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* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
+* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMB
|`* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsSam Wilson
| +- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMB
| `- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsSam Wilson
`* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
 `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsGraeme Wall
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  +* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
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  | +- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsAnna Noyd-Dryver
  | `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMarland
  |  `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsCharles Ellson
  |   `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMarland
  |    `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsSam Wilson
  |     `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsCharles Ellson
  |      `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsSam Wilson
  |       +- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsCharles Ellson
  |       +- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMB
  |       `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
  |        `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsSam Wilson
  |         +- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMarland
  |         `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
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  |          |  |   `- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
  |          |  `- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsSam Wilson
  |          +* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMarland
  |          |+* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
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  |          |||    `- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsSam Wilson
  |          ||+- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsAnna Noyd-Dryver
  |          ||`* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMarland
  |          || `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
  |          ||  `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsSam Wilson
  |          ||   `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
  |          ||    +* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRecliner
  |          ||    |`- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
  |          ||    `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsSam Wilson
  |          ||     +* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRecliner
  |          ||     |+* Serious disruption on North Clyde Electricsmartin.coffee
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  |          ||     |||`* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMarland
  |          ||     ||| `- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsTweed
  |          ||     ||`- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMB
  |          ||     |`- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
  |          ||     +* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
  |          ||     |`- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsAnna Noyd-Dryver
  |          ||     `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMarland
  |          ||      `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
  |          ||       `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMarland
  |          ||        `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
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  |          ||          `* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
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  |          ||            `- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsRoland Perry
  |          |`- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsTweed
  |          `- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsGraeme Wall
  +* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMB
  |`* Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsGraeme Wall
  | `- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsMB
  `- Serious disruption on North Clyde ElectricsSam Wilson

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From: charlese...@btinternet.com (Charles Ellson)
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Subject: Re: Serious disruption on North Clyde Electrics
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 22:08:45 +0000
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 by: Charles Ellson - Fri, 11 Feb 2022 22:08 UTC

On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 21:47:49 -0000 (UTC), Sam Wilson
<ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:46:02 -0000 (UTC), Sam Wilson
>> <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Charles Ellson <charlesellson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10 Feb 2022 13:57:37 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10 Feb 2022 01:03:25 GMT, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought London Underground hosted a lot of cables.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mainly their own traction power. COLT, on the other hand, used old
>>>>>>>>> hydraulic pipes for communications cables, but soon spread further
>>>>>>>>> afield.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Change the title from London Underground to London Transport, although it
>>>>>>>> may no longer have been called that by the era we are referring to and you
>>>>>>>> bring in quite a few ducts that once carried traction power from their
>>>>>>>> power stations like Lots Road to substations and then to the pavement side
>>>>>>>> section boxes that supplied a section of Tram or Trolleybus overhead ( and
>>>>>>>> I think tram conduit as well).
>>>>>>>> ISTR that a lot of these lay unused till the expansion of communication
>>>>>>>> networks in recent times
>>>>>>>> made them asset that could not be ignored.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 60 years after the Trolleys in London were withdrawn the odd feeder box
>>>>>>>> survives into recent times.
>>>>>>>> This forlorn one was still in place when google went by, it once served a
>>>>>>>> Trolley bus turning point
>>>>>>>> and stood untouched while the area around changed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < https://goo.gl/maps/f2NHgHGDQ5pHYJYf6>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A larger one in better condition is on a street corner in Kennington
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/WsBc8JJCypNVvW8F7 >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some as well as switches for the traction current did have a phone inside
>>>>>>>> a compartment mounted on top which was connected to phone cables that were
>>>>>>>> part of LTs internal network.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forgive my shameful ignorance but I don't know what I am looking for
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something like this .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/infrastructure/item/1995-248>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or this
>>>>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/23875695@N06/8479856876/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the moment google maps, seems to be having one of its issues with
>>>>>> linking the main picture
>>>>>> via NewsTap and only posts the smaller view, so you might have to expand
>>>>>> that and look around a bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most towns that had tramways and Trolleybuses had them as well often with
>>>>>> their own coat of arms and again the odd one is still place. Some as useful
>>>>>> sturdy cabinets got reused so may not be in their original location.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to look around)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately and pasting
>>>> from the main image isn?t working. Its been like that before and then been
>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the situation
>>>> lasts.
>>>
>>> Yes, I?ve been finding the same.
>>>
>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>> majority of devices used.
>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>> formats)
>
>While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It used to be
>possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that doesn’t actually
>work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>from there.
>
E-mailing a link from my tablet seems to work.

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From: MB...@nospam.net (MB)
Newsgroups: uk.railway
Subject: Re: Serious disruption on North Clyde Electrics
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 by: MB - Fri, 11 Feb 2022 22:33 UTC

On 11/02/2022 21:47, Sam Wilson wrote:
> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It used to be
> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that doesn’t actually
> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
> from there.

I was using a Streetview link a few days ago, this one seems to work OK.

https://goo.gl/maps/2MECdo4cvFPbXH566

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From: rol...@perry.co.uk (Roland Perry)
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Subject: Re: Serious disruption on North Clyde Electrics
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 by: Roland Perry - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 06:32 UTC

In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to look around)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately and pasting
>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before and then been
>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the situation
>>>> lasts.
>>>
>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>
>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>> majority of devices used.
>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>> formats)
>
>While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It used to be
>possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that doesn’t actually
>work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>from there.

What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
in ss8)
--
Roland Perry

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 by: Sam Wilson - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:40 UTC

Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to look around)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately and pasting
>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before and then been
>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the situation
>>>>> lasts.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>
>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>> majority of devices used.
>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>> formats)
>>
>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It used to be
>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that doesn’t actually
>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>> from there.
>
> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
> in ss8)

Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share” from the
menu no dialogue appears.

Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>

Sam

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 by: Marland - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:29 UTC

Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to look around)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately and pasting
>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before and then been
>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the situation
>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>
>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>> formats)
>>>
>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It used to be
>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that doesn’t actually
>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>> from there.
>>
>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>> in ss8)
>
> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share” from the
> menu no dialogue appears.
>
> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>
> Sam
>

Thats exactly what I am finding ATM.

5th generation I-Pad , software version 14 -8-1

GH

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From: rol...@perry.co.uk (Roland Perry)
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Subject: Re: Serious disruption on North Clyde Electrics
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 by: Roland Perry - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:46 UTC

In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>look around)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>and pasting
>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>then been
>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the situation
>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>
>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>> formats)
>>>
>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It used to be
>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that doesn’t actually
>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>> from there.
>>
>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>> in ss8)
>
>Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share” from the
>menu no dialogue appears.
>
>Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>

https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA

....works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
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 by: Sam Wilson - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 14:46 UTC

Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the situation
>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>> formats)
>>>>
>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It used to be
>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that doesn’t actually
>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>> from there.
>>>
>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>> in ss8)
>>
>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share” from the
>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>
>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>
> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.

Let me try again, very slowly. Going To Links Works Fine But
I Can’t Share A Street View.

Sam

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 by: Marland - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:50 UTC

Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the situation
>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>> formats)
>>>>
>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It used to be
>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that doesn’t actually
>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>> from there.
>>>
>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>> in ss8)
>>
>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share” from the
>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>
>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>
> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.

Yes, I can turn on the PC and do the same, did you miss the bit about it is
when we wish to do it from an I-pad that it isn’t behaving like that, it
has in the past then it stopped working and behaved like it is doing at the
moment but in between it has worked.
The other feature which has never been available on the I-pad version but
is on the PC which would be a nice to have is the history slider where
you can view the various shots that google have taken on multiple drive
pasts , how long have they been on the road now 14 years or so?
Some places have changed beyond recognition in that time.
GH

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 by: Roland Perry - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 17:46 UTC

In message <su8h8c$pe7$1@dont-email.me>, at 14:46:36 on Sat, 12 Feb
2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>situation
>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>
>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>used to be
>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>doesn’t actually
>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>> from there.
>>>>
>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>> in ss8)
>>>
>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>from the
>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>
>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>
>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>
>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>
>Let me try again, very slowly. Going To Links Works Fine But
> I Can’t Share A Street View.

That's because your chosen "just works" Apple
Platform "only just works". And one of
the things it apparently doesn't work with
is... (answers on a postcard).
--
Roland Perry

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Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <su8h8c$pe7$1@dont-email.me>, at 14:46:36 on Sat, 12 Feb
> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>> used to be
>>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>> doesn’t actually
>>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>>> in ss8)
>>>>
>>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>> from the
>>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>>
>>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>>
>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>
>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>
>> Let me try again, very slowly. Going To Links Works Fine But
>> I Can’t Share A Street View.
>
> That's because your chosen "just works" Apple
> Platform "only just works". And one of
> the things it apparently doesn't work with
> is... (answers on a postcard).

Nowt to do with the platform and everything to do with the app code author.
Apple can’t force Google to write working code.

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 by: Roland Perry - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 17:49 UTC

In message <j6q3avF2nn5U1@mid.individual.net>, at 15:50:55 on Sat, 12
Feb 2022, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> remarked:
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>situation
>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>
>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>used to be
>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>doesn’t actually
>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>> from there.
>>>>
>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>> in ss8)
>>>
>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>from the
>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>
>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>
>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>
>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>
>Yes, I can turn on the PC and do the same, did you miss the bit about it is
>when we wish to do it from an I-pad that it isn’t behaving like that, it
>has in the past then it stopped working and behaved like it is doing at the
>moment but in between it has worked.
>The other feature which has never been available on the I-pad version but
>is on the PC which would be a nice to have is the history slider where
>you can view the various shots that google have taken on multiple drive
>pasts , how long have they been on the road now 14 years or so?
>Some places have changed beyond recognition in that time.

What is this nonsense about "ipad version"? Why can't you use a web
browser on the ipad, and access the same functionality as a browser
on any other platform?
--
Roland Perry

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Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <j6q3avF2nn5U1@mid.individual.net>, at 15:50:55 on Sat, 12
> Feb 2022, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> remarked:
>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>> used to be
>>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>> doesn’t actually
>>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>>> in ss8)
>>>>
>>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>> from the
>>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>>
>>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>>
>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>
>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>
>> Yes, I can turn on the PC and do the same, did you miss the bit about it is
>> when we wish to do it from an I-pad that it isn’t behaving like that, it
>> has in the past then it stopped working and behaved like it is doing at the
>> moment but in between it has worked.
>> The other feature which has never been available on the I-pad version but
>> is on the PC which would be a nice to have is the history slider where
>> you can view the various shots that google have taken on multiple drive
>> pasts , how long have they been on the road now 14 years or so?
>> Some places have changed beyond recognition in that time.
>
> What is this nonsense about "ipad version"? Why can't you use a web
> browser on the ipad, and access the same functionality as a browser
> on any other platform?

The app version is otherwise optimised for the iPad. It can use the
accelerometers for example so turning the iPad or tilting it up or down
would change the street view. But that seems broken now as well.

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Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the situation
>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>
>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It used to be
>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that doesn’t actually
>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>> from there.
>>>>
>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>> in ss8)
>>>
>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share” from the
>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>
>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>
>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>
>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>
> Yes, I can turn on the PC and do the same, did you miss the bit about it is
> when we wish to do it from an I-pad that it isn’t behaving like that, it
> has in the past then it stopped working and behaved like it is doing at the
> moment but in between it has worked.
> The other feature which has never been available on the I-pad version but
> is on the PC which would be a nice to have is the history slider where
> you can view the various shots that google have taken on multiple drive
> pasts , how long have they been on the road now 14 years or so?
> Some places have changed beyond recognition in that time.
> GH
>
>
>

Having experimented, the iPhone version allows street view links to be
shared. Just seems to be the iPad version that is broken.

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Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <j6q3avF2nn5U1@mid.individual.net>, at 15:50:55 on Sat, 12
>> Feb 2022, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> remarked:
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>>> used to be
>>>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>>> doesn’t actually
>>>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>>>> in ss8)
>>>>>
>>>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>>>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>>> from the
>>>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>>>
>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>>
>>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>>
>>> Yes, I can turn on the PC and do the same, did you miss the bit about it is
>>> when we wish to do it from an I-pad that it isn’t behaving like that, it
>>> has in the past then it stopped working and behaved like it is doing at the
>>> moment but in between it has worked.
>>> The other feature which has never been available on the I-pad version but
>>> is on the PC which would be a nice to have is the history slider where
>>> you can view the various shots that google have taken on multiple drive
>>> pasts , how long have they been on the road now 14 years or so?
>>> Some places have changed beyond recognition in that time.
>>
>> What is this nonsense about "ipad version"? Why can't you use a web
>> browser on the ipad, and access the same functionality as a browser
>> on any other platform?
>
> The app version is otherwise optimised for the iPad. It can use the
> accelerometers for example so turning the iPad or tilting it up or down
> would change the street view. But that seems broken now as well.
>
>

I take that back. Pressing the icon at the top right that looks like a
compass needle turns the feature on. I’m not very good at working out what
all these icon buttons mean.

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From: rai...@greywall.demon.co.uk (Graeme Wall)
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Subject: Re: Serious disruption on North Clyde Electrics
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 by: Graeme Wall - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:31 UTC

On 12/02/2022 12:46, Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former
>>>>>>>>> Southampton
>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>.   ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working.  Its been like that before
>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>> formats)
>>>>
>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment.  It used
>>>> to be
>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that doesn’t
>>>> actually
>>>> work at the moment.  You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>> from there.
>>>
>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>> in ss8)
>>
>> Going to links works fine.  On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share” from the
>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>
>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>
> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.

Works fine on an iMac PC, it's the current iteration of iPad software
that seems to be the problem.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

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Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <j6q3avF2nn5U1@mid.individual.net>, at 15:50:55 on Sat, 12
>>> Feb 2022, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> remarked:
>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>>>> used to be
>>>>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>>>> doesn’t actually
>>>>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>>>>> in ss8)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>>>>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>>>> from the
>>>>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>>>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>>>
>>>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I can turn on the PC and do the same, did you miss the bit about it is
>>>> when we wish to do it from an I-pad that it isn’t behaving like that, it
>>>> has in the past then it stopped working and behaved like it is doing at the
>>>> moment but in between it has worked.
>>>> The other feature which has never been available on the I-pad version but
>>>> is on the PC which would be a nice to have is the history slider where
>>>> you can view the various shots that google have taken on multiple drive
>>>> pasts , how long have they been on the road now 14 years or so?
>>>> Some places have changed beyond recognition in that time.
>>>
>>> What is this nonsense about "ipad version"? Why can't you use a web
>>> browser on the ipad, and access the same functionality as a browser
>>> on any other platform?
>>
>> The app version is otherwise optimised for the iPad. It can use the
>> accelerometers for example so turning the iPad or tilting it up or down
>> would change the street view. But that seems broken now as well.
>>
>>
>
> I take that back. Pressing the icon at the top right that looks like a
> compass needle turns the feature on. I’m not very good at working out what
> all these icon buttons mean.
>
>

Workaround for iPads:
Go to safari and enter Google maps in the url bar, this will open a Google
search page (assuming you have the defaults set to use Google for search)
with maps.google.com as one of the hits. Long press on that link. Select
open in background option. That will open maps in a new tab rather than
jumping to the app. Then you can use the web version, go to street view and
then simply copy the URL from the browser bar.

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 by: ColinR - Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:14 UTC

On 12/02/2022 17:51, Tweed wrote:
> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <su8h8c$pe7$1@dont-email.me>, at 14:46:36 on Sat, 12 Feb
>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>>> used to be
>>>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>>> doesn’t actually
>>>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>>>> in ss8)
>>>>>
>>>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>>>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>>> from the
>>>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>>>
>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>>
>>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>>
>>> Let me try again, very slowly. Going To Links Works Fine But
>>> I Can’t Share A Street View.
>>
>> That's because your chosen "just works" Apple
>> Platform "only just works". And one of
>> the things it apparently doesn't work with
>> is... (answers on a postcard).
>
> Nowt to do with the platform and everything to do with the app code author.
> Apple can’t force Google to write working code.
>

Why should Google write code that Apple can use, after all they are
direct competitors!

--
Colin

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 by: Roland Perry - Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:01 UTC

In message <su8s3j$2tl$1@dont-email.me>, at 17:51:47 on Sat, 12 Feb
2022, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <su8h8c$pe7$1@dont-email.me>, at 14:46:36 on Sat, 12 Feb
>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>>> used to be
>>>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>>> doesn’t actually
>>>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>>>> in ss8)
>>>>>
>>>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of
>>>>>Google Maps
>>>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>>> from the
>>>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>>>
>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>>
>>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>>
>>> Let me try again, very slowly. Going To Links Works Fine But
>>> I Can’t Share A Street View.
>>
>> That's because your chosen "just works" Apple
>> Platform "only just works". And one of
>> the things it apparently doesn't work with
>> is... (answers on a postcard).
>
>Nowt to do with the platform and everything to do with the app code author.
>Apple can’t force Google to write working code.

The conventional wisdom is that everything works better on Apple, not
just Apple's in-house apps.
--
Roland Perry

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Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <su8s3j$2tl$1@dont-email.me>, at 17:51:47 on Sat, 12 Feb
> 2022, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <su8h8c$pe7$1@dont-email.me>, at 14:46:36 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>>>> used to be
>>>>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>>>> doesn’t actually
>>>>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>>>>> in ss8)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of
>>>>>> Google Maps
>>>>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>>>> from the
>>>>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>>>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>>>
>>>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>>>
>>>> Let me try again, very slowly. Going To Links Works Fine But
>>>> I Can’t Share A Street View.
>>>
>>> That's because your chosen "just works" Apple
>>> Platform "only just works". And one of
>>> the things it apparently doesn't work with
>>> is... (answers on a postcard).
>>
>> Nowt to do with the platform and everything to do with the app code author.
>> Apple can’t force Google to write working code.
>
> The conventional wisdom is that everything works better on Apple, not
> just Apple's in-house apps.

Only in your mind. Microsoft’s applications work just as badly on Apple
platforms as on Microsoft’s own operating systems. Google’s products stay
as eternal betas on Apple platforms and vanish with little or no warning,
just as they do elsewhere.

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Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <su8s3j$2tl$1@dont-email.me>, at 17:51:47 on Sat, 12 Feb
>> 2022, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <su8h8c$pe7$1@dont-email.me>, at 14:46:36 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>>>>> used to be
>>>>>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>>>>> doesn’t actually
>>>>>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>>>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>>>>>> in ss8)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of
>>>>>>> Google Maps
>>>>>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>>>>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me try again, very slowly. Going To Links Works Fine But
>>>>> I Can’t Share A Street View.
>>>>
>>>> That's because your chosen "just works" Apple
>>>> Platform "only just works". And one of
>>>> the things it apparently doesn't work with
>>>> is... (answers on a postcard).
>>>
>>> Nowt to do with the platform and everything to do with the app code author.
>>> Apple can’t force Google to write working code.
>>
>> The conventional wisdom is that everything works better on Apple, not
>> just Apple's in-house apps.
>
> Only in your mind. Microsoft’s applications work just as badly on Apple
> platforms as on Microsoft’s own operating systems. Google’s products stay
> as eternal betas on Apple platforms and vanish with little or no warning,
> just as they do elsewhere.
>
>

Apple's strength is slightly different: it's stricter about what apps can
get into its app store than Google is. So the apps available in both are
equally good or bad, but the trashier Android apps don't get into the
iOS/iPadOS app store. There are also some good iOS apps that don't make it
on to Android, perhaps because they mainly target the iOS-dominated US
market. But even Geoff's LU Station Master app is iOS/iPadOS-only.

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Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <j6q3avF2nn5U1@mid.individual.net>, at 15:50:55 on Sat, 12
> Feb 2022, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> remarked:
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>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former Southampton
>>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of software
>>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>> used to be
>>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>> doesn’t actually
>>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but not a view
>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier (url ending
>>>>> in ss8)
>>>>
>>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of Google Maps
>>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>> from the
>>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>>
>>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this point or any
>>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>>
>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>
>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>
>> Yes, I can turn on the PC and do the same, did you miss the bit about it is
>> when we wish to do it from an I-pad that it isn’t behaving like that, it
>> has in the past then it stopped working and behaved like it is doing at the
>> moment but in between it has worked.
>> The other feature which has never been available on the I-pad version but
>> is on the PC which would be a nice to have is the history slider where
>> you can view the various shots that google have taken on multiple drive
>> pasts , how long have they been on the road now 14 years or so?
>> Some places have changed beyond recognition in that time.
>
> What is this nonsense about "ipad version"? Why can't you use a web
> browser on the ipad, and access the same functionality as a browser
> on any other platform?

The default browser on my iPhone shows the mobile web interface for Google
maps which is even more poorly-functioned than the app (it doesn't offer me
streetview at all, for example). The other two browsers I have, which in
theory have an option for showing desktop versions of websites, ping me
straight to the app when I try to open Google maps website.

Meanwhile the iPhone, rather than iPad, version on Google maps continues as
it ever did and allows me to create links from streetview, so it’s not an
"all iOS versions" problem.

It would be nice to have the 'older streetview' option, though.

Edit: thanks to Tweed's tips, I've managed to get desktop view to load in
Firefox! :D

Anna Noyd-Dryver

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Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Workaround for iPads:
> Go to safari and enter Google maps in the url bar, this will open a Google
> search page (assuming you have the defaults set to use Google for search)
> with maps.google.com as one of the hits. Long press on that link. Select
> open in background option. That will open maps in a new tab rather than
> jumping to the app. Then you can use the web version, go to street view and
> then simply copy the URL from the browser bar.
>
>

Thanks, just tried that and as an added bonus I see that the slider which
brings up the older views is available as well. Though not every location
has been revisited.
This train is still awaiting its driver.
<https://goo.gl/maps/zMMGqStNpHjSrnNx8>

GH

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 by: Marland - Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:05 UTC

Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:

>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>
>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>
>> Yes, I can turn on the PC and do the same, did you miss the bit about it is
>> when we wish to do it from an I-pad that it isn’t behaving like that, it
>> has in the past then it stopped working and behaved like it is doing at the
>> moment but in between it has worked.
>> The other feature which has never been available on the I-pad version but
>> is on the PC which would be a nice to have is the history slider where
>> you can view the various shots that google have taken on multiple drive
>> pasts , how long have they been on the road now 14 years or so?
>> Some places have changed beyond recognition in that time.
>
> What is this nonsense about "ipad version"? Why can't you use a web
> browser on the ipad, and access the same functionality as a browser
> on any other platform?

Don’t try and feign ignorance as if you don’t know that ipads have versions
of programmes tailored to them known as apps , a term that for some reason
I find irritating but has since spread to microsoft systems and others as
well.

At some point I did try the browser route when the problem occurred last
time but ISTR the gnomes who live inside all devices decided that to make
it use the app that was installed anyway,and then the problem disappeared
so it didn’t matter.
Tweed has helpfully posted the the sequence that stops it doing that and
so all is well,even if the niggle doesn’t go away again.

GH

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 by: Roland Perry - Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:13 UTC

In message <suab6k$f5g$1@dont-email.me>, at 07:15:32 on Sun, 13 Feb
2022, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <su8s3j$2tl$1@dont-email.me>, at 17:51:47 on Sat, 12 Feb
>> 2022, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <su8h8c$pe7$1@dont-email.me>, at 14:46:36 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <su82qd$vuf$1@dont-email.me>, at 10:40:13 on Sat, 12 Feb
>>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In message <su6li5$mnn$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:47:49 on Fri, 11 Feb
>>>>>>>> 2022, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not a tramway box but Southern Electric moved this former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corporation cabinet a long way from home when they moved it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaftesbury.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/vB6WS6WfPfTKgvB26>. ( You?ll need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look around)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or use https://goo.gl/maps/CKjXHUb1LZEVQYss8 ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, on an I pad google maps seem to playing up lately
>>>>>>>>>>>> and pasting
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the main image isn’t working. Its been like that before
>>>>>>>>>>>> then been
>>>>>>>>>>>> cured but it does make posting accurate views awkward while the
>>>>>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>>>>>> lasts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I’ve been finding the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't just affect Google Maps. There is a fair amount of
>>>>>>>>>>software
>>>>>>>>>> which is not configured to work properly with pads/phones despite it
>>>>>>>>>> being fairly obvious to those causing its use that those will be the
>>>>>>>>>> majority of devices used.
>>>>>>>>>> (see also - posting attachments in one of Micros**t's proprietary
>>>>>>>>>> formats)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While true, I don’t think that’s the issue at the moment. It
>>>>>>>>> used to be
>>>>>>>>> possible to share a URL for a street view image, but that
>>>>>>>>> doesn’t actually
>>>>>>>>> work at the moment. You can share a position on the map but
>>>>>>>>>not a view
>>>>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What equipment are you using. I've just pulled up that map, gone into
>>>>>>>> Streetview, and produced a link. As someone else did earlier
>>>>>>>>(url ending
>>>>>>>> in ss8)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Going to links works fine. On my iPad the “share” option of
>>>>>>> Google Maps
>>>>>>> works in map view but not in street view - if you select “share”
>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>> menu no dialogue appears.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here’s the map view, I can’t share a street view at this
>>>>>>>point or any
>>>>>>> other. <https://goo.gl/maps/nUrZNZn4Eefwo7988>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me try again, very slowly. Going To Links Works Fine
>>>>>
>>>>> I Can’t Share A Street View.
>>>>
>>>> That's because your chosen "just works" Apple
>>>> Platform "only just works". And one of
>>>> the things it apparently doesn't work with
>>>> is... (answers on a postcard).
>>>
>>> Nowt to do with the platform and everything to do with the app code author.
>>> Apple can’t force Google to write working code.
>>
>> The conventional wisdom is that everything works better on Apple, not
>> just Apple's in-house apps.
>
>Only in your mind.

I've never believed in the Church of Jobs, but the infallibility of
their products is often rammed down our throats.

>Microsoft’s applications work just as badly on Apple platforms as on
>Microsoft’s own operating systems. Google’s products stay as
>eternal betas on Apple platforms and vanish with little or no warning,
>just as they do elsewhere.

--
Roland Perry

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In message <j6rvtvFdjdrU1@mid.individual.net>, at 09:05:03 on Sun, 13
Feb 2022, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> remarked:
>Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/PANjZgJb1xK1MaFHA
>>>>
>>>> ...works for me, just like it always has. On a Windows PC.
>>>
>>> Yes, I can turn on the PC and do the same, did you miss the bit about it is
>>> when we wish to do it from an I-pad that it isn’t behaving like that, it
>>> has in the past then it stopped working and behaved like it is doing at the
>>> moment but in between it has worked.
>>> The other feature which has never been available on the I-pad version but
>>> is on the PC which would be a nice to have is the history slider where
>>> you can view the various shots that google have taken on multiple drive
>>> pasts , how long have they been on the road now 14 years or so?
>>> Some places have changed beyond recognition in that time.
>>
>> What is this nonsense about "ipad version"? Why can't you use a web
>> browser on the ipad, and access the same functionality as a browser
>> on any other platform?
>
>Don’t try and feign ignorance as if you don’t know that ipads have versions
>of programmes tailored to them known as apps , a term that for some reason
>I find irritating but has since spread to microsoft systems and others as
>well.

What an extraordinary conclusion to draw. All I said was "why not use
the web version *INSTEAD*

>At some point I did try the browser route when the problem occurred last
>time but ISTR the gnomes who live inside all devices decided that to make
>it use the app that was installed anyway,and then the problem disappeared
>so it didn’t matter.

Is it still the case that RTT no longer has apps, and you have to use
the browser version? I particularly liked the Android app, which while
slimmed down provided almost all the functionality I needed when out and
about (rather than sat at my desk).

It's also still one of the only two apps I've actually paid money for
(the other was one to fettle up photos, functionality that now appears
to be in the standard Android "gallery" app.

>Tweed has helpfully posted the the sequence that stops it doing that and
>so all is well,even if the niggle doesn’t go away again.

--
Roland Perry

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