In article <sofu1g$4cs$1@dont-email.me>,
Alexander <none@nowhere.fr> wrote:

> On the very rare occasions when critics of the "Covid" tyranny are
> allowed to speak on the mainstream media, they are strictly limited
> in what they are allowed to say, because of Soviet-style OFCOM
> restrictions, and the financial and/or political interests of the
> host broadcaster (and possibly worse).

Have to say that does appear to be the case. Only one opinion allowed
on so many topics. Anyone who doesn't follow the agenda/narrative is
insulted, attacked personally, bullied and cancelled.

Nice people the mob.

Bob.

"Bob Latham" <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote in message news:5995ae80c9bob@sick-of-spam.invalid...
> In article <5995a6cfbdnoise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
> Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> After having endured less than 10 mins of NO's Gor Blimy Numpty
>> video I doubt the wisdom of bothering to follow anything else he
>> may say. Watching paint dry is probably more educational... so...
>
> Dripping with hate and venom because someone dared to have an opinion
> different to yours. You couldn't just say I disagree because...
>
> It was the same when you recently described the Linn LP12, a whole
> paragraph of bile and hate, you couldn't just say It's not my cup of
> tea.
>
> Have you been radicalised or something?
>

Him and JJ are a pair of hot-headed imbeciles imho - both blocked here.

On 04/12/2021 19:01, Bob Latham wrote:
>
> In article <5995a6cfbdnoise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
> Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> After having endured less than 10 mins of NO's Gor Blimy Numpty
>> video I doubt the wisdom of bothering to follow anything else he
>> may say. Watching paint dry is probably more educational... so...
>
> Dripping with hate and venom because someone dared to have an opinion
> different to yours. You couldn't just say I disagree because...

Oh FFS hyposhite, grow up and stop describing anyone who disagrees with
you in terms from a children's pantomime of evil. I suspect probably a
majority here agree with Jim's opinions about NO, he's not a bad
presenter of history programmes, but he's a time-wasting overly verbose
bore when it comes to expressing his eccentric and somewhat paranoid
personal opinions.

[Rest of the foolish idiocy snipped for brevity]

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On 04/12/2021 19:45, Alexander wrote:
>>
>> Have you been radicalised or something?
>
> Him and JJ are a pair of hot-headed imbeciles imho - both blocked here.

Which is one of the reasons why you both remain ignorant of the real
world beyond your respective paranoias - your funeral, no-one else's.

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On 04/12/2021 19:09, Bob Latham wrote:
>
> In article <sofu1g$4cs$1@dont-email.me>,
> Alexander <none@nowhere.fr> wrote:
>>
>> On the very rare occasions when critics of the "Covid" tyranny are
>> allowed to speak on the mainstream media, they are strictly limited
>> in what they are allowed to say, because of Soviet-style OFCOM
>> restrictions, and the financial and/or political interests of the
>> host broadcaster (and possibly worse).
>
> Have to say that does appear to be the case. Only one opinion allowed
> on so many topics. Anyone who doesn't follow the agenda/narrative is
> insulted, attacked personally, bullied and cancelled.
>
> Nice people the mob.

*HYPOSHITE!* On the very common occasions when anyone here criticises
either of your paranoid outpourings, they are immediately criticised
with a range of spiteful little childish slanders. The answer is
simple, stop posting dishonest crap here, then no-one would have to
waste their time pulling it to bits, and you wouldn't then have make the
inevitable childish reply. Either that or at least learn how to debate
like an adult.

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On 04/12/2021 19:01, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <5995a6cfbdnoise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
> Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> After having endured less than 10 mins of NO's Gor Blimy Numpty
>> video I doubt the wisdom of bothering to follow anything else he
>> may say. Watching paint dry is probably more educational... so...
>
> Dripping with hate and venom because someone dared to have an opinion
> different to yours. You couldn't just say I disagree because...
>
> It was the same when you recently described the Linn LP12, a whole
> paragraph of bile and hate, you couldn't just say It's not my cup of
> tea.
>
> Have you been radicalised or something?
>
>
> Bob.
>

Jim, I have noticed you getting less measured and more ranty of late.
Building exasperation, or old age setting in? I have to say that my own
levels of tolerance have been eroded of late!

Bill

In article <5995ae80c9bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <5995a6cfbdnoise@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim Lesurf
> <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:

> > After having endured less than 10 mins of NO's Gor Blimy Numpty video
> > I doubt the wisdom of bothering to follow anything else he may say.
> > Watching paint dry is probably more educational... so...

> Dripping with hate and venom because someone dared to have an opinion
> different to yours. You couldn't just say I disagree because...

.... it was crap-on-stilts.

> It was the same when you recently described the Linn LP12, a whole
> paragraph of bile and hate, you couldn't just say It's not my cup of tea.

Reference?

Jim

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In article <5995af39abbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <sofu1g$4cs$1@dont-email.me>, Alexander <none@nowhere.fr>
> wrote:

> > On the very rare occasions when critics of the "Covid" tyranny are
> > allowed to speak on the mainstream media, they are strictly limited in
> > what they are allowed to say, because of Soviet-style OFCOM
> > restrictions, and the financial and/or political interests of the host
> > broadcaster (and possibly worse).

> Have to say that does appear to be the case. Only one opinion allowed on
> so many topics. Anyone who doesn't follow the agenda/narrative is
> insulted, attacked personally, bullied and cancelled.

> Nice people the mob.

The basic error in your argument is that this issue isn't simply one of "My
*opinion* is as good as / better than yours."

The issue is what the scientific evidence and method show. Not the sour
cherries you and others post and assert. And the 'mob' you are really
arguing with are the real scientists and their evidence.

Jim

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In article <j12fgnFctvpU1@mid.individual.net>, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

> Jim, I have noticed you getting less measured and more ranty of late.
> Building exasperation, or old age setting in? I have to say that my own
> levels of tolerance have been eroded of late!

Not really. I just allow myself the occasional rant when I encounter
particularly vacuous time-wasting off-topic dribble. :-) In general I
prefer to be more measured in the hope that it may help others. However it
is a PITA to waste time on dribble like the NO video, particularly when
Bob goes on on posting his sour cherries and fantasies, refusing to deal
with reliable scientific evidence - or even read it.

FWIW the video chimes with what I've seen others report about NO elsewhere.
But until this episode I'd not myself bothered to waste any time checking
him out on things other than his old 'history' items. I assume on that he's
reliable.... or at least I *did* assume that. If I want to know something
science based I'd look to a source with a decent track record in the topic
as a starting point for the evidence, then study that evidence and how it
was obtained, etc. But I'd assume they might be clueless about the ancient
kings of Scotland.

Quite why Bob assumes a digital-tv group is the place for him to 'campaign'
endlessly on his pet issues of CC and now covid, I dunno.

Jim

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In article <sogh9u$jlt$1@dont-email.me>, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
wrote:
> On 04/12/2021 19:01, Bob Latham wrote:
> >
> > In article <5995a6cfbdnoise@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim Lesurf
> > <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> After having endured less than 10 mins of NO's Gor Blimy Numpty video
> >> I doubt the wisdom of bothering to follow anything else he may say.
> >> Watching paint dry is probably more educational... so...
> >
> > Dripping with hate and venom because someone dared to have an opinion
> > different to yours. You couldn't just say I disagree because...

> Oh FFS hyposhite, grow up and stop describing anyone who disagrees with
> you in terms from a children's pantomime of evil. I suspect probably a
> majority here agree with Jim's opinions about NO, he's not a bad
> presenter of history programmes, but he's a time-wasting overly verbose
> bore when it comes to expressing his eccentric and somewhat paranoid
> personal opinions.

I was watching NO in an old 'Coast' programme last night. That was quite
enjoyable. Although it brought to mind a story I think I read here or on a
forum claiming that NO turned up at a CalMac sailing and insisting someone
else be removed to make room for him and his 'crew' because he had an
important TV programme to make.

Jim

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In article <5996002d2cnoise@audiomisc.co.uk>,
Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <5995af39abbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham
> <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <sofu1g$4cs$1@dont-email.me>, Alexander <none@nowhere.fr>
> > wrote:

> > > On the very rare occasions when critics of the "Covid" tyranny
> > > are allowed to speak on the mainstream media, they are strictly
> > > limited in what they are allowed to say, because of
> > > Soviet-style OFCOM restrictions, and the financial and/or
> > > political interests of the host broadcaster (and possibly
> > > worse).

> > Have to say that does appear to be the case. Only one opinion
> > allowed on so many topics. Anyone who doesn't follow the
> > agenda/narrative is insulted, attacked personally, bullied and
> > cancelled.

> > Nice people the mob.

> The basic error in your argument is that this issue isn't simply
> one of "My *opinion* is as good as / better than yours."

> The issue is what the scientific evidence and method show. Not the
> sour cherries you and others post and assert. And the 'mob' you are
> really arguing with are the real scientists and their evidence.

The basic error in your argument is your persistent denial of many
fully qualified scientist who disagree with your narrative drilled
into you by the agenda driven media. I suppose you may be forgiven
for that because as pointed out, no other views are allowed to be
spoken. However, it is possible to look for yourself but religious
fanatics don't do that, they have the word of God.

Cheers,

Bob.

On Sun, 05 Dec 2021 09:58:05 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
<noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:

>I think I read here or on a
>forum claiming that NO turned up at a CalMac sailing and insisting someone
>else be removed to make room for him and his 'crew' because he had an
>important TV programme to make.

If that's true, I suddenly don't like him either.

Rod.

On 05/12/2021 09:58, Jim Lesurf wrote:
> I was watching NO in an old 'Coast' programme last night. That was quite
> enjoyable. Although it brought to mind a story I think I read here or on a
> forum claiming that NO turned up at a CalMac sailing and insisting someone
> else be removed to make room for him and his 'crew' because he had an
> important TV programme to make.

Everytime I see these clips of him on Twitter, it reminds me of a
hostage video.

On 05/12/2021 14:45, MB wrote:
> On 05/12/2021 09:58, Jim Lesurf wrote:
>> I was watching NO in an old 'Coast' programme last night. That was quite
>> enjoyable. Although it brought to mind a story I think I read here or
>> on a
>> forum claiming that NO turned up at a CalMac sailing and insisting
>> someone
>> else be removed to make room for him and his 'crew' because he had an
>> important TV programme to make.
>
> Everytime I see these clips of him on Twitter, it reminds me of a
> hostage video.

LOL! Yes! I hadn't thought of it, but now you mention it ...

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On 05/12/2021 12:50, Bob Latham wrote:
>
> The basic error in your argument is your persistent denial of many
> fully qualified scientist who disagree with your narrative drilled
> into you by the agenda driven media.

Here we go again, the same old bullshit that has already been debunked
multiple times here! Whenever these claims, usually in the hundreds or
thousands, of so-called 'fully qualified scientists' are examined
rationally, there are usually just a handful of them, of which, wrt:

Global Warming denial:
- Most are geologists employed by the fossil fuel industry;
- The expertise of the remaining scientists lies elsewhere;
- The rest aren't even scientists at all.

Covid-19 denial:
- Their predictions, such as 'herd immunity', were wrong every time;
- They ignore any science they don't like and try to lie it away.

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On 05/12/2021 09:58, Jim Lesurf wrote:
> I was watching NO in an old 'Coast' programme last night. That was quite
> enjoyable. Although it brought to mind a story I think I read here or on a
> forum claiming that NO turned up at a CalMac sailing and insisting someone
> else be removed to make room for him and his 'crew' because he had an
> important TV programme to make.

Hearsay really, nothing more. I'm surprised that a man like you Jim, so
much an adherent of evidence-based science, would repeat it.

Bill

On 05/12/2021 12:59, Roderick Stewart wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2021 09:58:05 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
> <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I think I read here or on a
>> forum claiming that NO turned up at a CalMac sailing and insisting someone
>> else be removed to make room for him and his 'crew' because he had an
>> important TV programme to make.
>
> If that's true, I suddenly don't like him either.
>
> Rod.
>
Rod, someone once told me that his mate at work knew a chap who's wife
worked with another woman who said she'd seen you dance naked on top of
a London bus.

Bill

On 05/12/2021 16:14, Java Jive wrote:
> On 05/12/2021 12:50, Bob Latham wrote:
>>
>> The basic error in your argument is your persistent denial of many
>> fully qualified scientist who disagree with your narrative drilled
>> into you by the agenda driven media.
>
> Here we go again, the same old bullshit that has already been debunked
> multiple times here! Whenever these claims, usually in the hundreds or
> thousands, of so-called 'fully qualified scientists' are examined
> rationally, there are usually just a handful of them, of which, wrt:
>
> Global Warming denial:
> - Most are geologists employed by the fossil fuel industry;
> - The expertise of the remaining scientists lies elsewhere;
> - The rest aren't even scientists at all.
>
> Covid-19 denial:
> - Their predictions, such as 'herd immunity', were wrong every time;
> - They ignore any science they don't like and try to lie it away.

I wouldn't normally bother to reply about anything he wrote, but
coincidentally I received an email from an old Japanese friend who lives
about 25km from the centre of Tokyo. I hadn't been paying any attention
to Covid levels in Japan, but this is what he said:

"...the number of COVID-19 cases are very low, less than 200 cases per
day. In Tokyo (population; about 14M), the number of COVID-19 cases are
less than 30 cases per day for about 30 days. At present, two cases of
the omicron variant COVID-19 are reported.
The third vaccination started for medical workers. We will probably have
the third vaccination around February."

So in the UK we have 45 - 50000 new cases a day, but Japan, with almost
double the population, has only 200 new cases a day! The number of those
who have had two vaccinations are about 78% in Japan, compared to about
80% in the UK. We are well ahead, though, with booster vaccinations. So
why the difference? Well, for our resident sage (not...), here is a
quote from <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-59342308>:

"I've heard from colleagues in London that on the streets these days,
almost no-one is wearing a mask. Even in confined spaces, like the
underground, it's becoming a rarity.

Not in Japan. Here, everyone wears a mask - at the park, even on the
beach. Even lone car drivers can be seen wearing them as they speed past.

And then, there's the hand sanitiser. It's everywhere: at convenience
stores, public toilets, train stations, restaurants and cafes;
everywhere you go, you are expected to sanitise your hands before
touching anyone or anything.

It can feel a little oppressive and at times illogical. But there is
little doubt that it works.

"People behaved really well, with mask-wearing and social distancing,"
Prof Shibuya says. "But that is gone now."

The success of the vaccine rollout and the lifting of the state of
emergency means people are returning to offices, and going out to pubs
and restaurants again.

The sense of fear that kept people distanced for a year and a half is
fading. And because of that, he thinks the very low infection rate Japan
has now will not last.

"We are one to two months behind Europe" he says. "Very soon, we will
see another wave developing.""

Still think masks are pointless, Bob?

--

Jeff

On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 16:27:11 +0000, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

>On 05/12/2021 12:59, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Dec 2021 09:58:05 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
>> <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I think I read here or on a
>>> forum claiming that NO turned up at a CalMac sailing and insisting someone
>>> else be removed to make room for him and his 'crew' because he had an
>>> important TV programme to make.
>>
>> If that's true, I suddenly don't like him either.
>>
>> Rod.
>>
>Rod, someone once told me that his mate at work knew a chap who's wife
>worked with another woman who said she'd seen you dance naked on top of
>a London bus.
>
>Bill

I think you might be confusing me with someone else. I haven't been to
London for ages.

Rod.

In article <soirgu$1k9$1@dont-email.me>,
Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Still think masks are pointless, Bob?

Yes.

Bob.

On 01/12/2021 01:43, Pamela wrote:
>
> On 21:04 30 Nov 2021, Java Jive said:
>>
>> See the links below, this first video is a particularly convincing
>> watch, and the other links are also worth reading:
>>
>> Visualizing Speech-Generated Oral Fluid Droplets with Laser Light
>> Scattering: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2007800
>>
>> Can Masks Capture Coronavirus Particles?
>> https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/can-masks-capture-coronavirus/
>>
>> 8 dangerous COVID-19 face mask myths you need to stop believing
>> https://www.cnet.com/health/8-dangerous-covid-19-face-mask-myths-you-
>> need-to-stop-believing/
>>
>> BBC Inside Science - Should the public wear face masks?
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hvt6 , starting 00:40
>>
>> More or Less - Coronavirus deaths, face masks and a potential baby
>> boom https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000h6cb , starting 14:05.
>
> Earlier today someone in uk.d-i-y posted these two useful links:
>
> <https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html>
>
> <https://ncceh.ca/documents/guide/masking-during-covid-19-pandemic-update-evidence>

Thanks, for the links, I've only just remembered to come back and read them.

This quote from the first is interesting in an ironic sort of way ...

"An economic analysis using U.S. data found that, given these effects,
increasing universal masking by 15% could prevent the need for lockdowns
and reduce associated losses of up to $1 trillion or about 5% of gross
domestic product.47"

.... yet the very people who are anti-lockdown are also those who are
anti-mask! It's probably also worth quoting the conclusion from this
assessment of what the science says about mask use:

"Conclusions

Experimental and epidemiological data support community masking to
reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2. The prevention benefit of masking is
derived from the combination of source control and wearer protection for
the mask wearer. The relationship between source control and wearer
protection is likely complementary and possibly synergistic14, so that
individual benefit increases with increasing community mask use. Further
research is needed to expand the evidence base for the protective effect
of cloth masks and in particular to identify the combinations of
materials that maximize both their blocking and filtering effectiveness,
as well as fit, comfort, durability, and consumer appeal. Mask use has
been found to be safe and is not associated with clinically significant
impacts on respiration or gas exchange. Adopting universal masking
policies can help avert future lockdowns, especially if combined with
other non-pharmaceutical interventions such as social distancing, hand
hygiene, and adequate ventilation."

> Of course the science about masks favours wearing them. I suspect
> conspiracy theorists and Covidiots are fearful of masks because
> wearing one demonstrates they have complied with official advice,
> which is something many Covidiots have vowed not to do. The points
> they make on their social media forums make little sense but that
> doesn't prevent them reinforcing one another's misconceptions. These
> disaffected misfits genuinely have psychological issues.

Yes, and their irresponsible bullshitting make the world a more
dangerous place for everyone, including themselves.

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On 05/12/2021 18:17, Bob Latham wrote:
>
> In article <soirgu$1k9$1@dont-email.me>,
> Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Still think masks are pointless, Bob?
>
> Yes.

Fool.

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Jeff Layman wrote:

> So in the UK we have 45 - 50000 new cases a day, but Japan, with almost double
> the population, has only 200 new cases a day!

The UK does 24x the number of tests per person as Japan, thy appear to be in a
covid lull at the moment.

On 18:49 5 Dec 2021, Java Jive said:
> On 01/12/2021 01:43, Pamela wrote:
>> On 21:04 30 Nov 2021, Java Jive said:
>>>
>>>
>>> See the links below, this first video is a particularly convincing
>>> watch, and the other links are also worth reading:
>>>
>>> Visualizing Speech-Generated Oral Fluid Droplets with Laser Light
>>> Scattering: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2007800
>>>
>>> Can Masks Capture Coronavirus Particles?
>>> https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/can-masks-capture-coronavirus/
>>>
>>> 8 dangerous COVID-19 face mask myths you need to stop believing
>>> https://www.cnet.com/health/8-dangerous-covid-19-face-mask-
>>> myths-you-need-to-stop-believing/
>>>
>>> BBC Inside Science - Should the public wear face masks?
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hvt6 , starting 00:40
>>>
>>> More or Less - Coronavirus deaths, face masks and a potential baby
>>> boom https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000h6cb , starting 14:05.
>>
>> Earlier today someone in uk.d-i-y posted these two useful links:
>>
>> <https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-
>> briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html>
>>
>> <https://ncceh.ca/documents/guide/masking-during-covid-19-
>> pandemic-update-evidence>
>
> Thanks, for the links, I've only just remembered to come back and
> read them.
>
> This quote from the first is interesting in an ironic sort of way
> ...
>
> "An economic analysis using U.S. data found that, given these
> effects, increasing universal masking by 15% could prevent the need
> for lockdowns and reduce associated losses of up to $1 trillion or
> about 5% of gross domestic product.47"
>
> ... yet the very people who are anti-lockdown are also those who are
> anti-mask! It's probably also worth quoting the conclusion from
> this assessment of what the science says about mask use:
>
> "Conclusions
>
> Experimental and epidemiological data support community masking to
> reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2. The prevention benefit of masking
> is derived from the combination of source control and wearer
> protection for the mask wearer. The relationship between source
> control and wearer protection is likely complementary and possibly
> synergistic14, so that individual benefit increases with increasing
> community mask use. Further research is needed to expand the
> evidence base for the protective effect of cloth masks and in
> particular to identify the combinations of materials that maximize
> both their blocking and filtering effectiveness, as well as fit,
> comfort, durability, and consumer appeal. Mask use has been found to
> be safe and is not associated with clinically significant impacts on
> respiration or gas exchange. Adopting universal masking policies can
> help avert future lockdowns, especially if combined with other
> non-pharmaceutical interventions such as social distancing, hand
> hygiene, and adequate ventilation."
>
>
>> Of course the science about masks favours wearing them. I suspect
>> conspiracy theorists and Covidiots are fearful of masks because
>> wearing one demonstrates they have complied with official advice,
>> which is something many Covidiots have vowed not to do. The points
>> they make on their social media forums make little sense but that
>> doesn't prevent them reinforcing one another's misconceptions.
>> These disaffected misfits genuinely have psychological issues.
>
> Yes, and their irresponsible bullshitting make the world a more
> dangerous place for everyone, including themselves.

The whole business about masks is really a non-issue. Of course masks
are useful: it's hardly worth debating.

Covidiots' challenges against mask wearing are in vain. I have to
laugh when I see master-fool senator Rand Paul try to score points
against Dr Fauci about masks.

In article <j1474sFmv9rU1@mid.individual.net>, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
> On 05/12/2021 09:58, Jim Lesurf wrote:
> > I was watching NO in an old 'Coast' programme last night. That was
> > quite enjoyable. Although it brought to mind a story I think I read
> > here or on a forum claiming that NO turned up at a CalMac sailing and
> > insisting someone else be removed to make room for him and his 'crew'
> > because he had an important TV programme to make.

> Hearsay really, nothing more. I'm surprised that a man like you Jim, so
> much an adherent of evidence-based science, would repeat it.

I mentioned it, including making clear it was "claimed" to make the point
that - as with the contents of NO's rambling - we should wonder about mere
assertions and look for a relevent way to test it.

e.g. look at the science and evidence for what NO was claiming, not just
accept such a rant if we 'want' to believe it. And as far as I can see, the
science indicates he is talking spheroids.

I also wonder/wondered if the CalMac report was true. But having seen his
rant it did come to mind as being at least possible given his behaviour in
the Glum Bugger Nonsense video. And thought it might make a point here, as
outlined above.

Slainte,

Jim

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