https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)

I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco just
short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having delayed road
traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are bound to find out...

NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>
> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco just
> short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having delayed road
> traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are bound to find out...
>

Maybe he has the right 'connections', and so doesn't care?

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 17:55:01 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>
>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco just
>> short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having delayed road
>> traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are bound to find out...
>>
>
>Maybe he has the right 'connections', and so doesn't care?
>
I'm puzzled why an electric loco would be chugging[sic].

On Sat, 05 Feb 2022 19:03:42 +0000, Mark Goodge
<usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Feb 2022 18:56:27 +0000, Charles Ellson
><charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 17:55:01 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>><recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>>>
>>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco just
>>>> short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having delayed road
>>>> traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are bound to find out...
>>>>
>>>
>>>Maybe he has the right 'connections', and so doesn't care?
>>>
>>I'm puzzled why an electric loco would be chugging[sic].
>
>At least it's not chuffing or puffing.
>
Or being "steered" by the conductor[sic].
Looking at the short time taken to move off after the shopper gets on
board, I don't think he was the driver either.

"Charles Ellson" <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:36ktvg94ej8sphg40f9jse3j98jl3diq4t@4ax.com...
> Looking at the short time taken to move off after the shopper gets on
> board, I don't think he was the driver either.

Yes I thought he started going quickly after getting on board. But how long
would it take with a diesel or electric loco to go from brakes-on,
power-level in "idle" setting to moving away. Since the line appears to be
level, he may even have left it with the brakes off so there was no
brake-releasing delay when he got back and so he could get away more
quickly.

On 05/02/2022 21:21, NY wrote:
> "Charles Ellson" <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:36ktvg94ej8sphg40f9jse3j98jl3diq4t@4ax.com...
>> Looking at the short time taken to move off after the shopper gets on
>> board, I don't think he was the driver either.
>
> Yes I thought he started going quickly after getting on board. But how
> long would it take with a diesel or electric loco to go from brakes-on,
> power-level in "idle" setting to moving away. Since the line appears to
> be level, he may even have left it with the brakes off so there was no
> brake-releasing delay when he got back and so he could get away more
> quickly.

Was actually wondering that myself.

On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>
> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
> bound to find out...

Metra trains do that as some stations are right next to grade crossings.

I think that I've seen that on LIRR.

On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco just
> short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having delayed road
> traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are bound to find out...

A local driver told us being stuck at a stop signal for ages (years ago)
and being unable to get an answer from the signal box on the trackside
phone.

I think they reversed the train back to get their car and went to the
signal box, they met the man from the signal box on the way. He had
gone to the bakery to get some rolls straight out of the oven.

On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>
> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
> bound to find out...

What makes you think he's broken any rules in Roumania?

--
Graeme Wall
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On 05/02/2022 18:56, Charles Ellson wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 17:55:01 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>>
>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco just
>>> short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having delayed road
>>> traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are bound to find out...
>>>
>>
>> Maybe he has the right 'connections', and so doesn't care?
>>
> I'm puzzled why an electric loco would be chugging[sic].

And do DB locos regularly work through to Romania?

--
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Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 05/02/2022 18:56, Charles Ellson wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 17:55:01 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>>>
>>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco just
>>>> short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having delayed road
>>>> traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are bound to find out...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe he has the right 'connections', and so doesn't care?
>>>
>> I'm puzzled why an electric loco would be chugging[sic].
>
> And do DB locos regularly work through to Romania?
>

They no more need to than to the UK. They're based there:

<https://ro.dbcargo.com/rail-ro-en/db-cargo-romania-fleet/locomotives>

I think this is a class 92, transferred from DBC UK. As it's a
British-built loco, the driver sits on the left, and the young assistant
was fetching the coffee for him.

NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>
> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco just
> short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having delayed road
> traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are bound to find out...
>
>

Ex-BR class 92, still with its Channel Tunnel rings on the side!

Anna Noyd-Dryver

On 05/02/2022 21:55, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>
>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many
>> disciplinary offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped
>> with the loco just short of the crossing, he may have got away with
>> it, but having delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his
>> managers are bound to find out...
>
> Metra trains do that as some stations are right next to grade crossings.
>
> I think that I've seen that on LIRR.

That would also happen at Valhalla, on Metro-North's Harlem Line, before
electrification (Further taking away from it, IMHO). The platform at
that time was rather short, requiring the locomotive to occupy the
immediately-adjacent level crossing.

Service at that station was rather limited, so it did not happen so
often in the day. Probably better for passengers as well as the station
was on a 5-degree curve, making boarding a task unto itself.

NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> "Charles Ellson" <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:36ktvg94ej8sphg40f9jse3j98jl3diq4t@4ax.com...
>> Looking at the short time taken to move off after the shopper gets on
>> board, I don't think he was the driver either.
>
> Yes I thought he started going quickly after getting on board. But how long
> would it take with a diesel or electric loco to go from brakes-on,
> power-level in "idle" setting to moving away. Since the line appears to be
> level, he may even have left it with the brakes off so there was no
> brake-releasing delay when he got back and so he could get away more
> quickly.
>
>

It's an ex-UK loco, and AFAIK they haven't had a substantial in-cab
rebuild; so the person in the cab who was handed the stuff through the
window, is sitting in the driver's seat.

Anna Noyd-Dryver

hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>
>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
>> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
>> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
>> bound to find out...
>
> Metra trains do that as some stations are right next to grade crossings.
>
> I think that I've seen that on LIRR.
>

Thatcham on a down HST was always fun; stopped with the cab basically right
in the middle of the road. Sitting making tea whilst getting evils from the
motorists backed up as far as the eye can see in both directions!

IETs stop part way back down the platform; so the same road delays but
without the spectator sport.

Anna Noyd-Dryver

Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 05/02/2022 18:56, Charles Ellson wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 17:55:01 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>>>
>>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco just
>>>> short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having delayed road
>>>> traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are bound to find out...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe he has the right 'connections', and so doesn't care?
>>>
>> I'm puzzled why an electric loco would be chugging[sic].
>
> And do DB locos regularly work through to Romania?
>

Yes.

<https://ro.dbcargo.com/rail-ro-en/company/db-cargo-romania>

<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_92>

Anna Noyd-Dryver

In message <stn8t1$np2$1@gioia.aioe.org>, at 01:39:45 on Sun, 6 Feb
2022, "hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk" <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> remarked:
>On 05/02/2022 21:55, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>>
>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many
>>>disciplinary offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped
>>>with the loco just short of the crossing, he may have got away with
>>>it, but having delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his
>>>managers are bound to find out...

>> Metra trains do that as some stations are right next to grade
>>crossings.

>> I think that I've seen that on LIRR.
>
>That would also happen at Valhalla, on Metro-North's Harlem Line,
>before electrification (Further taking away from it, IMHO). The
>platform at that time was rather short, requiring the locomotive to
>occupy the immediately-adjacent level crossing.
>
>Service at that station was rather limited, so it did not happen so
>often in the day. Probably better for passengers as well as the station
>was on a 5-degree curve, making boarding a task unto itself.

It doesn't matter any more, because the crossing is closed, but there
used to be a fairly regular late afternoon aggregates train which
reversed in the reception siding at Ely.

Some form of manual or automatic approach control required the train to
come to a halt, blocking both the down platform and the level crossing,
as it arrived from the north. Before then slowly entering the siding at
the London end of the down platform.
--
Roland Perry

In message <stncot$659$2@dont-email.me>, at 02:45:49 on Sun, 6 Feb 2022,
Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> remarked:
>hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>>
>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
>>> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
>>> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
>>> bound to find out...
>>
>> Metra trains do that as some stations are right next to grade crossings.
>>
>> I think that I've seen that on LIRR.
>>
>
>Thatcham on a down HST was always fun; stopped with the cab basically right
>in the middle of the road. Sitting making tea whilst getting evils from the
>motorists backed up as far as the eye can see in both directions!
>
>IETs stop part way back down the platform; so the same road delays but
>without the spectator sport.

All the London-Reading trains used to (maybe still do) block the level
crossing at Wokingham. Passengers needing to walk through the train to
get off.
--
Roland Perry

Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
> hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>>
>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
>>> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
>>> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
>>> bound to find out...
>>
>> Metra trains do that as some stations are right next to grade crossings.
>>
>> I think that I've seen that on LIRR.
>>
>
> Thatcham on a down HST was always fun; stopped with the cab basically right
> in the middle of the road. Sitting making tea whilst getting evils from the
> motorists backed up as far as the eye can see in both directions!
>
> IETs stop part way back down the platform; so the same road delays but
> without the spectator sport.

I think I’ve mentioned before being stopped on the approach to Doncaster
from the north and spending several minutes having to not look at the HGV
driver waiting eye-to-eye just over the barrier. Ings Rd, I think it must
have been, the entrance to an industrial estate. There’s an alternative
route but it has even lower clearances than Roland’s favourite underpass.
I couldn’t even walk under it without ducking.
<https://goo.gl/maps/fGdomA8KrXMUxJCC6>

Sam

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In message <sto4r3$itj$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:36:35 on Sun, 6 Feb 2022,
Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
>> hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
>>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>>>
>>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
>>>> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
>>>> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
>>>> bound to find out...
>>>
>>> Metra trains do that as some stations are right next to grade crossings.
>>>
>>> I think that I've seen that on LIRR.
>>>
>>
>> Thatcham on a down HST was always fun; stopped with the cab basically right
>> in the middle of the road. Sitting making tea whilst getting evils from the
>> motorists backed up as far as the eye can see in both directions!
>>
>> IETs stop part way back down the platform; so the same road delays but
>> without the spectator sport.
>
>I think I’ve mentioned before being stopped on the approach to Doncaster
>from the north and spending several minutes having to not look at the HGV
>driver waiting eye-to-eye just over the barrier. Ings Rd, I think it must
>have been, the entrance to an industrial estate.

>There’s an alternative route but it has even lower clearances than
>Roland’s favourite underpass. I couldn’t even walk under it without
>ducking. <https://goo.gl/maps/fGdomA8KrXMUxJCC6>

I'm guessing that road is private, (beyond the tarmac section to the end
of the houses). And like the other end:
<https://goo.gl/maps/B14h8nimQtwqCGRu8> those toy sacrificial beams
aren't going to stop an HGV.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <sto4r3$itj$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:36:35 on Sun, 6 Feb 2022,
> Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>> Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
>>> hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
>>>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>>>>
>>>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
>>>>> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
>>>>> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
>>>>> bound to find out...
>>>>
>>>> Metra trains do that as some stations are right next to grade crossings.
>>>>
>>>> I think that I've seen that on LIRR.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thatcham on a down HST was always fun; stopped with the cab basically right
>>> in the middle of the road. Sitting making tea whilst getting evils from the
>>> motorists backed up as far as the eye can see in both directions!
>>>
>>> IETs stop part way back down the platform; so the same road delays but
>>> without the spectator sport.
>>
>> I think I’ve mentioned before being stopped on the approach to Doncaster
>> from the north and spending several minutes having to not look at the HGV
>> driver waiting eye-to-eye just over the barrier. Ings Rd, I think it must
>> have been, the entrance to an industrial estate.
>
>> There’s an alternative route but it has even lower clearances than
>> Roland’s favourite underpass. I couldn’t even walk under it without
>> ducking. <https://goo.gl/maps/fGdomA8KrXMUxJCC6>
>
> I'm guessing that road is private, (beyond the tarmac section to the end
> of the houses). And like the other end:
> <https://goo.gl/maps/B14h8nimQtwqCGRu8> those toy sacrificial beams
> aren't going to stop an HGV.

Even if they can’t stop an HGV I’m pretty sure the driver would notice!

Sam

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In message <str5kq$8fa$1@dont-email.me>, at 13:08:42 on Mon, 7 Feb 2022,
Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <sto4r3$itj$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:36:35 on Sun, 6 Feb 2022,
>> Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>> Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
>>>> hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk <hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
>>>>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>>>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
>>>>>> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
>>>>>> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
>>>>>> bound to find out...
>>>>>
>>>>> Metra trains do that as some stations are right next to grade crossings.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that I've seen that on LIRR.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thatcham on a down HST was always fun; stopped with the cab basically right
>>>> in the middle of the road. Sitting making tea whilst getting evils from the
>>>> motorists backed up as far as the eye can see in both directions!
>>>>
>>>> IETs stop part way back down the platform; so the same road delays but
>>>> without the spectator sport.
>>>
>>> I think I’ve mentioned before being stopped on the approach to Doncaster
>>> from the north and spending several minutes having to not look at the HGV
>>> driver waiting eye-to-eye just over the barrier. Ings Rd, I think it must
>>> have been, the entrance to an industrial estate.
>>
>>> There’s an alternative route but it has even lower clearances than
>>> Roland’s favourite underpass. I couldn’t even walk under it without
>>> ducking. <https://goo.gl/maps/fGdomA8KrXMUxJCC6>
>>
>> I'm guessing that road is private, (beyond the tarmac section to the end
>> of the houses). And like the other end:
>> <https://goo.gl/maps/B14h8nimQtwqCGRu8> those toy sacrificial beams
>> aren't going to stop an HGV.
>
>Even if they can’t stop an HGV I’m pretty sure the driver would notice!

And then you need to send someone out to repair the beam. That's why
studies of this kind of installation conclude it's not worth the candle.
--
Roland Perry

On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>
> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
> bound to find out...
-------------

Seems reasonable to me :)

Peter (Stroud, Glos)

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On 11/02/2022 23:31, Clank wrote:
> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> Wrote in message:r
>> On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
>>> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
>>> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
>>> bound to find out...
>> What makes you think he's broken any rules in Roumania?
>
> There is no U in Romania.

Not any more, no :-)

>
> The video was taken in March 2020 - if the driver had waited 3
> days it'd have been the first Covid lockdown and nobody would
> have cared about him blocking the road (although he may have had
> trouble buying a coffee...)
>
> Don't know about "rules", but the police opened an investigation
> into breaches of Article 339 of the penal code (preventing or
> hindering traffic on a public road) as well as general
> road-safety offences. Can't say what the result of the
> investigation was though.
>

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Clank <clank75@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> Wrote in message:r
>> On 05/02/2022 17:47, NY wrote:
>>> https://fb.watch/a_s8wlZqEj/ (link to a Daily Mail video on Facebook)
>>> I've no idea when this video dates from. I wonder how many disciplinary
>>> offences the train driver has committed. If he'd stopped with the loco
>>> just short of the crossing, he may have got away with it, but having
>>> delayed road traffic and been videoed as a result, his managers are
>>> bound to find out...
>> What makes you think he's broken any rules in Roumania?
>
> There is no U in Romania.
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania

In English, the name of the country was formerly spelt Rumania or
Roumania.[24] Romania became the predominant spelling around 1975.[25]
Romania is also the official English-language spelling used by the Romanian
government.[26] A handful of other languages (including Italian, Hungarian,
Portuguese, and Norwegian) have also switched to "o" like English, but most
languages continue to prefer forms with u, e.g. French Roumanie, German and
Swedish Rumänien, Spanish Rumania (the archaic form Rumanía is still in use
in Spain), Polish Rumunia, Russian Румыния (Rumyniya), and Japanese ルーマニア
(Rūmania).