Xeno wrote:
> On 9/2/2023 11:18 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/2/2023 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 7/02/2023 8:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand
>>> new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
>>
>> hard to believe
>
> It can happen but you won't see the Roller on the back of a tow truck.
> They'll send a *van* out to pick it up so the Roller isn't visible.

since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at least) to
imagine what could go wrong to cause it

>>
>>> Mercedes have had their share of failures but overall they are very
>>> reliable well made cars.
>>>

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Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 9/02/2023 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 8/02/2023 10:18 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a
>>>> brand new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
>>>> Mercedes have had their share of failures but overall they are very
>>>> reliable well made cars.
>>>
>>> **Mercedes WERE amongst the best made cars on the planet. I've
>>> driven old Mercs and they were WAY ahead of everyday cars back then
>>> (1960s ~ 1980s). That is simply no longer the case. Mercs are no
>>> longer significantly superior to Toyotas, Hyundais, or many others.
>>> And that fact is reflected in their relative prices, compared to
>>> other vehicles.
>>
>> to what do you attribute that?
>
> **For a company to continue growing, it must broaden it's market
> appeal. That, inevitably, means driving prices down/releasing cheaper
> models. I've seen it in my industry (domestic hi fi equipment) for the
> past 50 years. With few exceptions (Ferrari, Lambo, Rolls Royce)
> almost all car companies have done it.
>
>

so Merc have deliberately lowered their standards/quality to be price
competitive. are you sure?

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On 9/02/2023 2:37 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 9/02/2023 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 8/02/2023 10:18 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a
>>>>> brand new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
>>>>> Mercedes have had their share of failures but overall they are very
>>>>> reliable well made cars.
>>>>
>>>> **Mercedes WERE amongst the best made cars on the planet. I've
>>>> driven old Mercs and they were WAY ahead of everyday cars back then
>>>> (1960s ~ 1980s). That is simply no longer the case. Mercs are no
>>>> longer significantly superior to Toyotas, Hyundais, or many others.
>>>> And that fact is reflected in their relative prices, compared to
>>>> other vehicles.
>>>
>>> to what do you attribute that?
>>
>> **For a company to continue growing, it must broaden it's market
>> appeal. That, inevitably, means driving prices down/releasing cheaper
>> models. I've seen it in my industry (domestic hi fi equipment) for the
>> past 50 years. With few exceptions (Ferrari, Lambo, Rolls Royce)
>> almost all car companies have done it.
>>
>>
>
> so Merc have deliberately lowered their standards/quality to be price
> competitive. are you sure?
>

**Nope. However, I've seen the same process in my business. However, I
would also posit that most other car companies have significantly raised
their standards too.

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On 9/2/2023 2:35 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 9/2/2023 11:18 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/2/2023 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 7/02/2023 8:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand
>>>> new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
>>>
>>> hard to believe
>>
>> It can happen but you won't see the Roller on the back of a tow truck.
>> They'll send a *van* out to pick it up so the Roller isn't visible.
>
> since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at least) to
> imagine what could go wrong to cause it

Such things are rare but they definitely do happen. Nothing is immune!
>
>>>
>>>> Mercedes have had their share of failures but overall they are very
>>>> reliable well made cars.
>>>>
>
>
>

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On 8/02/2023 7:18 pm, Daryl wrote:

> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand new
> Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.

Daryl's "jumping the shark" moment.

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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 9/02/2023 4:57 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/02/2023 7:00 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 8/02/2023 10:18 pm, Daryl wrote:
>
>
>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand
>>> new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
>>> Mercedes have had their share of failures but overall they are very
>>> reliable well made cars.
>>
>> **Mercedes WERE amongst the best made cars on the planet.
>
> Yeah, I don't know if I'd go that far. They certainly made a decent car
> and had some cool features, but they had their issues like any other.
> You also have to bear in mind that A Mercedes Benz was built to a
> totally different price point than a Holden or Ford.
>
> Remember how you said you thought that Lexus made the best car around?
> Well, a Lexus is nothing other than a Toyota with lots of bling and an
> inflated price tag.
>   > I've driven old Mercs and they were WAY ahead of everyday cars back
> then (1960s ~
>> 1980s). That is simply no longer the case. Mercs are no longer
>> significantly superior to Toyotas, Hyundais, or many others. And that
>> fact is reflected in their relative prices, compared to other
>> vehicles. Mercs are MUCH less expensive than they were back in the old
>> days. And yes, I readily admit that most manufacturers make the odd
>> lemon.
>
> *All* manufacturers do Trev. There isn't a car maker on the planet that
> makes 100% reliable vehicles 100% of the time, and sadly for new car
> buyers that's a direct result of current manufacturing techniques.
>
> Years ago when a new car was designed and built, it would be put through
> a rigorous physical testing regime to try to break the thing and see
> where it's weaknesses lied so it could be tuned and adjusted as
> necessary before being released to the public.

You're talking out of your arse. Reliability, safety and longevity has
improved exponentially over time, even with cars being far more complex
today.

These days with the cost
> of researching and developing a new model running into the hundreds of
> millions of dollars manufacturers want their money back as quickly as
> possible. To that end most testing done these days is simulated with the
> cars being handed over to the public after a very short physical test
> program to allow the buyers to be beta testers. It saves the company
> shitloads of time and money getting each new model to market, but it
> leaves a bad taste in the mouths of buyers.
>

What a load of pig ignorant bullshit that is.

Stay away from cars you idiot.

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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 9/02/2023 11:35 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 9/2/2023 11:18 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/2/2023 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 7/02/2023 8:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand
>>>> new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
>>>
>>> hard to believe
>>
>> It can happen but you won't see the Roller on the back of a tow truck.
>> They'll send a *van* out to pick it up so the Roller isn't visible.
>
> since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at least) to
> imagine what could go wrong to cause it
>

It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
I've heard this story told so many times about Rollers breaking down
yada yada that they must be the most unreliable vehicle on the road...

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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 16:17:38 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> On 8/02/2023 7:18 pm, Daryl wrote:
>
> > Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand new
> > Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
> Daryl's "jumping the shark" moment.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Heres the bogan showing off his life choices!.
> --
> In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
> Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
> proven liar."
>
> On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
> "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 16:33:20 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> On 9/02/2023 4:57 am, Noddy wrote:
> > On 9/02/2023 7:00 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >> On 8/02/2023 10:18 pm, Daryl wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand
> >>> new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
> >>> Mercedes have had their share of failures but overall they are very
> >>> reliable well made cars.
> >>
> >> **Mercedes WERE amongst the best made cars on the planet.
> >
> > Yeah, I don't know if I'd go that far. They certainly made a decent car
> > and had some cool features, but they had their issues like any other.
> > You also have to bear in mind that A Mercedes Benz was built to a
> > totally different price point than a Holden or Ford.
> >
> > Remember how you said you thought that Lexus made the best car around?
> > Well, a Lexus is nothing other than a Toyota with lots of bling and an
> > inflated price tag.
> > > I've driven old Mercs and they were WAY ahead of everyday cars back
> > then (1960s ~
> >> 1980s). That is simply no longer the case. Mercs are no longer
> >> significantly superior to Toyotas, Hyundais, or many others. And that
> >> fact is reflected in their relative prices, compared to other
> >> vehicles. Mercs are MUCH less expensive than they were back in the old
> >> days. And yes, I readily admit that most manufacturers make the odd
> >> lemon.
> >
> > *All* manufacturers do Trev. There isn't a car maker on the planet that
> > makes 100% reliable vehicles 100% of the time, and sadly for new car
> > buyers that's a direct result of current manufacturing techniques.
> >
> > Years ago when a new car was designed and built, it would be put through
> > a rigorous physical testing regime to try to break the thing and see
> > where it's weaknesses lied so it could be tuned and adjusted as
> > necessary before being released to the public.
> You're talking out of your arse. Reliability, safety and longevity has
> improved exponentially over time, even with cars being far more complex
> today.
> These days with the cost
> > of researching and developing a new model running into the hundreds of
> > millions of dollars manufacturers want their money back as quickly as
> > possible. To that end most testing done these days is simulated with the
> > cars being handed over to the public after a very short physical test
> > program to allow the buyers to be beta testers. It saves the company
> > shitloads of time and money getting each new model to market, but it
> > leaves a bad taste in the mouths of buyers.
> >
> What a load of pig ignorant bullshit that is.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Is it?, why then, are vehicles being written off after even a *minor* bingle?. (Quite often as an *unrepairable* (Stat. write off)
See it here all the time. The assessor comes in (NRMA holding yard) and over 50% become a write off ..

>
> Stay away from cars you idiot.
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> In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
> Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
> proven liar."
>
> On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
> "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 19:02:05 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> On 9/02/2023 11:35 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> > Xeno wrote:
> >> On 9/2/2023 11:18 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 8/2/2023 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >>>>> On 7/02/2023 8:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
> >>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand
> >>>> new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
> >>>
> >>> hard to believe
> >>
> >> It can happen but you won't see the Roller on the back of a tow truck.
> >> They'll send a *van* out to pick it up so the Roller isn't visible.
> >
> > since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at least) to
> > imagine what could go wrong to cause it
> >
> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You *know* this? how?.....Yer full of shit, windscreens O'tikky....
> I've heard this story told so many times about Rollers breaking down
> yada yada that they must be the most unreliable vehicle on the road...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Yep, *YADA, YADA*..... You to a T...You gum flapping nonce!.

> --
> In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
> Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
> proven liar."
>
> On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
> "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 9/2/2023 8:58 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 19:02:05 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>> On 9/02/2023 11:35 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 9/2/2023 11:18 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/2/2023 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/02/2023 8:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand
>>>>>> new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
>>>>>
>>>>> hard to believe
>>>>
>>>> It can happen but you won't see the Roller on the back of a tow truck.
>>>> They'll send a *van* out to pick it up so the Roller isn't visible.
>>>
>>> since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at least) to
>>> imagine what could go wrong to cause it
>>>
>> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> You *know* this? how?.....Yer full of shit, windscreens O'tikky....

Yep, he's 100% full of shit, only he knows why he makes such stupid
comments, how the fuck would he know what I did or didn't see.
It was when I was working as a courier around the late 80's, I was just
entering the Tullamarine freeway at the Flemington end, RR was beside me
at the lights and when the lights went green he nailed it, took off very
quickly and when he was about half a km in front of me his engine let go
in a cloud of smoke and oil and he pulled into the emergency lane.
An hour or so later I was heading back into the city and the RR was on a
flat top and the truck driver was covering it up with a tarp.
Very likely a rare event but it most certainly happened, its not often
you see something like that which is why I remember seeing it.

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Clocky wrote:
> On 9/02/2023 11:35 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> Xeno wrote:
>>> On 9/2/2023 11:18 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/2/2023 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/02/2023 8:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a
>>>>> brand new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
>>>>
>>>> hard to believe
>>>
>>> It can happen but you won't see the Roller on the back of a tow
>>> truck. They'll send a *van* out to pick it up so the Roller isn't
>>> visible.
>>
>> since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at least)
>> to imagine what could go wrong to cause it
>>
>
> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.

yes, I can't imagine he would have

> I've heard this story told so many times about Rollers breaking down
> yada yada that they must be the most unreliable vehicle on the road...
>

my dad used to tell people when they asked what car we had that we had a
Rolls Canardly. they would be impressed, but say they had never heard of
that model, and ask how does it go. he would then say..  "it rolls down
one hill, can'ardly get up the next one."  :)

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On 9/02/2023 8:59 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> Clocky wrote:
>> On 9/02/2023 11:35 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 9/2/2023 11:18 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/2/2023 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/02/2023 8:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a
>>>>>> brand new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
>>>>>
>>>>> hard to believe
>>>>
>>>> It can happen but you won't see the Roller on the back of a tow
>>>> truck. They'll send a *van* out to pick it up so the Roller isn't
>>>> visible.
>>>
>>> since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at least)
>>> to imagine what could go wrong to cause it
>>>
>>
>> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
>
> yes, I can't imagine he would have
>
>> I've heard this story told so many times about Rollers breaking down
>> yada yada that they must be the most unreliable vehicle on the road...
>>
>
> my dad used to tell people when they asked what car we had that we had a
> Rolls Canardly. they would be impressed, but say they had never heard of
> that model, and ask how does it go. he would then say..  "it rolls down
> one hill, can'ardly get up the next one."  :)
>

Haha, that sounds like something my FIL might have said :-)

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In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 9/02/2023 6:45 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 9/2/2023 8:58 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 19:02:05 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 9/02/2023 11:35 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 9/2/2023 11:18 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/2/2023 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/02/2023 8:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand
>>>>>>> new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hard to believe
>>>>>
>>>>> It can happen but you won't see the Roller on the back of a tow truck.
>>>>> They'll send a *van* out to pick it up so the Roller isn't visible.
>>>>
>>>> since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at
>>>> least) to
>>>> imagine what could go wrong to cause it
>>>>
>>> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>   You *know* this? how?.....Yer full of shit, windscreens O'tikky....
>
> Yep, he's 100% full of shit, only he knows why he makes such stupid
> comments,

Like fishing with grenades you pair of dumbarses.

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Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
proven liar."

On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 9/02/2023 9:26 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 9/2/2023 7:00 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:

>> **When a new car breaks down and leaves the owner stranded at the side
>> of the road, SEVERAL times, along with 20+ other faults, the car is
>> clearly a lemon.
>
> LOL, never understood the term "lemon" and in the almost 50yrs of being
> a qualified mechanic I've never seen a car that I would describe as a
> lemon, a few were problematic, worst I remember working on continuously
> was a Holden Camira wagon, car was always giving the owner problems but
> the owner was such a dickhead that that would have been the case with
> every car he owned, he just fucked every car he touched.
> Another "problem" car was a small Toyota (can't remember the model but
> it was 2 door based on a Corolla", the female neighbor driver thrashed
> the shit out of it, started it cold and was valve bouncing the engine in
> first gear as she drove past my past 100mtrs down the street, what I'm
> saying is that in my experience the problems starts with the way that
> the cars are treated.
> Of course that's not always the case and there are some cars that are
> duds but in my experience they are extremely rare.

There's been a few notable lemons over the years.

The JB Camira was an out and out heap of shit in every respect. The EA
Falcon was an incredibly problematic car and the subsequent EB wasn't
much better. Generally anything made in Italy is a fucking disaster, and
especially if it has an "Alfa" badge on it :)

Some other examples of 4 wheeled faults would be the Holden Captiva
which were plagued with mechanical and electrical problems, the early
Kia Carnivals with their Rover sourced V6 engine that was so
horrendously trouble prone that you would generally struggle to find one
of these things that still has it's original engine today. VL Commodores
with their propensity to crack cylinder heads and eat crank angle
sensors for breakfast. BA/BF/FG Falcons with their piss poor radiator
mounted trans cooler which usually fails and fills the transmission with
coolant, VE Commodores for their general "all round" appalling build
quality that allows the car fall apart around you combined with an
unreliable and agricultural V6 engine.

There would be others of course, but all of these cars listed here had
problems from the day dot and they are famous today for their "issues".

Especially Alfas. They are probably the only marque on the planet where
every single model they make is a total heap of shit that you wouldn't
own if someone held a gun to your head :)

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On 9/02/2023 8:49 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 16:33:20 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:

>>>
>> What a load of pig ignorant bullshit that is.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Is it?, why then, are vehicles being written off after even a *minor* bingle?. (Quite often as an *unrepairable* (Stat. write off)
> See it here all the time. The assessor comes in (NRMA holding yard) and over 50% become a write off ..

You can only laugh at the snorkel fitter. His only connection with "new
cars" is fitting mudflaps and side steps on mine vehicles, but he
reckons he knows everything there is to the entire automotive world.
Like extracting fuel trim data that's over 2 weeks old at ramdom from a
car with no fault codes present.

You'd have to wonder how he actually manages to do that given that none
of it is recorded :)

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Noddy.

On 9/02/2023 8:58 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 19:02:05 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:

>>> since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at least) to
>>> imagine what could go wrong to cause it
>>>
>> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> You *know* this? how?.....Yer full of shit, windscreens O'tikky....
>> I've heard this story told so many times about Rollers breaking down
>> yada yada that they must be the most unreliable vehicle on the road...
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

Ever noticed how he *only* exists in this group these days to fling shit
and start arguments? Kind of strange behaviour for a bloke who likes to
beat his chest about being a moral truth teller.

If you had to make an assessment of the bloke based on his performance,
you'd classify him as a whiney little serialpest and nothing more.

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Regards,
Noddy.

On 9/02/2023 9:45 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 9/2/2023 8:58 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:

>>> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>   You *know* this? how?.....Yer full of shit, windscreens O'tikky....
>
> Yep, he's 100% full of shit, only he knows why he makes such stupid
> comments, how the fuck would he know what I did or didn't see.

He's a fucking idiot. It wouldn't have mattered if you took a photo and
posted it here, the moron would *still* deny it and insist that his
fantasy was correct and your reality was wrong.

He's a *massive* Karen :)

> It was when I was working as a courier around the late 80's, I was just
> entering the Tullamarine freeway at the Flemington end, RR was beside me
> at the lights and when the lights went green he nailed it, took off very
> quickly and when he was about half a km in front of me his engine let go
> in a cloud of smoke and oil and he pulled into the emergency lane.
> An hour or so later I was heading back into the city and the RR was on a
> flat top and the truck driver was covering it up with a tarp.
> Very likely a rare event but it most certainly happened, its not often
> you see something like that which is why I remember seeing it.

I remember seeing one broken down on Beaconsfield Parade once years ago.
It was in the right turn lane to turn into Kerferd Road and it was
blocking the lane with it's hazards on pissing what looked to be coolant
all over the road. I remember being stopped at that intersection waiting
on the lights when a tradie walking across the road walked up to the
thing and pretended to crank it by hand at the front bumper.

Made everyone around it laugh their heads off :)

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Noddy.

On 10/2/2023 12:17 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/02/2023 9:26 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 9/2/2023 7:00 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>>> **When a new car breaks down and leaves the owner stranded at the
>>> side of the road, SEVERAL times, along with 20+ other faults, the car
>>> is clearly a lemon.
>>
>> LOL, never understood the term "lemon" and in the almost 50yrs of
>> being a qualified mechanic I've never seen a car that I would describe
>> as a lemon, a few were problematic, worst I remember working on
>> continuously was a Holden Camira wagon, car was always giving the
>> owner problems but the owner was such a dickhead that that would have
>> been the case with every car he owned, he just fucked every car he
>> touched.
>> Another "problem" car was a small Toyota (can't remember the model but
>> it was 2 door based on a Corolla", the female neighbor driver thrashed
>> the shit out of it, started it cold and was valve bouncing the engine
>> in first gear as she drove past my past 100mtrs down the street, what
>> I'm saying is that in my experience the problems starts with the way
>> that the cars are treated.
>> Of course that's not always the case and there are some cars that are
>> duds but in my experience they are extremely rare.
>
> There's been a few notable lemons over the years.
>
> The JB Camira was an out and out heap of shit in every respect.

Pretty much agree, my youngest sister had several Camira's and wouldn't
accept that they were junk but her husband is a mechanic that worked for
Holden so he fixed problems with her cars long before they happened so
she never had any problems so she still believes they were OK cars:-)

--
Daryl

On 10/2/2023 12:36 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/02/2023 9:45 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 9/2/2023 8:58 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>
>>>> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>   You *know* this? how?.....Yer full of shit, windscreens O'tikky....
>>
>> Yep, he's 100% full of shit, only he knows why he makes such stupid
>> comments, how the fuck would he know what I did or didn't see.
>
> He's a fucking idiot. It wouldn't have mattered if you took a photo and
> posted it here, the moron would *still* deny it and insist that his
> fantasy was correct and your reality was wrong.
>
> He's a *massive* Karen :)
>
>> It was when I was working as a courier around the late 80's, I was
>> just entering the Tullamarine freeway at the Flemington end, RR was
>> beside me at the lights and when the lights went green he nailed it,
>> took off very quickly and when he was about half a km in front of me
>> his engine let go in a cloud of smoke and oil and he pulled into the
>> emergency lane.
>> An hour or so later I was heading back into the city and the RR was on
>> a flat top and the truck driver was covering it up with a tarp.
>> Very likely a rare event but it most certainly happened, its not often
>> you see something like that which is why I remember seeing it.
>
> I remember seeing one broken down on Beaconsfield Parade once years ago.
> It was in the right turn lane to turn into Kerferd Road and it was
> blocking the lane with it's hazards on pissing what looked to be coolant
> all over the road. I remember being stopped at that intersection waiting
> on the lights when a tradie walking across the road walked up to the
> thing and pretended to crank it by hand at the front bumper.
>
> Made everyone around it laugh their heads off :)
>
>
>
>
LOL.
Recently meet a couple of younger blokes at a car club event, between 5
of them they bought a late 80's Roller for $20k as a pub pick up car,
one designated driver to pick up the drunks.
They thought that it was a huge joke but after owning it for a while
they all can't wait for their turn to drive it, they all reckon its a
brilliant car to drive with a silky smooth ride and amazing brakes.
--
Daryl

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:ts2s5a$ma0m$3@dont-email.me:

> On 9/02/2023 8:58 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 19:02:05 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>
>>>> since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at
>>>> least) to imagine what could go wrong to cause it
>>>>
>>> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> You *know* this? how?.....Yer full of shit, windscreens O'tikky....
>>> I've heard this story told so many times about Rollers breaking down
>>> yada yada that they must be the most unreliable vehicle on the
>>> road...
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
>
> Ever noticed how he *only* exists in this group these days to fling
> shit and start arguments? Kind of strange behaviour for a bloke who
> likes to beat his chest about being a moral truth teller.
>
> If you had to make an assessment of the bloke based on his
> performance, you'd classify him as a whiney little serialpest and
> nothing more.
>

Said Fraudster. Flinging shit and trying to start an argument from behind
his mighty (snigger) killfail.

Really Fraudster, if you were just a smidge stupider you'd be a pumpkin.

On 10/02/2023 5:28 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 10/2/2023 12:36 am, Noddy wrote:

>> I remember seeing one broken down on Beaconsfield Parade once years
>> ago. It was in the right turn lane to turn into Kerferd Road and it
>> was blocking the lane with it's hazards on pissing what looked to be
>> coolant all over the road. I remember being stopped at that
>> intersection waiting on the lights when a tradie walking across the
>> road walked up to the thing and pretended to crank it by hand at the
>> front bumper.
>>
>> Made everyone around it laugh their heads off :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
> LOL.
> Recently meet a couple of younger blokes at a car club event, between 5
> of them they bought a late 80's Roller for $20k as a pub pick up car,
> one designated driver to pick up the drunks.
> They thought that it was a huge joke but after owning it for a while
> they all can't wait for their turn to drive it, they all reckon its a
> brilliant car to drive with a silky smooth ride and amazing brakes.

I've only ever been in one, and it was quite comfortable but it made me
wonder what all the fuss was about. To me they've always been an old
man's car.
--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 21:45:41 UTC+11, Daryl wrote:
> On 9/2/2023 8:58 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 19:02:05 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> >> On 9/02/2023 11:35 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>> Xeno wrote:
> >>>> On 9/2/2023 11:18 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 8/2/2023 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 7/02/2023 8:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
> >>>>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand
> >>>>>> new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> hard to believe
> >>>>
> >>>> It can happen but you won't see the Roller on the back of a tow truck.
> >>>> They'll send a *van* out to pick it up so the Roller isn't visible.
> >>>
> >>> since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at least) to
> >>> imagine what could go wrong to cause it
> >>>
> >> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > You *know* this? how?.....Yer full of shit, windscreens O'tikky....
> Yep, he's 100% full of shit, only he knows why he makes such stupid
> comments, how the fuck would he know what I did or didn't see.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
He dosn`t of course. However its the nature of the beast. He throws the word *liar* around like confetti and expects ppl to cop it sweet. (*Especially* in situations such as this.) Just another of the *would be if they could be`s* that I mentioned a couple of days ago.

> It was when I was working as a courier around the late 80's, I was just
> entering the Tullamarine freeway at the Flemington end, RR was beside me
> at the lights and when the lights went green he nailed it, took off very
> quickly and when he was about half a km in front of me his engine let go
> in a cloud of smoke and oil and he pulled into the emergency lane.
> An hour or so later I was heading back into the city and the RR was on a
> flat top and the truck driver was covering it up with a tarp.
> Very likely a rare event but it most certainly happened, its not often
> you see something like that which is why I remember seeing it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Yep, certainly an event to remember. :)

>
>
>
> --
> Daryl

On Friday, 10 February 2023 at 00:17:02 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> On 9/02/2023 6:45 pm, Daryl wrote:
> > On 9/2/2023 8:58 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 19:02:05 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> >>> On 9/02/2023 11:35 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>> Xeno wrote:
> >>>>> On 9/2/2023 11:18 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 8/2/2023 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 7/02/2023 8:06 pm, Daryl wrote:
> >>>>>>> Every car maker makes the occasional dud car, I've even seen a brand
> >>>>>>> new Rolls Royce have a massive engine failure.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> hard to believe
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It can happen but you won't see the Roller on the back of a tow truck.
> >>>>> They'll send a *van* out to pick it up so the Roller isn't visible.
> >>>>
> >>>> since their quality control is meticulous it's hard (for me at
> >>>> least) to
> >>>> imagine what could go wrong to cause it
> >>>>
> >>> It can happen... but Daryl would not have seen it.
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> You *know* this? how?.....Yer full of shit, windscreens O'tikky....
> >
> > Yep, he's 100% full of shit, only he knows why he makes such stupid
> > comments,
> Like fishing with grenades you pair of dumbarses.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Nope, it was a *typical* shit response from you, the lord mayor of arseholes......Hoist by your own petard *again*.....Pffttt.

> --
> In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
> Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
> proven liar."
>
> On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
> "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

On 10/2/2023 7:42 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 10/02/2023 5:28 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 10/2/2023 12:36 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> I remember seeing one broken down on Beaconsfield Parade once years
>>> ago. It was in the right turn lane to turn into Kerferd Road and it
>>> was blocking the lane with it's hazards on pissing what looked to be
>>> coolant all over the road. I remember being stopped at that
>>> intersection waiting on the lights when a tradie walking across the
>>> road walked up to the thing and pretended to crank it by hand at the
>>> front bumper.
>>>
>>> Made everyone around it laugh their heads off :)
>>>

>> LOL.
>> Recently meet a couple of younger blokes at a car club event, between
>> 5 of them they bought a late 80's Roller for $20k as a pub pick up
>> car, one designated driver to pick up the drunks.
>> They thought that it was a huge joke but after owning it for a while
>> they all can't wait for their turn to drive it, they all reckon its a
>> brilliant car to drive with a silky smooth ride and amazing brakes.
>
> I've only ever been in one, and it was quite comfortable but it made me
> wonder what all the fuss was about. To me they've always been an old
> man's car.

That impression is *created* by the fact that most Rolls owners, by the
time they were wealthy enough to own one, were also *old*. That said,
many young *wealthy* people also owned Rollers. The *average age* of
Rolls Royce buyers these days is 42 with the youngest being Paras Gupta
at the tender age of 22. The times, they are changing. Paras Gupta even
beats John Lennon who was 24 at the time he ordered his *new* Rolls
Royce in December 64 and Lennon didn't even have a driver's licence
until February 1965. It would be safe to say that it was John Lennon in
1965 who changed the image of a Rolls Royce from that of a wealthy old
man's car to the car of choice for the *young nouveau riche*. Let me
see, you were 2 years old when Lennon first received his drivers licence
and 5 when he painted his black Rolls in psychedelic colours. What rock
have you been hiding under since birth?

The Rolls was always the car to be *chauffeured in* whilst the Bentley
was the *driver's car*. Been a passenger in a 1949 Rolls Royce circa
1974 and worked on a similar vintage Bentley (which was the 49 Roller
look alike) in 1970. Had an F head engine, IIRC. Had to climb into the
*huge* engine bay to lap in the valves in the block.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)