On 03/11/2021 19:21, williamwright wrote:
>
> On 02/11/2021 09:49, Jim Lesurf wrote:
>>
>> Seems a shame to miss the Proms as fall-out from your political rigidity.
>
> Rigidity? Is that the woke term for 'principled'?

Bob Latham is a strange person to call 'principled'! Is lying to this
ng for 18 months about climate change and covid-19 principled?

Might pass if you put an 'un' before it though ...

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On 03/11/2021 19:31, williamwright wrote:
>
> Well said.

No, just the usual bigotry.

> It's a crying shame how the BBC has been ruined. It'll go
> eventually, because it's shit in its own nest, and that will be a
> terrible loss, compared to what it was twenty or more years ago.

I wonder if you'll outlast the BBC? Times change, things move on,
people adopt different beliefs, politics, and lifestyles, and both the
BBC and us old'uns have to move with the times or get left behind.

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On 03/11/2021 19:46, Java Jive wrote:
> On 03/11/2021 16:32, Norman Wells wrote:
>> On 03/11/2021 15:14, Mark Carver wrote:
>>>
>>> House of Cards (forget the last series, that was made without Spacey
>>> for obvious reasons)
>>
>> It's strange, isn't it, how people suddenly become bad actors, even in
>> previously lauded roles, when they get accused of doing something
>> #metoo that upsets the snowflakes.
>>
>> Convictions not required.
>
> See below ...
>
>> Outstanding cases not required.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/movies/kevin-spacey-anthony-rapp-lawsuit.html
>
>
> I don't know if the above case was continued, and if so is still
> ongoing, or what the final outcome was, but the article mentions a
> couple of other cases that rather mysteriously ended.  Perhaps they were
> fraudulent accusations, or perhaps the claimants were bribed off or
> leaned on, one at least was withdrawn after threats from Spacey's lawyers.
>
>> Judgement by accusation meaning he'll never work again.  Is that
>> really what we've come to?
>
> I think we have to wait to find out what the courts decide.

No we don't.

"On July 17, 2019, the criminal assault charge against Spacey was
dropped by the Cape and Islands prosecutors.[144] When the anonymous
massage therapist who accused him died, the last remaining criminal case
against Spacey was closed.[145]

On September 9, 2020, Rapp sued Spacey for sexual assault, sexual
battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress under the
Child Victims Act, which extended New York's statute of limitations for
civil suits related to child sexual abuse.[146] Joining Rapp in the suit
against Spacey was a man who requested to remain anonymous who accused
Spacey of sexually abusing him in 1983, when he was 14 and Spacey was
24.[147] On June 17, 2021, the anonymous accuser was dismissed from the
case due to his refusal to publicly identify himself."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Spacey#Legal_issues

On 03/11/2021 20:32, Norman Wells wrote:
>
> On 03/11/2021 19:46, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 03/11/2021 16:32, Norman Wells wrote:
>>>
>>> Outstanding cases not required.
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/movies/kevin-spacey-anthony-rapp-lawsuit.html
>>
>> I don't know if the above case was continued, and if so is still
>> ongoing, or what the final outcome was, but the article mentions a
>> couple of other cases that rather mysteriously ended.  Perhaps they
>> were fraudulent accusations, or perhaps the claimants were bribed off
>> or leaned on, one at least was withdrawn after threats from Spacey's
>> lawyers.
>>
>>> Judgement by accusation meaning he'll never work again.  Is that
>>> really what we've come to?
>>
>> I think we have to wait to find out what the courts decide.
>
> No we don't.
>
> "On July 17, 2019, the criminal assault charge against Spacey was
> dropped by the Cape and Islands prosecutors.[144] When the anonymous
> massage therapist who accused him died, the last remaining criminal case
> against Spacey was closed.[145]
>
> On September 9, 2020, Rapp sued Spacey for sexual assault, sexual
> battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress under the
> Child Victims Act, which extended New York's statute of limitations for
> civil suits related to child sexual abuse.[146] Joining Rapp in the suit
> against Spacey was a man who requested to remain anonymous who accused
> Spacey of sexually abusing him in 1983, when he was 14 and Spacey was
> 24.[147] On June 17, 2021, the anonymous accuser was dismissed from the
> case due to his refusal to publicly identify himself."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Spacey#Legal_issues

I think we do, as that states apparently that the Rapp case is still extant.

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On 03/11/2021 16:32, Norman Wells wrote:
> On 03/11/2021 15:14, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 03/11/2021 13:55, MB wrote:
>>> On 03/11/2021 12:18, Indy Jess John wrote:
>>>> I know of two families who have no internet access and are happy with
>>>> Freeview broadcasts.  At their age they don't need any of the "new
>>>> fangled stuff".
>>>>
>>>> One size doesn't fit all.
>>>
>>>
>>> I only have Freeview Lite but plenty to watch.  I rarely watch ITV
>>> or CH4, nothing worth watching. I have looked at the US owned stream
>>> services and don't see anything to interest me, never watch American
>>> soap operas.
>>
>> There's some real 'top drawer' American drama series on Netflix and
>> Amazon, way better and way 'deeper' than anything we can produce in
>> this country. None of it has been made for, or is shown on regular US TV
>>
>> Goliath
>> Bosch
>> Breaking Bad
>> Ozark
>> Better Call Saul
>> The Sinner (been shown on BBC 4)
>> House of Cards (forget the last series, that was made without Spacey
>> for obvious reasons)
>
> It's strange, isn't it, how people suddenly become bad actors, even in
> previously lauded roles, when they get accused of doing something
> #metoo that upsets the snowflakes.

Yes. I was surprised, but glad, Netflix didn't do a Shift-Del on the
whole series, there's some fabulous episodes in there.

On Wed, 03 Nov 2021 18:35:20 +0000 (GMT), charles
<charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

>In article <rpi5ogtm7et337fsecqgvf14v1bkrkvfav@4ax.com>,
> Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2021 10:56:53 +0000 (GMT), Bob Latham
>> <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >The BBC allowed the proms to become political and even tried to make
>> >it woke themselves.
>
>> Quite. I bet most people could hum a tune from something by Beethoven
>> or Mozart or any of the other well known composers, but probably
>> couldn't previously even have named many of the ones introduced to us
>> in some recent Proms, and perhaps couldn't remember their names now,
>> after having heard them.
>
>Why blame the Proms for that? I can remember being taken to a concert in
>the Usher Hall by my father when I was in my teens (1950s) where this
>happened.

It's quite common to include something modern or little known in a
concert. It's usually the first item and it's usually short. Most
people are happy with this arrangement and would probably acknowledge
it as a Good Thing that new or unfamiliar works should be introduced
in this way, but concert organisers need to be wary of departing too
far from formality. Lately we seem to have been presented with an
unusual amount of material of which the choice doesn't always appear
to have had much to do with the actual music.

Rod.

On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 19:51:55 +0000, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
wrote:

>On 03/11/2021 19:21, williamwright wrote:
>>
>> On 02/11/2021 09:49, Jim Lesurf wrote:
>>>
>>> Seems a shame to miss the Proms as fall-out from your political rigidity.
>>
>> Rigidity? Is that the woke term for 'principled'?
>
>Bob Latham is a strange person to call 'principled'! Is lying to this
>ng for 18 months about climate change and covid-19 principled?
>
>Might pass if you put an 'un' before it though ...

Even if they were lies, I can't see any connection between Covid-19
and the Proms, except that for one year the former ruined the last
night of the latter.

Rod.

On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 12:28:41 -0000 (UTC), Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

>Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
>> On 03/11/2021 10:26, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>>> The BBC could quite easily become an online subscription service,
>>
>> I know of two families who have no internet access and are happy with
>> Freeview broadcasts. At their age they don't need any of the "new
>> fangled stuff".
>>
>> One size doesn't fit all.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>
>The politicians aren’t going to give up on the licence fee. They know they
>need a mass audience route to the voters with no subscription provider
>acting as gatekeeper.

They could copy the Dutch solution. No license fee, three public service
channels for serious things funded by the infrastructure and all the light
entertainment, sports etc, provided by commercial channels.
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On 04/11/2021 10:49, Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 12:28:41 -0000 (UTC), Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
>>> On 03/11/2021 10:26, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>>>> The BBC could quite easily become an online subscription service,
>>>
>>> I know of two families who have no internet access and are happy with
>>> Freeview broadcasts. At their age they don't need any of the "new
>>> fangled stuff".
>>>
>>> One size doesn't fit all.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The politicians aren’t going to give up on the licence fee. They know they
>> need a mass audience route to the voters with no subscription provider
>> acting as gatekeeper.
>
> They could copy the Dutch solution. No license fee, three public service
> channels for serious things funded by the infrastructure and all the light
> entertainment, sports etc, provided by commercial channels.

"Infrastructure"? I thought it was general taxation.

And with the important difference that most in the Netherlands use
cable, internet or satellite TV.

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On 04/11/2021 10:41, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 19:51:55 +0000, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 03/11/2021 19:21, williamwright wrote:
>>>
>>> Rigidity? Is that the woke term for 'principled'?
>>
>> Bob Latham is a strange person to call 'principled'! Is lying to this
>> ng for 18 months about climate change and covid-19 principled?
>>
>> Might pass if you put an 'un' before it though ...
>
> Even if they were lies, I can't see any connection between Covid-19
> and the Proms, except that for one year the former ruined the last
> night of the latter.

I can see a connection between being unprincipled and lying.

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In article <mom4og1ku4kpa0i0buqdufv3kmf7u6cvou@4ax.com>, Roderick
Stewart
<rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2021 09:49:57 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
> <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:

> >> Can't stomach watching the BBC these days.
> >
> >Seems a shame to miss the Proms as fall-out from your political
> >rigidity.

> The BBC could quite easily become an online subscription service,
> perhaps offering different subscription channels for different types of
> programming, or individual programmes offered for one-off payments.

[snip]

> There would be no reason to miss the Proms, or anything else for which
> there was a demand. You could just pay for the season, or for individual
> concerts, and nobody would need to be legally compelled to pay for
> anything they didn't want.

> It's quite possible for the BBC to have a workable future despite
> anyone's political views, provided it's willing to make some drastic
> changes, as everyone else has had to do. I hope it does.

Erm... All nominally true, but missed the actual point. AIUI Bob's
refusal to watch/use the BBC stems from his feeling that it is too
'woke', not because he has to pay a Licence Fee. (Which, of course,
he has to pay to watch any of the other UK stations anyway.)

Jim

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In article <59858908d1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <5985011674noise@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim Lesurf
> <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <gaa0ogdbk3qhd27ik4uuo6fbtcvhiqt4ef@4ax.com>, Scott
> > <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Could it be 5G interference? I believe you can now get filters.

> > Where? ... and with what specs?

> > Jim

> Much as I'm sure you'll not want a pointer from me.

> Well over the top as just a 5G filter I agree but if you're interested
> in DTTV reception as a thing (I think you are) then if you haven't
> already I would advise you to look at this...

> https://cpc.farnell.com/triax/360235/tmb2000-terrestrial-channel-processor/dp/AP03399?CMP=TREML007-005

> Remarkable filter. You basically set which muxes you wish to receive and
> what UHF channel you wish them to appear on so you can move things
> around to suite you.

Thanks. Does look interesting. But do I need a 'doze box to set the
filtering, etc, I might need? if so, not much use for me, alas.

Jim

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In article <rpi5ogtm7et337fsecqgvf14v1bkrkvfav@4ax.com>, Roderick Stewart
<rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Nov 2021 10:56:53 +0000 (GMT), Bob Latham
> <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> >The BBC allowed the proms to become political and even tried to make it
> >woke themselves.

> Quite. I bet most people could hum a tune from something by Beethoven or
> Mozart or any of the other well known composers, but probably couldn't
> previously even have named many of the ones introduced to us in some
> recent Proms, and perhaps couldn't remember their names now, after
> having heard them.

> Dare I suggest it's possible there's a reason why some composers become
> well known and some don't, and it has nothing to do with what colour
> they are or which sex they are?

You can suggest it. But may simply be wrong in at least some cases. To
tell, you listen to the music. However you need to hear it for yourself to
decide, not have someone else have it shelved so you may not know it even
exists.

> Personally I've always judged music by listening to it.

So do I. And I've been really enjoying some of the 'new' (sic) pieces and
sorts of music that have been in recent Proms and on R3.

It gets us away from the 'positive feedback' effect where some music that
has been heard many times becomes easier to follow and enjoy simply because
you 'know how it goes'. But I can enjoy Beethoven and items like the work
by Gipps. AND the harp + African duo prom, none of which I'd heard before.
Good pointer to a variety of new-to-me music.

It's no surprise that I'd enjoy *some* 'new-to-me' items and find others
boring. But it would be a surprise if we all always agreed about every
example.

And I don't need a Prom to enjoy a lot of Beethoven, Haydn, as I can out on
a CD for loads of their output. But for new-to-me, R3 and the Proms are
excellent. So far as I'm concerned, the Proms alone justify paying the Fee
with a smile - R3 being a longer term bonus. :-)

Jim

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In article <5985b52afecharles@candehope.me.uk>, charles
<charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> > Quite. I bet most people could hum a tune from something by Beethoven
> > or Mozart or any of the other well known composers, but probably
> > couldn't previously even have named many of the ones introduced to us
> > in some recent Proms, and perhaps couldn't remember their names now,
> > after having heard them.

> Why blame the Proms for that? I can remember being taken to a concert in
> the Usher Hall by my father when I was in my teens (1950s) where this
> happened.

Yes. One of the *purposes* of the Proms is to give people a chance to hear
some new-to-them items as well as the warhorses.

Jim

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In article <iug5pfFjghdU1@mid.individual.net>, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
> On 02/11/2021 09:49, Jim Lesurf wrote:
> > Seems a shame to miss the Proms as fall-out from your political
> > rigidity.

> Rigidity? Is that the woke term for 'principled'?

Its a term for throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Jim

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In article <iug6clFjghdU4@mid.individual.net>, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

> Well said. It's a crying shame how the BBC has been ruined. It'll go
> eventually, because it's shit in its own nest, and that will be a
> terrible loss, compared to what it was twenty or more years ago.

How has your Proms-listening varied over the years?

Jim

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On 04/11/2021 10:19, Jim Lesurf wrote:
>
>> https://cpc.farnell.com/triax/360235/tmb2000-terrestrial-channel-processor/dp/AP03399?CMP=TREML007-005
>> Remarkable filter. You basically set which muxes you wish to receive and
>> what UHF channel you wish them to appear on so you can move things
>> around to suite you.
> Thanks. Does look interesting. But do I need a 'doze box to set the
> filtering, etc, I might need? if so, not much use for me, alas.
>
You don't need to connect any client to it, (and there's no way to
anyway) but you you need a client with pdf reader installed to download
the instructions, and then you'll see it's all configured by front panel
button presses

In article <59860b9773noise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <59858908d1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham
> <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <5985011674noise@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim Lesurf
> > <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In article <gaa0ogdbk3qhd27ik4uuo6fbtcvhiqt4ef@4ax.com>, Scott
> > > <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Could it be 5G interference? I believe you can now get filters.

> > > Where? ... and with what specs?

> > > Jim

> > Much as I'm sure you'll not want a pointer from me.

> > Well over the top as just a 5G filter I agree but if you're
> > interested in DTTV reception as a thing (I think you are) then if
> > you haven't already I would advise you to look at this...

> > https://cpc.farnell.com/triax/360235/tmb2000-terrestrial-channel-processor/dp/AP03399?CMP=TREML007-005

> > Remarkable filter. You basically set which muxes you wish to
> > receive and what UHF channel you wish them to appear on so you
> > can move things around to suite you.

> Thanks. Does look interesting. But do I need a 'doze box to set the
> filtering, etc, I might need? if so, not much use for me, alas.

No Doze box required, all set up using the font panel buttons alone.

I don't recall seeing any way to connect a PC. There is an SD card
port but I've not touched that.

The only thing is, it comes preset for Europe not UK and you need to
reset the box so that you can set it to UK. The instructions don't
tell you how to do this, or they didn't. It's easy though, power off,
hold down select button, power on - done. Then configure to UK.

When COM8 (C56) closed, just as soon as stations had copied onto
COM7 (c55) I turned off COM 8 long before it actually died. It killed
it without trace right next to COM7 - amazing to me.

Bob.

In article <59860b553anoise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:

> AIUI Bob's refusal to watch/use the BBC stems from his feeling that
> it is too 'woke', not because he has to pay a Licence Fee.

Yes, pretty much the case, the constant drip, drip of woke and other
agenda tosh is more than my patience can stand. Not a violent man but
even i feel the desire to throw something hard at the Tv after
watching BBC for just a few minutes.

> (Which, of course, he has to pay to watch any of the other UK
> stations anyway.)

True but only because of the nations brain washing and propaganda
outlet.

Bob.

On 03/11/2021 10:33, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <5985011674noise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
> Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <gaa0ogdbk3qhd27ik4uuo6fbtcvhiqt4ef@4ax.com>, Scott
>> <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Could it be 5G interference? I believe you can now get filters.
>
>> Where? ... and with what specs?
>
>> Jim
>
> Much as I'm sure you'll not want a pointer from me.
>
> Well over the top as just a 5G filter I agree but if you're
> interested in DTTV reception as a thing (I think you are) then if you
> haven't already I would advise you to look at this...
>
> https://cpc.farnell.com/triax/360235/tmb2000-terrestrial-channel-processor/dp/AP03399?CMP=TREML007-005
>
> Remarkable filter. You basically set which muxes you wish to receive
> and what UHF channel you wish them to appear on so you can move
> things around to suite you.
>
> I've had one since June last year and it's marvellous, conventional
> analogue filters don't get near it. You can kill adjacent channels
> provided signal strength is normal and not blasting through.
>
>
> Bob.
>

+1.... I've got one of these too.....

It was me that pointed Bob to them..... :-)

On 05/11/2021 10:53, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <59860b9773noise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
> Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <59858908d1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham
>> <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <5985011674noise@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim Lesurf
>>> <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> In article <gaa0ogdbk3qhd27ik4uuo6fbtcvhiqt4ef@4ax.com>, Scott
>>>> <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Could it be 5G interference? I believe you can now get filters.
>
>>>> Where? ... and with what specs?
>
>>>> Jim
>
>>> Much as I'm sure you'll not want a pointer from me.
>
>>> Well over the top as just a 5G filter I agree but if you're
>>> interested in DTTV reception as a thing (I think you are) then if
>>> you haven't already I would advise you to look at this...
>
>>> https://cpc.farnell.com/triax/360235/tmb2000-terrestrial-channel-processor/dp/AP03399?CMP=TREML007-005
>
>>> Remarkable filter. You basically set which muxes you wish to
>>> receive and what UHF channel you wish them to appear on so you
>>> can move things around to suite you.
>
>> Thanks. Does look interesting. But do I need a 'doze box to set the
>> filtering, etc, I might need? if so, not much use for me, alas.
>
> No Doze box required, all set up using the font panel buttons alone.
>
> I don't recall seeing any way to connect a PC. There is an SD card
> port but I've not touched that.
>
> The only thing is, it comes preset for Europe not UK and you need to
> reset the box so that you can set it to UK. The instructions don't
> tell you how to do this, or they didn't. It's easy though, power off,
> hold down select button, power on - done. Then configure to UK.
>
> When COM8 (C56) closed, just as soon as stations had copied onto
> COM7 (c55) I turned off COM 8 long before it actually died. It killed
> it without trace right next to COM7 - amazing to me.
>
>
> Bob.
>

if you put it into UK mode, it actually reduces the B111 down to DAB 10
to 12 and its not possible to translate one mux to another.

Whereas if you leave it in EU mode, the B111 then opens up from 7 up to
13 and channel translation becomes possible.

So in theory you could put up 4 DAB aerials all pointing at 4 different
Tx's and translate a (a+b+c+d) quad ensemble to another unused B111
frequency and get all your DAB radios to do a wide band scan :-)

I currently use mine on 4 UHF log periodics pointed in 4 different
directions.

it takes up far less space, is frequency agile and has the ability to
shift channels which a set of 4 TCFL5/6's could never do....

In article <sm378o$99a$1@dont-email.me>,
SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

> if you put it into UK mode, it actually reduces the B111 down to
> DAB 10 to 12 and its not possible to translate one mux to another.

> Whereas if you leave it in EU mode, the B111 then opens up from 7
> up to 13 and channel translation becomes possible.

How strange, I've not ever attempted to move channels myself just
block unwanted ones.

Bob.

"Bob Latham" <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:5986929450bob@sick-of-spam.invalid...
>> > Well over the top as just a 5G filter I agree but if you're
>> > interested in DTTV reception as a thing (I think you are) then if
>> > you haven't already I would advise you to look at this...
>
>> > https://cpc.farnell.com/triax/360235/tmb2000-terrestrial-channel-processor/dp/AP03399?CMP=TREML007-005
>
>> > Remarkable filter. You basically set which muxes you wish to
>> > receive and what UHF channel you wish them to appear on so you
>> > can move things around to suite you.

The spec looks as if it hasn't been sanity-checked for accuracy:

"Frequency Ranges: FM 88-108MHz VHF: 40-109MHz UHF: 40-109MHz"

The "VHF" setting looks like a superset of the range for "FM", and the "UHF"
setting is the same as "VHF", instead of being something like "400-850 MHz".

NY wrote:

> The spec looks as if it hasn't been sanity-checked for accuracy:
>
> "Frequency Ranges: FM 88-108MHz VHF: 40-109MHz UHF: 40-109MHz"
>
> The "VHF" setting looks like a superset of the range for "FM", and the "UHF"
> setting is the same as "VHF", instead of being something like "400-850 MHz".

CPC copy/paste problem?

The manufacturer's PDF says

Frequency range
MHz FM: 88 - 108
MHz VHF:174 - 240
MHz UHF: 470 - 862

On 05/11/2021 12:20, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <sm378o$99a$1@dont-email.me>,
> SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> if you put it into UK mode, it actually reduces the B111 down to
>> DAB 10 to 12 and its not possible to translate one mux to another.
>
>> Whereas if you leave it in EU mode, the B111 then opens up from 7
>> up to 13 and channel translation becomes possible.
>
> How strange, I've not ever attempted to move channels myself just
> block unwanted ones.
>
> Bob.
>

not really strange as the UK only currently use chs 10B up to 12D,
whereas the EU use the full Band III from ch 7 up to ch 13.

The UHF TV channel translation is still available in either mode.

I discovered this as I wanted to be able to process individual DAB
ensembles to try and even out the signal levels prior to distribution
through my humble abode.

Can't do it within UK mode but you can in EU mode but only across 4
consecutive ensembles within the same numerical channel numnber if that
makes sense.

I can get regional ensemnbles via a directional DAB aerial from either
West Mids (such as CE Brum, Now Coventry, etc) or London (Switch, CE,
DRG) or fron Leicestershire/Notts (Now Notts, Now Leics) or from the
West (Now Reading, Oxford, Now Swindon) or from the east (Noew
peterborough & Now Cambridge) alogn with D1, BBC and SDL.

A simple Omnidirectional DAB dipole gets me HBB (Herts, Beds & Bucks),
Oxford and the Northants local ensembles along with D1, BBC and SDL but
once I move to a directional DAB aerial, the three very local ensembles
are tricky top get through that directional aerial.

So could use a simple dipole to get 10B, 10C, 10D and several
directional yagi to get teh regional and national ensembles from
different directions.....

Its a shame the PTB didn't put the national ensembles in the same
numbered channel as that would make life a lot easier when trying to
equlise signal levels between ensemble adjacent regional and national
ensembles