I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.

I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)

See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/

What is Matti Vari?

I can however post via Eternal september.....

Anyone know whats going on?

On 19/10/2021 10:59, SH wrote:
> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>
> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>
> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>
> What is Matti Vari?
>
> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>
> Anyone know whats going on?

Is Aioe Italian? Looking through that link you gave shows several
Italian words or phrases as reasons for access restrictions.

According to DeepL Translator, "matti vari" is Italian for "various
madmen" or "various nutcases". We might all have our own ideas as to
which thread(s) that applies to, but I couldn't possible comment.

--

Jeff

On 19/10/2021 11:29, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 19/10/2021 10:59, SH wrote:
>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>
>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>
>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>
>> What is Matti Vari?
>>
>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>>
>> Anyone know whats going on?
>
> Is Aioe Italian? Looking through that link you gave shows several
> Italian words or phrases as reasons for access restrictions.
>
> According to DeepL Translator, "matti vari" is Italian for "various
> madmen" or "various nutcases". We might all have our own ideas as to
> which thread(s) that applies to, but I couldn't possible comment.
>

That is more of a problem on uk.d-i-y but thats not banned....

SH wrote:

> Anyone know whats going on?

aioe is not really fit for purpose, it doesn't handle flood messages well, it
lets trolls forge IDs and nymshift with impunity, I flag all messages from it as
as "untrustworthy".

On 19/10/2021 11:36, Andy Burns wrote:
> SH wrote:
>
>> Anyone know whats going on?
>
> aioe is not really fit for purpose, it doesn't handle flood messages
> well, it lets trolls forge IDs and nymshift with impunity, I flag all
> messages from it as as "untrustworthy".

what is nymshift?

On 19/10/2021 11:36, Andy Burns wrote:
> SH wrote:

>> Anyone know whats going on?
>
> aioe is not really fit for purpose, it doesn't handle flood messages
> well, it lets trolls forge IDs and nymshift with impunity, I flag all
> messages from it as as "untrustworthy".

What do you expect for something free that you don't even have to sign
up to?

--
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Max Demian wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> aioe is not really fit for purpose
>
> What do you expect for something free that you don't even have to sign up to?

I don't expect anything, I don't use it apart from tests, and in effect I
slightly mark down anyone who does use it ... NIN is hardly expensive.

On 19/10/2021 11:29, Jeff Layman wrote:
>
> According to DeepL Translator, "matti vari" is Italian for "various
> madmen" or "various nutcases". We might all have our own ideas as to
> which thread(s) that applies to, but I couldn't possible comment.

Seems a fair description, these days ...

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On 19/10/2021 15:12, Andy Burns wrote:
> Max Demian wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> aioe is not really fit for purpose
>>
>> What do you expect for something free that you don't even have to sign
>> up to?
>
> I don't expect anything, I don't use it apart from tests, and in effect
> I slightly mark down anyone who does use it ... NIN is hardly expensive.

NIN?

Nine Inch Nails?

On 19/10/2021 16:49, SH wrote:
> On 19/10/2021 15:12, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Max Demian wrote:
>>
>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> aioe is not really fit for purpose
>>>
>>> What do you expect for something free that you don't even have to
>>> sign up to?
>>
>> I don't expect anything, I don't use it apart from tests, and in
>> effect I slightly mark down anyone who does use it ... NIN is hardly
>> expensive.
>
> NIN?
>
> Nine Inch Nails?

"Yes, folks, you need the very latest in hardware to guarantee a
doggoned good crucifixion!" ... of usenet trolls.

Psst! Actually, I think he means News.Individual.Net!

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Java Jive wrote:

> On 19/10/2021 16:49, SH wrote:
>
>> NIN?
>> Nine Inch Nails?
>
> "Yes, folks, you need the very latest in hardware to guarantee a doggoned good
> crucifixion!" ... of usenet trolls.

A popular beat combo m'lud.

On 19/10/2021 17:39, Andy Burns wrote:
>
> Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 19/10/2021 16:49, SH wrote:
>>
>>> NIN?
>>> Nine Inch Nails?
>>
>> "Yes, folks, you need the very latest in hardware to guarantee a
>> doggoned good crucifixion!" ... of usenet trolls.
>
> A popular beat combo m'lud.

LOL! So it is! Although I rather suspect the lass of having had the
bicycle pump treatment ...

https://www.nin.com/

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I would have thought there are worse groups for crazy messages myself. It
should not be for the server to black list groups I don't think. Have you
tried writing to them, I got a ban on there as my name was similar to
somebody else who was trolling generally, and it was fixed.
Brian

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"Jeff Layman" <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 19/10/2021 10:59, SH wrote:
>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>
>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>
>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>
>> What is Matti Vari?
>>
>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>>
>> Anyone know whats going on?
>
> Is Aioe Italian? Looking through that link you gave shows several Italian
> words or phrases as reasons for access restrictions.
>
> According to DeepL Translator, "matti vari" is Italian for "various
> madmen" or "various nutcases". We might all have our own ideas as to which
> thread(s) that applies to, but I couldn't possible comment.
>
> --
>
> Jeff

Its very strange as if I post here I see it there, but if I post it there,
then it either vanishes into limbo land or generates error mentioned. I
think this has to be finger trouble at the server end. If you use that
server a lot why not do as I say and write to them.
After all banning just posting does seem to be pointless in the extreme, if
you are going to allow people posting elsewhere to be seen.
Brian

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"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:skomha$gt8$1@dont-email.me...
>I would have thought there are worse groups for crazy messages myself. It
>should not be for the server to black list groups I don't think. Have you
>tried writing to them, I got a ban on there as my name was similar to
>somebody else who was trolling generally, and it was fixed.
> Brian
>
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> "Jeff Layman" <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:skm6m9$bud$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 19/10/2021 10:59, SH wrote:
>>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>>
>>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>>
>>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>>
>>> What is Matti Vari?
>>>
>>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>>>
>>> Anyone know whats going on?
>>
>> Is Aioe Italian? Looking through that link you gave shows several Italian
>> words or phrases as reasons for access restrictions.
>>
>> According to DeepL Translator, "matti vari" is Italian for "various
>> madmen" or "various nutcases". We might all have our own ideas as to
>> which thread(s) that applies to, but I couldn't possible comment.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jeff
>
>

On 20/10/2021 10:39, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Its very strange as if I post here I see it there, but if I post it there,
> then it either vanishes into limbo land or generates error mentioned. I
> think this has to be finger trouble at the server end. If you use that
> server a lot why not do as I say and write to them.
> After all banning just posting does seem to be pointless in the extreme, if
> you are going to allow people posting elsewhere to be seen.
> Brian

No, Brian, it's because a certain troll posted anti-gay and anti-women
sentiment, and has been nym-shifting regularly for over a year.

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On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:59:54 +0100, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

>I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>
>I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>
>See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>
>What is Matti Vari?
>
>I can however post via Eternal september.....

*** Other Newsnet providers are available.

On 21/10/2021 17:02, Scott wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:59:54 +0100, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>
>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>
>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>
>> What is Matti Vari?
>>
>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>
> *** Other Newsnet providers are available.
>

but they charge money and want personal details....

The weird thing is that it still updates on there from here, and so I see no
sense in just rejecting direct posts.
I think its finger trouble on the part of their admin.
Brian

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"SH" <i.love@spam.com> wrote in message news:sksmde$4s9$1@dont-email.me...
> On 21/10/2021 17:02, Scott wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:59:54 +0100, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>>
>>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>>
>>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>>
>>> What is Matti Vari?
>>>
>>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>>
>> *** Other Newsnet providers are available.
>>
>
>
> but they charge money and want personal details....
>

>"SH" <i.love@spam.com> wrote in message news:sksmde$4s9$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 21/10/2021 17:02, Scott wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:59:54 +0100, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>>>
>>>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>>>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>>>
>>>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>>>
>>>> What is Matti Vari?
>>>>
>>>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>>>
>>> *** Other Newsnet providers are available.
>>>
>>
>>
>> but they charge money and want personal details....
>>

I pay a bit over £2/month for a good reliable news server.
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On 24/10/2021 09:34, Martin wrote:
>
>
>> "SH"<i.love@spam.com> wrote in message news:sksmde$4s9$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 21/10/2021 17:02, Scott wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:59:54 +0100, SH<i.love@spam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>>>>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>>>>
>>>>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>>>>
>>>>> What is Matti Vari?
>>>>>
>>>>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>>>>
>>>> *** Other Newsnet providers are available.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> but they charge money and want personal details....
>>>
>
> I pay a bit over £2/month for a good reliable news server.

I did it differently. For text I use a free news server. For binaries I
bought 1Tb of data without an expiry date. Headers are free but bodies
are deducted from my data balance.

If my data lasts more than 3 months (I only bought it a month ago) then
my deal will be cheaper than yours.

Jim

On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 10:15:37 +0100, Indy Jess John
<bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:

>On 24/10/2021 09:34, Martin wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "SH"<i.love@spam.com> wrote in message news:sksmde$4s9$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 21/10/2021 17:02, Scott wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:59:54 +0100, SH<i.love@spam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>>>>>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is Matti Vari?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>>>>>
>>>>> *** Other Newsnet providers are available.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> but they charge money and want personal details....
>>>>
>>
>> I pay a bit over £2/month for a good reliable news server.
>
>I did it differently. For text I use a free news server. For binaries I
>bought 1Tb of data without an expiry date. Headers are free but bodies
>are deducted from my data balance.
>
>If my data lasts more than 3 months (I only bought it a month ago) then
>my deal will be cheaper than yours.
>
>Jim

The cost is so little I can't understand why people use crappy free news servers
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On 25/10/2021 12:05, Martin wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 10:15:37 +0100, Indy Jess John
> <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 24/10/2021 09:34, Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "SH"<i.love@spam.com> wrote in message news:sksmde$4s9$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 21/10/2021 17:02, Scott wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:59:54 +0100, SH<i.love@spam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>>>>>>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is Matti Vari?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** Other Newsnet providers are available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> but they charge money and want personal details....
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I pay a bit over £2/month for a good reliable news server.
>>
>> I did it differently. For text I use a free news server. For binaries I
>> bought 1Tb of data without an expiry date. Headers are free but bodies
>> are deducted from my data balance.
>>
>> If my data lasts more than 3 months (I only bought it a month ago) then
>> my deal will be cheaper than yours.
>>
>> Jim
>
> The cost is so little I can't understand why people use crappy free news servers

Which "crappy" free news servers did you have in mind? I used Albasani
for many years until it folded, with Eternal September as a backup (it
was rarely required). I now use Eternal September with Solani as a
backup. I have had very few issues with ES, and on the two or three
times it has gone down I've used the backup without problem. I don't see
that any of those merit the term "crappy". I seem, by the way, to have
no need of binaries; is there any particular reason you need them?

I assume you're using the Agent Usenet service through forteinc.com (I'm
a bit puzzled why, from your headers, complaints go to
abuse@easynews.com. Is there a tie up?). Why would I require its
"Blazing Fast Connections" for usenet? And why, when I don't use
binaries, would I need umpteen GB a month?

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On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 13:47:58 +0100, Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On 25/10/2021 12:05, Martin wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 10:15:37 +0100, Indy Jess John
>> <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/10/2021 09:34, Martin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "SH"<i.love@spam.com> wrote in message news:sksmde$4s9$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> On 21/10/2021 17:02, Scott wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:59:54 +0100, SH<i.love@spam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>>>>>>>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is Matti Vari?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *** Other Newsnet providers are available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but they charge money and want personal details....
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I pay a bit over £2/month for a good reliable news server.
>>>
>>> I did it differently. For text I use a free news server. For binaries I
>>> bought 1Tb of data without an expiry date. Headers are free but bodies
>>> are deducted from my data balance.
>>>
>>> If my data lasts more than 3 months (I only bought it a month ago) then
>>> my deal will be cheaper than yours.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> The cost is so little I can't understand why people use crappy free news servers
>
>Which "crappy" free news servers did you have in mind?

The ones that people complain about here.

>I used Albasani
>for many years until it folded, with Eternal September as a backup (it
>was rarely required). I now use Eternal September with Solani as a
>backup. I have had very few issues with ES, and on the two or three
>times it has gone down I've used the backup without problem. I don't see
>that any of those merit the term "crappy". I seem, by the way, to have
>no need of binaries; is there any particular reason you need them?
>
>I assume you're using the Agent Usenet service through forteinc.com (I'm
>a bit puzzled why, from your headers, complaints go to
>abuse@easynews.com. Is there a tie up?). Why would I require its
>"Blazing Fast Connections" for usenet? And why, when I don't use
>binaries, would I need umpteen GB a month?

I have never had an issue with the Agent Usenet Service.
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 10:09:19 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

>I have never had an issue with the Agent Usenet Service.

Neither have I. The only bit of minor bother I've had is that shortly
after I set it up my bank queried the very small monthly payment in
dollars, possibly because it triggered an unusual behaviour alert, but
since then it's been fine. It just works.

Rod.

On 26/10/2021 09:09, Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 13:47:58 +0100, Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 25/10/2021 12:05, Martin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 10:15:37 +0100, Indy Jess John
>>> <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/10/2021 09:34, Martin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "SH"<i.love@spam.com> wrote in message news:sksmde$4s9$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> On 21/10/2021 17:02, Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:59:54 +0100, SH<i.love@spam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have access to both AOIE and Eternal september.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I cannot post anything new to UK.tech.digital-tv via AIOE as
>>>>>>>>> Uk.tech.digital-tv is on the ban list with a reason of Matti vari (?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is Matti Vari?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can however post via Eternal september.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *** Other Newsnet providers are available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but they charge money and want personal details....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I pay a bit over £2/month for a good reliable news server.
>>>>
>>>> I did it differently. For text I use a free news server. For binaries I
>>>> bought 1Tb of data without an expiry date. Headers are free but bodies
>>>> are deducted from my data balance.
>>>>
>>>> If my data lasts more than 3 months (I only bought it a month ago) then
>>>> my deal will be cheaper than yours.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> The cost is so little I can't understand why people use crappy free news servers
>>
>> Which "crappy" free news servers did you have in mind?
>
> The ones that people complain about here.
>
>> I used Albasani
>> for many years until it folded, with Eternal September as a backup (it
>> was rarely required). I now use Eternal September with Solani as a
>> backup. I have had very few issues with ES, and on the two or three
>> times it has gone down I've used the backup without problem. I don't see
>> that any of those merit the term "crappy". I seem, by the way, to have
>> no need of binaries; is there any particular reason you need them?
>>
>> I assume you're using the Agent Usenet service through forteinc.com (I'm
>> a bit puzzled why, from your headers, complaints go to
>> abuse@easynews.com. Is there a tie up?). Why would I require its
>> "Blazing Fast Connections" for usenet? And why, when I don't use
>> binaries, would I need umpteen GB a month?
>
> I have never had an issue with the Agent Usenet Service.

That's an answer to a question I didn't ask. What about the three other
points? FWIW, I've been using ES daily for several hours for 5 years.
For a free service, two or three outages for an hour or two in 5 years
is quite acceptable to me. YMMV.

By the way, I use a definitely not crappy free OS (Linux Mint) instead
of paying for one I don't need (although I have donated to Mint). If you
must use Agent, you've got to use Windows or mess around with Wine,
which can then leave Linux vulnerable to Windows malware. But then I see
it is possible to use the AUS without using Agent itself
(https://www.forteinc.com/apn/faq.php#4B384B55BF89E3A188256D64005C7AF7).

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