Just an update.

Drove it back from t'other side of Pontefract to York like a frog with
me knees splayed, cos I cazzun get the seat back far enough for comfort.

Since then had nowt but rain. But a close inspection of said vehicule
has revealed that it has come with loads of extras. All necessary
camping gear, awning, wind breaks, thermal windscreen wraps, power hook
up cable, hose, filters, spare batteries, original handbook, and a
fitted dieseasal cab heater, reversing camera, steering lock, etc. etc.
Keep on finding stuff. It is a real bargain.

I have put my younger neighbour on t'insewerance to keep the cost down a
bit (it's less than the car) and he and his other half have agreed to
look after it for me in return for using it now and again. This is a
great arrangement as I couldn't do it all messen now.

First job, to get that driving captain's seat to slide further back.
It'll have to be remounted and the end of an under bench seat storage
locker behind it cut back a bit. Second job, get a tow bar fitted.

New lease of life!

Love it.

Tone

On 20/09/2023 12:58, Tone wrote:
> Just an update.
>
<Snip very good news>

> New lease of life!
>
> Love it.
>

You seem to have won this one.(colon, dash, right bracket)

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John.

On 20/09/2023 13:12, John Williamson wrote:
> On 20/09/2023 12:58, Tone wrote:
>> Just an update.
>>
> <Snip very good news>
>
>> New lease of life!
>>
>> Love it.
>>
>
> You seem to have won this one.(colon, dash, right bracket)
>

For a Hymer three years oldererer than my last one, it is in far
betterererer condition.

Might even enter it into a couple of classic vehicule rallies next year,
if I can sort out the public liability insewerance they demand for a
couple of million.

With the new aluminium mobility scooterer trailer coming, that holds two
scootererers that should be one hell of an outfit.

All we need now is to train up a mobility scootererer display team.

Formation loops and rolls anyone?

Tone

Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
> Just an update.
>
> Drove it back from t'other side of Pontefract to York like a frog with
> me knees splayed, cos I cazzun get the seat back far enough for comfort.
>
> Since then had nowt but rain. But a close inspection of said vehicule
> has revealed that it has come with loads of extras. All necessary
> camping gear, awning, wind breaks, thermal windscreen wraps, power hook
> up cable, hose, filters, spare batteries, original handbook, and a
> fitted dieseasal cab heater, reversing camera, steering lock, etc. etc.
> Keep on finding stuff. It is a real bargain.
>
> I have put my younger neighbour on t'insewerance to keep the cost down a
> bit (it's less than the car) and he and his other half have agreed to
> look after it for me in return for using it now and again. This is a
> great arrangement as I couldn't do it all messen now.
>
> First job, to get that driving captain's seat to slide further back.
> It'll have to be remounted and the end of an under bench seat storage
> locker behind it cut back a bit. Second job, get a tow bar fitted.
>
> New lease of life!
>
> Love it.
>
> Tone
>

Excellent news. Do you plan on fitting a tracker? Wish we’d had one in our
van.

It’s a common tactic for ne’er do wells to steal a van and then park it up
somewhere unobtrusive for 24 hrs to see if anyone comes looking for it
(anyone who had the foresight to fit a tracker that is).

You can get quite cheap ones that use a mobile SIM card and report the port
the position of your vehicle on request.

Tim

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On 20/09/2023 16:40, Tim+ wrote:
> Do you plan on fitting a tracker? Wish we’d had one in our
> van.
>
> It’s a common tactic for ne’er do wells to steal a van and then park it up
> somewhere unobtrusive for 24 hrs to see if anyone comes looking for it
> (anyone who had the foresight to fit a tracker that is).
>
> You can get quite cheap ones that use a mobile SIM card and report the port
> the position of your vehicle on request.
>
> Tim

Excellent idea Tim. Thanx

Tone

On 20/09/2023 13:42, Tone wrote:
> On 20/09/2023 13:12, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 20/09/2023 12:58, Tone wrote:
>>> Just an update.
>>>
>> <Snip very good news>
>>
>>> New lease of life!
>>>
>>> Love it.
>>>
>>
>> You seem to have won this one.(colon, dash, right bracket)
>>
>
> For a Hymer three years oldererer than my last one, it is in far
> betterererer condition.
>
> Might even enter it into a couple of classic vehicule rallies next year,
> if I can sort out the public liability insewerance they demand for a
> couple of million.
>
> With the new aluminium mobility scooterer trailer coming, that holds two
> scootererers that should be one hell of an outfit.
>
> All we need now is to train up a mobility scootererer display team.
>
> Formation loops and rolls anyone?

On this camp site, there's an old Dodge camper van, a couple of pitches
down from here.

It looks a bit like the first image here:

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/vintage-dodge-van.html

Not sure how something like this ever got to the UK.

On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 13:42:56 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:

>On 20/09/2023 13:12, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 20/09/2023 12:58, Tone wrote:
>>> Just an update.
>>>
>> <Snip very good news>
>>
>>> New lease of life!
>>>
>>> Love it.
>>>
>>
>> You seem to have won this one.(colon, dash, right bracket)
>>
>
>For a Hymer three years oldererer than my last one, it is in far
>betterererer condition.
>
>Might even enter it into a couple of classic vehicule rallies next year,
>if I can sort out the public liability insewerance they demand for a
>couple of million.
>
>With the new aluminium mobility scooterer trailer coming, that holds two
>scootererers that should be one hell of an outfit.
>
>All we need now is to train up a mobility scootererer display team.
>
>Formation loops and rolls anyone?
>
>Tone

Kinda like this ? :

https://www.plowingmatch.org/photos-videos/video-galleries/ipm-2013-videos/ipm-2013-dancing-tractors

John T.

On 20/09/2023 21:46, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On this camp site, there's an old Dodge camper van, a couple of pitches
> down from here.
>
> It looks a bit like the first image here:
>
> https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/vintage-dodge-van.html
>
> Not sure how something like this ever got to the UK.

Not by road any road up

Tone

On 20/09/2023 22:25, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>> All we need now is to train up a mobility scootererer display team.
>>
>> Formation loops and rolls anyone?
>>
>> Tone
>
> Kinda like this ? :
>
> https://www.plowingmatch.org/photos-videos/video-galleries/ipm-2013-videos/ipm-2013-dancing-tractors
>
> John T.

Powered line dancing? <Shudder>

This is more like what I have in mind:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ic0Rz-_Hpg&t=151s

Tone

In article <ueg53r$36el5$1@dont-email.me>, Tone <tone@email.com> on
Thu, 21 Sep 2023 at 02:09:15 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On 20/09/2023 22:25, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>>> All we need now is to train up a mobility scootererer display team.
>>>
>>> Formation loops and rolls anyone?
>>>
>>> Tone
>>
>> Kinda like this ? :
>>
>> https://www.plowingmatch.org/photos-videos/video-galleries/ipm-
>2013-videos/ipm-2013-dancing-tractors
>>
>> John T.
>
>Powered line dancing? <Shudder>
>
>This is more like what I have in mind:-
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ic0Rz-_Hpg&t=151s
>

I must send that URL to my brother. His SWMBO has had MS since she was
18 and half a century later is now in quite a bad way.
--
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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 20/09/2023 21:46, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On this camp site, there's an old Dodge camper van, a couple of pitches
> down from here.
>
> It looks a bit like the first image here:
>
> https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/vintage-dodge-van.html
>
> Not sure how something like this ever got to the UK.
>
A lot of strange American vehicles were brought over by US forces
personnel when they were stationed here durong the Cold War. They would
cost too much to take home at the end of their service here, so they got
sold to locals.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 20/09/2023 22:25, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 13:42:56 +0100, Tone <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 20/09/2023 13:12, John Williamson wrote:
>>> On 20/09/2023 12:58, Tone wrote:
>>>> Just an update.
>>>>
>>> <Snip very good news>
>>>
>>>> New lease of life!
>>>>
>>>> Love it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You seem to have won this one.(colon, dash, right bracket)
>>>
>>
>> For a Hymer three years oldererer than my last one, it is in far
>> betterererer condition.
>>
>> Might even enter it into a couple of classic vehicule rallies next year,
>> if I can sort out the public liability insewerance they demand for a
>> couple of million.
>>
>> With the new aluminium mobility scooterer trailer coming, that holds two
>> scootererers that should be one hell of an outfit.
>>
>> All we need now is to train up a mobility scootererer display team.
>>
>> Formation loops and rolls anyone?
>>
>> Tone
>
>
> Kinda like this ? :
>
> https://www.plowingmatch.org/photos-videos/video-galleries/ipm-2013-videos/ipm-2013-dancing-tractors
>
> John T.

Alternatively, there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r4lFilMM4w

Chris

On 21/09/2023 11:32, chrisnd@privacy.net wrote:
> Alternatively, there's this:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r4lFilMM4w
>
> Chris

Our morris side were going to do a similar thing as The Black Barrows
back in the 70s after the old RAF Hawker Hunter display team. But we didn't.

Too much like hard jbex that.

Tone

So exactly what is one of these vehicles, cannot say I've heard of
it,unless you have shedified your spelling of the name.
Brian

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"Tone" <tone@email.com> wrote in message
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> Just an update.
>
> Drove it back from t'other side of Pontefract to York like a frog with me
> knees splayed, cos I cazzun get the seat back far enough for comfort.
>
> Since then had nowt but rain. But a close inspection of said vehicule has
> revealed that it has come with loads of extras. All necessary camping
> gear, awning, wind breaks, thermal windscreen wraps, power hook up cable,
> hose, filters, spare batteries, original handbook, and a fitted dieseasal
> cab heater, reversing camera, steering lock, etc. etc. Keep on finding
> stuff. It is a real bargain.
>
> I have put my younger neighbour on t'insewerance to keep the cost down a
> bit (it's less than the car) and he and his other half have agreed to look
> after it for me in return for using it now and again. This is a great
> arrangement as I couldn't do it all messen now.
>
> First job, to get that driving captain's seat to slide further back. It'll
> have to be remounted and the end of an under bench seat storage locker
> behind it cut back a bit. Second job, get a tow bar fitted.
>
> New lease of life!
>
> Love it.
>
> Tone

On 21/09/2023 16:40, Brian Gaff wrote:
> So exactly what is one of these vehicles, cannot say I've heard of
> it,unless you have shedified your spelling of the name.
> Brian
>
Hymer are a German maker of motorhomes and camper vans. Fairly new to
the business, they didn't start until 1957.

https://www.hymer.com/gb/en

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John.

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 17:15:53 +0100, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

>On 21/09/2023 16:40, Brian Gaff wrote:
>> So exactly what is one of these vehicles, cannot say I've heard of
>> it,unless you have shedified your spelling of the name.
>> Brian
>>
>Hymer are a German maker of motorhomes and camper vans. Fairly new to
>the business, they didn't start until 1957.
>
>https://www.hymer.com/gb/en

Also :

Indiana-based Thor Industries acquired German-based Erwin Hymer Group
(EHG) in 2019, and became the largest global RV manufacturer in the
process.

This isn’t the first time Hymer set foot on American soil, but
hopefully it will be a better experience. Hymer bought a Canadian
camper company in 2016 and established Hymer North America, but
financial issues saw it shut down during Thor’s acquisition process
last year.

https://www.motor1.com/news/398132/hymer-usa-launches-euro-us/

John T.

So in my day when my parents were alive, and this wasin the late 60s and
early 70s, most of the motorhome makes were just fitted into an existing
vehicle like a Commer or VW. They tended to have roofs that could be raised
to give headroom.
I don't recall any bespoke makes.
Brian

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> On 21/09/2023 16:40, Brian Gaff wrote:
>> So exactly what is one of these vehicles, cannot say I've heard of
>> it,unless you have shedified your spelling of the name.
>> Brian
>>
> Hymer are a German maker of motorhomes and camper vans. Fairly new to the
> business, they didn't start until 1957.
>
> https://www.hymer.com/gb/en
>
> --
> Tciao for Now!
>
> John.

In this country in the 1960s up until the 1980s, if you wanted a
motorhome, you emulated Cliff and his mates and converted an old bus.

The we started importing Winnebagos from the USA and Hymers from Germany.

Now, once again, the fashion is for custom conversions, and those who
live on them full time do stealth conversions, which look like a
standard van from outside at ground level. This lets them get away with
parking overnight on almost any road or lorry park if necessary.

On 22/09/2023 10:23, Brian Gaff wrote:
> So in my day when my parents were alive, and this wasin the late 60s and
> early 70s, most of the motorhome makes were just fitted into an existing
> vehicle like a Commer or VW. They tended to have roofs that could be raised
> to give headroom.
> I don't recall any bespoke makes.
> Brian
>

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John.

On 22/09/2023 10:23, Brian Gaff wrote:
> So in my day when my parents were alive, and this wasin the late 60s and
> early 70s, most of the motorhome makes were just fitted into an existing
> vehicle like a Commer or VW. They tended to have roofs that could be raised
> to give headroom.
> I don't recall any bespoke makes.

Bedford Dormobile?

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On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 10:23:52 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

>So in my day when my parents were alive, and this wasin the late 60s and
>early 70s, most of the motorhome makes were just fitted into an existing
>vehicle like a Commer or VW. They tended to have roofs that could be raised
>to give headroom.
> I don't recall any bespoke makes.
> Brian

These companies buy the bare chassis + engine + drivetrain
< and cab perhaps> from the various auto manufacturers
and then build their mobile home onto it.
Tony's is a Fiat Hymer; here in North America - Ford and Dodge
were once popular frames but Mercedes has made recent inroads.
Even the fairly small camper vans - 20 feet - have toilets,
kitchen facilities, air conditioners, generators, fold-in fold-out
fold-up beds, furniture, & storage.

Not-that-many-years-ago we'd scoff at the large luxury motorhomes
with their $ 100. grand + price tags .. now a new 20 footer will
set you back $ 200. grand. < Canadian dollars >
John T.

On 22/09/2023 14:42, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 10:23:52 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
> <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So in my day when my parents were alive, and this wasin the late 60s and
>> early 70s, most of the motorhome makes were just fitted into an existing
>> vehicle like a Commer or VW. They tended to have roofs that could be raised
>> to give headroom.
>> I don't recall any bespoke makes.
>> Brian
>
> These companies buy the bare chassis + engine + drivetrain
> < and cab perhaps> from the various auto manufacturers
> and then build their mobile home onto it.
> Tony's is a Fiat Hymer; here in North America - Ford and Dodge
> were once popular frames but Mercedes has made recent inroads.
> Even the fairly small camper vans - 20 feet - have toilets,
> kitchen facilities, air conditioners, generators, fold-in fold-out
> fold-up beds, furniture, & storage.
>
> Not-that-many-years-ago we'd scoff at the large luxury motorhomes
> with their $ 100. grand + price tags .. now a new 20 footer will
> set you back $ 200. grand. < Canadian dollars >

When you said 'grand' I visualised a Bechstein or a Steinway and
wondered if it was a fold-up, store-up or collapsible one, or maybe
inflatable?

On second gooves, my mother had a grand but it was too big even for the
living room in a fairly roomy detached house, and even Hymers can't
compete with that. She gave it (the grand) away to an aspiring concert
pianist. We had room for a nice big Christmas tree that year.

Decorations from The Olden Dayes™ were found and pressed into service,
but being just after the war, we made most of the decorations - woven
paper baskets Danish Style, aluminiumiumium milk bockle topses cut into
a spiral. then pulled out a bit to extend them into sort-of spiral
cones, Lametta (floppy thin strips of a lead/tin alloy, bought) draped
over the branches, and probably, stuff I forget.

The lights lasted for years, and the bulbs were screw-in 12v variety.
When one *did* go open circuit, you had to guddle in the depths ofthe
tree and find theculprit, and since they were 'out', finding them
amongst the prickly neegles was a bit of a promble. <Speel chucker
throws wobbly> Unscrewing up to twenty blubs and screwing-in a good one
often took agesandages. I don't unforget the 'replacement' ever having
been a dud itself, but it would have been a fine ploy to escape
preparing (say) the Brussels sprouts.

I must be bored - writing all this <insert worm of choice>
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In article <ueki8r$bbd6$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar
..girolle.co.uk> on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 at 18:18:19 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 22/09/2023 14:42, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:

>> Not-that-many-years-ago we'd scoff at the large luxury motorhomes
>> with their $ 100. grand + price tags .. now a new 20 footer will
>> set you back $ 200. grand. < Canadian dollars >
>
>When you said 'grand' I visualised a Bechstein or a Steinway and
>wondered if it was a fold-up, store-up or collapsible one, or maybe
>inflatable?
>
>On second gooves, my mother had a grand but it was too big even for the
>living room in a fairly roomy detached house, and even Hymers can't
>compete with that. She gave it (the grand) away to an aspiring concert
>pianist. We had room for a nice big Christmas tree that year.
>
>Decorations from The Olden Dayes™ were found and pressed into service,
>but being just after the war, we made most of the decorations - woven
>paper baskets Danish Style, aluminiumiumium milk bockle topses cut into
>a spiral. then pulled out a bit to extend them into sort-of spiral
>cones, Lametta (floppy thin strips of a lead/tin alloy, bought) draped
>over the branches, and probably, stuff I forget.
>
>The lights lasted for years, and the bulbs were screw-in 12v variety.
>When one *did* go open circuit, you had to guddle in the depths ofthe
>tree and find theculprit, and since they were 'out', finding them
>amongst the prickly neegles was a bit of a promble. <Speel chucker
>throws wobbly> Unscrewing up to twenty blubs and screwing-in a good one
>often took agesandages. I don't unforget the 'replacement' ever having
>been a dud itself,

We (well my Dad did) solved the problem of bulbs blowing by lengthening
the chain and adding (in the case of a 20 bulb string) 2 extra bulbs. 70
years on my brother is still using the same string of bulbs (+2). Well
not quite, years ago he unsoldered the fabric and rubber covered wires
from the screw in cups and replaced them with modern PVC covered wire.

> but it would have been a fine ploy to escape
>preparing (say) the Brussels sprouts.

Please do not spoil the pleasant memories of the Christmases of
yesteryear, by talking about the Balls of the Devil.
>
>I must be bored - writing all this <insert worm of choice>

Interesting

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>>
>> Not-that-many-years-ago we'd scoff at the large luxury motorhomes
>> with their $ 100. grand + price tags .. now a new 20 footer will
>> set you back $ 200. grand. < Canadian dollars >
>
>When you said 'grand' I visualised a Bechstein or a Steinway and
>wondered if it was a fold-up, store-up or collapsible one, or maybe
>inflatable?
>
>On second gooves, my mother had a grand but it was too big even for the
>living room in a fairly roomy detached house, and even Hymers can't
>compete with that. She gave it (the grand) away to an aspiring concert
>pianist. We had room for a nice big Christmas tree that year.
>

Our piano is quite similar to the one at this recent auction sale,
but perhaps not worth quite as much .. :-)

https://jantziauctions.hibid.com/lot/168136547/berbard-heintzman-toronto-piano?ref=catalog

I think they're called upright grand pianos.

What once would have been the pride-of-the-parlor,
today - you can't give them away.
John T.

On 22/09/2023 18:18, RustyHinge wrote:

> On second gooves, my mother had a grand but it was too big even for the
> living room in a fairly roomy detached house, and even Hymers can't
> compete with that. She gave it (the grand) away to an aspiring concert
> pianist. We had room for a nice big Christmas tree that year.
>
> Decorations from The Olden Dayes™ were found and pressed into service,
> but being just after the war, we made most of the decorations - woven
> paper baskets  Danish Style, aluminiumiumium milk bockle topses cut into
> a spiral. then pulled out a bit to extend them into sort-of spiral
> cones, Lametta (floppy thin strips of a lead/tin alloy, bought) draped
> over the branches, and probably, stuff I forget.

I read that and the 'orrible taste of the glue came to mind - from when
we sat down to make up those paper-chain decorations - they were stuck
to the ceiling in a diagonal pattern between the ceiling light fitting
and the corners of the room. Who needs a professional decorator when
you have artistic skills like that?

Then there was the "Blowing Up of the Balloons", and sticking them up at
ceiling level.

On 22/09/2023 20:20, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> I read that and the 'orrible taste of the glue came to mind - from when
> we sat down to make up those paper-chain decorations - they were stuck
> to the ceiling in a diagonal pattern between the ceiling light fitting
> and the corners of the room.  Who needs a professional decorator when
> you have artistic skills like that?
>
> Then there was the "Blowing Up of the Balloons", and sticking them up at
> ceiling level.

Suddenly unforgets how we used to make paper 'lanterns' out of coloured
foolscap. It involved cutting lots of parallel slits in the paper, that
didn't go to the bottom or top of the paper in landscape. Deft jbex with
scissors or sharp knife or razor blade required. You then curled the
paper into a tube and glued it, then squashed it top to bottom a bit. If
you were really brave you put it over a nightlight candle. Don't
unforget that many catching fire unless a draft blew them over!

As well as paper chains, we also stuck long strips of coloured tissue
paper together, and twisted them before hanging them up across the room.

As a kid I can't ever call again actually buying decorations. Even the
tree was a real one with roots that was dug up from the garding, potted
and replanted at New Year.

Tone