Much baser emotions were available to exploit which is why they went balls-deep on immigration lies for the later part of the campaign..
> Lies all round by the Brextard morons.

Yet you carefully chose a very white British area when you last moved.

Do you still think you’re more intelligent than JRM? Can you name one person who agrees with you?

Do you ever make accusations which aren’t projection, thicko?

Anyway, get off your arse, you work-shy parasite. Here is just one of the fabulous doors open to you:

https://uk.indeed.com/m/jobs?q=fryer&l=Lincolnshire&radius=25&from=searchOnSerp&sameL=1

PS - The video’s going well. There’s no way you’ll manage to get it taken down either, if that’s what you’re hoping. You can’t claim that you weren’t given the chance to stop it. But then you’re as self-defeatingly stubborn as you are stupid.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Fri, 27 Jan 2023 17:56 UTC

On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 4:42:41 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 11:20:43 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I think the essential problem was that "We won't change anything, and nothing will change" is a rubbish concept to market, whereas "Everything will change, there will be sunshine and unicorns and a magic money tree" is easier to market (even if it's all at best exaggeration and at worst, utter lies).
> >
> > I'm not sure the Leave campaign found their magic money tree lies that easy to market. Much baser emotions were available to exploit which is why they went balls-deep on immigration lies for the later part of the campaign..
> Lies all round by the Brextard morons.

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