On 23/03/2023 7:01 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 23/3/2023 11:24 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/03/2023 9:24 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 23/3/2023 6:23 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 21/03/2023 10:39 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 21/3/2023 5:41 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Compared to the old days, that's certainly the case.
>>>>>> Nonetheless, I find having a bi of poke under my right foot makes
>>>>>> for a most relaxing driving experience. Your opinions may be
>>>>>> otherwise. That's fine by me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting comment, I could understand saying that "a bit of poke
>>>>> under my right foot" made driving more fun or enjoyable but
>>>>> "relaxing"?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **Absolutely! MUCH more relaxing.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I still don't get it, please explain.
>>>
>>
>> **The first time I noticed how much more relaxing having a bit of
>> power was, was back in the 1970s. I would drive from Sydney to Thredbo
>> to ski in my 1.3L Escort. I swapped that car for a 1.6L (push rod)
>> Escort. When I arrived in either car, I was fucked. I just wanted to
>> get out and lie down for awhile. Then I bought a 2L Escort. I vividly
>> recall my first arrival in the 2L at Thredbo. I said to my passengers:
>> "I feel so relaxed that I could happily motor on to Melbourne."
>
> I doubt that "relaxed" feeling has all the much to do with power, more
> like a combination of many factors such as ride and comfort (seats) plus
> noise levels, a quiet ride is a relaxing ride.
> Possibly the more powerful engine cruises more effortlessly requiring
> less driver input which reduces stress, I had a 2.0lt Escort for a short
> time when I worked at Ford, compared to other cars of that time it
> wasn't short on power.
>>
>> I should add that I did a Peter Wherrett Advanced Driving course in my
>> 1.3L Escort. I learned a lot. The one thing I could never master was
>> throttle control. However, when I bought my 2L Escort, throttle
>> control suddenly made a lot of sense (the 1.3L simply didn't have
>> enough power). In the same way, the Suby, when in 'SPORT#' mode,
>> throttle control through corners is brilliant. There is huge engine
>> braking available when needed.
>>
>> Overtaking is just so much easier. Almost no planning is required. A
>> quick squirt on the accelerator and it's all over. Less powerful cars
>> require considerable planning, when overtaking.
>>
>> I find that most relaxing. And so does my partner. We can happily and
>> comfortably cover many kms when required. Very low stress.
>
> I get that but you don't need heaps of power for that, I drove to
> Ballarat today which is about 45mins from here, mostly 110kph on the
> Western Fwy which the old Merc handles with ease, it rides very nicely
> and is very quiet but only 126kw so not powerful.
>>
>> Now sure, it's stressful doing a fast run up (say) McQuarie Pass, but
>> that's a pretty rare event. Even so, the handling of the Suby is such
>> that the worry of disappearing into the scenery (no Armco in most
>> sections of McQuarie Pass) is almost non-existent. Of course, that has
>> nothing to do with power.
>
> I doubt that that type of drive is relaxing either:-)
>
>

**Fuck no. Last time we went up, I handed the wheel to my partner. I
gave her instructions on the way up. She told me at one point that there
was a Mazda closing up behind us. I said: "It's only a Mazda, stomp on
it. Trust in your car." She did and she left the Mazda in the dust (as
you'd expect). When we reached the top of the Pass, she had to pull
over, since she was shaking from the adrenaline rush. Not relaxing at all.

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On 23/03/2023 10:24 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:

> **The first time I noticed how much more relaxing having a bit of power
> was, was back in the 1970s. I would drive from Sydney to Thredbo to ski
> in my 1.3L Escort. I swapped that car for a 1.6L (push rod) Escort. When
> I arrived in either car, I was fucked. I just wanted to get out and lie
> down for awhile. Then I bought a 2L Escort. I vividly recall my first
> arrival in the 2L at Thredbo. I said to my passengers: "I feel so
> relaxed that I could happily motor on to Melbourne."

So you were one of the arseholes terrorising everybody on the Hume,
Monaro, and Snowy highways. Work all day Friday, go like hell to get to
Thredders before the bars closed. Ski all day Saturday, party all
Saturday night, ski all day Sunday then go like hell back to Sydney
while tired as hell.

Still I suppose that the skiers helped the NSW finances, the Goulbourn
and Cooma cops had a field day, the wreckers also had a good supply of
parts if you didn't mind washing the blood off.

I never liked going to Sydney (from Canberra) for the weekend in winter
against the skiers, especially along Lake George, it was bloody
dangerous with the idiot skiers overtaking in stupid places.

On 23/03/2023 9:57 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 23/03/2023 10:24 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> **The first time I noticed how much more relaxing having a bit of
>> power was, was back in the 1970s. I would drive from Sydney to Thredbo
>> to ski in my 1.3L Escort. I swapped that car for a 1.6L (push rod)
>> Escort. When I arrived in either car, I was fucked. I just wanted to
>> get out and lie down for awhile. Then I bought a 2L Escort. I vividly
>> recall my first arrival in the 2L at Thredbo. I said to my passengers:
>> "I feel so relaxed that I could happily motor on to Melbourne."
>
> So you were one of the arseholes terrorising everybody on the Hume,
> Monaro, and Snowy highways. Work all day Friday, go like hell to get to
> Thredders before the bars closed. Ski all day Saturday, party all
> Saturday night, ski all day Sunday then go like hell back to Sydney
> while tired as hell.
>
> Still I suppose that the skiers helped the NSW finances, the Goulbourn
> and Cooma cops had a field day, the wreckers also had a good supply of
> parts if you didn't mind washing the blood off.
>
> I never liked going to Sydney (from Canberra) for the weekend in winter
> against the skiers, especially along Lake George, it was bloody
> dangerous with the idiot skiers overtaking in stupid places.
>

**"Terrorising"? I don't think so. However, if you consider driving
quickly and safely everywhere, EXCEPT 20km either side of Goulburn
(because I value/d my driver's licence), then I guess so. And no, I try
not to drive tired. My ski trips were usually a week at a time, as
weekend skiers annoy the Hell out of me (we call them 'moving gates').
Oh and I am a non-drinker. So, no driving drunk for me. Ever.

FWIW: I have never been booked for any traffic offence when driving from
Sydney to the snow. Also, I was last booked (for speeding in a 50kph
zone) in 2006. I used to drive the same route twice a week for 15 years.
The arseholes changed the speed limits and I failed to notice. The
camera got me. So, I am not a crazy driver. I mostly remain within
posted limits at all times. Mostly.

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